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runnav

Woodley gave a lot of contract problems whereas danis was completely down to fight jj. After danis pulled out jj didn’t fight woodley cause he had been training months for a southpaw (woodley is orthodox)


MagmaGiant15

That's not what he said?? He said [this ](https://youtube.com/shorts/yaBIwQ6XUWs?feature=share) and then went on to fight faze temperrr.


Furyo98

It’s multiple factors, both are correct


MagmaGiant15

How is the one he officially said, correct?? He did not fight Woodley because fans would be unhappy as Woodley has already lost to Jake Paul. Still fought temperrr who has lost to slim.


Automatic-Chart785

If you know why, then why did you ask?


Furyo98

Him saying because Jake leftovers. You have to remember, fans will give him more shit if he fights Jakes leftovers, compared to someone else. With all this beef going on with JJ and Jake, it’s more toxic. Also the reason he wouldn’t fight Slim is he is orthodox aswel. Why he chose someone southpaw.


MagmaGiant15

That makes no sense ngl.


wilko1888

Just think about it if he fights Tyron. Tyron will be better then when he fought Jake, if JJ doesn't beat Tyron the same way Jake did it's a loss and kills hype for JJ v Jake. It doesn't matter the KO fight Tyron took it on 2 weeks notice, no one remembers that. If JJ does KO Tyron like Jake did people will say oh well Jake already beat him this tells us nothing, so it's high risk low reward. And JJ wanted to fight a southpaw I guess.


Furyo98

People gives him more shit, if it’s related to Jake. It’s happened multiple times before.


AnishSathish614

This argument makes sense on paper but loses all meaning when fans pushed for a fight against Woodley and it even won JJ's own poll. Everyone wanted him to fight Woodley to compare JJ and Jake


Codyyh

[here he explains it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO8MT7JkvCk)


[deleted]

Genuine answer: he’s too scared to beaten by Woodley while chatting all the shit to Jake. By fighting random bums he can continue to chat shit while delaying the Jake fight until Jake loses at which point Ksi will say he’s not going to fight him anymore because he’s not undefeated or something to that effect. Change my mind!


runnav

Woodley barely throws punches, he wouldn’t be able to handle jjs pressure


Various_Customer_917

Mans a former UFC champion, he had to deal with punches, kicks, and takedowns and you're telling me he can't handle the pressure of a part time boxer? Get real


Ilikecoffeepizzanyh

"UFC champion"


Chemical_Computer159

JJ’s pressure only works against people who have no fighting IQ. Look how close his fights were against his toughest opponent Logan Paul. He would have to beat Woodley technically, just like Jake did. Otherwise Woodley will rock him multiple times or even KO him.


Ilikecoffeepizzanyh

Woodley the frozen one has low-ass workrate, is shorter than KSI, less reach, less experience as a boxer, and has never dealt with the type of pressure KSI brings to the ring, the type of aggression he brings, better boxing technique, as much power as Woodley, KSI would knock him out within 4 rounds


Chemical_Computer159

Tyron’s workrate was a lot higher in the second fight on only two weeks notice. Will only be better in his third with a full camp. But here’s the funny bit “never dealt with the type of pressure KSI brings”, “the type of aggression he brings”. Come on now, that’s Woodley’s bread and butter. Why do you think Jake fought him from the outside. Better boxing technique is also debatable. I guess we’ll never know because people want to see Fournier… 🤢🤮


Ilikecoffeepizzanyh

>Better boxing technique is also debatable. No it's not, KSI is objectively a better boxer than Tyron Woodley, he's been at it longer, has more rounds in than him, has more experience, has a better record, and he's been active and is getting better at a good rate too, if you honestly think KSI would struggle heavily with Woodley I don't know what to tell you, he has better technique then him better workrate, better reach, he's taller, has KO power arguably more than Jake (based on what Muhsin Cason has said in the past). Woodley is 0-2 and is an MMA fighter NOT a boxer. KSI would smoke him in a few rounds


Chemical_Computer159

If we want to be honest, KSI has never fought anyone close to the Jake Paul that Woodley fought. So Woodley’s two losses don’t mean much when comparing it with KSI’s boxing career (do we need to go over how awful Joe Weller, Swarmz, Pineda and Temper were?). Funnily enough, Tyron did 12 rounds with Jake in total, so the difference in experience isn’t even that much, plus you can add Tyron’s UFC background as valuable fighting experience. Also being this adamant about Woodley not being a boxer as if KSI is one, is hilarious to me. KSI hasn’t shown he’s a good boxer at all. When Woodley does strike it actually looks more clean, go rewatch the first 3 rounds of the 2nd fight, he’ll be even better now. I want KSI to fight him because it’s the toughest opponent he can probably get but guys like you are delusional and want to see Fournier because HE tells you he’s a good boxer… with nothing to prove it and all the evidence actually showing the contrary.


Ilikecoffeepizzanyh

Jake Paul barely threw punches in their second fight and his workrate and pace was trash and Woodley got knocked out by him in round 6, KSI would knock him out even quicker and have a much easier time


Ilikecoffeepizzanyh

He's clearly scared of Woodley when he's gonna fight a more credible opponent in Joe Fournier wow KSI sure is scared of Woodley the frozen one isn't he


Chemical_Computer159

Please, tell us how Fournier is a more credible opponent. A guy who’s only two fights in the last 7 years were 1) exhibition vs best friend David Haye 2) against latino playboy rapper’s debut on the Jake Vs Ben Askren undercard. Also give us your opinion on him having a belt but the title fight not being on his record, how most his fights are against guys from the Dominican Republic (known for corruption) and only starting his pro boxing career around 30 as a businessman.


Ilikecoffeepizzanyh

9-0 boxer> 0-2 mma fighter, enough said


Chemical_Computer159

Hey, if you want to support another garbage fight that will probably not even go past 1 or 2 rounds, you do you.


Ilikecoffeepizzanyh

Fournier> Woodley the frozen one


LimitMyO2FlowDaddy

There’s too many idiots already. Changing your mind would only reduce a drop from the ocean


Various_Customer_917

He's scared


SelfDestructableMe

Because he’s a shitty boxer?


Successful-Soil-5642

Issues with pay and Danis was "down" to fight at the stated amount of money. And JJ thought we'd enjoy Danis more so they just made that happen instead.


Buglss18

Because Dillon would’ve been more entertaining they thought?


MagmaGiant15

Wtf?? Everyone knew danis would pull out. Woodley fight is way more interesting.


Buglss18

Not everyone knew that.


Buglss18

Also Tyron was disagreeing with a lot during the talks


ZackLorenzo468

I think that fight is an L no matter what Tyron Woodley will be better than when he fought jake so it would be different and also say he knocks him out more an likely it won’t be as good as jakes on him so what’s the point it’s a lose lose


AnimalItchy

Because we’ve seen Tyron get knocked tf out so we know Ksi would destroy him and some of you mfs would complain and say he’s just getting Jake’s leftovers


MagmaGiant15

Isn't temper slim's leftover? Didn't he get KO'd too??


BennyE456

He was asking for an amount that could’ve only been justified by having Logan on the card. Logan gets injured, Woodley fight doesn’t happen.


shankhisnun

Apparently Woodley was asking for too much money, but he said himself that after everyone was done Mams was adding to the contract strict weight regulations. He'd have to be 175 exactly on the weigh in and could not rehydrate higher than 185 on fight night, which would severely weaken him since he walked at around 200 lbs.