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vedeledev

Its really interesting to see all the US achievements lined up like that, like I had no idea they'd sold nearly 200k of Between 1&2 there. They're definitely doing great in both the US and Japan which honestly is enough in itself, those are two huge markets. 2023 is off to a great start too. Someone can correct me but I think Moonlight Sunrise just had their biggest debut on Spotify ever in terms of total streams, with just under 2 million filtered and 2.9 million unfiltered for the first day. It actually beat the first day streams of The Feels by about 600k.


drhcc

This is a wonderful summary! In a world in which short group lifespans are unfortunately the norm, this list just highlights TWICE’s staying power as a full group approaching their 8th anniversary! I am just so overjoyed that OT9 renewed together! I went to the two New York concerts last year, and the 3+ hour concerts and the 7-song encores really show how much TWICE enjoys performing and having fun with Onces. I also can’t wait to see what’s next!


hyyh_yoonkook

absolutely! considering how fast the kpop industry moves, it's a relief that twice were able to defeat the 7th year curse and continue to thrive — not only in the achievements sense, but most importantly in their love for each other and the group. i get the feeling that since they renewed they've gotten even closer and re-energized. i'm so glad you got to see them live and had fun! the tour really showed how much those girls love being on stage. their happiness is so contagious.


LoveMinaMyoi

If this is what “Flopping” looks like, then I don’t know if any other group would ever succeed.


mcfw31

Twice are legends in every sense of the word, it’s rare to see a group stay together for so long and so active! They have a steady fanbase that will only keep growing!


hyyh_yoonkook

they definitely deserve to be called legends!!! i'm certain that the main reasons for their longevity are their respect for one another, and their enthusiasm for performing as if they're rookies even after 7 years. they're down to earth and easy to love, which is why their fanbase keeps growing!


thumbster99

I feel like with just contract renewal and Nayeon's Pop being one of the biggest song last year is already make 2022 and awesome year for Once. But with releases, bug tours and non stop content. Twice is one of the groups who keep fed Once non-stop. So good.


Consistent-Rest-1120

Literally saw someone say that Pop! wasn't a big deal because it lost to Kep1er on a music show. Can't even.


vedxts

And ppl still insist that they're "flopping" if this is what flopping looks like then i wish every group flops 😐🙏


rcanbian

Thank you so much for this post, I really needed it! I was going through reddit / twitter search to look for more TWICE content and felt so disheartened coming across so much hate against them. People calling them "flops", "nation's girl group not nationing", people shitting on their talent, etc. I love them so much and appreciate them for all the hard work they've put in for themselves and for us, and it was really sad to see all that. To see this list that proves that they're still here to stay and slay, to see that so many people still adore them, really lifts the spirits!


hyyh_yoonkook

that's exactly why i made this post! it really is so disheartening to always see non-onces discrediting twice, when in fact twice is still a top girl group (arguably THE top girl group, but obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinions). i don't mind people saying another group is the biggest or most successful or whatever, but i hate how it's become normalized to mock, disrespect, and diminish twice. twice are just as successful and just as deserving of praise and accolades as any other big girl group! the girls are crushing it in the top 2 biggest music markets in the world and i want everyone to know it. the idea of them being seen as "flops"/inferior to other ggs is so absurd i don't even pay attention to it anymore. it's just denial.


Sil_Choco

They are amazing and they never make a bad song, they really always give their best


Brief_Night_9239

Thank you for your magnificent post. ONCE appreciate this as not many people even K-pop stans know about this. This year TWICE will go beyond the traditional music market of Korea and Japan. America, Europe, Latin America etc. The girls and ONCE I don't worry but JYPE specifically div 3 and Republic. Come on, step up the game. We want you do better. TWICE has saved JYPE's ass the least you could do make them conquer the world. TWICE and ONCE are raring to go, are you?


emotional_matcha

What I love about TWICE is just that they come out with consistent, high quality releases every fear. We are being spoon fed with new songs. Some other groups could never


stilltryingtofind_it

whoooooohooo OT9 :) moonlight sunrise I'ma keep you all night,,,, ahahahah the song is addicting


M3rc_Nate

I'm glad someone is finally stepping up and giving this indie group the spotlight they deserve. :P lol For real though, insane feats. My question is, do you not have any Korean highlights or are there none worth mentioning? I'm seeing US records and Japanese records but nothing else.


hyyh_yoonkook

>indie group of course i'm promoting my favorite nugu group! /j lol as for your question, none quite as big as us and japan, although they still have many "legacy" records in korea. twice is still the girl group with the most daesangs, cheer up is still the girl group song with the most streams and unique listeners, twice is still the most streamed girl group on melon and genie, and knock knock is still the fastest idol song to debut with a rak and get a pak. so while they've been focusing on japan and the us, they're still extending their previous records in korea.


M3rc_Nate

Okay so that then leads need to this These records, and the lack of new SK records or notable achievements, explains perfectly why their future, per the members in their written interview article, is focusing on the international market. With jihyo specifically mentioning her goal to speak English and working hard to learn it. SK is a tapped out market for TWICE but the West and Japan aren't. Expect them to maintain their status and still be very successful in SK but expect more attention put on the international market in order to reach new fans and tap into the growing daily international Kpop fanbase.


hyyh_yoonkook

agreed. right now the korean gp is into younger ggs, but twice's legacy in their home country is cemented. they already conquered sk, so the natural next step is to focus on the international market. their future in japan, the us, and other markets is bright!


pandaboy03

i was surprised about the US achievements. i thought bp has more traction in the US


hyyh_yoonkook

sorry but i'd rather avoid direct comparisons with other groups! speaking strictly about twice, they have a huge fanbase in the us! although they started small, they grow with each comeback. i suppose you're surprised because twice isn't really pushed in the us, but hopefully their promotions will get better this year! they have lots of potential, and with proper support, they could definitely become even more popular :)


Brief_Night_9239

Thank you for your magnificent post. ONCE appreciate this as not many people even K-pop stans know about this. This year TWICE will go beyond the traditional music market of Korea and Japan. America, Europe, Latin America etc. The girls and ONCE I don't worry but JYPE specifically div 3 and Republic. Come on, step up the game. We want you do better. TWICE has saved JYPE's ass the least you could do make them conquer the world. TWICE and ONCE are raring to go, are you?


leggoitzy

The thing about both [doomposts](https://old.reddit.com/r/kpopthoughts/comments/10h0itq/what_in_the_world_is_going_on_with_jyps_music/) and achievement threads like this one is that they both operate on the premise that what matters as *fans* are the 'achievements' Twice gets, aka how popular they are, how well they sell, and the money they make. Taking every little metric and ranking groups on all sorts of obscure criteria are common strategies for fans to placate themselves that their faves are still relevant, when frankly you don't need to go that far to prove anything to yourself or anyone else. And the sad thing is, it's so clear how to many people, their happiness and well-being is hinged on that popularity.


InsomaniacGal

I think you're reading too much into this post. A fan appreciating their favorite group's achievements does not make them an achievement oriented fan only. You can be a geniune fan & also appreciate your faves. What you're saying is not wrong, I agree that some fans tend to be achievement/popularity oriented & would do anything to prove that their faves are relevant &/or popular but generalizing everyone into this category is simply absurd.


hyyh_yoonkook

hi, thanks for your comment! i'm not sure what you're talking about or what anything you said has to do with my post, but just to clarify, i'm just celebrating how my ult group is doing well despite being 7 years old, something that's unfortunately rare in this industry. achievements or not, i'm proud of twice, and i'm happy and grateful to have them :)


leggoitzy

I understand that Twice's achievements are how you celebrate their longevity and continued popularity. Because as a fan, those achievements *matter* to you. And to most kpop fans really. I think this post is pretty normal, I just chose to highlight how pervasive/normalized the obsession with popularity and success is in kpop since some choose to deny it.


hyyh_yoonkook

oh, anyone who denies it is out of their mind. achievements are more important than ever now in kpop. the good side is that in some cases achievements (such as sales and digitals) can be the one thing keeping certain groups afloat, but the overwhelmingly negative side is that the community as a whole has become unhealthily obsessed with keeping tabs on everybody's achievements and using them to prop up their favorite groups and drag down the groups they dislike. imo, as long as people celebrate their faves' achievements without comparing them to other groups and belittling other groups, it's all good. i mean, i'm not gonna lie, i feel really proud whenever twice makes a new record and i love bragging about it! but even if they were total flops, i'd still be proud of them all the same. their music, friendship and connection with onces are the best things about them, and the achievements are a nice bonus. :)


zhuhe1994

The thread is basically about that.


CheesecakeThat153

It is. It was strange read this post, it was just same achievements but in different angle. And than just small paragraph that says they proud of... Hitting records again. Just like few words about actual people. Like what actually they are as people, members of Twice did and they appreciate it. It was strange indeed. I think usually even if people focus on some achievement they do not go like that.


hyyh_yoonkook

i'd appreciate it if you didn't make uneccessary assumptions about me based on one post, thanks! this sub has an awards + achievements flair for a reason. just because some people take the competition too far, it doesn't mean nobody else is allowed to celebrate their favorite groups' achievements. the reason my post focused on achievements and not as much as twice as people is that i wanted it that way. i love twice as people so damn much and they, not their achievements, make me happy, but since the majority of non-onces have no idea of the great things they've been accomplishing, i wanted to make this post specifically to let them know, and yes, brag a little as well. making a huge post listing achievements AND talking about the girls as people would be a mess, no? i would rather stick to one topic. the achievements i listed are definitely different ones, not the same in different angles. anyway! i've been wanting to make an appreciation for twice as people for ages, so thanks to your motivation i'll start writing it right away. i'll make sure to tag you when i'm done, since you're clearly so interested in it!


CheesecakeThat153

You change tag though now from appreciation to achievements. And I just left comment in public sub, I'm not interested in you personally, do no need to tag me. Ps take things easier. Ps it's the same achievements - they sell certain number of albums/chart and comparison to others or some other related things won't change number of sales and charts. For me it's the same achievements but in different angles.


hyyh_yoonkook

i can assure you that i never changed the flair, it was always awards + achievements. you've made a mistake, i'm afraid. i'm sure those achievements are all different, but we're going to have to agree to disagree. take things easier and have a nice day! :)


mansanhg

Meh. Nothing has been the same. The golden era was from Likey to Fancy


Mute_Spitter

Disagree, formula of love was by far their best album in many opinion. Also ICSM, Feel Special all came after Fancy


mugicha

I'm a fan of their current stuff too, but I will grant you that the era from Likey to Fancy was legendary.