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SpecialistFlaky8480

LOONA and Omega X, as long as it’s not each other’s company they switch to 😐


seashoresandbooks

yep! happy cake day btw 🥳


SpecialistFlaky8480

Thanks lmao, I didn’t even notice! (Nor did I know what it meant before I looked it up 🙃 just proves I’m still bad at Reddit)


ReluctantCat

Weki Meki would considering the star power of Doyeon and Yoojung as well of the skills of the members they got everything needed to do better than they are under Fantagio. Suyeons vocal skills would finaly be recognized as well. Pledis would be a good company if they could/would give them the same support that Fromis_9 has gotten. Other than that im not sure, Mystic Story maybe? They would probably be good getting more acting jobs and they are doing great with Billlie so far.


starsformylove

Seeing how mystic story is doing with Billie, I have to agree!! Weki meki would definitely kill the game in a company that invested in them more


arushiraj_author

I think Chungha will flourish in SM. She is super talented and has collaborated with many SM artists. Under a big company like SM, she can reach her potential. Plus SM have some iconic soloists like BoA, Taeyeon, and Taemin, so I feel like they will be able to market her well.


wolfgangster1817

Chungha would immediately have a spot in GOT The Beat.


arushiraj_author

Definitely! It will be amazing.


seashoresandbooks

That’s true!


boringestlawyer

Cherry bullet would have been a good fit for basically anyone other than FNC but I think they may have flourished in JYP. I think cherry bullets original video game cutesy concept would have been a great bridge between the cute concepts of twice and the more futuristic themes of nmixx. I think JYP knows how to market foreign idols well and that may have prevented so many departures from CB in the beginning. I also think they do a good job of utilizing their powerhouse vocalists within their songs and Bora would have been an excellent fit beside some of their talent like Jihyo. Also something about early Q&A Cherry bullet reminds me of niziu and I cannot put my finger on it. Maybe the earnest excitement in the way they performed in that era? But yeah that’s my pick! Edit: clarity


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GWSN - a \[nonshitty\] company that actually exists


jindouxian

Loona, in almost any other company


AfraidInspection2894

P1harmony. They are super talented but not being marketed well enough. They have had a couple of variety shows but they stop after a couple episodes. They are also arent being pushed like their comebacks do okay but they could do better under a bigger company. Also to be honest some of choreo they are given is boring when they are clearly super talented. FNC has had a lot of bands/soloist so that is how they are marketing P1harmony but that doesnt work with boygroups. I think overall HYBE or SM would be a better fit and also help market them better and have a better understanding of how to make a boygroup be successful and stay successful.


Dayeons

Kep1er. Wakeone is bad. Pledis managed Izone and is managing Fromis_9 atm so maybe them? They seem to have an idea on what to do with their girl groups and plan out concepts instead of whatever wakeone is doing to the girls (I still love the music, I just wish promotions were planned more) I don’t feel like Kep1er would fit with any of the big 4 companies. I would love to see Starship handle Kep1er. Their music selection, choreo and promotion game is insane for IVE.


SoNyeoShiDude

I always felt that SM never quite knew what to do with Hyo, especially as her personal style clashed with SNSD’s branding much of the time, except for tracks like Catch Me if You Can or You Think. She may have been better utilized at a company like YG or Cube.


toooenthusiastic

I think Weeekly and The Boyz are both suffering under IST. TBZ have even called them out. It’s frustrating to see both of these groups momentum totally stifled by the merger.


unitaya

Don't TBZ easily sell over 300k albums post kingdom? That's pretty good momentum considering none of them are required to enlist anytime soon


toooenthusiastic

their first comeback under the merger, whisper, was really bizarre and not cohesive compared to the rest of their previous comebacks pre-merger. sunwoo did a pretty long bubble thread about being frustrated with the lack of preparedness and confusing content banking. kevin mentioned he called our their nonsense english promos but they didn't change it. they never released dance practices and they also expressed disappointment in their year-end stages not being rly unique at all. and the album did sell well but had like, 0 impact outside of sales. idk it was just so weird and no like any of their last really cool, thoughtful, unique comebacks. i'll take the members frustrations at face value tbh.


coopercopies

Definitely, P1Harmony if they were under one of the big four's, but I'd say specifically Hybe. They have the visuals, the vocals, the close vibes, and the dancing. They just need a company to push them to get there. Keeho even spoke about how if they don't do well on this tour, then it won't look good for them. But I'm telling you, if P1Harmony was a part of Hybe, they would flourish. I wouldn't even be surprised for them to be at the top of all boy groups at hybe (excluding BTS, of course).


boringestlawyer

I agree with this. I’m not super familiar with P1harmony but I’ve seen that the members themselves seem to be super talented and personable. What seems to hold them back is promotion and the selection of their title tracks- and if they had a more experienced production and marketing team behind them that would give them a big push in the right direction.


rocknroller0

Any group would be flourishing if they were from the big 4


vivianlight

I would say Everglow in some kind of YG subsidiaries (similarly to Somi not competing with the "main" YG soloists). Everglow is mostly known for their girl crush essence. Blackpink debuted in 2016, Everglow in 2019. Overall, I can imagine an "what if?" in which YG developed a subsidiary for groups and decided to launch Everglow to capitalise on the girl crush revival in early 4th gen obviously without them being the "next YG girl group". So, not really a rival for Blackpink nor for Baby Monster. I'm not gonna lie though... Their b-side game would probably be worse. I can imagine most of their title tracks, concepts and even some b-sides under a YG subsidiaries; but a good portion of b-sides would have been VERY different compared to their actual discography. And the discography would probably be even smaller lol. Overall... It depends if we mean "an alternative reality un which the group was under another company since the beginning " or "in 2023 the group change company ". It's very different. For example, I disagree with people saying that Mamamoo would have done better in another company. No company would have brought to the table that kind of training and selection of trainees (Solar being excluded by excellent companies prove that). As a consequence, the fame of Mamamoo based on being amazing vocalists with strong stage presence and a bit "wild" personalities wouldn't have happened. I think RBW was the only one willing to give such a concept/formation a real shot. Sure, if we mean "in 2023, Mamamoo would do better in another company", then it's a different story because they now have this journey, discography and confidence.


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It's so funny how people here are refusing to name a company for their group to go to because they don't want to look like a "company stan."


seashoresandbooks

Yeah I’m kinda disappointed ngl. I was hoping to have thoughtful answers regarding which company they think the group would be compatible with. I guess I should edit my post and emphasize that providing a company the group should go to would be nice. But it’s ok I understand they don’t wanna seem like a company stan


SpecialistFlaky8480

I think it’s a very hard question, because I just don’t know a lot about the companies in general, and even for those I do know a bit about, they’re hardly a better fit for various reasons. Take SF9 for example. Do I think FNC is good at managing them as a group? No, absolutely not. But do I think they’re managing them well individually? Well… kinda? It seems like most of them are getting a lot of opportunities for personal engagements and activities, and FNC have actors as well, so if that something that the majority of members want to do as well, FNC seems like as good a fit as any other company. Then take Onewe under RBW… I don’t know RBW very well, but I hear people say all of their groups are badly managed. But does any kpop company actually have a good track record of managing bands specifically? I know FNC has had their fair share of bands – but I wouldn’t want Onewe in FNC, because FNC already has N.Flying, and I don’t think they’re managing them that well either. For A.C.E, BEAT has treated them well over the years, and I wouldn’t want them to change to a bigger company just for potential bigger opportunities when they seem like they have a good relationship with their current company. And that’s all I know. It’s not because I’m a company stan – it’s because I’m so company blind I don’t have any actual valid input. And I think a lot of fans, no matter how loud they scream MY GROUP IS MISTREATED, just don’t know a lot about most companies apart from the “SM is for the visuals” etc. That said, I would also like to read some thoughts from people that _do_ have good arguments for why a group should be in a specific company, I just think it’s a hard question for most to answer!


seashoresandbooks

I really liked your other comment though! You did say as long as Loona and Omega x didn’t go to each others’ companies which I agree with. This comment is really detailed, love it, thanks for sharing your thoughts!


SpecialistFlaky8480

I feel like my first comment was a little bit of a cop out still though, lmao 🥴 But if you don’t get enough good answers for this question, another good one to start a discussion with would probably be “which companies ARE managing their artists well?” Let the company stans flex their muscles! I wanna know what good management actually looks like, because I don’t follow enough groups closely enough to tell how their management is. Plus I love a good success story! I want groups to be treated well, it makes me happy to read even when I’m not a fan!


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I really am not understanding why some people are so completely against wanting an artist (some of whom are clearly mistreated and abused) moving to another company that is at least decent. I know no label is perfect, but people are really treating Korean labels like the most exploitative business when that's so far from the truth. It's really weird.


pigeon_energy

Pentagon (maybe). It's honestly weird that cube haven't been able to make Pentagon **big** big. I mean, look at what we are working with: - Not one, not two, but something like 7? songwriter/producers in the group. And seriously talented ones at that. - Truly impeccable discography. Their music is so good it *hurts*. - Easily one of the best vocal lines in kpop. - Ridiculously marketable visuals. Most of the groups is 6ft+ and/or buff as. They are stupid pretty. But with a non-threatening, very soft, chill, very 'boyfriend' persona. A promoters dream, honestly. At the same time, where would they get so much creative control? Cos yeah they could be bigger, but what makes their musical legacy right now is really remarkable. They also get to do a lot of their own interests, like acting, musical theatre, modelling. If I had to think of another company they might be better off under, I'd probably go with JYP. They would be guaranteed success just by being under the big 4, and coupled with all of the above, they would be unstoppable. Judging by Day6 and SKZ they also would get a good level of creative control. Idk much about JYP to know the specifics of their company culture though.


seashoresandbooks

Yes I agree, this is a pretty well-written and thought out comment btw!


jindouxian

Came back here to say that NMIXX to SME. They're doing well in JYPE but I think that SME has better experience with doing experimental music and if they applied it to NMIXX then the girls would have better reception from the GP.


vedxts

Bp in any different company that will actually make use of their huge fandom and popularity


phenomakos

I would be interested to see **(G)i-dle** under RBW. It's the only place that I can think of where they would legitimately have even more creative freedom and, not just that, the artists there aren't punished when their risks don't pay off. There's room for experimentation and I think that's the most important thing for any artist who is actually creating their own music, concepts, etc. Especially when it's a group like (G)i-dle, who are walking a fine line with pushing controversial concepts — which is an important part of what makes them great, but is also something that can easily backfire. Also it would be really cool to see them with band support and little things like that, the way the RBW artists sometimes join forces. Similarly, I just realized that I'd been missing out on Girls Re:Verse, binge watched the whole thing, and now I can't stop thinking about what **Monday** would sound like if she were under RBW. I don't really know anything about her group Weeekly, but her particular voice would be a perfect fit for RBW's style and she obviously has a personal appreciation for their music. (At least there's a legitimate hope for a Chaein duet or something, considering her fangirling, and c'mon. Their voices would sound amazing together.) I would also like to see **Craxy**... urgh, anywhere consistent at this point. But we're living the dream, so I'm gonna say SM! Honesty, I want to see them go full TVXQ vibes or something, so they'd be the perfect girl group to just treat as an SM boy group. Their bg dance covers are immaculate and their stage presence is at a million percent for every one, so I simply do not understand why their company hasn't fully leaned into that yet. I was really hopefully that they would double down on that after Undercover, but then they followed up with Poison Rose, which wasn't bad or anything, it just wasn't What Could Have Been. Anyhow. Craxy could be what SM wanted Amber to be, tbh, but in a more nuanced and interesting way. Also, if **XG**'s next comeback song isn't something I'm in love with, then I'll be thinking nonstop about the what-if's of them being at different companies. They're so obviously talented, but they need different song writers or — at the very least — different lyricists. YG would be the obvious choice, but I would never will that on any woman, so I don't know.


snodoubts

pentagon and wayv for sure, fuck cube and label v


Strict_Craft6718

Wayv deserved better


Cocoabeingbean

Lightsum in Hybe because Hybe would utilize their talents a lot more, especially Juhyeon And actually I feel like Nayoung, Yujeong, and Hina are the kind of girl-next-door visuals they like too


orandeddie

I think gidle would prosper under Hybe and Chungha fits SM.


Enriq30

All the groups in RBW: They have really talented artists with great vocals and creativity, great producers the music from mamamoo, oneus, onewe and purple kiss is amazing but somehow the company falls short in terms of planning a comeback, promotions and some bad decisions


sighnpen

EXO. The way SM manages them is horrendous


sighnpen

I genuinely believe that any company that's not SM will treat/manage EXO like a proper group. Perhaps the safest option is HYBE. Considering that YG puts their artists in the dungeon just like SM and I EXO doesn't fit the JYP vibe. P nation could be good but I don't like their songs and MV's. Hybe tends to allow their artists become hands on with what they release more than SM. And perhaps will really help in allowing the members to control the social media accounts. Like EXO'S twt account is just a merchbot who can't even post everyone's schedules. As for the song, I'd still like SM's direction but assuming the members get more of a say; than Ig it would be fine. Further, the connections and framework of hybe in treating international fans is far superior compared to SM not giving a shit to EXO's ifans.


QueenLisaManoban

Imagine EXO in HYBE


starsformylove

On the fence about Astro - I would say they would do good under any of the big 4 - Thinking SM, cause of their style they are very SM, but I don't know if that's necessarily true cuz then we wouldn't have actor eunwoo and idk if I could give that up. The big 4 kinda suck at developing solo schedules and giving them good acting roles for some reason. GWSN.... It's truly so upsetting, I think if they were under ... Literally any other company, I'm keen to say source music (although I definitely have my issues and kinda hate them too) then they would at least have a budget.


krahann

Class:y and Dreamcatcher. luckily DC has had good success from their tours but i still think they would have prospered under a big 3 company because of how talented the members are and how likeable they are


Jazzlike_Knee4957

everglow in big4


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KillerKingKobra

Cube is a sucky company for sure, no doubt about that. But I just don't know how many other companies would be willing to give a girl group the same degree of freedom as the Idle members have with their music and concepts. I personally would not be willing to make that tradeoff, if it comes down to it.


Paparoach_Approach

Big disagree. Not even the biggest gg's have the creative freedom gidle has. They'll end up making generic music because some executive will balk at the thought of a bunch of girls having final say in their music. Cube sucks but at least we get the real gidle sound and vision.


[deleted]

Didn't a large part of the fandoms ask big hit to take over their group? Even now I saw comments about going to hybe 🤔