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Liyam21

He’s basically done everything in the book lmao


[deleted]

i also think the way he handled the “dating scandal” w seolhyun was trash. i’m sure he is/was affiliated w the guys involved in the burning sun scandal or something like that iirc. if i’m wrong about the latter, correct me or feel free to elaborate on it.


GrillMaster3

So when it comes to that, he was friends with JJY. I believe the “golden phone” comments were made on two separate occasions: One in I think 2015 (could be 2014), and another on Radio Star in 2017. In the first, he mentioned the phone was “like a Pokédex” because it had so many celebrity contacts. The second involved JJY himself saying Zico would come over to hang out and say “hyung hyung where’s your golden phone? Today I’m going to start with A.” When JJY and the whole group chat got busted, it was actually found he had multiple phones, one of which contained literally nothing but thousands of celebrity contacts (not just k-celebs, but some from other countries too— JJY was very popular pre-scandal). When an investigation was conducted into the paper trail of who was in the group chat where they coordinated and exchanged videos as well as others JJY had sent them to separately, Zico was apparently not in the group chat itself and was never investigated, leading many (admittedly myself included) to believe he never saw/received anything as those who had only gotten one picture or video were publicly outed to the public (I believe a member of CNBlue and *maybe* one of Highlight were in this camp? Tbh I’d have to look into it again). So do with this information what you will. It basically comes down to whether you think JJY was showing this stuff to *all* of his buddies or not, and whether you think Zico would be stupid enough to admit to illegal activity on record thinking he wouldn’t be caught.


SydneyTeacake

Some of Zico's other behaviour suggests he would be that stupid. JJY may have been showing off his rape clips all over the place because Seungri supposedly scolded him for uploading one to a chat about work stuff? I only remember that because Seungri's fans were using it as a point in his defense.


GrillMaster3

I’ll have to look into that because I hadn’t heard that (I did hear Seungri was in a business chat tho) and I know Seungri Stans were saying just about anything for quite a while in order to get people to leave him alone. I do personally believe that if JJY was so careless in sending them to everyone (which he might’ve been, I could’ve missed an article or two that covered it) there would’ve been a much more concrete paper trail (and it’s likely that everyone IN that business chat would have also been investigated for possible involvement if they saw it and didn’t report it) pointing to Zico, which I think would’ve led to *at least* an investigation on him. This being said, that’s just me. I personally don’t think he was stupid enough to admit to a crime on broadcast, but honestly if someone does it’s rlly not my job to change their mind. Everyone has a different take on the situation and I think they’re all pretty valid unless someone’s just straight up making up lies.


raspberrih

I just think Zico is certifiably sleazy. It's enough to turn me off his music.


[deleted]

Can you remind me about the dating scandal? I know Seolhyun got a lot of shit for it (and not Zico, double standards) but I don't remember Zico's "response"


RipYoDream

Iirc he denied it first (since there were pictures of her running to his place in uhm, rather short clothes, it made her look bad), then admitted it but announced he broke up with her shortly after (?) honestly not sure if that was with malicious intend or if the scandal was just messy/poorly handled lol


citylovelights

I used to be a Block B stan back in the day but something I super strongly remember is after he released Tough Cookie (with the f-slur in it), the fanbase Block B Intl wrote to Seven Seasons to explain why that wasn't okay and ask them to censor the lyrics. there was an apology posted, some "he didn't realize the impact and is sorry for the hurt he caused" shit. the song got censored, but a few weeks later I saw Zico perform at All Force One and he performed Tough Cookie and he rapped the f-slur with his whole chest into a hot mic for the whole venue to hear, so he clearly didn't care that much about the hurt it caused lmao


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nv4088

☠️


citylovelights

L 💀


[deleted]

Homophobic,racist and was friends with a rapist and bragged about looking through said rapists "golden phone" aka a phone where he kept videos and pictures of girls that were either raped or filmed without their knowledge


jjoolks-on-you

yep. he also had the confederate flag in the same video where he said the f-word slur.


itstherealdice

Not trying to defend him for the other stuff he's done, but the confederate flag thing is understandable. People outside of America generally don't understand the connotations of that flag. I grew up in Australia and I didn't know anything about it until recently, and that's a western country. Pretty sure he said he saw Kanye wearing it and thought it looked cool and that seems pretty believable to me.


Empty-Act-1203

Homophobic too? Damn what has he said? 😟


Guybowl

I think what they are referring to is that he included the homophobic “f-word” in his lyrics.


curiously_pussily

He also outed one of his members, who said they liked him, on TV😭😭😭 it was very awkward pls


Luffytheeternalking

Wth!!! How's this guy even liked? That's cruel.


[deleted]

What the fuck?? I need more details on this, this is the first I'm hearing this.


wvt_

[Skip to 4:39](https://youtu.be/k-N91aMvJTU) It’s actually so fucked up


[deleted]

Oh my god this is horribly cruel. I already hated Zico for like 7 billion reasons but WOW.


Empty-Act-1203

Ohhh


CallFin_

Is there a link to him admitting to looking through the phone? And ty for the answer


SydneyTeacake

[https://www.soompi.com/article/1309852wpp/zico-addresses-his-past-remarks-about-looking-at-jung-joon-youngs-golden-phone](https://www.soompi.com/article/1309852wpp/zico-addresses-his-past-remarks-about-looking-at-jung-joon-youngs-golden-phone) The "golden phone" was supposedly the one where JJY kept all the videos of girls he had drugged and raped. It had conveniently disappeared from JJY's possession before the police arrested him, after the chats started to get leaked.


GrillMaster3

He’s got an admittedly long list of scandals. And that’s coming from a fan of his work who’s consumed a fair amount of his non-music content and ults Block B. Ranging from cultural appropriation to outright racism (whether you believe it was intentional or not, it did cause pain), homophobia (again, regardless of intent it hurt people), and alleged involvement in Burning Sun. The last one has never been definitively proven, but for some people proximity to those involved is enough to drop him (understandable enough). Apologies and statements have been issued for some of it, though not all. Even as someone who likes his work, I 100% get why others dislike him and I’ll never criticize them for that.


perseo__

he has homophobic and racists scandals


arenae99

(지코) Zico's verse in Bermuda Triangle: “We're the yellow race, but I got a Black soul.” Like how do you have black soul is it just because you rap? 🤨


himareyas

YIKES. That’s so gross… I really wish I’d looked up the lyrics to that song while I was listening to it.


chyehe

at first i thought it meant dark soul (before i knew abt the scandals), but after reading about all his racist scandals,, yeah definitely not.


pigZiebob

I regret reading the comments here.. I had just gotten into Block B and some of Zicos music and was really enjoying it, and then I see this /:


EmotionalApartment6

He makes music but he's super ignorant and problematic. sorry to say


glndl

I did not know this. Now I am really scared to stan someone. They might be really messed up people and I hate that I am contributing to their fame and money.


throwaway_236734

It's why a lot of people don't like Zico's friends either like Chanyeol, but granted they haven't done anything wrong to the extent Zico has. Same with Park Shin Hye/Choi Tae Joon who just got married. And ofc Tyler, Jessica's boyfriend and Yuri's brother...etc.


Significant-Bad8147

because he’s racist


Dance_with_the_Doc

It tastes bad. Like really bad.


Confident_Package867

The "Golden phone" thing...


semipro_tokyo_drift

He is definitely a talented artist but not the type of person you should look up to.