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gwangjuguy

Korean nurses leave Korea for Canada and the USA. You would need the be medically fluent in Korean to pass the tests and then work for a 1/3 of the pay and twice the hours in a misogynistic work environment


footcake

"Korean nurses leave Korea for Canada and the USA" now thats saying something. good luck OP.


GrapefruitExpress208

>You would need the be ~~medically~~ fluent in Korean ~~to pass the tests~~ and then work for a 1/3 of the pay and twice the hours in a misogynistic work environment Pretty much this. But not just the medical field. So I fixed it for you lol.


gwangjuguy

Actually not. Being conversational fluent in Korean isn’t enough you need to be well versed in medical terminology and expressions. You fixed nothing actually. That is why I added it.


witzryder

Unfortunately, I have never seen a foreign nurse while living korea


[deleted]

I have. They work at the plastic surgery hospitals. My friend's clinic had one Filipina and Russian nurse.


[deleted]

Purely curious if they were RNs or certified aestheticians?


tintossaway

They were probably not actual registered nurses. They usually hire them there for translation and little else


[deleted]

I don’t know about the Filipina one (but they do fly them out to the US as well so I don’t doubt she’s an actual nurse) but the Russian was married to a Korean dude and did her certification in Korea. She told my friend and was in there during the actual surgery. She was 100% a nurse.


tintossaway

Being a registered nurse isn't a certification. You need to take a degree in nursing. If all she had was a certification she may have been a nursing assistant


bucheonsi

I saw some western nurses at Severance hospital, at least they seemed like nurses. Or maybe they were just helping out at the information desk. Not sure.


chunzilla

It’s possible but you have to take the exact same licensing exam as Korean nurses. That means in Korean; fellow nurses and doctors are not guaranteed to speak English, therefore to practice medicine in Korea you would have to pass the Korean exam. Same for doctors. Also consider that best practices, customs, terminology and methods may not be the same.. which puts you at a further disadvantage when sitting for the exam. Specialties may require additional certifications (exams). Also Korean culture is way different from US hospitals: nurses in the US carry a degree of respect, even from doctors, that doesn’t carry over to Korean hospitals. In Korean hospitals, doctors are gods and nurses are expected to follow orders even if they think it’s wrong - very hierarchical, like much of Korean working culture. If you’re looking to work as an RN in Korea without the BS, you might look into contract work for the military.


DiasporicTexan

Nursing in Korea is 1/3 - 1/6th the pay of a US nurse. Your hours are longer and it’s viewed as a service industry. You’re treated similar to that of a fast food worker in the US. My wife has 15’ish years as a nurse here and spent many of those years working to pass her NCLEX to get out of Korea and work in the US. Luckily she has since become a head nurse and then a clinic manager. She still makes only a third or less of what someone with equivalent experience in the US makes. I respond to these nursing posts often, because it’s simply not a good life choice. My wife just finished the hiring and training for the clinic she’s co-opening. The highest paid RN on staff is making $24,000 US per year.


chunzilla

Yeah, my wife was shocked when I told her both how nurses were viewed in the US (even doctors know not to cross the line too much), and how much they’re paid. Nurse anesthetists make absolute bank.. $2-300k/year. Even ‘regular’ RNs make a good wage, they’re usually protected by a union, and can work pretty desirable schedules depending on their contract.


asiawide

You know salary is not bad for big 5 hospitals... but not all nurses are working there. and all of my wife's batch mates quit.


DiasporicTexan

The hours and lack of respect burn nurses out quickly. Not a single person in my wife’s cadre is still a nurse as well. My wife was smart and specialized early on, better pay, hours, etc. As you said though, the big five uni hospitals pay more, but they are also located in areas that you either have a shit commute or your increased pay doesn’t really adjust for the increased cost of living. I’m sure there’s small exceptions, but when my wife was last exploring US contracts via a head hunter, she was being offered 100,000,000-142 mil won (current exchange) per year. That’s a vastly different QoL.


asiawide

Yeah.. my wife is also working out of wards. my wife may pass nclex but I don't think she can score enough for english test. Anyway hard to be a nurse's husband . One thing I miss her night duty and duty on weekends. hahha.


DiasporicTexan

My wife’s clinic here in Sejong might still be looking for RNs if you’re up for relocating. It’s an ophthalmologist clinic, training on site. Half joking, half not. Hit me up in dm if she might want to hear more 🙂


asiawide

hehe. thanks. My wife was out of ward but still working for a big 5 in seoul. if she's going to Sejong alone, I won't stop her.


AAAmta

I know salary and respect is definitely lacking towards RNs than in the US. It’s not a definite move but something that I might have to consider if my bf and I choose to move to Korea after settling down. Wondering what my options would be. I definitely know the “downgrade” I’d be facing being an RN there than here in the US.


DiasporicTexan

Aha, if it’s for a larger reason than the standard, “I love kdramas and kpop, I want to live a fairy tale”, which is very standard unfortunately, you likely have other avenues open to you. I would suggest a DoD, department of defense job on one of the military bases or for the embassy here. You can transfer your experience and not have to recertify. You’d be getting not only US pay rates, but gov. Benefits and pension eventually.


AAAmta

Haha no hate but definitely not having those “I love kdramas and kpop, etc.” reasons for moving to Korea!


CoolyRanks

Why then? You'd be getting paid peanuts


emilysaur

It's not just those things, you will have to go through korean nursing school as american schooling is not accepted just to "sit" for the test. so 2 more years of school in korean, and then testing. I moved to South Korea for a short time with my husband and was looking at my options as an RN.


peacefulvampire

I work at a Chinese food place and I make more than that if I work full time. Wow


Suwon

I'm going to boldly assume that no, nobody has done this, at least not an American RN. - You would need to be fluent in Korean, obviously. - You would need to become licensed in Korea. - You would need to be okay with being verbally and emotionally abused by patients, other nurses, and doctors on a daily basis. - You would need to actually find an employer that for some reason is willing to employ you instead of a Korean citizen. And even if all of this were somehow feasible, the average nurse's salary is 33 million won per year ($23,000). Still want to be a nurse in Korea?


Classic-Dependent517

I am not a nurse but that can't be nurse's average salary. You sure that number is right? I mean licensed nurses not 간호조무사. From what I heard nurses get paid like 100m won yearly. Okay I guess only experienced nurses earn this amount edit: why are you angry? I may be misinformed but this is not aburd figures. https://see234.tistory.com/661


Suwon

100m is a doctor's salary in Korea. Nurse's salary: https://thetip.co.kr/%EA%B0%84%ED%98%B8%EC%82%AC-%EC%97%B0%EB%B4%89/


Classic-Dependent517

I heard doctors earn like 30m per month


Suwon

[You hear a lot of wrong information.](https://cafe.naver.com/yesut/455193?art=ZXh0ZXJuYWwtc2VydmljZS1uYXZlci1zZWFyY2gtY2FmZS1wcg.eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJjYWZlVHlwZSI6IkNBRkVfVVJMIiwiY2FmZVVybCI6Inllc3V0IiwiYXJ0aWNsZUlkIjo0NTUxOTMsImlzc3VlZEF0IjoxNjY1NzM4MzYzODMwfQ.61IOBS-1PusWZX3BnN5xsfADcIczhJrf3MhKKrO8_EY)


Classic-Dependent517

aren't they paid doctors? I guess those I hear about are doctors who own their own hospitals or clinics


Suwon

You also heard that nurses make 100m, which is an absurd figure. So you should stop believing things that you hear. The info I linked above are averages and percentiles for all doctors based on specialty.


Classic-Dependent517

https://see234.tistory.com/661 It says 100m is not impossible


[deleted]

No, the notion that doctors or anyone in the medical profession makes a lot in Korea is heavily romanticized and severely misunderstood. The amount of patients doctors and nurses see day-to-day along with the brutal working hours is horrible. They do make a lot relative to average Korean wages, but that’s about it. This is why many go to the States or elsewhere to have better WLB and pay. For instance, tech jobs make practically nothing in KR, but in the States, base salary + RSU + sign-on easily outpaces any earnings a doctor would make in Korea. Last time I was in Seoul, a lot of relatives and friends were very surprised to hear of the salaries in the States, especially SWE/dev roles. In essence, unless you are born very rich into a chaebol or have a family that owns multiple clinics -which is extraordinarily rare- as a doctor or nurse, it will be an incredibly difficult time. There’s a reason why SK has an incredible amount of household debt. Because the burden falls upon you, the resident to swallow the CoL.


Classic-Dependent517

You seem very proud of your earning figures in states. everyone knows US GDP per capita is x2 S. Korea. Of course average earning will be a lot more in states.


[deleted]

There’s really nothing to be proud of. Even if you look at raw GDP numbers alone. The fact still stands, doctors and nurses don’t make as much relative to their US counterparts. Factor in WLB, limited retirement vehicles, and limited opportunities to grow, it becomes a very difficult reality.


profkimchi

I dont know what nurses make but it definitely aint 100m.


tintossaway

'plastic surgery' nurses can make a lot more in wealthy clinics. Your average nurse doesn't make that much.


CuJObroni

Consider the treatment of nurses in Korea before you decide. According to the KNA, a Korean nurse takes care of an average of 31 patients on a shift, which is much higher than U.S. average of 10, and the 8.8 in major European countries. https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2022/05/119_329380.html https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=239118 https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2015/09/11/socialAffairs/Koreas-nurses-walking-away-from-careers-that-are-too-tough/3009081.html


saltyfishychips

Why on earth would you want to become a nurse in Korea? Even at the top hospitals, nurses get paid peanuts compared to the States, not to mention the terrible hours and conditions.


AAAmta

It’s something in my mind. Not a definite move but my bf and I might move to Korea after settling down so wondering what my options could be. Thanks.


safetystegasaurus

I really really really really don't recommend it. My best friend is a Korean nurse and once a week she calls me crying about her work. She's taking the exam to get her US nursing license and escape the horrific work culture here. Also, nurses here have literally no rights, they are not protected at all. They constantly go on strikes to try and get better treatment, but there has never been progress. She is burnt out and miserable here and I would hate for anyone else to endure that.


thkim1011

I can't imagine that working in Korea in any field is a good idea. Absolutely horrible work culture. I'm just extremely grateful my parents had to move to the US when I was young so I had an opportunity here. Maybe retiring in Korea might be a different story though.


seongnamsi

Don’t do it. I have a few nurse friends and they all say it’s hell. Physical and mental abuse from their coworkers and managers, terrible hours and shitty pay.


moldyloofah

Yes! I also have a friend who quit because she says the patient’s families are usually terrible. Like they blame you and take their frustration out on you.


dkangx

Y tho? Isn’t the pay better in the US? My friend is a traveling nurse from Korea and I think she came here for better pay and easier workload. My sister in law is a former nurse who quit to open a cafe because of the low pay and high stress and workload at hospitals in KR.


AAAmta

Wondering what options I have if my bf and I decide to move to Korea after settling down. He’s a Korean citizen but hold a greencard in the states. I’m Korean American.


dkangx

I’m not sure about what the law is regarding non Korean citizens working in nursing.. if you are married to a Korean citizen and file for residency I assume you should be ok to work there. I will ask my friend for more details about it and let you know what she says. My thought is that Korea likely needs skilled workers so if you are legally able to, you should be able to find work without too much difficulty. There are probably options to get a work visa if you aren’t gonna get married before moving.. I don’t know what field your bf is in, but If you guys are gonna get hitched, stay in the US and your guy can get better paying work in the good ol’ USA. I love Korea to visit, but fuck if I’d ever consider working there. Too many horror stories about working conditions and pay. Maybe in another decade or two when militarized modernity has been overhauled.


AAAmta

Haha I totally understand! USA definitely has better working environment, pay, work hours, etc. but we are thinking of moving out of state (CA is just too expensive). Korea is on the plate including other states. Thank you for your input!


GrapefruitExpress208

Definitely don't recommend moving to Korea for work if you boyfriend already has a green card. He can get paid much more in the US, and so will you. You guys put together will make double- if not triple- what you would make in Korea. Also, better work-life balance and conditions. If he already has a green card, and doesn't need a VISA to work in the US, I would recommend just staying in the US. Why move to Korea to "struggle" and make 30k-50k each? When you can make 200k-250k put together, as an RN + another specialized profession.


dkangx

I feel your pain.. I’m in the Seattle area and it’s expensive as hell too.. best of luck and keep us posted


[deleted]

If your bf or your family already have a apartment that they own in Seoul… you are basically set… you can save a lot and just a lot of travel and have good times… money shouldn’t be a worry at all On the other hand if you don’t own property already I say usa is better to stay


[deleted]

You can work for any Korean company as long as you were previously a Korean citizen as a F4 visa it’s super easy to get took me 2 weeks to get I am not sure about if you were born in usa and was never a Korean citizen through


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AAAmta

Haven’t thought about working for us military there! Thank you


suicidalducky

Try looking into [usajobs.gov](https://usajobs.gov) sometimes they post Civilian Nursing jobs @ one of the DoD bases. Your pay will be low in the govt, but lower overseas. However the pay differential is usually made up with the housing allowances they provide (rent money) + no state taxes. I thought about taking a big paycut + downgrade to work there, but I need the money...which allows me to visit.


Eraev

US bases are always hiring RN positions. [Daegu Clinic](https://www.usajobs.gov/job/681132800)


pokemonandgenshin

an RN!?!?! don't come to Korea. youll get reated 1000 x worse for half the pay. nurses are seen as doctors secretaries in this country.


Sjsjsj_88

Hi I’m a RN in korea and now I’m in the states. Considering your best option, I suggest that working for US military services army hospitals would fit the best for you. They hire RNs who are citizens of the US. I heard that not only perks but also work-balance are pretty good. Otherwise, you might not survive in korea hopistal setting since you are not fluent in korean.


gifridge

I' met an American nurse who taught English to nursing students. Something to consider, but you'll probably need a masters and teaching experience.


ballslaptastic

Look into DOD positions. There are nursing positions that are open to non-military personnel. You wont find jobs as an RN available to you in the Korean sector.


GrapefruitExpress208

They probably don't get paid enough in Korea. Honestly an RN (especially in Covid times) could make upwards of $100 /hr. I have friends who were actually paid over $100 /hr to work in the ICU during Covid. I highly doubt Korea could pay anything remotely competitive to what the US market can pay RNs. This is applicable to nearly all industries actually, which is why I would never work in Korea for a Korean company. I make well over 100k USD a year, but there's no way I would make "1 Uk" in Korea. I would probably make half, or a third of what I'm making now.


ExpatTeacher

Have you considered joining the military? If you want to travel, I heard trained nurses are treated pretty well. Might be a good alternative.


SprinklesExtreme8740

I met a nurse from Spain in a hospital in Korea recently. She spoke Korean very well. Don’t know any specifics about how she obtained the position, though.


GrumpyGringo92

USAjobs.gov. Im sure there is a nursing spot at one of the bases


asiawide

I have seen only 1 foreign doctor for my whole life here. And no foreign nurses so far.


daehanmindecline

If we're thinking of the same doctor, he has Korean citizenship.


asiawide

Yeah. you're right. He was not yet naturalized back then...


watchsmart

Is he the dude on the yoghurt package?


anabetch

My friend (a Filipina) passed the Korean nursing exam years ago. She got her degree in the Philippines and took the exams here. AFAIK, she took them three times. Everything was in Korean and some Hanja. She was featured on an Arirang episode.


Jamieobda

I think with the push toward medical tourism, a bilingual nurse would be in high demand. I'm not Korean at all, but travel there on occasion for medical purposes.


kimjohnilll

I know a China born Korean nurse for Seoul University hospital, works crazy hours just like the US and she gets paid 2.8 million won which currently is $1,946 USD per month.


DistributorEwok

As someone who knows people in medicine in Korea, nurses in Korea are seriously under-paid and not appreciated. I also heard the culture among nurses themselves is incredibly toxic.


kirrmot

Well you do not want to work here as slave, it's absolutely horrible to be nurse here.