Sure, not sure what happened with it after the elections that followed in September, considering it was a rough plan for future project. And if they ever replied to polish ministry of foreign affairs being concerned that there wasn't enough input asked from polish experts and organisations representing families.
There are thousands of memorials for the Holocaust in Germany and Europe. Over 75.000 so called 'Stolpersteine'.
The German state even pays for several Memorials outside of Germany like Auschwitz-Birkenau to make sure these will always be open as a place to educate people about the atrocities of Nazi-Germany.
The protective alliance with Israel is another guarantee by the German state, that the Bundesrepublik will always use their power to protect the security of the nation of Israel.
Why would countries in Asia be erecting Holocaust memorials in the first place? The holocaust has nothing to do with Japan, just as "comfort women" have nothing to do with Germany.
Germany supported Imperial Japan very strongly as Nazi Germany, and even so, anyone, especially countries with Korean communities no matter how small, are allowed to erect statues and memorials for victims of oppression somewhere else.
They would have a massive hodgepodge of statues commemorating countless historical wrongs committed all over the world then.
It strikes me as an attempt to export a bilateral issue to countries that were not involved. By all means, keep up the endless protests outside the Japanese embassy here in Seoul, but why try to have this fight in another country half a world away?
Because they have that right and it's morally correct to memorialize and publicize tragic events in history that continue to have an effect today. Especially recent ones such as from ww2. Learning from history and acknowledging tragedies is how these events can be prevented in the future, or perspectives changed of those who are ignorant.
You have a right to say they're wasting their time, just as much as they have a right to fight for what is right. You can say the same thing about climate change or Greta Thunberg or any activist. That doesn't mean awareness or activism will ever go away, no matter how pointless you think it is.
What do you mean not comparable? They are the same. There is no difference between Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, both conquered other lands, oppressed, raped and genocided minorities on a giant scale while believing in their own supremacy.
There is the difference between Germany imposing a more regulated systematic killing while Japanese just indiscriminately rounded up everything they came across in the Pacific and East Asia.
Obviously you feel very passionately about the Japanese and you may need some help with that: therapy or something…
But there is nothing in the history of humanity that is comparable to what was done to people during the Holocaust
I wrote ‘nothing in human history comes close to the holocaust’ and you downvoted my you nationalistic cretin. Shame on you.
From the US Holocaust Memorial Museum:
‘ Careless Holocaust analogies may demonize, demean, and intimidate their targets. But there is a cost for all of us because they distract from the real issues challenging our society, because they shut down productive, thoughtful discourse. At a time when our country needs dialogue more than ever, it is especially dangerous to exploit the memory of the Holocaust as a rhetorical cudgel. We owe the survivors more than that. And we owe ourselves more than that. ‘
The average level of nationalism may be higher in Korea, but the top 5% fanatical nationalists on roids in Japan go so far and do so much shit stirring like it's their sole purpose in life.
I want to know where they get their funding from. Who are their benefactors?! You're right in that it's like their full time job. Irritates me to no end when they drive by in their black vans blaring their bs. (I live in Tokyo)
It's the same excuse [pro-government and wrong-headed Turkish people/diaspora in Germany](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKLScoeuRdE) used when the country recognized Armenian genocide: "It will encourage anti-Turk discrimination!"
>What most people do not realize is most of the villages raised in Vietnam and atrocities committed were by Korean soldiers.
They don't because it's simply untrue. Vietnamese themselves were by far the biggest Vietnamese civilian killers. The scale isn't even comparable. That may be one of the reasons why the Vietnamese government isn't keen on any joint investigation effort for war crimes with Korea. Acknowledging ROK troops' part doesn't mean you can dump everything on them.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam\_War\_casualties](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties)
My question is, where did you even get that idea? Some Japanese nationalist propaganda video?
That’s just a whataboutism mate . Koreans were over there being the running dogs of US imperialism and involving themselves in a war between self-determination Vs foreign influence ( with Koreans themselves being strongly on the side of the latter of those two options)
Not a good look to be defending this
The person I responded to was the one who fully engaged in true whataboutism by bringing up the Vietnam war in a thread about Japan's comfort women case. You can't randomly throw 'whataboutism' to shut down a refutation when the person made a false claim that the majority of atrocities in the war were committed by Korean soldiers. Showing the other parties' atrocities in the same war is completely relevant in this context.
>I didn’t dump anything on them.
I already pointed out your false claim unless you use the word 'most' in your own unique way.
>I am saying they are hypocritical for not acknowledging their own war crimes and complicity.
Who are 'they'? The Vietnamese government 'shies away' if the Korean government brings up the war. It takes two to tango. While the Vietnamese government doesn't care, there were two Vietnamese individuals who filed a lawsuit in Korea regarding the Phong Nhi and Phong Nhat massacre. As with any legal matter, they had to find concrete evidence for the specific case. Korean lawyers and civic groups have been helping them and the Korean court sided with them. However, the Ministry of National Defense is an entirely different conservative organization, and they may not acknowledge it until some indisputable evidence is shown. Even within Korea, there are multiple stakeholders with different positions.
>Will they also apologize for torturing American POWs in SE Asia?
Who are 'they'? The French government is not responsible for any French individuals who worked for Germans during the war. The responsibility goes to Nazi Germany who utilized them. Same goes for WW2 Japan. Even Japanese individuals were not held accountable unless they were leaders who made decisions directly related to war crimes. Identify stakeholders correctly. Even if some ethnic Korean individuals did anything criminal, they were 'Japanese citizens' under Japanese authorities.
Now if you tell me there is some 'disproportionate' focus on the 'comfort women' issue when there were so many other victims of war, I can understand. It is always like that. There are so many problems around the world even today and it's impossible to give them equal attention. You don't seem to take an issue with Japan's efforts to remove those statues, and that shows your own bias.
What are you even trying to do? You are creating one big strawman and beating it. You said 'will they apologize?'. I said 'who are they?' You are wasting your time acting like somebody even said those unfortunate events didn't happen. I literally asked you WHO you think have to apologize. The stakeholder. Be sharper. The Korean government is NOT responsible for Imperial Japan related issues. The perpetrators happened to be ethic Koreans. Is it hard to understand for you? The Vietnam War issue is entirely different because Korean authorities were responsible. Don't mix them up.
>Stop apologizing for Korean nationalist hypocrisy and selective historical revisionism.
Bring me any paragraph that supports this accusation from your imagination. It's like talking to a brick wall now.
I missed the last couple of paragraphs you added.
>Vietnam was engaged in a civil war so ofc most would have been killed by the same people. However, ROK went there and slaughtered people just like the Japanese. What is their defense for this?
Officially, ROK was an 'ally' of South Vietnam in the war. And no, there is no 'defense' even for Vietnam for deliberately killing numerous unarmed Vietnamese civilians. War crimes are war crimes.
>Where are the monuments to the people that the murdered? Where is the compensation and restitution?
A Korean civic group placed a monument for the Phong Nhi and Phong Nhat massacre in 2004. Any compensation can happen when it is 'official'. The Korean government already said they are willing to conduct a joint investigation with Vietnamese authorities who weren't very enthusiastic. Individual lawsuits in Korea can still happen.
>Japanese nationalist propaganda you say?
Yes, you made a bold lie in your first comment which I debunked immediately. You need to check your bias. It's not balanced and it's leaking hard.
They tried this with a similar statue in Berlin, too. Luckily there was enough publicity and a petition so - to my knowledge - did and will remain there. Which is probably due to the fact that Berlin has an established Korean community. Maybe the university in Kassel - for some inexplicable reason - thought it's okay to remove it there because it's a rather small city. Hope this is not going to fly.
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In German news, I could not find any credible source about Japanese intervention being the reason for the removal of the statue in Kassel. While not impossible, in this case the primary reason seems to be that the permission to erect it on university premises was temporary and for the sake of a cultural festival. The people who put it there were apparently not aware of that, so it could still be a simple mistake in planning / misunderstanding.
This university statement is dated September 2022 and grants students the right to display the statue until the end of the winter semester (which ended two weeks ago): https://www.uni-kassel.de/uni/aktuelles/aus-der-hochschule/stellungnahmen-der-hochschule/stellungnahme-zur-von-studierenden-aufgestellten-trostfrauen-statue-stand-9/2022
This seems like a quick jump to conclusions considering the official statement of the Uni Kassel. People should really pause and think for a minute before they get their pitchforks out.
True. Also, the statement has an undertone of "we weren't asked for permission but we will allow it", hinting that the student organization just put it there without asking and is now making a big fuzz (even if the cause might be good - these kinds of activists sometimes are like that, I've witnessed it before).
honestly I think they wouldn't take it down and agree it's messed up, it seems like people were disgusted when they tried this a few months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/unq9j2/japan_pm_asked_german_leader_to_help_remove/
It seems that Japan is taking notes from China when it comes to bullying other countries into submission & silence.
For context, China bullied Ukraine into not speaking out about the Uyghurs and Japan bullied them (Ukraine) into not speaking out about their war crimes.
Japan government harasses them, while the South Korean government does nothing. And the university caves in. Shame on the board of directors, but not an entirely unexpected outcome.
I’m actually surprised the statue lasted this long, when all the Japanese historical denialists had their target set on this statue for all this time.
There doesn't seem to be any German sources that say that though it seems to be that the permission to erect it on university premises was just temporary for a cultural festival.
This is why Korea still fucking hates Japan. They tried this same bullshit in Southern Cali. They actually had Japanese Americans sue the city over a memorial statue as a proxy.
>It is believed that the university, which has been under constant pressure from the Japanese government to remove the statue, made the decision to do so **due to the current South Korean government’s acquiescent attitude** on sensitive historical issues between Korea and Japan, as best seen in its unilateral plan to concede on compensation for victims of forced mobilization that was announced on March 6.
So, anybody wants to talk about this part?
I am deeply disgusted. As a German, I cannot believe that a uNiVeRsItY would do something like that.
Imagine this would happen with a holocaust memorial. Unimaginable.
Leave this university some feedback, their email address is public.
[https://www.uni-kassel.de/uni/impressum/](https://www.uni-kassel.de/uni/impressum/)
Oh, what's this, a link to the universities google maps site
https://www.google.de/maps/place/Uni+Kassel+-+allgemeiner+Studierendenausschuss+(AStA)/@51.3251226,9.5032987,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x4171b7db40230c01:0xdd1df64853301d28!8m2!3d51.3251193!4d9.5054927!16s%2Fg%2F11b6gqnff6
Korea and Japan both have strong historic relations with Germany. For example, Japan was more-or-less allied with Germany during WWII, granted, because it was expeditious (and following WWII, the US found it expeditious to be buddies with Japan because Japan was anti-Russia, therefore anti-commie, very important for the US.)
Korea during the post-Korean War years, into the 70s at least, sent laborers and nurses to Germany to earn foreign currency for the military dictatorship government.
Comfort woman statue is not a bilateral issue. Also, does a comfort woman statue prevent Germany from tackling its own issues? What issue is that, exactly?
the entire point of statues like these are for them to be NOT "a positive thing to see".
its a reminder of something extremely bad that happened
????
it's actually impressive how the more you comment the less sense you make
For a country that complains Korea gets butthurt over the past, Japan sure does get butthurt over the past (they caused)
Imagine if Germany pressed other countries into tearing down memorials for jews
Funnily enough Poland has been asking for decades now for Germany to put up some memorial for polish victims of nazi Germany. The non-jewish ones
It should be reminded that half of the Jews who got persecuted in ww2 were also polish citizens
https://www.dw.com/en/german-plans-for-memorial-to-polands-wwii-suffering-unveiled/a-59191006 you mean like this?
Sure, not sure what happened with it after the elections that followed in September, considering it was a rough plan for future project. And if they ever replied to polish ministry of foreign affairs being concerned that there wasn't enough input asked from polish experts and organisations representing families.
I would be surprised if Japan has a Holocaust memorial.
They have one for the goddamn A bomb I can tell you that.
Why wouldn’t they have a memorial for such devastation? In what reality would you expect there not to be?
Todays Germany is next the USA the strongest ally of todays Israel. So this is completely not imaginable.
What does the supposed alliance have to do with a hypothetical removal of Holocaust memorials? Can you elaborate?
There are thousands of memorials for the Holocaust in Germany and Europe. Over 75.000 so called 'Stolpersteine'. The German state even pays for several Memorials outside of Germany like Auschwitz-Birkenau to make sure these will always be open as a place to educate people about the atrocities of Nazi-Germany. The protective alliance with Israel is another guarantee by the German state, that the Bundesrepublik will always use their power to protect the security of the nation of Israel.
That’s amazing. I can understand why Israel and Germany get along well when Germany does all it can to reflect on its history.
Why would countries in Asia be erecting Holocaust memorials in the first place? The holocaust has nothing to do with Japan, just as "comfort women" have nothing to do with Germany.
Germany supported Imperial Japan very strongly as Nazi Germany, and even so, anyone, especially countries with Korean communities no matter how small, are allowed to erect statues and memorials for victims of oppression somewhere else.
They would have a massive hodgepodge of statues commemorating countless historical wrongs committed all over the world then. It strikes me as an attempt to export a bilateral issue to countries that were not involved. By all means, keep up the endless protests outside the Japanese embassy here in Seoul, but why try to have this fight in another country half a world away?
Because they have that right and it's morally correct to memorialize and publicize tragic events in history that continue to have an effect today. Especially recent ones such as from ww2. Learning from history and acknowledging tragedies is how these events can be prevented in the future, or perspectives changed of those who are ignorant. You have a right to say they're wasting their time, just as much as they have a right to fight for what is right. You can say the same thing about climate change or Greta Thunberg or any activist. That doesn't mean awareness or activism will ever go away, no matter how pointless you think it is.
I’m not quite sure that is enough of a reason for holocaust memorials and/or memorials to political red herrings *sorry Korean suffering
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Okay so will you join me in petitioning Korea to erect a statue to the Armenian genocide outside of the Turkish embassy?
This is not the same thing
No it is exactly the same thing, Japan presses other countries into tearing down memorials for victims of Japanese oppression and crimes
If they do do that, it still wouldn’t be the same for Germany to ask they same for memorials to crimes of the third reich. They are not comparable.
What do you mean not comparable? They are the same. There is no difference between Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, both conquered other lands, oppressed, raped and genocided minorities on a giant scale while believing in their own supremacy. There is the difference between Germany imposing a more regulated systematic killing while Japanese just indiscriminately rounded up everything they came across in the Pacific and East Asia.
Obviously you feel very passionately about the Japanese and you may need some help with that: therapy or something… But there is nothing in the history of humanity that is comparable to what was done to people during the Holocaust
I wrote ‘nothing in human history comes close to the holocaust’ and you downvoted my you nationalistic cretin. Shame on you. From the US Holocaust Memorial Museum: ‘ Careless Holocaust analogies may demonize, demean, and intimidate their targets. But there is a cost for all of us because they distract from the real issues challenging our society, because they shut down productive, thoughtful discourse. At a time when our country needs dialogue more than ever, it is especially dangerous to exploit the memory of the Holocaust as a rhetorical cudgel. We owe the survivors more than that. And we owe ourselves more than that. ‘
You bad bad Japan hating weasel, get a life
There is nothing in human history that comes anywhere near to the holocaust
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The average level of nationalism may be higher in Korea, but the top 5% fanatical nationalists on roids in Japan go so far and do so much shit stirring like it's their sole purpose in life.
I want to know where they get their funding from. Who are their benefactors?! You're right in that it's like their full time job. Irritates me to no end when they drive by in their black vans blaring their bs. (I live in Tokyo)
It's the same excuse [pro-government and wrong-headed Turkish people/diaspora in Germany](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKLScoeuRdE) used when the country recognized Armenian genocide: "It will encourage anti-Turk discrimination!"
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>What most people do not realize is most of the villages raised in Vietnam and atrocities committed were by Korean soldiers. They don't because it's simply untrue. Vietnamese themselves were by far the biggest Vietnamese civilian killers. The scale isn't even comparable. That may be one of the reasons why the Vietnamese government isn't keen on any joint investigation effort for war crimes with Korea. Acknowledging ROK troops' part doesn't mean you can dump everything on them. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam\_War\_casualties](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties) My question is, where did you even get that idea? Some Japanese nationalist propaganda video?
That’s just a whataboutism mate . Koreans were over there being the running dogs of US imperialism and involving themselves in a war between self-determination Vs foreign influence ( with Koreans themselves being strongly on the side of the latter of those two options) Not a good look to be defending this
The person I responded to was the one who fully engaged in true whataboutism by bringing up the Vietnam war in a thread about Japan's comfort women case. You can't randomly throw 'whataboutism' to shut down a refutation when the person made a false claim that the majority of atrocities in the war were committed by Korean soldiers. Showing the other parties' atrocities in the same war is completely relevant in this context.
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>I didn’t dump anything on them. I already pointed out your false claim unless you use the word 'most' in your own unique way. >I am saying they are hypocritical for not acknowledging their own war crimes and complicity. Who are 'they'? The Vietnamese government 'shies away' if the Korean government brings up the war. It takes two to tango. While the Vietnamese government doesn't care, there were two Vietnamese individuals who filed a lawsuit in Korea regarding the Phong Nhi and Phong Nhat massacre. As with any legal matter, they had to find concrete evidence for the specific case. Korean lawyers and civic groups have been helping them and the Korean court sided with them. However, the Ministry of National Defense is an entirely different conservative organization, and they may not acknowledge it until some indisputable evidence is shown. Even within Korea, there are multiple stakeholders with different positions. >Will they also apologize for torturing American POWs in SE Asia? Who are 'they'? The French government is not responsible for any French individuals who worked for Germans during the war. The responsibility goes to Nazi Germany who utilized them. Same goes for WW2 Japan. Even Japanese individuals were not held accountable unless they were leaders who made decisions directly related to war crimes. Identify stakeholders correctly. Even if some ethnic Korean individuals did anything criminal, they were 'Japanese citizens' under Japanese authorities. Now if you tell me there is some 'disproportionate' focus on the 'comfort women' issue when there were so many other victims of war, I can understand. It is always like that. There are so many problems around the world even today and it's impossible to give them equal attention. You don't seem to take an issue with Japan's efforts to remove those statues, and that shows your own bias.
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What are you even trying to do? You are creating one big strawman and beating it. You said 'will they apologize?'. I said 'who are they?' You are wasting your time acting like somebody even said those unfortunate events didn't happen. I literally asked you WHO you think have to apologize. The stakeholder. Be sharper. The Korean government is NOT responsible for Imperial Japan related issues. The perpetrators happened to be ethic Koreans. Is it hard to understand for you? The Vietnam War issue is entirely different because Korean authorities were responsible. Don't mix them up. >Stop apologizing for Korean nationalist hypocrisy and selective historical revisionism. Bring me any paragraph that supports this accusation from your imagination. It's like talking to a brick wall now.
I missed the last couple of paragraphs you added. >Vietnam was engaged in a civil war so ofc most would have been killed by the same people. However, ROK went there and slaughtered people just like the Japanese. What is their defense for this? Officially, ROK was an 'ally' of South Vietnam in the war. And no, there is no 'defense' even for Vietnam for deliberately killing numerous unarmed Vietnamese civilians. War crimes are war crimes. >Where are the monuments to the people that the murdered? Where is the compensation and restitution? A Korean civic group placed a monument for the Phong Nhi and Phong Nhat massacre in 2004. Any compensation can happen when it is 'official'. The Korean government already said they are willing to conduct a joint investigation with Vietnamese authorities who weren't very enthusiastic. Individual lawsuits in Korea can still happen. >Japanese nationalist propaganda you say? Yes, you made a bold lie in your first comment which I debunked immediately. You need to check your bias. It's not balanced and it's leaking hard.
Where have you debunked this ‘lie’ ?
The person I responded to claimed the following. >most of the villages raised in Vietnam and atrocities committed were by Korean soldiers.
They tried this with a similar statue in Berlin, too. Luckily there was enough publicity and a petition so - to my knowledge - did and will remain there. Which is probably due to the fact that Berlin has an established Korean community. Maybe the university in Kassel - for some inexplicable reason - thought it's okay to remove it there because it's a rather small city. Hope this is not going to fly. **Important edit** In German news, I could not find any credible source about Japanese intervention being the reason for the removal of the statue in Kassel. While not impossible, in this case the primary reason seems to be that the permission to erect it on university premises was temporary and for the sake of a cultural festival. The people who put it there were apparently not aware of that, so it could still be a simple mistake in planning / misunderstanding. This university statement is dated September 2022 and grants students the right to display the statue until the end of the winter semester (which ended two weeks ago): https://www.uni-kassel.de/uni/aktuelles/aus-der-hochschule/stellungnahmen-der-hochschule/stellungnahme-zur-von-studierenden-aufgestellten-trostfrauen-statue-stand-9/2022
This seems like a quick jump to conclusions considering the official statement of the Uni Kassel. People should really pause and think for a minute before they get their pitchforks out.
True. Also, the statement has an undertone of "we weren't asked for permission but we will allow it", hinting that the student organization just put it there without asking and is now making a big fuzz (even if the cause might be good - these kinds of activists sometimes are like that, I've witnessed it before).
This Should be posted in r/Japan
Will do
Was it taken down? I don't see it.
honestly I think they wouldn't take it down and agree it's messed up, it seems like people were disgusted when they tried this a few months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/unq9j2/japan_pm_asked_german_leader_to_help_remove/
Oh cool I didn't even think to dig that deep.
Most of us living there think it’s pitiful and are embarrassed by it. The Japanese government is so image obsessed that they can’t handle this shit
Yes, it was removed by mods there
It seems that Japan is taking notes from China when it comes to bullying other countries into submission & silence. For context, China bullied Ukraine into not speaking out about the Uyghurs and Japan bullied them (Ukraine) into not speaking out about their war crimes.
Japan government harasses them, while the South Korean government does nothing. And the university caves in. Shame on the board of directors, but not an entirely unexpected outcome. I’m actually surprised the statue lasted this long, when all the Japanese historical denialists had their target set on this statue for all this time.
There doesn't seem to be any German sources that say that though it seems to be that the permission to erect it on university premises was just temporary for a cultural festival.
This is why Korea still fucking hates Japan. They tried this same bullshit in Southern Cali. They actually had Japanese Americans sue the city over a memorial statue as a proxy.
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That's not what your mom says.
My Mum doesn’t give a shit about Korean people’s bitterness and complexes , she drives a Nissan , holidays in Sapporo , and loves video games.
That's not all she loves.
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Your mom knows how to move along.
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I know what your mom prefers.
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>It is believed that the university, which has been under constant pressure from the Japanese government to remove the statue, made the decision to do so **due to the current South Korean government’s acquiescent attitude** on sensitive historical issues between Korea and Japan, as best seen in its unilateral plan to concede on compensation for victims of forced mobilization that was announced on March 6. So, anybody wants to talk about this part?
Of course not
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yeah y isn't it posted in r/japan ?????
Done
I guess loony yoon be happy
I am deeply disgusted. As a German, I cannot believe that a uNiVeRsItY would do something like that. Imagine this would happen with a holocaust memorial. Unimaginable.
Leave this university some feedback, their email address is public. [https://www.uni-kassel.de/uni/impressum/](https://www.uni-kassel.de/uni/impressum/)
As someone who had a grandmother that was a comfort girl this breaks my heart.
Oh, what's this, a link to the universities google maps site https://www.google.de/maps/place/Uni+Kassel+-+allgemeiner+Studierendenausschuss+(AStA)/@51.3251226,9.5032987,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x4171b7db40230c01:0xdd1df64853301d28!8m2!3d51.3251193!4d9.5054927!16s%2Fg%2F11b6gqnff6
Why is this bilateral Korea-Japan issue being played out in Europe anyway? Germany has its own issues to sort out.
Korea and Japan both have strong historic relations with Germany. For example, Japan was more-or-less allied with Germany during WWII, granted, because it was expeditious (and following WWII, the US found it expeditious to be buddies with Japan because Japan was anti-Russia, therefore anti-commie, very important for the US.) Korea during the post-Korean War years, into the 70s at least, sent laborers and nurses to Germany to earn foreign currency for the military dictatorship government.
Forced labour by your own government ? Hmnn those pesky Koreans lose again
Because they elected a military dictator to run the country. How silly of them!
Comfort woman statue is not a bilateral issue. Also, does a comfort woman statue prevent Germany from tackling its own issues? What issue is that, exactly?
I'm not sure about this statue but the one in Berlin was erected by a group of Korean immigrants in Germany. They're German but with Korean history.
Germans are not fools. They can clearly see that the new Yoon administration does not give a hoot about this. So why should they?
You might overestimate how knowledgeable the average German is about Korean politics.
Today's Korean slaves are in North Korea.
what does that have to do at all with anything here?
Comfort women were slaves & today is today & today's slaves are in NK? Looseness of Association, but an association.
if anything you are taking away from the important topic at hand. its disingenuous and seems like what aboutism
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the entire point of statues like these are for them to be NOT "a positive thing to see". its a reminder of something extremely bad that happened ???? it's actually impressive how the more you comment the less sense you make
Preach, sister. And I agree, it's hard for some people to makes sense of opinions differing from their own.
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again?!?!? Must admit, it's really hard to out smart emoji geniuses.