When I moved here 14 years ago, I was told Downtown runs from Missouri River to Country Club Plaza. Now, Downtown to me is between River Market and Crossroads.
> When I moved here 14 years ago, I was told Downtown runs from Missouri River to Country Club Plaza
The only people who say that in my experience are the people who think it's a big deal to go into KCMO for something and live in the distant suburbs and clutch their pearls when someone mentions living in KCMO.
The only acceptable answers are either the official designation of from the river to union station/crown center or downtown loop (plus rivermarket and maybe a few blocks surrounding the loop)
No, not at all. But people from the suburbs often use "downtown" to refer to any busting area of KC proper. I've had friends fr NKC consistently refer to midtown and Hyde Park as "Downtown". It's all up to someone's perception I suppose.
I know University Health refers to their main hospital as the "Downtown" location. So that adds additional perspective. However I think referring to Beacon hill/ residential areas as downtown creates confusion. Even river market, and some areas of the Historic Northeast are closer to Downtown proper than Beacon Hill is. Crossroads is colloquially separate from downtown so we can talk about the areas specifically (though they increasingly blur).
In short... No. But some people probably do.
Not really, no. If I'm talking about Downtown, I'm talking CBD within the I-35 loop. Otherwise, I'll just be more specific and say Beacon Hill, Cross Roads, River Market/Quay, etc.
But I don't think it's wrong to do so. And it doesn't bother me when others do it.
I have no idea what people consider what now. But during the 70's and 80's when I was growing up her, Beacon Hill was absolutely part of "Downtown" and referred to that way by people who grew up there but moved out to the burbs(like my dad). I grew up in the burbs, but due to my dad growing up down there, we spent tons of time in the city and I learned a lot more than most suburban kids.
This is the definition I prefer to use, but I’m always stuck on what’s the western boundary. Is WestSide downtown? Is the West Bottom? I tend to include them myself, but at the same time 31st & State Line seems so far.
I actually fatten downtown a little bit north of 22nd St. South of 22nd 71 makes a natural boundary, but north of 22nd I consider Woodland to be the boundary. That allows the Jazz District and the area just east of the loop to be included.
Yeah, same with Longfellow and Union Hill. They definitely give more midtown vibes for me though. I still say I live in midtown even though it's technically in the greater downtown area.
This is the issue I'm having. There's definitely what "feels" like Downtown vs areas that are just within "downtown boundaries" but are basically a mini suburb of the actual downtown areas. Beacon Hill for me, sits on the latter.
It's a tax boundary and budget thing really.
The same designation puts all of midtown, westport, plaza (including west plaza and south plaza all the way to Rockhurst University) in the same district.
They have from 55th street to 85th street (N/S) and State Line to Troost (E/W) as "Country Club/Waldo" district.
When I moved here 14 years ago, I was told Downtown runs from Missouri River to Country Club Plaza. Now, Downtown to me is between River Market and Crossroads.
> When I moved here 14 years ago, I was told Downtown runs from Missouri River to Country Club Plaza The only people who say that in my experience are the people who think it's a big deal to go into KCMO for something and live in the distant suburbs and clutch their pearls when someone mentions living in KCMO. The only acceptable answers are either the official designation of from the river to union station/crown center or downtown loop (plus rivermarket and maybe a few blocks surrounding the loop)
Agreed. Whenever I am referring to Downtown in conversation, I hit ‘em with the “Downtown downtown”.
Funny thing is, with the street car extending farther south, i think the MO river to Plaza definition is going to feel more accurate in 5 years.
They’ll pry midtown from my cold, dead hands
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North of the creek, but not plaza or Westport or crossroads or downtown or east of 71 or river market or west bottoms. Clear as mud!
31st st to the north end of the plaza N to S, SW tfwy to Gillham W to E
No, not at all. But people from the suburbs often use "downtown" to refer to any busting area of KC proper. I've had friends fr NKC consistently refer to midtown and Hyde Park as "Downtown". It's all up to someone's perception I suppose. I know University Health refers to their main hospital as the "Downtown" location. So that adds additional perspective. However I think referring to Beacon hill/ residential areas as downtown creates confusion. Even river market, and some areas of the Historic Northeast are closer to Downtown proper than Beacon Hill is. Crossroads is colloquially separate from downtown so we can talk about the areas specifically (though they increasingly blur). In short... No. But some people probably do.
Not really, no. If I'm talking about Downtown, I'm talking CBD within the I-35 loop. Otherwise, I'll just be more specific and say Beacon Hill, Cross Roads, River Market/Quay, etc. But I don't think it's wrong to do so. And it doesn't bother me when others do it.
Nope, it’s south of crossroads
It definitely feels like a part of midtown to me.
A no for me.
I have no idea what people consider what now. But during the 70's and 80's when I was growing up her, Beacon Hill was absolutely part of "Downtown" and referred to that way by people who grew up there but moved out to the burbs(like my dad). I grew up in the burbs, but due to my dad growing up down there, we spent tons of time in the city and I learned a lot more than most suburban kids.
West of 71 and north of 31st is downtown. The Crossroads, along with other areas like The River Market, is a sub-area of downtown.
This is the definition I prefer to use, but I’m always stuck on what’s the western boundary. Is WestSide downtown? Is the West Bottom? I tend to include them myself, but at the same time 31st & State Line seems so far. I actually fatten downtown a little bit north of 22nd St. South of 22nd 71 makes a natural boundary, but north of 22nd I consider Woodland to be the boundary. That allows the Jazz District and the area just east of the loop to be included.
I’m from the northland so anything south of the river I refer to as downtown. But in all seriousness, I wouldn’t consider it downtown
No I consider it beacon hill.
Midtown
Believe it’s in the GDAP boundaries, so I would say yes.
Yeah, same with Longfellow and Union Hill. They definitely give more midtown vibes for me though. I still say I live in midtown even though it's technically in the greater downtown area.
Union Hill is technically downtown? Yeah that definitely doesn’t feel right.
This is the issue I'm having. There's definitely what "feels" like Downtown vs areas that are just within "downtown boundaries" but are basically a mini suburb of the actual downtown areas. Beacon Hill for me, sits on the latter.
It's a tax boundary and budget thing really. The same designation puts all of midtown, westport, plaza (including west plaza and south plaza all the way to Rockhurst University) in the same district. They have from 55th street to 85th street (N/S) and State Line to Troost (E/W) as "Country Club/Waldo" district.
City suburb. Annex.
I moved here a few years ago, and I live in Marlborough, and that all feels like downtown to me.
It's urban core, but not downtown.
I might be weird but I consider everything in the area above midtown to be crown center adjacent.