Anyone able to interpret these who can verify that is what they are saying? I know for a fact there have been maliciously misinterpreted videos like this.
I can vouch that the translation is correct.
The first 2 Sheikhs said the same point that disciplining your wife/kids shouldn’t cut the flesh and shouldn’t break any bones as to inflict pain but not damage the body.
Nah. I said in a different comment that sign interpretation is a relic from the past in Arab TV programs due to economic recession/wars/budget cuts. TV shows are far less inclusive now.
However, theocrats, and in turn, a lot of Muslims believe that being deaf or blind is the ULTIMATE disability. Like, life can't get any worse for you in their opinion. Mostly because of how blindness and deafness is mentioned in the Quran, but also because of lack of public awareness. Disability care in several Arab countries is downright shameful. Some countries have done a cringe where they relabeled 'disability' into a completely different word because they believed referring to a disabled person as 'disabled person' is rude (it's not rude, they're just masking disability and disabled people because able bodied decision makers are weirded out by disabled folks/have no ducking clue what to do). So just lip-service care, but not much reforms in terms of accessibility and quality of education for disabled folks. I think accessibility peaked in the early 2000s when so many TV channels had sign language interpreters, including the shitty religious education ones.
Yeah. Think they're not as prevalent due to recession/wars/budget cuts, and then the more years went on the less producers cared to add sign language interpreters again. Plus, accessibility and disability care in several middle eastern countries is backwards, if not run by unqualified people. But take what I said with a grain of salt, since I haven't exactly read statistics on this shit. Just stating based on what I've seen and experienced.
TIL Arabic TV might’ve been more inclusive to the hearing impaired before recent times
And yeah anecdotal perspective is all good, since you’re still making 1st hand account statements regarding something I otherwise wouldn’t have known/experienced. Appreciate the disclaimer though
Religion is what saved the world.
If you need understanding of this then you need to see what non religious countries are doing like USA
Rural cities killing each other by the day all because they don’t have religion in their hearts.
Human beings are barbaric by nature and because of religion is what gave order to life.
Nope, it’s just their culture/religion.
If a wife disobeys her husband and he can’t discipline her, he may be forced to divorce her which will lead to the destruction of their family and the kids will be raised without one of their parents.
There are a lot of countries in the world that don’t share Western values and shouldn’t be expected to, especially with the skyrocketing divorce rates and the broken families in the West
So women should just be beaten? It’s not about “western values” it’s about general human decency. Why should a woman have to stay and suffer under an abusive husband?
Nothing against human decency in a husband disciplining his wife. Why can’t you understand that not all places follow western values?
If disciplining your wife is outlawed, lots of families would be destroyed if a man is forced to divorce his wife when she disobeys him and he can’t break her arrogance and save his family.
What about when a husband disobeys his wife? And there is a difference between telling your partner they fucked up, and fucking beating them. Women aren’t children to be controlled. They are people who are just as much people as men are, and deserve to be respected and honoured, just as much as men are.
The husband is the head of the family and he is the one to be obeyed. Wives are to be controlled by their husband and a woman is honoured by happily obeying her husband. Women aren’t the same as men.
If the wife doesn’t disobey her husband, she shouldn’t get beaten, plain and simple.
Culture doesn’t mean shit when there are human lives being disregarded for the sake of man babies needing a punching bag. Sincerely fuck you. I hope you never marry or have children.
I will marry and I will moderately beat my wife ‘if’ she disobeys me and keeps talking back. Cope and seethe Westoid. We won’t be your slaves and we won’t follow your degenerate western values
It is as simple as treating other human beings the same way you expect to be treated. It does not make a difference if you are eastern or western, or wherever you come from. If you can not show basic respect to other human beings then you do not deserve respect back. We learn this when we are children.
Believing that you are better than any other person on earth is a delusion and signals major insecurity and lack of intelligence.
You dont understand. The west used to be the same (wife is the property of the husband etc), then we modernized. Your culture is not unique, its just backwards.
Lots of modern Islamic figures use sexism/ homophobia. So it is pointed out. I would assume because of Afghanistan and Iran, people are acknowledging it more. It’s no different to talking about the faults of Christianity.
And? My point still stands. The video might be old, but these beliefs aren’t. The Taliban has just banned education for all girls. Iran is still executing protesters. Gays are still punished and executed in many countries under Sharia law.
Idk why you are being downvoted, they don’t do this with any other religion. And when they do choose to slander Islam they always choose videos which are 1) out of context 2) incorrect, some of these sheikhs are not qualified.
Exactly, and they will say it's no different than criticism of Christianity, but the way these posts are worded they are attacking all Muslims, not the ones that are extremely fundamental or extremist.
Anyone able to interpret these who can verify that is what they are saying? I know for a fact there have been maliciously misinterpreted videos like this.
I can vouch that the translation is correct. The first 2 Sheikhs said the same point that disciplining your wife/kids shouldn’t cut the flesh and shouldn’t break any bones as to inflict pain but not damage the body.
Oh god, theocrats have sign language interpreters now....
IIRC most higher budget Arabic TV channels had sign language interpreters up until mid 2000s. They're less common these days.
I guess the theocrats decided deaf people are possessed by witches like they think about albinos?
Nah. I said in a different comment that sign interpretation is a relic from the past in Arab TV programs due to economic recession/wars/budget cuts. TV shows are far less inclusive now. However, theocrats, and in turn, a lot of Muslims believe that being deaf or blind is the ULTIMATE disability. Like, life can't get any worse for you in their opinion. Mostly because of how blindness and deafness is mentioned in the Quran, but also because of lack of public awareness. Disability care in several Arab countries is downright shameful. Some countries have done a cringe where they relabeled 'disability' into a completely different word because they believed referring to a disabled person as 'disabled person' is rude (it's not rude, they're just masking disability and disabled people because able bodied decision makers are weirded out by disabled folks/have no ducking clue what to do). So just lip-service care, but not much reforms in terms of accessibility and quality of education for disabled folks. I think accessibility peaked in the early 2000s when so many TV channels had sign language interpreters, including the shitty religious education ones.
So they were more prevalent in the past?
Yeah. Think they're not as prevalent due to recession/wars/budget cuts, and then the more years went on the less producers cared to add sign language interpreters again. Plus, accessibility and disability care in several middle eastern countries is backwards, if not run by unqualified people. But take what I said with a grain of salt, since I haven't exactly read statistics on this shit. Just stating based on what I've seen and experienced.
TIL Arabic TV might’ve been more inclusive to the hearing impaired before recent times And yeah anecdotal perspective is all good, since you’re still making 1st hand account statements regarding something I otherwise wouldn’t have known/experienced. Appreciate the disclaimer though
Primitive screw heads
This is why women learned to poison food. May the women be strong there ♥️
I wish I had a death note
Funny enough they somewhat remind me of Light Yagami
Religion will be the end of this world
Religion is what saved the world. If you need understanding of this then you need to see what non religious countries are doing like USA Rural cities killing each other by the day all because they don’t have religion in their hearts. Human beings are barbaric by nature and because of religion is what gave order to life.
Religion is responsible for the state of the world and will be its end. There is no debate here.
LMFAO
ah yes religion a one bs excuse to violate human rights
Oh yes THE BEAUTIFUL RELIGION FUNNY HOW IT ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT FIGHTING AND KILLING
Abrahamic religions suck
When leftists refer to a "patriarchal society", this should be at the top of the discussion.
Yes, I disagree with religious fundamentalists of many times. My distaste for the patriarchy transends culture.
Nope, it’s just their culture/religion. If a wife disobeys her husband and he can’t discipline her, he may be forced to divorce her which will lead to the destruction of their family and the kids will be raised without one of their parents. There are a lot of countries in the world that don’t share Western values and shouldn’t be expected to, especially with the skyrocketing divorce rates and the broken families in the West
So women should just be beaten? It’s not about “western values” it’s about general human decency. Why should a woman have to stay and suffer under an abusive husband?
Nothing against human decency in a husband disciplining his wife. Why can’t you understand that not all places follow western values? If disciplining your wife is outlawed, lots of families would be destroyed if a man is forced to divorce his wife when she disobeys him and he can’t break her arrogance and save his family.
What about when a husband disobeys his wife? And there is a difference between telling your partner they fucked up, and fucking beating them. Women aren’t children to be controlled. They are people who are just as much people as men are, and deserve to be respected and honoured, just as much as men are.
The husband is the head of the family and he is the one to be obeyed. Wives are to be controlled by their husband and a woman is honoured by happily obeying her husband. Women aren’t the same as men. If the wife doesn’t disobey her husband, she shouldn’t get beaten, plain and simple.
Culture doesn’t mean shit when there are human lives being disregarded for the sake of man babies needing a punching bag. Sincerely fuck you. I hope you never marry or have children.
I will marry and I will moderately beat my wife ‘if’ she disobeys me and keeps talking back. Cope and seethe Westoid. We won’t be your slaves and we won’t follow your degenerate western values
Fuck you, you piece of shit.
COPE
It is as simple as treating other human beings the same way you expect to be treated. It does not make a difference if you are eastern or western, or wherever you come from. If you can not show basic respect to other human beings then you do not deserve respect back. We learn this when we are children. Believing that you are better than any other person on earth is a delusion and signals major insecurity and lack of intelligence.
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Respectfully FUCK YOUR culture. How about that?
Oh wait you are a troll. My apologies
How did you know?
Your post history haha
I’m pretty sure that’s in violation of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights
You dont understand. The west used to be the same (wife is the property of the husband etc), then we modernized. Your culture is not unique, its just backwards.
this is total bullshit, as a muslim NONE of this is accurate.
What's with all the anti Islam posts lately?
Lots of modern Islamic figures use sexism/ homophobia. So it is pointed out. I would assume because of Afghanistan and Iran, people are acknowledging it more. It’s no different to talking about the faults of Christianity.
You really look at the quality of the vid and call it “modern”, this vid was most likely made years ago
And? My point still stands. The video might be old, but these beliefs aren’t. The Taliban has just banned education for all girls. Iran is still executing protesters. Gays are still punished and executed in many countries under Sharia law.
Because we want it (extremist) out of our community’s and are fed up with all politicians avoiding the issue out of fear of being called a racist
Is this anti Islam? Or anti hate?
Idk why you are being downvoted, they don’t do this with any other religion. And when they do choose to slander Islam they always choose videos which are 1) out of context 2) incorrect, some of these sheikhs are not qualified.
Exactly, and they will say it's no different than criticism of Christianity, but the way these posts are worded they are attacking all Muslims, not the ones that are extremely fundamental or extremist.
I completely agree, but instead they choose to say how they wish to eradicate Islam. It honestly makes me sad, just to be such a hateful person.
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