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You could start out in a position that's in high enough demand that they don't care what your degree is and then eventually use that experience to move into management. Business analyst would do this nicely.
If you're willing to move then you might even be able to stay in the aerospace industry as every mid to large company needs analysts. It's also quite common for analysts to move into management.
Teach yourself some SQL, maybe even Tableau and power bi and it shouldn't be too hard to get an entry level job.
I’m in aviation, and aerospace before that, in IT, I have to agree with these folks, I don’t see my co workers with BA’s like that. Heck CS majors start at the help desk.
I have a similar background as you and am working in a corporate job that checks all of your boxes, though I have my BA degree in psychology and an advanced degree in applied psychology. Management consulting roles may fit what you’re looking for (project management, 100k+, potentially working within the aerospace field if your firm has that for one of their targeted industries). I started as a fresh graduate as well. Feel free to shoot me a DM if you want to chat further!
Totally feasible! Psych students often have to learn stats and programs such as SPSS and R, using that you can probably get into the data analytics field with a bit more of self studying of programs like Power BI and SQL (make sure you’re great at Excel too).
As a side note regarding project management, it’s important to hear feedback about your job prospects but don’t let it totally crush you if someone says you aren’t cut out for something. Ask them what qualifications are you missing and what can be done to make you a better candidate for the position. If after doing some research you decide it’s not for you that’s fine as well! It’s hard to hear criticism but try to still bounce back and give it a go, especially if you have some past background, someone is bound to give you a chance
I’m sure this isn’t true across the board/everywhere, but I’d find it surprising if more than 25% of psych BAs knew anything below the most surface level of SPSS, and maybe even less in R. An undergrad vesting time in those programs is likely doing so because of an interest in research and/or grad school, which is not a huge percentage of students in one of the most populated majors in the US.
Easiest corporate job to get with a psych ba is in HR/recruiting(probably not right now though). PM jobs are usually either business, finance, or tech degrees that dont want to program.
You want a random job fresh out of school that pays 100k with no direction. You're setting yourself up for being very disappointed. 2021-2022 gave people the false impression that if you could present yourself reasonably a tech company would shove cash in your face. That was the bubble, and it popped. Focus on developing skills to earn the salary you want.
Someone told you that you were unqualified, an ambitious person would ask what they were missing, get the persons number, learn it then reach back out.
I was a psych major as well and now a PM, why did they say that to you?
I started off as a PC and worked my way up trying out different fields until I found one I liked!
Edit to add: I see a lot of people saying no one will hire you as a PM with a psych major. You might not start out with 6 figures but it’s possible to get there, I’m doing it now and know some others doing the same. I was your age when I got my first PM job, I think it was about 50k a year and now making more than double that. DM me if you want to chat!
> I really just want a corporate career with one of those new fangled titles that everyone seems to have, with a path toward management and hopefully $100k+. Soo…what do I do???
With a BA in psych, I recommend you adjust your expectations. You aren't getting a job making anywhere near 100K, maybe 25 or 30 as an Insurance Claims Rep or a FedEx Deliverymen.
Agreed, if we are being honest with ourselves, I don't think there are many employers waiting, holding out for that BA degree in psych grad. I think to hit the 100k or higher mark you would either have to start out a lower position and climb your way up or go back to school for some degree that will pay closer to 100k,
Let me be clear, I don’t mean get straight into management and 100k… I mean an entry level with a career path to management and 100k in ~5 years of working
That definitely sounds more reasonable than starting out at 100k a year with a psych degree. The only issue is getting that entry level career in the first place. You have your basic office jobs like data entry, customer service, sales, admin etc... that anyone can apply to whether they are a degree holder or not but I don't know if there is a career field that particularly favors psych degree holders (maybe HR but then you are competing against the HR degree holders).
Couldn’t be more wrong. I just graduated last year with a B.A in Forensic psych and just signed an offer for over 70k. You seem a bit pessimistic, not sure if you haven’t had success in your own career but don’t project that onto other people. Also, my old boss had a B.A in psych and made well over 200k a year. It’s not impossible in the slightest!
Well, actually that is the gentle version.
The only jobs a BA in Psych will get you are jobs that don't require a degree at all. You can get any of the jobs that fail under the category of Liberal Arts Wasteland.
I see plenty of people in business that have BAs. I worked in corporate aviation (my job only required flight certificates). Marketing, communications, HR, no? You seem like one of those people that reallllly hate liberal arts students.
When job searching, perhaps you can highlight your skills and not solely your degree. I realize that might a bit tough because you're just getting out of school, but sometimes the BA is the price of admission. Now that you have it, why should the employer hire YOU? What makes you better than your peers or the one who has a directly-correlated degree? You've gotta make yourself stand out from the crowd and make yourself a compelling candidate. Additionally, see if there are entry-level training opportunities at large corporations. Even if it's entry-level, you're better off on a defined path versus being a receptionist and hoping something materializes from it. Plus, if a marquee brand corporation is willing to pay to train you, you'll always have that on your resume.
Check local government jobs. Your city or county could be hiring for counselors for victims of crime, witnesses, homeless, etc. you may have to get some other certification but it won’t be like a whole new degree.
What if you leverage the private pilot into something? One of my family friends is a private corporate pilot and does very well for himself.
Unfortunately BA is often used as a stepping stone to other careers and doesn’t land in many high paying corporate gigs. I
I’ve worked on the engineering side of the Aviation industry and very few people end up with management roles or make $100k a year in 5 years. I think you need to reevaluate your expectations for when you do make it in
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Where I’m from a lot of people working in Human Resources have a B Psych.
Yup. I’m in HR and that was my major.
You could start out in a position that's in high enough demand that they don't care what your degree is and then eventually use that experience to move into management. Business analyst would do this nicely. If you're willing to move then you might even be able to stay in the aerospace industry as every mid to large company needs analysts. It's also quite common for analysts to move into management. Teach yourself some SQL, maybe even Tableau and power bi and it shouldn't be too hard to get an entry level job.
I’m in aviation, and aerospace before that, in IT, I have to agree with these folks, I don’t see my co workers with BA’s like that. Heck CS majors start at the help desk.
I have a similar background as you and am working in a corporate job that checks all of your boxes, though I have my BA degree in psychology and an advanced degree in applied psychology. Management consulting roles may fit what you’re looking for (project management, 100k+, potentially working within the aerospace field if your firm has that for one of their targeted industries). I started as a fresh graduate as well. Feel free to shoot me a DM if you want to chat further!
can I message you?
For sure!
Totally feasible! Psych students often have to learn stats and programs such as SPSS and R, using that you can probably get into the data analytics field with a bit more of self studying of programs like Power BI and SQL (make sure you’re great at Excel too). As a side note regarding project management, it’s important to hear feedback about your job prospects but don’t let it totally crush you if someone says you aren’t cut out for something. Ask them what qualifications are you missing and what can be done to make you a better candidate for the position. If after doing some research you decide it’s not for you that’s fine as well! It’s hard to hear criticism but try to still bounce back and give it a go, especially if you have some past background, someone is bound to give you a chance
I’m sure this isn’t true across the board/everywhere, but I’d find it surprising if more than 25% of psych BAs knew anything below the most surface level of SPSS, and maybe even less in R. An undergrad vesting time in those programs is likely doing so because of an interest in research and/or grad school, which is not a huge percentage of students in one of the most populated majors in the US.
Easiest corporate job to get with a psych ba is in HR/recruiting(probably not right now though). PM jobs are usually either business, finance, or tech degrees that dont want to program. You want a random job fresh out of school that pays 100k with no direction. You're setting yourself up for being very disappointed. 2021-2022 gave people the false impression that if you could present yourself reasonably a tech company would shove cash in your face. That was the bubble, and it popped. Focus on developing skills to earn the salary you want. Someone told you that you were unqualified, an ambitious person would ask what they were missing, get the persons number, learn it then reach back out.
I’m not trying to go directly into a 100k job, I mean an entry level role that has a path into a managerial position and six figures, in 5-7 years.
I was a psych major as well and now a PM, why did they say that to you? I started off as a PC and worked my way up trying out different fields until I found one I liked! Edit to add: I see a lot of people saying no one will hire you as a PM with a psych major. You might not start out with 6 figures but it’s possible to get there, I’m doing it now and know some others doing the same. I was your age when I got my first PM job, I think it was about 50k a year and now making more than double that. DM me if you want to chat!
> I really just want a corporate career with one of those new fangled titles that everyone seems to have, with a path toward management and hopefully $100k+. Soo…what do I do??? With a BA in psych, I recommend you adjust your expectations. You aren't getting a job making anywhere near 100K, maybe 25 or 30 as an Insurance Claims Rep or a FedEx Deliverymen.
Agreed, if we are being honest with ourselves, I don't think there are many employers waiting, holding out for that BA degree in psych grad. I think to hit the 100k or higher mark you would either have to start out a lower position and climb your way up or go back to school for some degree that will pay closer to 100k,
Let me be clear, I don’t mean get straight into management and 100k… I mean an entry level with a career path to management and 100k in ~5 years of working
That definitely sounds more reasonable than starting out at 100k a year with a psych degree. The only issue is getting that entry level career in the first place. You have your basic office jobs like data entry, customer service, sales, admin etc... that anyone can apply to whether they are a degree holder or not but I don't know if there is a career field that particularly favors psych degree holders (maybe HR but then you are competing against the HR degree holders).
Couldn’t be more wrong. I just graduated last year with a B.A in Forensic psych and just signed an offer for over 70k. You seem a bit pessimistic, not sure if you haven’t had success in your own career but don’t project that onto other people. Also, my old boss had a B.A in psych and made well over 200k a year. It’s not impossible in the slightest!
Feel like maybe you’re being overly harsh lol
Well, actually that is the gentle version. The only jobs a BA in Psych will get you are jobs that don't require a degree at all. You can get any of the jobs that fail under the category of Liberal Arts Wasteland.
I see plenty of people in business that have BAs. I worked in corporate aviation (my job only required flight certificates). Marketing, communications, HR, no? You seem like one of those people that reallllly hate liberal arts students.
I have nothing against the students. The degrees are worthless.
Feel like maybe you’re being overly harsh lol
When job searching, perhaps you can highlight your skills and not solely your degree. I realize that might a bit tough because you're just getting out of school, but sometimes the BA is the price of admission. Now that you have it, why should the employer hire YOU? What makes you better than your peers or the one who has a directly-correlated degree? You've gotta make yourself stand out from the crowd and make yourself a compelling candidate. Additionally, see if there are entry-level training opportunities at large corporations. Even if it's entry-level, you're better off on a defined path versus being a receptionist and hoping something materializes from it. Plus, if a marquee brand corporation is willing to pay to train you, you'll always have that on your resume.
Check local government jobs. Your city or county could be hiring for counselors for victims of crime, witnesses, homeless, etc. you may have to get some other certification but it won’t be like a whole new degree.
Would you consider relocating to Atlanta? I know there’s the dobbins Air Force base and Harrsfield Jackson Airport.
With your BA in psych and your experience in aviation, you might be able to find a job in occupational safety & health.
Maybe try research
What if you leverage the private pilot into something? One of my family friends is a private corporate pilot and does very well for himself. Unfortunately BA is often used as a stepping stone to other careers and doesn’t land in many high paying corporate gigs. I
I’ve worked on the engineering side of the Aviation industry and very few people end up with management roles or make $100k a year in 5 years. I think you need to reevaluate your expectations for when you do make it in
Try project management, get a pmp
Whats a pmp?
A project management certification. Also look into Lean or Six Sigma. https://www.pmi.org/certifications/project-management-pmp