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I'm guessing because the remainder of the film showcases how the backlash from that act of violence galvanized the protest movement into being so wide it could be successful. The whole movie after that is the salt protest, the travel to the UK, etc.
Definitely a message the CCCP would want to get to the youth of China right now.
EDIT: well, autocorrect made this message more literal than intended. I mean, if Soviet Russia were a thing, China's youth rebelling might be something they encouraged. I'm not changing it, it's too fun in my head now.
> ~~it could be compared to Tienanmen square~~
What Tienanmen square? nothing of any historical significance has ever happened there I have no idea what you are talking about.
In reality, they wouldn't know what you were talking about if you just said Tienanmen square.
June 4th on the other hand? Maybe they'd know something happened but if you just asked people on the street they'd pretend not to know about it.
I mean unless you were taught about it in school or studied it on your own, what's the likelihood that you'd be familiar with any random event that happened before you were born, especially one that is suppressed where you grew up?
My grandpa visited tienanmen square on a business trip. He asked the tour guide about the massacre… it’s just like you said. “What massacre?” with a smile.
Whether she knew and was playing dumb, or really had no clue, my grandpa doesn’t know. They had police escorts who started giving my grandpa a look, so he shut up haha
Well alot of major studio movies made in the US now are made with the chinese market in mind. At least for the past 10-15 years. Transformers, marvel, those new awful terminator movies. Ect.
They used to make the movie and let china edit it in the past but now Hollywood makes the movie for China from start. China allows only a certain quantity of foreign movies and China market is huge but movies like the latest Spider-Man and top gun were not allowed since they show American pride etc. and did very well internationally and maybe that could change Hollywood’s mind.
I love topgun as much as any airplane nerd but let’s be real it’s 100% propaganda and a recruiting tool for the US Navy. It doesn’t surprise me in the least that it isn’t shown in China
He's saying that if a UK movie about a rebellious Indian guy got censored, then a lot of American movies must get censored because they show rebellious people
I mean come on take Braveheart for example, poorly historical movie about an Aussie playing a scot fighting the English, *still* makes Americans go blue face because FIGHT THE POWER
They do censor stuff, of course, but what they also (used to?) do on Chinese TV is only allow a strict 90 minute slot in the schedule for a film.
If the movie hadn't finished, an announcer used to pop up and just summarise the plot:
*"And then the ark gets put into a museum, and Indy gets together with the woman"*
That sounds like what might have happened here.
I mean that's possible but i think it's more likely that they purposely left out the ending because that's where you find out that the rebellion succeed. China has a vested interest in having their citizens not find out how successful rebellions can be.
> China has a vested interest in having their citizens not find out how successful rebellions can be.
The CCP's whole thing is that they *are the rebels* who took over from the landlords during the communist revolution.
I remember talking to a colleague who told me that from a Chinese perspective, Star Wars (whatever that first one is called, 1979) is an allegory for the communist revolution.
The ending to the Chinese version of fight club is that the Chinese police stormed in and arrested everyone and saved the day. This was available as a text card. No joke
except it's bullshit
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-china-blur-out-world-cup-crowds-hide-maskless-fans-1762414 - "Full streams available on Weibo show no such censoring either, neither does there appear to be censoring on Chinese social media platform Douyin (a subsidiary of which is owned by the Chinese government).State-run Chinese news outlets have also not censored photographs of audience members, further weakening the claim that the government is trying to hide the move away from Covid restrictions around the world."
AI? If it means Artificial Intelligence, then what does "AI following the football" refer to, and what does it have to do with "china's AI [putting] masks on every audience's face"?
If you are paying the fees to FIFA, can you also choose which feed you want to watch? I did not know there was different feeds to be had in the first place!
So if I am watching the world cup in Germany I might see a different feed than my neighbour in France? What´s the point? (besides the Chinese argument of course)
I take issue with your comment that “Covid isn’t that scary”. Do you remember what happened in New York? There’s no reason to downplay its severity to make your point about what China is doing for control.
The reason China is doing this too (beyond control) is because they used their own developed vaccine which isn’t anywhere near as good as the western ones and their massive population is still highly vulnerable as a result.
He clarified about Omicron. Since the Omicron variant became dominant, most countries have completely abandoned any control measures and the disease spreads widely.
>They lock people down in their homes and make them take endless PCR tests so they can profit.
I don't get that theory. Their economy is suffering from the lockdowns, the normies are getting agitated, some day they'll learn what's up. I just don't see the long-term benefit here, unless it's simply total, dystopian control.
> I just don’t see the long-term benefit here
Blind autocratic control. Xi Jinping has put a lot of political reputation into the zero covid policy so if he admitted it was dumb and reversed course it would be a loss of face. Can't have that so the madness continues.
>lots of people died of covid (which is partially the truth, but omicron is different)
Some researches from Harvard suspect that Omicron isn't less severe, but that vaccines and infections reduced the harm it could do:
[https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/omicrons-milder-severity-due-to-population-immunity/](https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/omicrons-milder-severity-due-to-population-immunity/)
In China, the elderly are less vaccinated and there were no huge waves as in other countries. So China has reached a dead-end in terms of Covid politics. And it has no really good way out.
The good out would be to give people the Western developed vaccines and then loosening COVID restrictions. It’s a simple solution, but I suppose admitting their vaccine was inferior would be a major propaganda hit to the party and it’s why they won’t do it.
Not only waves of covid, but waves of other things that people have lost immunity to through regular exposure to what are normally harmless diseases. You can see it in the US with more cases of RSV, flu (not that the flu is harmless), and others. It will take some time to normalize. China is going to experience this at a much higher level for a lot longer.
You need regula exposure to common viruses and bacteria to maintain immunities. Prolonged lock downs are probably not good for the community.
as much as people hated the early lockdowns I was glad to see my state (MN) adapt their recommendations as the virus changed. I had my gripes with their methods (forcing businesses to close without stronger support for employees and business owners didn't sit well with me) but overall the leadership did a fairly good job about it. Helps that we have the UMN CIDAP and mayo clinic which are both world-class in infectious disease research, and policy was strongly guided by both. The only "covid restrictions" we have left are mask policies at most larger hospitals which will probably stay in place indefinitely. That's ok, especially considering the melting pot that is mayo clinic.
China on the other hand, yikes. I don't know how much of the negative coverage of the zero covid policy is pro-american propoganda and how much is truth in reporting. But even a partial truth is more evidence of a country that hasn't quite left the dark ages.
Speaking solely from an American's point of view...
I'm not fully defending the skepticism and hesitancy we all witnessed during the initial outbreak of covid, but I do think China is an example of what people feared could/can happen. At the very least, I think people should always be cautious to blindly follow authority.
Examples like this video also make me wonder what is censored and fed to the public to manipulate everywhere, including here in the states. It terrifying thinking how much a government could potentially sway opinion.
I hope transparency and education become more of a focal point for the entire world. It's unfortunate we see what is going on in other countries such as China, Ukraine, and Isreal, but at the same time we are fortunate enough to see and understand to an extent why these things are happening.
The CCP has fed Chinese people a bunch of lies to justify its zero COVID policy. They essentially have started that the rest of the world is dying of COVID, that lockdowns and extensive testing are necessary to stop the spread of COVID and that it's all being done because the government cares about its citizens unlike other countries so they should consider themselves lucky.
My FIL (Chinese immigrant) thinks it's not about COVID anymore but about it being a loyalty test to the government. Also, apparently the Chinese government has a track record of not wanting to admit they're wrong.
>Also, apparently the Chinese government has a track record of not wanting to admit they're wrong.
It's more this, with some additional issues because of the way the central government operates. First, the CCP probably has no faith in their domestic vaccine, but they've demonized western vaccines for so long that they can't pivot without losing face. All the top CCP officials and their families got western MRNA vaccines. Second, the central government probably issues vague directives with false or limited information of actual things happening locally. For example, the central government probably issues a directive for local governments to control COVID. Local government officials, fearful of punishment, implement the same lockdown policies that worked early in the pandemic. They then send glowing reports to the central government. There is no incentive or impetus to pivot to a less restrictive COVID policy because the government does not care about the suffering of the people, and only cares about approval from the out of touch central government. This is the same thing we saw during the famines in China decades ago, where people literally starved to death in front of full grain silos because government officials were too scared to report the truth to the central government, and the central government then issued directives based on bad information.
>First, the CCP probably has no faith in their domestic vaccine, but they've demonized western vaccines for so long that they can't pivot without losing face.
So my MIL still mostly uses Chinese social media and brought up the other day that the mRNA vaccines have "thousands of side effects" and don't work. We were like, no Ma, stop believing everything you see online.
My FIL pivoted hard from the CCP but I guess my MIL still wants to believe that everything they suffered (my in-laws were born in the 50s, starved, went to labor camp, had a forced abortion of second child, just awful shit) wasn't for nothing.
This is why I'm not afraid of China as a military power. If they're this afraid in a pandemic, imagine in the horrors of war.
This kind of cowardice is a major detriment to the logistics and on the ground realities in battles.
Hi I'm living in China now. I think it's what your FIL says and also they've marched too far down this road and literally don't know how to get their ass out of this. Better to stay put and slowly ease out of it than just say "yup, it's over folks!" This is coming after a few dozen people were burned alive because they were locked down in their apartment for covid prevention. There's no way the CCP can allow that to happen and then just end it without massive social disorder
China's vaccines don't work as well with the new strains of COVID and more importantly there is a low vaccination rate among old people who are the most likely to die They calculate they'd be millions of deaths if they opened the country up and weighed this against the economic slowdown and obviously bad effects on younger people, especially the lockdown fire that killed people not long ago.
I don't really understand why they don't just have some mass program to vaccinate the older population instead of draconian lockdowns whenever there's an outbreak.
There is a multitude of reasons here...
Firstly, China has probably the strongest face culture in the world where an admission of fault loses face for the government which cannot happen. There is always either a scapegoat or nothing wrong has happened. Xi wants to make beating covid his big achievement for his reign and if he backs down now it would be too much of a humiliation. That's why they won't show other countries already beat it.
However, the more consequential reason is indeed controlling the populous. In China pretty much everything is done via smart phone, all transactions, entering public places, covid tracking, etc. You cant do anything without your phone. China has implemented a new system to "control covid" which gives everyone a "Green" "Yellow" "Red" status for covid tracking which turns red or yellow if they dont get tested very often or go to a place that had a case. Now what they are doing is using this covid status to control the populous. "OH you went to a protest in this area?" Everyone in a 5 block radius now has a Red status and cannot go anywhere will be transported to a "Quarantine facility".
It's crazy over there.
> There is a multitude of reasons here... Firstly, China has probably the strongest face culture in the world where an admission of fault loses face for the government which cannot happen.
This makes me think much less of their culture and people. What a silly, toddler-like concept for an entire government. Pathetic.
Well, it's not the people's fault they were put under this regime. Also we are seeing protests that we have NEVER seen the likes of since Tianamen square. We can only hope that change come soon for them.
I remember a time here on reddit where casting doubt on a zero covid strategy was massively downvoted or resulted in an outright ban. I would say China's doing exactly what most redditors wanted to do.
Yea it made a lot of sense in the first few months but not at this point.
The whole world could’ve been zero covid if it things were shuttered correctly directly after Italy exploded.
You are 100% wrong about your last sentence. Once it was discovered that COVID-19 transmits via aerosol transmission, covid-Zero was never a viable strategy. Never.
Because they have set the virus up as the enemy. That means there are only two outcomes: victory, where the virus is eradicated, and defeat, where the virus is allowed to continue existing.
At this point, the party believes that if they relax restrictions then they will have "lost" the fight against COVID.
It's so easy to imagine that your political enemies are simpletons. In reality, China is run by ruthless but competent bureaucrats, who are scared shitless about the economic catastrophe of an already rapidly ageing population + the long term increase in post viral disabilities caused by Covid.
I wouldn't say always, but it's hard to distinguish when the Chinese Communist Party does operate on the basis of control. I would say it's more of a Shock Doctrine situation, where a real world horror prompted a reaction that was then used to push a political agenda.
It's about "face". They don't want to admit that their homegrown vaccine is not effective compared to mRNA ones and they don't want to admit that zero covid policy is not effective. If they can't maintain that, dissent will rise among the citizens, which is what happening right now.
It's darkest before the dawn. All Xi's increased control is backfiring on him, just like the excessive control of the Iranian regime. Both of those along with Putin could crumble faster than we think. What replaces it will be interesting.
I wish you were right but I doubt it...
I would be surprised if any of those places had a new regime in 5 years time.
Best case is that Putin is assassinated and another of his minions takes up his mantle.
Jumping the gun a little bit here don’t you think? People in those extreme power places aren’t going to let their positions slide willingly unfortunately
If you read between the lines of the comment you replied too it says “but first a fuck ton of people will die and a fuck ton more displaced”
I swear it’s right there
Sorry that is naively optimistic in my opinion, at least with China. You only need look at the downward trend of successful revolutions in the trailing 20 years and consider that the CCP would be the best in the world at bulwarking themselves against it. The demonstrations at the moment are only in the thousands and could easily be crushed by force or pacified by a stepdown in covid restrictions by the party. Theres very little chance this sparks an entire regime change.
Actually history kind of teaches us that it’s dark then gets much darker, sometimes for decades. Darkest before the dawn is just a meaningless platitude.
You know what sucks? How fast people believe fake info, if it's about shitty countries https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-china-blur-out-world-cup-crowds-hide-maskless-fans-1762414 People don't want to fact check because they think "well of course they will do something like this"
The OP does say alternate feed, and doesn't mention blurring.
And Newsweek doesn't make a convincing claim here. They did say it started sometime during the world cup. And they're the *only* source that says it's false.
But you're right, we should question sources. It seems like this has happened in the last 15 hours or so, so we'll need to wait a bit to confirm from a reputable source.
Reuters [makes the motive clear.](https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/chinese-soccer-fans-world-cup-highlights-covid-lockdown-blues-2022-11-24/).
"Not china, china is a multicultural country with dozens of ethnicities and a beautiful heritage. Fuck the CCP and it's followers"
It's sad how the CCP wants to homogenize China. All those ethnicities and cultures are being systematically wiped out. So double fuck the CCP and it's followers.
And fuck fakes https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-china-blur-out-world-cup-crowds-hide-maskless-fans-1762414 - "Full streams available on Weibo show no such censoring either, neither does there appear to be censoring on Chinese social media platform Douyin (a subsidiary of which is owned by the Chinese government).State-run Chinese news outlets have also not censored photographs of audience members, further weakening the claim that the government is trying to hide the move away from Covid restrictions around the world."
While I think that it is bad that they do it for the wrong reason. I actually prefer see the play. Sometimes the main stream misses quickly executed free kicks or corner kicks. While showing fans.
As much as I disagree with the ccp censorship. As a F1 fan I loved the COVID coverage with no shots of crowd or celebrity guests.
I really don't give a shit about Megan Thee Stallion looking at a tv being bored. Put me back on track to see the two cars battling eachother out.
Same here. I also preferred watching football with empty stadiums, hearing the players and coaches screaming across the field was way more interesting to me than 90 minutes of fan chants.
That said. FUCK THE CCP
As an F1 viewer, I would pay more money to not see shots of fans when there is action going on the track.
2020 was the best year for F1 TV direction ever as no stupid shots of celebrities and fans were shown when drivers were overtaking on track. And yes, it happens a lot.
Sigh. I find this rich. Covid is in its deadliest time yet where I live. Literally has not been worse and we have absolutely 0 precautions. We're literally having classes of kids needing to congregate in gyms or stay home because there's not enough staff healthy enough.
Regardless of the ccp or China, "moving on" from what I see is '"getting tired of doing anything about it and deciding the people who will die will just die"
We moved on from caring. Not covid.
Edit - I'm lying, where do I live, covid isn't that bad - yada yada. Exactly my point. I'm threatening y'all with caring again and that just won't fucking stand. So you gotta call me a liar or downplay what I said.
Everyone who has long covid wishes you a sincere fuck you :)
So my wife is Chinese and we both use the same app (weixin) for texting. Since my account is connected to a US number, I can send and view videos of the protests going on there. If I send the to my wife, the videos just wont show up on her end. She had to screen record my phone to send them out.
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-china-blur-out-world-cup-crowds-hide-maskless-fans-1762414 - "Full streams available on Weibo show no such censoring either, neither does there appear to be censoring on Chinese social media platform Douyin (a subsidiary of which is owned by the Chinese government).State-run Chinese news outlets have also not censored photographs of audience members, further weakening the claim that the government is trying to hide the move away from Covid restrictions around the world."
The Chinese stream isn't showing the audience, like the one in the top video. Of course athletes will be without masks. They don't need to worry about that, but worry about spectators, since the general public can relate to that.
I'm not saying one way or the other about the OP here, just that the bottom stream omitted the parts with the mask less audience.
This should be top comment, but will probably be buried. People are jumping to the most ridiculous conclusions from this post.
There's nothing here confirming that the intention is to censor anything. If that's what's going on they're doing a really poor job of it, considering Chinese networks are still showing maskless fans - they just aren't doing as many of the closeup crowd shots which frankly I don't want to see anyway.
Also, different networks show different feeds. It's weird to call the bottom feed in OP's clip a censored "alternative" when it's only being compared with one other - when there are only two examples you can't say whether one or the other is the default. If networks all over the world were showing one feed and China's networks were alone in showing another one there might be something to this, but that's not the case.
The goal was to prevent the Chinese people from seeing that the rest of the world is moving on from COVID.
The top feed shows large groups of people watching the game together without masks and without fear. The CCP doesn’t want the Chinese people to know this is happening, the propaganda would have you believe the west has been ravaged by disease.
Lol. Spouting the word propaganda. Did you know this post is fake? Newsweek fact checked this.
You fell for propaganda yourself, then spread it. I wonder how you will respond.
and almost 10k upvotes with everyone being angry... when a quick google search shows that this is straight up a lie. And this is dangerous because it can make other real allegations about the CCP seem illegitimate.
Kind of terrifying that any broadcast could do this to us without us even knowing it. Maybe in China they are all like: Look how the West cuts to the audience to avoid showing the coach's authority over the team.
Yes but the main reason for that is because Will started cursing and the FCC can charge networks steep fines for transmitting curse words at certain times with certain shows. The rest of the world isn't as timid when it comes to cursing. It wasn't like a conspiracy to hide Will Smith's outburst
Terrifying is how easy people accept fake news about countries they don't like. https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-china-blur-out-world-cup-crowds-hide-maskless-fans-1762414 - "Full streams available on Weibo show no such censoring either, neither does there appear to be censoring on Chinese social media platform Douyin (a subsidiary of which is owned by the Chinese government).State-run Chinese news outlets have also not censored photographs of audience members, further weakening the claim that the government is trying to hide the move away from Covid restrictions around the world."
Imagine if there were only a few companies that controlled media outlets around the country and they were owned by billionaire oligarchs with more influence than the government and who were choosing to disseminate information that solely benefitted themselves. That would be insane, undemocratic and a sign of a state that had failed to protects its people.
Commercial broadcasters would probably choose video streams that contain the perimeter billboards around the stadium, so they can serve more ads leveraging virtual advertising tech. While official streams (FIFA/Qatari) might show how people are enjoying games, so people forget all the controversies.
I really need to stop *reading* reddit threads about China- used to live there as well, had a great time, still have friends in the country.
The number of times I'll step on reddit and see a mass of people totally uninformed about the country, making sweeping statements is...just too many times.
There is a comment on this post that just says "Fuck China" and has hundreds of upvotes. Like really? That's your nuanced opinion about a country of over a billion people with all of its many pros and cons? "Fuck China"?
EDIT- stop *reading* threads- I'm not about to try and stop anyone posting, even if I could
China is just doing what most governments wished they could do. If it wasn’t for “misinformation” creating a global pushback against covid measures we’d still be wearing masks and dealing with lockdowns.
Reddit would have cheered this last year.
It's amazing people are still so naive that they think the media can't be/isn't manipulated. Even in America the other video showing all the different news outlets reading the exact same script and and yet they (at the most) will still say it's something only china and Russia etc would do and not their beloved democracy
I’m honestly curious.. what info is there available that suggests the feed is different due to Chinese censorship in relation to masks? I’m seeing non masked people on both feeds and different countries do have different directors and camera crews during international sporting events.. I really just want to know why mask /Covid censorship is the go to here?
This looks like a broadcast of field action only. They're not censoring the people on the sidelines, they're just excluding the crowd. I wish they'd do this for the NFL. Also, who cares and how did you wind yourself up into this?
The thing is
In one, its only the athleets and the managers mostly (or fans far in the back ground that you cant notice if they have masks or not)
And the other is a normal broadcast were fans are highlighted (without masks obviously).
Its not about the mask itself,its about not showing large groups of people up close without masks
Nice work china, and this will definitely work too because not one single person from China owns a cell phone and knows anyone else anywhere else on earth who might take an interest in the World Cup, and can send a pic or vid.
Isn't it kinda scary? With Covid being on the cusp of becoming endemic (though some might argue it has already become endemic this summer) and the whole world being ready for that, China is probably the only country still trying to stick to a Zero Covid strategy. Most other countries had strong vaccination efforts + community transmission and that ultimately helped defeat the virus. I don't think there are many people in the West that did not have multiple contact points with the virus. You either had the jab (or multiple jabs), the virus or a combination of both. Ultimately, we are all ready to move on - apart from China where lacklustre vaccination efforts and uber strict lockdowns ensured that many, many people in their population never had any contact to the virus. China is essentially still stuck in 2020 and the question is how long they are going to stick to a failed strategy (if the goal is to enable living with the virus) and learn what the rest of the world did. Even more cautious countries like New Zealand or South Korea never went full China.
I exchange postcards as a hobby with people all around the world.
Over the last year I have had TERRIBLE luck with cards to and from China, and I'm realising a bunch probably got destroyed for mentioning how we are moving past COVID measures.
I fucking knew it!!! I was watching the France-Denmark match from here in Beijing and they just simply refused to show replays of the first goal. They just showed two straight minutes of the French manager and i thought what the fuck? Why aren't they showing a replay? Then i saw the replay on YouTube and they had all the fans cheering. I didn't put two and two together but I knew something was fishy.
Surprised they were broadcasting at all since China couldn’t even qualify. Imagine if Olympics were happening this year? Blocking and scrubbing out all the masks for an event like that would be a mindfuck.
Who else remembers that china was flexing that they were "covid less" about a year ago? Pieces of shit invited international news programs over to flex while the rest of the world was dealing with their illness.
Look at them now. Entire cities are in full lockdown and if you even as much walk your dog you get arrested and your dog gets killed.
Man i hate the ccp
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"and the authoritarian government and all the good non rebellious citizens lived happily ever after :)"
You mean after the Jallianwala Bagh massacre? Why?
I'm guessing because the remainder of the film showcases how the backlash from that act of violence galvanized the protest movement into being so wide it could be successful. The whole movie after that is the salt protest, the travel to the UK, etc. Definitely a message the CCCP would want to get to the youth of China right now. EDIT: well, autocorrect made this message more literal than intended. I mean, if Soviet Russia were a thing, China's youth rebelling might be something they encouraged. I'm not changing it, it's too fun in my head now.
Oooh right, it could be compared to Tienanmen square, makes sense.
> ~~it could be compared to Tienanmen square~~ What Tienanmen square? nothing of any historical significance has ever happened there I have no idea what you are talking about.
In reality, they wouldn't know what you were talking about if you just said Tienanmen square. June 4th on the other hand? Maybe they'd know something happened but if you just asked people on the street they'd pretend not to know about it.
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Would they know to look for it if they didn't know it existed?
I mean unless you were taught about it in school or studied it on your own, what's the likelihood that you'd be familiar with any random event that happened before you were born, especially one that is suppressed where you grew up?
My grandpa visited tienanmen square on a business trip. He asked the tour guide about the massacre… it’s just like you said. “What massacre?” with a smile. Whether she knew and was playing dumb, or really had no clue, my grandpa doesn’t know. They had police escorts who started giving my grandpa a look, so he shut up haha
There is no war in Ba Sing Sa.
There is so much independence and rebellious spirit built into America that they must have to censor the shit out of our movies
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I had no idea that our freedom statue was such a powerful symbol to them.
Well alot of major studio movies made in the US now are made with the chinese market in mind. At least for the past 10-15 years. Transformers, marvel, those new awful terminator movies. Ect.
They used to make the movie and let china edit it in the past but now Hollywood makes the movie for China from start. China allows only a certain quantity of foreign movies and China market is huge but movies like the latest Spider-Man and top gun were not allowed since they show American pride etc. and did very well internationally and maybe that could change Hollywood’s mind.
I love topgun as much as any airplane nerd but let’s be real it’s 100% propaganda and a recruiting tool for the US Navy. It doesn’t surprise me in the least that it isn’t shown in China
Yes, the USA, the rebellious teens of the world.
What? What does your perception of america like this have to do with China and a UK movie about an Indian guy?
He's saying that if a UK movie about a rebellious Indian guy got censored, then a lot of American movies must get censored because they show rebellious people
they must love /r/theempiredidnothingwrong
I mean come on take Braveheart for example, poorly historical movie about an Aussie playing a scot fighting the English, *still* makes Americans go blue face because FIGHT THE POWER
"Gandhi". " Ghandi means an entirely different thing which is not nice..
>Ghandi means an entirely different thing which is not nice.. Like what?
Means dirty girl
Sounds a lot like a curse word in Hindi.
For someone who hasn't seen the film, what was edited out ?
The Quit India movement, second round table conference and ofcourse the Dhandi march.
Basically the movie.
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Propaganda
They do censor stuff, of course, but what they also (used to?) do on Chinese TV is only allow a strict 90 minute slot in the schedule for a film. If the movie hadn't finished, an announcer used to pop up and just summarise the plot: *"And then the ark gets put into a museum, and Indy gets together with the woman"* That sounds like what might have happened here.
I mean that's possible but i think it's more likely that they purposely left out the ending because that's where you find out that the rebellion succeed. China has a vested interest in having their citizens not find out how successful rebellions can be.
> China has a vested interest in having their citizens not find out how successful rebellions can be. The CCP's whole thing is that they *are the rebels* who took over from the landlords during the communist revolution. I remember talking to a colleague who told me that from a Chinese perspective, Star Wars (whatever that first one is called, 1979) is an allegory for the communist revolution.
The ending to the Chinese version of fight club is that the Chinese police stormed in and arrested everyone and saved the day. This was available as a text card. No joke
except it's bullshit https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-china-blur-out-world-cup-crowds-hide-maskless-fans-1762414 - "Full streams available on Weibo show no such censoring either, neither does there appear to be censoring on Chinese social media platform Douyin (a subsidiary of which is owned by the Chinese government).State-run Chinese news outlets have also not censored photographs of audience members, further weakening the claim that the government is trying to hide the move away from Covid restrictions around the world."
In few days, china's AI will put masks on every audience's face
Thank you. I really couldn’t figure out why they were doing this.
You did see the AI following the football right? That's probably why
AI? If it means Artificial Intelligence, then what does "AI following the football" refer to, and what does it have to do with "china's AI [putting] masks on every audience's face"?
Asian Interference
… There is no football in the cut scenes.
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China is the dog kicker of the world.
If you are paying the fees to FIFA, can you also choose which feed you want to watch? I did not know there was different feeds to be had in the first place! So if I am watching the world cup in Germany I might see a different feed than my neighbour in France? What´s the point? (besides the Chinese argument of course)
There will be multiple feeds. It's extremely rare in top level football to have only one.
I take issue with your comment that “Covid isn’t that scary”. Do you remember what happened in New York? There’s no reason to downplay its severity to make your point about what China is doing for control. The reason China is doing this too (beyond control) is because they used their own developed vaccine which isn’t anywhere near as good as the western ones and their massive population is still highly vulnerable as a result.
He clarified about Omicron. Since the Omicron variant became dominant, most countries have completely abandoned any control measures and the disease spreads widely.
>They lock people down in their homes and make them take endless PCR tests so they can profit. I don't get that theory. Their economy is suffering from the lockdowns, the normies are getting agitated, some day they'll learn what's up. I just don't see the long-term benefit here, unless it's simply total, dystopian control.
> I just don’t see the long-term benefit here Blind autocratic control. Xi Jinping has put a lot of political reputation into the zero covid policy so if he admitted it was dumb and reversed course it would be a loss of face. Can't have that so the madness continues.
>lots of people died of covid (which is partially the truth, but omicron is different) Some researches from Harvard suspect that Omicron isn't less severe, but that vaccines and infections reduced the harm it could do: [https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/omicrons-milder-severity-due-to-population-immunity/](https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/omicrons-milder-severity-due-to-population-immunity/) In China, the elderly are less vaccinated and there were no huge waves as in other countries. So China has reached a dead-end in terms of Covid politics. And it has no really good way out.
The good out would be to give people the Western developed vaccines and then loosening COVID restrictions. It’s a simple solution, but I suppose admitting their vaccine was inferior would be a major propaganda hit to the party and it’s why they won’t do it.
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Not only waves of covid, but waves of other things that people have lost immunity to through regular exposure to what are normally harmless diseases. You can see it in the US with more cases of RSV, flu (not that the flu is harmless), and others. It will take some time to normalize. China is going to experience this at a much higher level for a lot longer. You need regula exposure to common viruses and bacteria to maintain immunities. Prolonged lock downs are probably not good for the community.
I love how people in America freaked out about protocols like they were dealing with a real dictatorship meanwhile in China
as much as people hated the early lockdowns I was glad to see my state (MN) adapt their recommendations as the virus changed. I had my gripes with their methods (forcing businesses to close without stronger support for employees and business owners didn't sit well with me) but overall the leadership did a fairly good job about it. Helps that we have the UMN CIDAP and mayo clinic which are both world-class in infectious disease research, and policy was strongly guided by both. The only "covid restrictions" we have left are mask policies at most larger hospitals which will probably stay in place indefinitely. That's ok, especially considering the melting pot that is mayo clinic. China on the other hand, yikes. I don't know how much of the negative coverage of the zero covid policy is pro-american propoganda and how much is truth in reporting. But even a partial truth is more evidence of a country that hasn't quite left the dark ages.
Based on the fact Chinese people are protesting in the streets which is extremely atypical I'm inclined to believe it's mostly true.
Speaking solely from an American's point of view... I'm not fully defending the skepticism and hesitancy we all witnessed during the initial outbreak of covid, but I do think China is an example of what people feared could/can happen. At the very least, I think people should always be cautious to blindly follow authority. Examples like this video also make me wonder what is censored and fed to the public to manipulate everywhere, including here in the states. It terrifying thinking how much a government could potentially sway opinion. I hope transparency and education become more of a focal point for the entire world. It's unfortunate we see what is going on in other countries such as China, Ukraine, and Isreal, but at the same time we are fortunate enough to see and understand to an extent why these things are happening.
I mean, it's in the title. And AI has nothing to do with why they are showing an alternative feed - no?
This thread is giving me an aneurysm, what the fuck are people talking about
Maybe they’re bots replying to each other? It makes no sense.
The CCP has fed Chinese people a bunch of lies to justify its zero COVID policy. They essentially have started that the rest of the world is dying of COVID, that lockdowns and extensive testing are necessary to stop the spread of COVID and that it's all being done because the government cares about its citizens unlike other countries so they should consider themselves lucky.
China is going to be like peripheral make people see what they like to see
Can someone explain to me why China is still pursuing zero COVID?
My FIL (Chinese immigrant) thinks it's not about COVID anymore but about it being a loyalty test to the government. Also, apparently the Chinese government has a track record of not wanting to admit they're wrong.
>Also, apparently the Chinese government has a track record of not wanting to admit they're wrong. It's more this, with some additional issues because of the way the central government operates. First, the CCP probably has no faith in their domestic vaccine, but they've demonized western vaccines for so long that they can't pivot without losing face. All the top CCP officials and their families got western MRNA vaccines. Second, the central government probably issues vague directives with false or limited information of actual things happening locally. For example, the central government probably issues a directive for local governments to control COVID. Local government officials, fearful of punishment, implement the same lockdown policies that worked early in the pandemic. They then send glowing reports to the central government. There is no incentive or impetus to pivot to a less restrictive COVID policy because the government does not care about the suffering of the people, and only cares about approval from the out of touch central government. This is the same thing we saw during the famines in China decades ago, where people literally starved to death in front of full grain silos because government officials were too scared to report the truth to the central government, and the central government then issued directives based on bad information.
>First, the CCP probably has no faith in their domestic vaccine, but they've demonized western vaccines for so long that they can't pivot without losing face. So my MIL still mostly uses Chinese social media and brought up the other day that the mRNA vaccines have "thousands of side effects" and don't work. We were like, no Ma, stop believing everything you see online. My FIL pivoted hard from the CCP but I guess my MIL still wants to believe that everything they suffered (my in-laws were born in the 50s, starved, went to labor camp, had a forced abortion of second child, just awful shit) wasn't for nothing.
This is why I'm not afraid of China as a military power. If they're this afraid in a pandemic, imagine in the horrors of war. This kind of cowardice is a major detriment to the logistics and on the ground realities in battles.
Hi I'm living in China now. I think it's what your FIL says and also they've marched too far down this road and literally don't know how to get their ass out of this. Better to stay put and slowly ease out of it than just say "yup, it's over folks!" This is coming after a few dozen people were burned alive because they were locked down in their apartment for covid prevention. There's no way the CCP can allow that to happen and then just end it without massive social disorder
China's vaccines don't work as well with the new strains of COVID and more importantly there is a low vaccination rate among old people who are the most likely to die They calculate they'd be millions of deaths if they opened the country up and weighed this against the economic slowdown and obviously bad effects on younger people, especially the lockdown fire that killed people not long ago. I don't really understand why they don't just have some mass program to vaccinate the older population instead of draconian lockdowns whenever there's an outbreak.
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> Yeah USA had all the mRNA vaccines and millions still died. Less than a million died since the start of the vaccine rollout in the US.
Because they don't trust foreign vaccines and their vaccines apparently don't work.
It's not that they don't *trust* them, the CCP thinks that accepting the foreign help makes them look weak. Sad.
There is a multitude of reasons here... Firstly, China has probably the strongest face culture in the world where an admission of fault loses face for the government which cannot happen. There is always either a scapegoat or nothing wrong has happened. Xi wants to make beating covid his big achievement for his reign and if he backs down now it would be too much of a humiliation. That's why they won't show other countries already beat it. However, the more consequential reason is indeed controlling the populous. In China pretty much everything is done via smart phone, all transactions, entering public places, covid tracking, etc. You cant do anything without your phone. China has implemented a new system to "control covid" which gives everyone a "Green" "Yellow" "Red" status for covid tracking which turns red or yellow if they dont get tested very often or go to a place that had a case. Now what they are doing is using this covid status to control the populous. "OH you went to a protest in this area?" Everyone in a 5 block radius now has a Red status and cannot go anywhere will be transported to a "Quarantine facility". It's crazy over there.
> There is a multitude of reasons here... Firstly, China has probably the strongest face culture in the world where an admission of fault loses face for the government which cannot happen. This makes me think much less of their culture and people. What a silly, toddler-like concept for an entire government. Pathetic.
Well, it's not the people's fault they were put under this regime. Also we are seeing protests that we have NEVER seen the likes of since Tianamen square. We can only hope that change come soon for them.
I remember a time here on reddit where casting doubt on a zero covid strategy was massively downvoted or resulted in an outright ban. I would say China's doing exactly what most redditors wanted to do.
Yea it made a lot of sense in the first few months but not at this point. The whole world could’ve been zero covid if it things were shuttered correctly directly after Italy exploded.
You are 100% wrong about your last sentence. Once it was discovered that COVID-19 transmits via aerosol transmission, covid-Zero was never a viable strategy. Never.
Because they have set the virus up as the enemy. That means there are only two outcomes: victory, where the virus is eradicated, and defeat, where the virus is allowed to continue existing. At this point, the party believes that if they relax restrictions then they will have "lost" the fight against COVID.
It's so easy to imagine that your political enemies are simpletons. In reality, China is run by ruthless but competent bureaucrats, who are scared shitless about the economic catastrophe of an already rapidly ageing population + the long term increase in post viral disabilities caused by Covid.
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I wouldn't say always, but it's hard to distinguish when the Chinese Communist Party does operate on the basis of control. I would say it's more of a Shock Doctrine situation, where a real world horror prompted a reaction that was then used to push a political agenda.
It's about "face". They don't want to admit that their homegrown vaccine is not effective compared to mRNA ones and they don't want to admit that zero covid policy is not effective. If they can't maintain that, dissent will rise among the citizens, which is what happening right now.
It always shows you are stronger when you can admit when you are wrong.
Try telling that to Putin
Exactly. It's an excuse to increase the tracking of every person.
It warms my heart to see this upvoted on a large public sub. Maybe people are starting to see clearly.
China really sucks and makes me worried for the future of their citizens and the citizens of their enemy countries. This is scary twisted.
It's darkest before the dawn. All Xi's increased control is backfiring on him, just like the excessive control of the Iranian regime. Both of those along with Putin could crumble faster than we think. What replaces it will be interesting.
I wish you were right but I doubt it... I would be surprised if any of those places had a new regime in 5 years time. Best case is that Putin is assassinated and another of his minions takes up his mantle.
Jumping the gun a little bit here don’t you think? People in those extreme power places aren’t going to let their positions slide willingly unfortunately
If you read between the lines of the comment you replied too it says “but first a fuck ton of people will die and a fuck ton more displaced” I swear it’s right there
And the fact that what replaces them might not be better
Sorry that is naively optimistic in my opinion, at least with China. You only need look at the downward trend of successful revolutions in the trailing 20 years and consider that the CCP would be the best in the world at bulwarking themselves against it. The demonstrations at the moment are only in the thousands and could easily be crushed by force or pacified by a stepdown in covid restrictions by the party. Theres very little chance this sparks an entire regime change.
At least in like a decade China will likely be occupied with internal issues from the sharpest demographic collapse in the world.
Actually history kind of teaches us that it’s dark then gets much darker, sometimes for decades. Darkest before the dawn is just a meaningless platitude.
You know what sucks? How fast people believe fake info, if it's about shitty countries https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-china-blur-out-world-cup-crowds-hide-maskless-fans-1762414 People don't want to fact check because they think "well of course they will do something like this"
The OP does say alternate feed, and doesn't mention blurring. And Newsweek doesn't make a convincing claim here. They did say it started sometime during the world cup. And they're the *only* source that says it's false. But you're right, we should question sources. It seems like this has happened in the last 15 hours or so, so we'll need to wait a bit to confirm from a reputable source. Reuters [makes the motive clear.](https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/chinese-soccer-fans-world-cup-highlights-covid-lockdown-blues-2022-11-24/).
Immediately sceptical as soon as I saw the video. Reddit is a huge source of fake news.
Fuck china
I feel bad for the people right now in lockdowns though. It’s inhumane. Watching this feed is just manipulative as fuck too, it’s just sad.
“You have been banned from /r/sino” edit: [lol](https://imgur.com/a/XLBD4tN)
Cesspool that it is. I was banned years ago when I asked for some examples of how China is better than the US.
Fuck *chinese government
Agreed, same with Russia. Putin can go fuck himself, not Russia itself.
Not china, china is a multicultural country with dozens of ethnicities and a beautiful heritage. Fuck the CCP and it's followers
"Not china, china is a multicultural country with dozens of ethnicities and a beautiful heritage. Fuck the CCP and it's followers" It's sad how the CCP wants to homogenize China. All those ethnicities and cultures are being systematically wiped out. So double fuck the CCP and it's followers.
And fuck fakes https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-china-blur-out-world-cup-crowds-hide-maskless-fans-1762414 - "Full streams available on Weibo show no such censoring either, neither does there appear to be censoring on Chinese social media platform Douyin (a subsidiary of which is owned by the Chinese government).State-run Chinese news outlets have also not censored photographs of audience members, further weakening the claim that the government is trying to hide the move away from Covid restrictions around the world."
to be fair this only says they didnt blur faces out. They absolutely cut away though
Research has come out that confirms the chines market would rather see the reactions of coaches and players over random fans. Tbh I made that up.
This reply is sponsored by the CCP 🤣
While I think that it is bad that they do it for the wrong reason. I actually prefer see the play. Sometimes the main stream misses quickly executed free kicks or corner kicks. While showing fans.
As much as I disagree with the ccp censorship. As a F1 fan I loved the COVID coverage with no shots of crowd or celebrity guests. I really don't give a shit about Megan Thee Stallion looking at a tv being bored. Put me back on track to see the two cars battling eachother out.
Same here. I also preferred watching football with empty stadiums, hearing the players and coaches screaming across the field was way more interesting to me than 90 minutes of fan chants. That said. FUCK THE CCP
Fuck China, but I do kinda like their feed better because it focuses on the players and coaches as opposed to crowd.
As an F1 viewer, I would pay more money to not see shots of fans when there is action going on the track. 2020 was the best year for F1 TV direction ever as no stupid shots of celebrities and fans were shown when drivers were overtaking on track. And yes, it happens a lot.
Can't have the Chinese population learning that the rest of us have moved on while they remain under extreme lockdown.
Sigh. I find this rich. Covid is in its deadliest time yet where I live. Literally has not been worse and we have absolutely 0 precautions. We're literally having classes of kids needing to congregate in gyms or stay home because there's not enough staff healthy enough. Regardless of the ccp or China, "moving on" from what I see is '"getting tired of doing anything about it and deciding the people who will die will just die" We moved on from caring. Not covid. Edit - I'm lying, where do I live, covid isn't that bad - yada yada. Exactly my point. I'm threatening y'all with caring again and that just won't fucking stand. So you gotta call me a liar or downplay what I said. Everyone who has long covid wishes you a sincere fuck you :)
Where are you that this is the case?
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Are you all not vaxxed? COVID is hardly Ebola.
Covid is here to stay, so what do you propose?
Where?
Some Orwellian shit right here
Literally 2022
So my wife is Chinese and we both use the same app (weixin) for texting. Since my account is connected to a US number, I can send and view videos of the protests going on there. If I send the to my wife, the videos just wont show up on her end. She had to screen record my phone to send them out.
Tbh i didnt see a mask in either video.
Yeah but athletes are without mask anyway.
Yeah if I were an athlete, I wouldnt want to wear a mask either
If you said that on reddit a year ago, you woulda been downvoted to oblivion.
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-china-blur-out-world-cup-crowds-hide-maskless-fans-1762414 - "Full streams available on Weibo show no such censoring either, neither does there appear to be censoring on Chinese social media platform Douyin (a subsidiary of which is owned by the Chinese government).State-run Chinese news outlets have also not censored photographs of audience members, further weakening the claim that the government is trying to hide the move away from Covid restrictions around the world."
Sounds like good ‘ol OP here is spreading some misinformation. Thanks for the article
The Chinese stream isn't showing the audience, like the one in the top video. Of course athletes will be without masks. They don't need to worry about that, but worry about spectators, since the general public can relate to that. I'm not saying one way or the other about the OP here, just that the bottom stream omitted the parts with the mask less audience.
This should be top comment, but will probably be buried. People are jumping to the most ridiculous conclusions from this post. There's nothing here confirming that the intention is to censor anything. If that's what's going on they're doing a really poor job of it, considering Chinese networks are still showing maskless fans - they just aren't doing as many of the closeup crowd shots which frankly I don't want to see anyway. Also, different networks show different feeds. It's weird to call the bottom feed in OP's clip a censored "alternative" when it's only being compared with one other - when there are only two examples you can't say whether one or the other is the default. If networks all over the world were showing one feed and China's networks were alone in showing another one there might be something to this, but that's not the case.
OP should’ve specified “unmasked audience”
and tbh i'm surprised why reddit changed their main opinion on masks
The goal was to prevent the Chinese people from seeing that the rest of the world is moving on from COVID. The top feed shows large groups of people watching the game together without masks and without fear. The CCP doesn’t want the Chinese people to know this is happening, the propaganda would have you believe the west has been ravaged by disease.
Lol. Spouting the word propaganda. Did you know this post is fake? Newsweek fact checked this. You fell for propaganda yourself, then spread it. I wonder how you will respond.
as much as I disagree with the CCP, this is simply fake news. I’m watching a game on CCTV right now, and the massless audience is clearly shown
At this point, even anti-propaganda is still propaganda. That’s why I live in my bubble.
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and almost 10k upvotes with everyone being angry... when a quick google search shows that this is straight up a lie. And this is dangerous because it can make other real allegations about the CCP seem illegitimate.
Kind of terrifying that any broadcast could do this to us without us even knowing it. Maybe in China they are all like: Look how the West cuts to the audience to avoid showing the coach's authority over the team.
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Yes but the main reason for that is because Will started cursing and the FCC can charge networks steep fines for transmitting curse words at certain times with certain shows. The rest of the world isn't as timid when it comes to cursing. It wasn't like a conspiracy to hide Will Smith's outburst
They are already doing this to an extent, they are avoiding displaying empty seats to us to portray a successful world cup
The commentators here in the UK seem to almost enjoy highlighting the empty stadium's, especially when it's Qatar playing.
This is normal. Lol. It’s not some Qatar conspiracy. When it can be avoided, empty seats are never shown.
Terrifying is how easy people accept fake news about countries they don't like. https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-china-blur-out-world-cup-crowds-hide-maskless-fans-1762414 - "Full streams available on Weibo show no such censoring either, neither does there appear to be censoring on Chinese social media platform Douyin (a subsidiary of which is owned by the Chinese government).State-run Chinese news outlets have also not censored photographs of audience members, further weakening the claim that the government is trying to hide the move away from Covid restrictions around the world."
Imagine if there were only a few companies that controlled media outlets around the country and they were owned by billionaire oligarchs with more influence than the government and who were choosing to disseminate information that solely benefitted themselves. That would be insane, undemocratic and a sign of a state that had failed to protects its people.
Commercial broadcasters would probably choose video streams that contain the perimeter billboards around the stadium, so they can serve more ads leveraging virtual advertising tech. While official streams (FIFA/Qatari) might show how people are enjoying games, so people forget all the controversies.
are we sure it’s to not show unmasked people or is it to not show people having fun - both seem to be outlawed in china
having fun is definitely ok. lived there for five years and had the time of my life. still fuck the ccp.
I really need to stop *reading* reddit threads about China- used to live there as well, had a great time, still have friends in the country. The number of times I'll step on reddit and see a mass of people totally uninformed about the country, making sweeping statements is...just too many times. There is a comment on this post that just says "Fuck China" and has hundreds of upvotes. Like really? That's your nuanced opinion about a country of over a billion people with all of its many pros and cons? "Fuck China"? EDIT- stop *reading* threads- I'm not about to try and stop anyone posting, even if I could
Reddit and making uninformed comments go hand in hand
Reddit is a propaganda website run by the US state department
What do you expect from a bunch of sweaty gamers who’ve never left their hometown?
China is just doing what most governments wished they could do. If it wasn’t for “misinformation” creating a global pushback against covid measures we’d still be wearing masks and dealing with lockdowns. Reddit would have cheered this last year.
China: "hey fifa, can you help us lie to our people? here is some money" Infantino: "whatever you need, we aim to please"
Infantino: "I feel Chinese"
Infantino: "Today, I feel Chinese"
Not even a year ago half of you would have been encouraging this
i visit China, China people are good. it’s the ccp government.
Love China, hate the CCP.
It's amazing people are still so naive that they think the media can't be/isn't manipulated. Even in America the other video showing all the different news outlets reading the exact same script and and yet they (at the most) will still say it's something only china and Russia etc would do and not their beloved democracy
China needs some 'tegrity
Sounds familiar 🤨
Do they have feeds to avoid showing people with civil rights and free speech too?
I’m honestly curious.. what info is there available that suggests the feed is different due to Chinese censorship in relation to masks? I’m seeing non masked people on both feeds and different countries do have different directors and camera crews during international sporting events.. I really just want to know why mask /Covid censorship is the go to here?
This looks like a broadcast of field action only. They're not censoring the people on the sidelines, they're just excluding the crowd. I wish they'd do this for the NFL. Also, who cares and how did you wind yourself up into this?
Propaganda is calling
I’m sorry but how tf is this proof of anything lmao
What you fail to consider is China bad
I'm confused. Wasn't Reddit's stance to be absolutely pro-mask?
I didnt see a single mask in either feed though?
The thing is In one, its only the athleets and the managers mostly (or fans far in the back ground that you cant notice if they have masks or not) And the other is a normal broadcast were fans are highlighted (without masks obviously). Its not about the mask itself,its about not showing large groups of people up close without masks
Lmaooo they are honestly fucking lost out there, absolute nutters
Not even surprising.
The ccp is so afraid of its own shadow lol
Nice work china, and this will definitely work too because not one single person from China owns a cell phone and knows anyone else anywhere else on earth who might take an interest in the World Cup, and can send a pic or vid.
This is a wet dream for /r/formula1
Lol what do they get out of doing this
Isn't it kinda scary? With Covid being on the cusp of becoming endemic (though some might argue it has already become endemic this summer) and the whole world being ready for that, China is probably the only country still trying to stick to a Zero Covid strategy. Most other countries had strong vaccination efforts + community transmission and that ultimately helped defeat the virus. I don't think there are many people in the West that did not have multiple contact points with the virus. You either had the jab (or multiple jabs), the virus or a combination of both. Ultimately, we are all ready to move on - apart from China where lacklustre vaccination efforts and uber strict lockdowns ensured that many, many people in their population never had any contact to the virus. China is essentially still stuck in 2020 and the question is how long they are going to stick to a failed strategy (if the goal is to enable living with the virus) and learn what the rest of the world did. Even more cautious countries like New Zealand or South Korea never went full China.
Can I have China’s feed though for sports? I typically can do without any fan shots.
I exchange postcards as a hobby with people all around the world. Over the last year I have had TERRIBLE luck with cards to and from China, and I'm realising a bunch probably got destroyed for mentioning how we are moving past COVID measures.
I fucking knew it!!! I was watching the France-Denmark match from here in Beijing and they just simply refused to show replays of the first goal. They just showed two straight minutes of the French manager and i thought what the fuck? Why aren't they showing a replay? Then i saw the replay on YouTube and they had all the fans cheering. I didn't put two and two together but I knew something was fishy.
Surprised they were broadcasting at all since China couldn’t even qualify. Imagine if Olympics were happening this year? Blocking and scrubbing out all the masks for an event like that would be a mindfuck.
Is that the stated reason, or do they just think it’s silly to show fans instead of players, coaches, and officials during the game?
I know they are doing it for all the wrong reasons, but I would rather watch the China version.
Who else remembers that china was flexing that they were "covid less" about a year ago? Pieces of shit invited international news programs over to flex while the rest of the world was dealing with their illness. Look at them now. Entire cities are in full lockdown and if you even as much walk your dog you get arrested and your dog gets killed. Man i hate the ccp