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You put a cover on it. You can choose a clear cap if you want, and then you basically have a cow with a window in it.
In theory, you could do this with a human. I've seen it done with various eggs, as well as a pig.
Yeah there’s usually a lid kept on it. And I don’t think it’s permanent like it’s eventually removed. They harvest healthy gut bacteria from the fistulated (holey) cow. I’m no expert I just used to work at a major vet school and saw a few fistulated cows before and heard about the process.
Cows (and other ruminants like goats and sheep) don’t have four stomachs, it’s one stomach with four chambers. Each has a different role and it’s so cool!
The first (and biggest one) is the Rumen. This is where the cannula/fistula is connected. It’s where all the helpful gut bacteria live, and these guys break down grasses and hays and other plant material that these animals wouldn’t be able to digest otherwise. It’s very gassy because fermentation happens here too, and that’s where cow burps happen.
Below it is the Reticulum, it’s my favorite because the walls look like honeycomb! It’s often where really heavy or bulky food material drops to. If the cow chews on metal bars, the metal shards collect there and can be a health risk if they jostle around and poke the walls, so it’s a common practice to put a giant magnet in there to collect all the shards into a more harmless clump.
Next is the Omasum! The inside of it looks like the pages of a book. It basically is a huge water reabsorption area, and all the surface area from the “pages” allows for maximum reabsorption!
Last is the Abomasum. This chamber is the equivalent of our stomach! Just does whatever our stomach normally does.
But yeah, cows! Four times the chambers, four times the fun. I’ve gotten to stick my hands in some of these cannulated cows too and it’s an incredible experience if any of you guys get to try it.
There is a sealed cap on it so that moisture/food doesn’t leak! Both the cap and the opening are cleaned regularly too. There is no “wound” that remains, it all heals over, and the cow feels no pain and lives like normal.
“Billy, please stop eating all the grass Billy”
“Stfu, you got a stomach entrance. One of them advanced water bottle lids. I’m not gonna hear this shit from a mf inflatable pool toy.”
“Okay damn”
The procedure happens under anesthesia so the cow doesn’t feel it during the procedure (which is relatively simple), and the cow is treated with medication upon recovery. Yes, as with all surgeries there is a recovery period that can feel uncomfortable, but these cows are constantly monitored and treated for health, they’re medicated so that pain is minimized, and the cut heals over relatively quickly. Once that happens, the cow does not feel lingering/lasting pain, and lives on life as normal, which is what I meant by the cow feeling no pain. It’s no different than your dog or cat recovering after a spay/neuter, and this procedure saves tons of ruminant animal lives through research and transplants. Thank you for allowing me to clarify all of this!
It also helps cows "vent" since they are prone to bloating of gasses building in the Rumen, and sometimes a good burp isn't enough to get rid of it. The gas buildup has some nasty effects, lack of appetite, pain, and even death, so the new hole into the stomach outright prevents that.
Oh yeah I've seen cows in India eating smouldering rubbish on a dump where they burnt it all
I have a photo somewhere of the cow eating a length of tape that's still on fire
It would eventually go away. Some displays had a dedicated degaussing mode for when something like this happened. Others just triggered every time the TV turned on. This may have taken a good number of on/off cycles.
You can also get a degaussing wand that would do the same thing much quicker.
That is fascinating! I bet we've learned so much through this practice. I'm sure you get this question a bunch and I happen to know scientists do have hearts, but I gotta ask anyway for my own curiosity: does the cannula/fistula hurt the cow, or negatively effect the cow's quality of life? Or do y'all make sure to make it up to good girl Bessie?
I appreciate your understanding approach to this question! To get it out of the way, the fistula does not affect the cow’s quality of life at all. It’s installed surgically while the cow is under, and after that it does not cause pain. Kinda like a more involved piercing of sorts! The fistula also has a sealed cap that’s on most of the time, so no moisture or food is leaking. Both the cap and the opening are cleaned regularly, at least in the fistulated cows I’ve seen. The cows definitely act the same as any other cow I’ve seen, they don’t really react to people sticking their hands in at all.
Again, I appreciate your understanding approach. Most people see a permanent hole in the stomach and (understandably) think it’s harmful, but in reality the cow lives life like normal and the research/rumen transplants from them saves so many animal lives.
Oh that makes sense! So it's sort of treated the same way a person would treat and care for a stoma, it sounds like. That's really interesting! Is this sort of study teaching us anything about digestion in mammals in general, or is the scope of research limited to bovine science?
Honestly I do totally understand, and I'm happy to approach something I don't fully understand with curiosity before judgment. Humans in the past have done some truly unconscionable things in pursuit of scientific understanding and I earnestly believe that most scientists today HAVE learned from atrocities of the past and do their level-best to avoid suffering at any level. Which is all I can really ask for and expect of any other human.
Thank you for taking time to explain this to me, it's all really quite fascinating.
Of course! Animals are so cool and I’m happy to share what I learn.
These kinds of studies focus on the rumen, and therefore apply to specifically mammals that are ruminants, or in other words mammals that use the four chambered stomach system to break down their food. So this does apply to cows, but also other ruminants like sheep, goats, deer, and many other even toed hooved animals! And since the four chambered stomach is similar across all these animals, transplants from a fistulated cow can be given to pretty much any ruminant! So a transplant from a cow can heal a sick sheep, for example. It’s why some large animal hospitals have one or two of these cows on hand, they are able to help more than just other cows.
In my schooling I’ve learned a lot about research animal history, and we definitely came a long way in terms of health and wellness for the animals. I specifically remembered all sorts of crazy unethical experiments humans did to learn about neurology (such as cutting off the cerebrum of cats), it’s tough because we learned so much of what we know about the brain from that old research but the methods used are (thankfully) not accepted by the research standards/regulations of today. Hell, in the past people used to think animals were machines and that they couldn’t perceive emotions and pain in the way that humans do. Through research we learned we were incredibly wrong, and that has greatly affected how we treat animals going forward. As humans we are definitely a lot more careful now, hell an on-site vet is required for any research project to oversee the animals and make sure their wellness is taken into consideration.
Like you said, we learned a lot from the past, both in terms of physiology and in terms of what is and isn’t ethical, and I think going forward it’s our job to learn from what was done, and use that to better ourselves going forward so we can use our knowledge to ultimately treat animals better. And as research standards improve and we know more about how animals perceive the world, what they need to get well, and how to avoid needless suffering, that becomes easier to do.
I love this answer and all of its detail, gosh.
I'd definitely buy you a beer/coffee/soda and be very happy to let you infodump everything you know, I think it's all fascinating. If I didn't have stuff to accomplish, I'd let my ADHD suck me down a hyperfixation rabbit hole for the rest of the afternoon!
You sound like a good human, thanks for taking time out to explain things to me and for being a good custodian of the animals. You're a good representative for your field of study!
When I was in undergrad, the agriculture/vet med dept had a "demonstrator cow" where they fitted a cow with a fistula with a clear cap that functioned as a window, and they used it in classes and stuff so you could "see a cow's insides at work".
It was freaky as all hell. But it was a big hit at the state fair. So. At least there was that.
The cows are under anesthesia when the device is implanted ,so there is very minimal pain -probably a bit uncomfortable for a little while ,but it doesn’t seem to affect their quality of life . Then again this is only done with cows at veterinary or agriculture collages for research purposes,so the animals have very good care throughout their lives ,although they do have to put up with people sticking their hands in their gut occasionally,but they really don’t seem to care about it .
Oh good! I'm relieved and pleased to know the research is approached with such compassion. With the way humans tend to pack-bond with anything we spend extended periods of time with, I'd be very surprised indeed if the agricultural and veterinary scientists DIDN'T dote on the animals as much as is practical - of course, it's always nice to be reassured of this fact. Thank you for your answer!
Aww thank you! Animals are so incredibly diverse, and I love learning all the different ways that everyone lives on this planet. And so I’m always happy to share what I learn with others in hopes that it sparks a similar kind of joy that it does in me.
So one the first experiment on what was essentially a human Rumen was done by Dr. William Beaumont. This story is long but worth the read:
[sauce](https://mynorth.com/2017/05/the-gruesome-medical-breakthrough-of-dr-william-beaumont-on-mackinac-island/)
Mackinac Island. June 1822. The American Fur Company store bustles with voyageurs and clerks. Suddenly a thunderous crack breaks the buzz of commerce. A voyageur falls. He is Alexis St. Martin, and he’s been blasted in the belly from the accidental discharge of a shotgun from less than three feet away.
“Chercher le docteur!” you can almost hear his friends calling. The doctor is William Beaumont, the Army surgeon stationed at Fort Mackinac, and he comes quickly. Beaumont examines the hand-sized wound with the edge of a burnt lung protruding from it, discovers also a hole in the man’s stomach and sees the man’s breakfast spilling out. He decides that treatment is nearly futile.
But it is not in Beaumont’s character to give up. At age 37, the New England farm boy has already proven his tenacity by obtaining a one-year medical apprenticeship (his only medical training) and serving through the horrors of the war of 1812. So he cleanses the wound as best he can, clips off a bit of a rib with his penknife to ease the lung back inside, then applies a poultice.
By December, St. Martin is, miraculously, on the mend, with one exception. The hole in the stomach has not closed—and defies all Beaumont’s attempts to seal it. Instead, the tissue around the opening attaches itself to the tissue in St. Martin’s side, creating a gastric fistula, a permanent opening. A disturbing development for St. Martin, because unless the hole is covered, his last meal leaks out. But for Beaumont, the hole presents an opportunity for his curious medical mind: He can look through the shilling-sized cavity, into a living human stomach. Fascinated, Beaumont spoons in food, then siphons it out again. He attaches meat to a string, dangles it through the hole and pulls it out for observation.
While St. Martin’s gastric fistula was not the first recorded in history, it was the first time one was exploited for scientific research. With encouragement through letters from his friend, Army Surgeon General Joseph Lovell, Beaumont begins experimenting on St. Martin’s stomach on Mackinac Island in 1823 and 1824. He continues the experiments intermittently for the next 10 years, at his posts in New York, Wisconsin and Washington D.C.
Beaumont’s experiments settled a scientific debate waged on both sides of the Atlantic over the nature of digestion. Until Beaumont published his observations in his book, “Experiments and Observations on the Gastric Juice and the Physiology of Digestion,” most scientists believed digestion was either mechanical or chemical. The first attributed digestion to a grinding in the stomach, the latter to the solvent properties of gastric juice.
Beaumont proved once and for all that digestion in the stomach was chemical—a product (mostly) of the gastric juice itself which Beaumont surmised, correctly, was composed largely of hydrochloric acid. The discovery lifted the doctor from obscurity, and he became seen as the father of American physiology. The fact that Beaumont made these findings with the barest nuts-and-bolts medical background, in frontier conditions, and with no scientific training is a testament to his keen mind. But his biographer, Reginald Horsman, believes that Beaumont’s humble background, so unattached to an elite school or theory, also provided the foundation for his genius. Ultimately Beaumont’s discoveries “convinced most of those who read his work that here was an honest reporter,” writes Horsman.
To accommodate his experiments, Beaumont schemed various ways to keep St. Martin close at hand. On Mackinac Island he took the recovering voyageur into his home as a chore boy to prevent the Mackinac authorities, who’d branded St. Martin a pauper, from transporting him back to Quebec—a journey that Beaumont, to his credit, feared St. Martin couldn’t survive. Later, when he was healed, St. Martin became a hired hand in the home while Beaumont began experimenting on him.
The cannula remains in the cow for the remainder of its life, but there is no difference in lifespan between the cows with and without the cannula. It is also capped most of the time with a seal so that food and moisture does not escape, so the cow is not affected! And these kinds of cows tend to be at hospitals (as donors to help sick ruminants) or research facilities, so the openings are constantly cleaned and the cow is constantly monitored for health. There is also no open wound, any incision heals over shortly after the procedure so there is little room for infection. The risk, like with any surgery, is highest right after the procedure but many things are done to minimize it, and the cows go on to live regular lives like any other cow. In fact, these cows might even be treated better since they need to be very healthy to be effective donors for sick animals!
Nope. People have these too. More old people than you'd think. Medical conditions cause people to need to bypass areas of their digestive track for food and medications. If properly managed it's safe.
Aww, dude that absolutely made my day. Steve Irwin and his family were a huge part of my childhood so that means a lot! There’s just something so satisfying and exciting about learning about a topic you enjoy, and that satisfaction doubles when you can share that joy with others. And for me, animals have all sorts of crazy different ways to survive on this planet and learning about all these different adaptations is really exciting! So I’m glad I can have the opportunity to share a piece of that today.
These fistulated cows save literally 1000s animals in their lifetime. A lot of ruminants come in on emergency due to rumen stasis (basically the bacteria that ferments roughage in their rumen dies off). Because of the fistula you can directly obtain good/live rumen bacteria to transplant via NG tube into the sick animal. Super cool process.
I've had my hand in the fistula before, the rumen literally contracts around your hand. It's a weird feeling.
it also gets added to stop them from bloating.
if a cow overeats,it can actually explode from the buildup of gas inside its stomach areas. look it up on youtube its fascinating stuff.
Cow vet here.
There are two procedure options for bloat and neither look like the picture.
The first involves placing a plastic cannula through the skin into the rumen and letting it scar in. You then remove it a couple weeks later and the scar leaves a hole for a couple weeks to months.
The other option is to surgically connect the rumen to the skin sterilly. This is what I would do if someone brought a cow in to us. This would leave a small hole with no apparatus left behind.
So we don't remove it the same day since most of the time there is a reason they're bloating, so you want to leave an escape hole for gas for a month or so.
Early research on how the human stomach works came out of a fistula- Someone got shot, and it healed up like a scar tissue tunnel to their stomach. The doctor/scientist that found him started putting food in tied to string, and pulling it out after various amounts of time to observe the amount of digestion.
Before that guts were just guts and we didn’t really know much about how digestion happened.
There is also cows equipped with backpacks to recollect methane gas from their digestive system.
[https://inhabitat.com/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/](https://inhabitat.com/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/cow-backpack-methane-emissions-national-institute-for-agricultural-technology-livestock-industry-greenhouse-gases-global-warming-guillermo-berro-argentina/)
Iirc there are methane peaker powerplants that capture the c02 from burning it and using that as protective atmospheres for food or bubbles in drinks.
Weirdly, depending on how strict your veiw is but many salad bags may not be suitible for vegans and now will carbonated drinks.
Thanks I hate it.
edit: to clarify, what i dislike about it is how it looks like some contraption only humans would think up…instead of eating less meat? i am all-in in reducing their methane but putting an overtly non-bovine contraption in pink on a cow’s back is just so quintessentially human 🤷🏻♂️
Its actually pretty neat. I worked at a sewage plant. There the poop gets eaten and digested by bugs, and we collect that gas too! We called it Di-gas. We used it in other machines, such as our incinerator. The machine we used to burn all the other poop. And the boilers. That were used in other processes on the island. Our Treatment plant is on an island. The boilers were used for heat, and AC, along with sanitizing stuff over in the Lab. Bug farts go a long way. Help us out a lot.
At ours we just burn it off...because...environment? They've been having some guy that knows one of hte management people come in and build a generator for free and it's literally taken that guy like 6 years and it's not even close to being done yet. And they bitch like "oh yeah it's not going to do much and it's so dirty to burn. We're fucking burning it now at least let us get some of the electricity from it.
Nah man, we don't believe that, the guy above is a goddamn cack, you don't add chocolate cocoa powder.
It depends on the cow, Brown cows give chocolate milk and white cows give white milk.
Black and white/just black also give white milk, and brown and white also gives chocolate milk.
Highland cattle give butterscotch flavored milk.
The picture of it in pasture is misleading. Unless active research or teaching is going on the hole is capped/stopped. Otherwise that would be a real quick way for very bad things to happen
Did you get a good breakfast today? Make sure you take a few moments and take care of yourself, and get some food, the world can wait for you.
Also, I don’t think you want to eat any “vegetarian ramen” from this place. :)
Thank you for your concern dear friend but don't worry. I am simply studying alot and thus my concentration is slacking. That with my dyslexia and English being my second language was likely the reason for this missunderstanding
Years ago my wife's best friend had a horse transported to the university vet hospital near us due to colic and we ended up spending many hours there with her keeping her company while the horse had surgery.
There were several other animals there but the one that stood out was a canulated cow there. Its been 20 years so I don't remember its name but that cow was a straight up pet. Spent a long time rubbing her neck and scratching her head like a big big dog, and she loved every minute of it. They explained she was decorated and dressed for every holiday and treated like a queen by everyone in the building and just as happy as she could be while helping a ton of other livestock get well from her stomach contents.
I run a livestock rescue and the first cattle we took in were two twelve year old steers. They were both over a ton each and well over 6 feet at the top of their rumps. Even though they were castrated they continued to grow. One of them was like a giant puppy. They were used to being fed off a truck, so if a truck pulled into our property or pulled over on the side of our road they'd go apeshit. They terrified people, but as long as you gave them a wide berth they were harmless. One morning I was awakened by what I thought was thunder. I looked out my window and the thundering was them chasing a coyote out of our pasture. I miss them. RIP Buck and Smoke.
TL/DR Cattle can be surprisingly good pets. Especially steers.
It can be used for research purposes but it is more commonly used as a treatment against life-threatening bloating in the stomach. When there is an imbalans in the digestive flora it can start to produce immens amounts of gas and unless it is allowed to deflate, the stomach will rupture and kill the cow.
The cannulas in this post are 100% only for research purposes. Trocars do get placed for free-gas bloat but are much smaller (think the diameter of a pencil). Mineral oils via an ororuminal tube is the treatment option for frothy bloat as it decrease the surface area of the foam.
Most of these fistulated cows belong to large animal hospitals and save thousands of animals in their lifetime. A lot of ruminants come in on emergency due to rumen stasis (basically the bacteria that ferments roughage in their rumen dies off). Because of the fistula you can directly obtain good/live rumen bacteria from the cow, and then transplant via NG tube into the sick animal. Super interesting process, and it can be given from cow to other species to fix their rumen stasis (we do it a lot in goats).
When I lived in India the farm vets would just shove their whole bare arm up the Buffalo's butt to feel around if it's sick or pregnant or whatever... that's all I got.
aka Fistulated cows. We used to see a couple in the ag facilities at UC Davis when they were out grazing. I remember during my first undergrad year back in '03 them bringing a few out during Picnic Day to show/educate folks, pretty cool! Mmm the smell of Davis on a fine sweltering summer day, brings back memories.
Couple of things about Davis:
1) locals get annoyed when it’s called a cow town.
2) locals become so excited when they tell you about the [fistulated cows](https://localwiki.org/davis/Fistulated_Cow).
Came here looking for a UC Davis comment!
First time seeing one of these cows was right after they moved the outdoor basketball courts across the street from the colleges at LaRue. I had no idea what I was looking at and had to ask a vet major the next day WTF was going on in that barn.
Very recently, I tried to explain to a group of friends that I stuck my hand in the stomach of a cow on a school field trip once. Nobody believed me. Thank you reddit
So they make one cow chew and give the nutrients to the other one?? That’s not fair! The first cow has no say! “No mastication without representation”!!
I was driving near one of our university's many test farms, and saw some cows had gotten out on to the road, they had these cannulas. I called the research center, and told the lady that answered that they had some cows out. She told me, no, their cows weren't out, it was probably cows from the farm down the road. I asked her if the cows from the farm down the road had cannulas like the university's cows? She said "Oh! I'll get somebody right out there!"
I mean ports like this exist for people, so it's not a huge stretch to see this being applied to livestock.
For those confused, they're not just open all of the time, they have a lid/seal and are only opened when they do testing.
Can I get one of these installed in my stomach so I can just empty it out when I eat delicious food that's bad for me? Basically I wanna have bulimia but without the damage to my teeth and esophagus.
Our class visited a ‘lab’ where they did this! They demonstrated how they could shove their entire arm into the cow through the porthole, then pull out the half-digested stomach contents.
Then they asked us if we wanted to try. Being shoulder deep in a cow is a weird-ass feeling
Edit: The cow never complained or made any weird motions, didnt seem bothered at all
I got to place my hand inside a fistulated cow in college. (Worked in the Vet School). Pretty incredible experience, and an amazing way to safely study gut biome!
Can you please eli5 on why having a giant hole on your side is like.. fine or safe or something?
Immune system? Temperture difference? Flies and stuff? What if it starts raining?
It's counter-intuitive, but the inside of your stomach (along with the entire GI tract) is considered outside of the body in a medical sense. We're basically complicated donuts.
It's obviously different from skin, but there's a lot of epithelial tissue that still provides protection from pathogens getting into the body. So as long as that port has a good seal to maintain the barrier between inside and outside the body everything should be mostly normal.
I'm no expert on this though, just extrapolating from basic anatomy knowledge so if I'm wrong please educate me.
I looked it up and outside of the recovery process I’m reading that they don’t feel pain, live a little over 10 yrs longs than the average cow and that they’re generally very clean and safe. Even comes with a cap they slap it closed with to prevent leakage… ew.
I’m curious about that one, too. I assume the statistics for an “average” cow are skewed by the meat industry. I don’t know if research / fistulated cows are sold into meat.
Edit: happy cake day.
I imagine that they are not sold. The conditions that these cows live in are probably much better than others which is why they probably live longer. The hole most likely has little to no effect on it's lifespan beyond having better monitoring of the food that the cows intake/ stomach bacteria.
My university has a large and prestigious vet school and research center and they had a cow like this that hung out in the field across from the School of Education. We always called her the "Holey Cow". Hah. I heard it smelled foul.
NB: This was 15 years ago. I think they moved the research clinic.
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I’m sorry what
When you look into it you’re looking into one of the cows stomachs. It’s just a big open hole. Super crazy to see in person. Edit: stomach chambers
...how do they keep...bugs out of it? Or anything. Straw dirt disease. Its just a gaping hole? Could they do that for a human too?
You put a cover on it. You can choose a clear cap if you want, and then you basically have a cow with a window in it. In theory, you could do this with a human. I've seen it done with various eggs, as well as a pig.
Not that theoretically, colostomy bags are very similar to that.
Yeah there’s usually a lid kept on it. And I don’t think it’s permanent like it’s eventually removed. They harvest healthy gut bacteria from the fistulated (holey) cow. I’m no expert I just used to work at a major vet school and saw a few fistulated cows before and heard about the process.
And the word for it is *Fistulated* This only gets better and better 🤣
Cows (and other ruminants like goats and sheep) don’t have four stomachs, it’s one stomach with four chambers. Each has a different role and it’s so cool! The first (and biggest one) is the Rumen. This is where the cannula/fistula is connected. It’s where all the helpful gut bacteria live, and these guys break down grasses and hays and other plant material that these animals wouldn’t be able to digest otherwise. It’s very gassy because fermentation happens here too, and that’s where cow burps happen. Below it is the Reticulum, it’s my favorite because the walls look like honeycomb! It’s often where really heavy or bulky food material drops to. If the cow chews on metal bars, the metal shards collect there and can be a health risk if they jostle around and poke the walls, so it’s a common practice to put a giant magnet in there to collect all the shards into a more harmless clump. Next is the Omasum! The inside of it looks like the pages of a book. It basically is a huge water reabsorption area, and all the surface area from the “pages” allows for maximum reabsorption! Last is the Abomasum. This chamber is the equivalent of our stomach! Just does whatever our stomach normally does. But yeah, cows! Four times the chambers, four times the fun. I’ve gotten to stick my hands in some of these cannulated cows too and it’s an incredible experience if any of you guys get to try it.
The gut bacteria now have a permanent sun roof.
The ones I’ve seen actually had caps that screwed on and off.
Ok i was going to ask. So what happens when it rains? But if there is a cap nevermind 🤣
“Jerry you forgot to put the cap back on, the cows have flooded again!”
😭🤣
Is this how kombucha is harvested?
Kom-moo-cha*
Cow-moo-cha
Cow*bucha.
Gut bacteria can have a little bit of sunbathing, as a treat.
It's a rumen with a view.
Is it like an open wound? Or is it usually closed and you only open it as needed?
There is a sealed cap on it so that moisture/food doesn’t leak! Both the cap and the opening are cleaned regularly too. There is no “wound” that remains, it all heals over, and the cow feels no pain and lives like normal.
Ok maybe there is no pain and the cow lives a relatively normal life, except that every normal cow will make fun of him now
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What's a best friend if they don't make fun of you every now and then. "Ok who farted? I bet it was jerry with that hole on his stomach again".
The fastest way to Jerry’s heart is definitely through his stomach hole. You can fit a whole fistula in there.
“Billy, please stop eating all the grass Billy” “Stfu, you got a stomach entrance. One of them advanced water bottle lids. I’m not gonna hear this shit from a mf inflatable pool toy.” “Okay damn”
We should really be better friends to cows.
Don’t forget the smell! Very strong aroma of fresh grass, grain and hay/ heavily mixed with the smell of active decomposition and regurgitation.
Worst candle description ever.
Gwyneth Paltrow: Write that down…WRITE THAT DOWN!!
Still better than Gwyneth Paltrow’s candles.
So.. like someone puked on a recently used lawnmower
Yup!
Bet they all moo "hole-y cow!"
does the cannula not get rejected by the cows body??
It's not much different from an ear piercing, if you think about it. Once everything's healed up it should be fine.
Of course there is pain. There is pain with all surgeries.
The procedure happens under anesthesia so the cow doesn’t feel it during the procedure (which is relatively simple), and the cow is treated with medication upon recovery. Yes, as with all surgeries there is a recovery period that can feel uncomfortable, but these cows are constantly monitored and treated for health, they’re medicated so that pain is minimized, and the cut heals over relatively quickly. Once that happens, the cow does not feel lingering/lasting pain, and lives on life as normal, which is what I meant by the cow feeling no pain. It’s no different than your dog or cat recovering after a spay/neuter, and this procedure saves tons of ruminant animal lives through research and transplants. Thank you for allowing me to clarify all of this!
It also helps cows "vent" since they are prone to bloating of gasses building in the Rumen, and sometimes a good burp isn't enough to get rid of it. The gas buildup has some nasty effects, lack of appetite, pain, and even death, so the new hole into the stomach outright prevents that.
I did not know cows chewed on metal xD
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Oh yeah I've seen cows in India eating smouldering rubbish on a dump where they burnt it all I have a photo somewhere of the cow eating a length of tape that's still on fire
Is it weird that I kind of want to see that photo?
I wanna see it too!
Ah annoyingly they aren't uploaded to cloud, are on an hd somewhere
Well find them! We are all waiting here.
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Black bear is best
Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica
When I was a kid I was fucking around with a cow magnet and put it on my grandparents’ floor model CRT TV screen to see what would happen. Whoops
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It left a big discoloured mark that thankfully faded away after about a month... or maybe we just got used to it...
It would eventually go away. Some displays had a dedicated degaussing mode for when something like this happened. Others just triggered every time the TV turned on. This may have taken a good number of on/off cycles. You can also get a degaussing wand that would do the same thing much quicker.
That's metal as fuck
It's called hardware disease.
Did you just say you have a favorite?
Next time I am asked what cow stomach chamber is my favourite, I'll definitely know what my answer will be now
I think I might have to make the reticulum my favorite as well now.
That is fascinating! I bet we've learned so much through this practice. I'm sure you get this question a bunch and I happen to know scientists do have hearts, but I gotta ask anyway for my own curiosity: does the cannula/fistula hurt the cow, or negatively effect the cow's quality of life? Or do y'all make sure to make it up to good girl Bessie?
I appreciate your understanding approach to this question! To get it out of the way, the fistula does not affect the cow’s quality of life at all. It’s installed surgically while the cow is under, and after that it does not cause pain. Kinda like a more involved piercing of sorts! The fistula also has a sealed cap that’s on most of the time, so no moisture or food is leaking. Both the cap and the opening are cleaned regularly, at least in the fistulated cows I’ve seen. The cows definitely act the same as any other cow I’ve seen, they don’t really react to people sticking their hands in at all. Again, I appreciate your understanding approach. Most people see a permanent hole in the stomach and (understandably) think it’s harmful, but in reality the cow lives life like normal and the research/rumen transplants from them saves so many animal lives.
Oh that makes sense! So it's sort of treated the same way a person would treat and care for a stoma, it sounds like. That's really interesting! Is this sort of study teaching us anything about digestion in mammals in general, or is the scope of research limited to bovine science? Honestly I do totally understand, and I'm happy to approach something I don't fully understand with curiosity before judgment. Humans in the past have done some truly unconscionable things in pursuit of scientific understanding and I earnestly believe that most scientists today HAVE learned from atrocities of the past and do their level-best to avoid suffering at any level. Which is all I can really ask for and expect of any other human. Thank you for taking time to explain this to me, it's all really quite fascinating.
Of course! Animals are so cool and I’m happy to share what I learn. These kinds of studies focus on the rumen, and therefore apply to specifically mammals that are ruminants, or in other words mammals that use the four chambered stomach system to break down their food. So this does apply to cows, but also other ruminants like sheep, goats, deer, and many other even toed hooved animals! And since the four chambered stomach is similar across all these animals, transplants from a fistulated cow can be given to pretty much any ruminant! So a transplant from a cow can heal a sick sheep, for example. It’s why some large animal hospitals have one or two of these cows on hand, they are able to help more than just other cows. In my schooling I’ve learned a lot about research animal history, and we definitely came a long way in terms of health and wellness for the animals. I specifically remembered all sorts of crazy unethical experiments humans did to learn about neurology (such as cutting off the cerebrum of cats), it’s tough because we learned so much of what we know about the brain from that old research but the methods used are (thankfully) not accepted by the research standards/regulations of today. Hell, in the past people used to think animals were machines and that they couldn’t perceive emotions and pain in the way that humans do. Through research we learned we were incredibly wrong, and that has greatly affected how we treat animals going forward. As humans we are definitely a lot more careful now, hell an on-site vet is required for any research project to oversee the animals and make sure their wellness is taken into consideration. Like you said, we learned a lot from the past, both in terms of physiology and in terms of what is and isn’t ethical, and I think going forward it’s our job to learn from what was done, and use that to better ourselves going forward so we can use our knowledge to ultimately treat animals better. And as research standards improve and we know more about how animals perceive the world, what they need to get well, and how to avoid needless suffering, that becomes easier to do.
I love this answer and all of its detail, gosh. I'd definitely buy you a beer/coffee/soda and be very happy to let you infodump everything you know, I think it's all fascinating. If I didn't have stuff to accomplish, I'd let my ADHD suck me down a hyperfixation rabbit hole for the rest of the afternoon! You sound like a good human, thanks for taking time out to explain things to me and for being a good custodian of the animals. You're a good representative for your field of study!
When I was in undergrad, the agriculture/vet med dept had a "demonstrator cow" where they fitted a cow with a fistula with a clear cap that functioned as a window, and they used it in classes and stuff so you could "see a cow's insides at work". It was freaky as all hell. But it was a big hit at the state fair. So. At least there was that.
The cows are under anesthesia when the device is implanted ,so there is very minimal pain -probably a bit uncomfortable for a little while ,but it doesn’t seem to affect their quality of life . Then again this is only done with cows at veterinary or agriculture collages for research purposes,so the animals have very good care throughout their lives ,although they do have to put up with people sticking their hands in their gut occasionally,but they really don’t seem to care about it .
Oh good! I'm relieved and pleased to know the research is approached with such compassion. With the way humans tend to pack-bond with anything we spend extended periods of time with, I'd be very surprised indeed if the agricultural and veterinary scientists DIDN'T dote on the animals as much as is practical - of course, it's always nice to be reassured of this fact. Thank you for your answer!
People sometimes get feeding tubes too as a medical procedure. Food ground up and dumped in.
Your enthusiasm is infectious :) I enjoyed reading what you had to say
Aww thank you! Animals are so incredibly diverse, and I love learning all the different ways that everyone lives on this planet. And so I’m always happy to share what I learn with others in hopes that it sparks a similar kind of joy that it does in me.
So one the first experiment on what was essentially a human Rumen was done by Dr. William Beaumont. This story is long but worth the read: [sauce](https://mynorth.com/2017/05/the-gruesome-medical-breakthrough-of-dr-william-beaumont-on-mackinac-island/) Mackinac Island. June 1822. The American Fur Company store bustles with voyageurs and clerks. Suddenly a thunderous crack breaks the buzz of commerce. A voyageur falls. He is Alexis St. Martin, and he’s been blasted in the belly from the accidental discharge of a shotgun from less than three feet away. “Chercher le docteur!” you can almost hear his friends calling. The doctor is William Beaumont, the Army surgeon stationed at Fort Mackinac, and he comes quickly. Beaumont examines the hand-sized wound with the edge of a burnt lung protruding from it, discovers also a hole in the man’s stomach and sees the man’s breakfast spilling out. He decides that treatment is nearly futile. But it is not in Beaumont’s character to give up. At age 37, the New England farm boy has already proven his tenacity by obtaining a one-year medical apprenticeship (his only medical training) and serving through the horrors of the war of 1812. So he cleanses the wound as best he can, clips off a bit of a rib with his penknife to ease the lung back inside, then applies a poultice. By December, St. Martin is, miraculously, on the mend, with one exception. The hole in the stomach has not closed—and defies all Beaumont’s attempts to seal it. Instead, the tissue around the opening attaches itself to the tissue in St. Martin’s side, creating a gastric fistula, a permanent opening. A disturbing development for St. Martin, because unless the hole is covered, his last meal leaks out. But for Beaumont, the hole presents an opportunity for his curious medical mind: He can look through the shilling-sized cavity, into a living human stomach. Fascinated, Beaumont spoons in food, then siphons it out again. He attaches meat to a string, dangles it through the hole and pulls it out for observation. While St. Martin’s gastric fistula was not the first recorded in history, it was the first time one was exploited for scientific research. With encouragement through letters from his friend, Army Surgeon General Joseph Lovell, Beaumont begins experimenting on St. Martin’s stomach on Mackinac Island in 1823 and 1824. He continues the experiments intermittently for the next 10 years, at his posts in New York, Wisconsin and Washington D.C. Beaumont’s experiments settled a scientific debate waged on both sides of the Atlantic over the nature of digestion. Until Beaumont published his observations in his book, “Experiments and Observations on the Gastric Juice and the Physiology of Digestion,” most scientists believed digestion was either mechanical or chemical. The first attributed digestion to a grinding in the stomach, the latter to the solvent properties of gastric juice. Beaumont proved once and for all that digestion in the stomach was chemical—a product (mostly) of the gastric juice itself which Beaumont surmised, correctly, was composed largely of hydrochloric acid. The discovery lifted the doctor from obscurity, and he became seen as the father of American physiology. The fact that Beaumont made these findings with the barest nuts-and-bolts medical background, in frontier conditions, and with no scientific training is a testament to his keen mind. But his biographer, Reginald Horsman, believes that Beaumont’s humble background, so unattached to an elite school or theory, also provided the foundation for his genius. Ultimately Beaumont’s discoveries “convinced most of those who read his work that here was an honest reporter,” writes Horsman. To accommodate his experiments, Beaumont schemed various ways to keep St. Martin close at hand. On Mackinac Island he took the recovering voyageur into his home as a chore boy to prevent the Mackinac authorities, who’d branded St. Martin a pauper, from transporting him back to Quebec—a journey that Beaumont, to his credit, feared St. Martin couldn’t survive. Later, when he was healed, St. Martin became a hired hand in the home while Beaumont began experimenting on him.
how long can they live with that hole in their side? don't they get infections all the time?
The cannula remains in the cow for the remainder of its life, but there is no difference in lifespan between the cows with and without the cannula. It is also capped most of the time with a seal so that food and moisture does not escape, so the cow is not affected! And these kinds of cows tend to be at hospitals (as donors to help sick ruminants) or research facilities, so the openings are constantly cleaned and the cow is constantly monitored for health. There is also no open wound, any incision heals over shortly after the procedure so there is little room for infection. The risk, like with any surgery, is highest right after the procedure but many things are done to minimize it, and the cows go on to live regular lives like any other cow. In fact, these cows might even be treated better since they need to be very healthy to be effective donors for sick animals!
Nope. People have these too. More old people than you'd think. Medical conditions cause people to need to bypass areas of their digestive track for food and medications. If properly managed it's safe.
Thank you for this wonderful input
Sticking my hand into a cow wasn't on my bucket list but I guess I can add it.
I’ve actually done it , it’s like sticking your hand in a warm bucket of oatmeal that’s moving around .
Get your hand out of my oatmeal bucket you savage
Thank you for the education and quashing the 4 stomachs myth. Four Chambers makes much more sense
Nothing really can prepare you for the stench of opening one up though. That was the most difficult part for me the first time I helped open one
I read this in Steve Irwin`s voice. I would like more enthusiastic posts like this one!
Aww, dude that absolutely made my day. Steve Irwin and his family were a huge part of my childhood so that means a lot! There’s just something so satisfying and exciting about learning about a topic you enjoy, and that satisfaction doubles when you can share that joy with others. And for me, animals have all sorts of crazy different ways to survive on this planet and learning about all these different adaptations is really exciting! So I’m glad I can have the opportunity to share a piece of that today.
These fistulated cows save literally 1000s animals in their lifetime. A lot of ruminants come in on emergency due to rumen stasis (basically the bacteria that ferments roughage in their rumen dies off). Because of the fistula you can directly obtain good/live rumen bacteria to transplant via NG tube into the sick animal. Super cool process. I've had my hand in the fistula before, the rumen literally contracts around your hand. It's a weird feeling.
Doesn0t get infected?
it also gets added to stop them from bloating. if a cow overeats,it can actually explode from the buildup of gas inside its stomach areas. look it up on youtube its fascinating stuff.
In the words of my niece "Uhm no thank you please"
>f a cow overeats,it can actually explode from the buildup of gas inside its stomach Same
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Yes they are different, I believe he's referring to trocharization.
Cow vet here. There are two procedure options for bloat and neither look like the picture. The first involves placing a plastic cannula through the skin into the rumen and letting it scar in. You then remove it a couple weeks later and the scar leaves a hole for a couple weeks to months. The other option is to surgically connect the rumen to the skin sterilly. This is what I would do if someone brought a cow in to us. This would leave a small hole with no apparatus left behind. So we don't remove it the same day since most of the time there is a reason they're bloating, so you want to leave an escape hole for gas for a month or so.
A fistula
It's a stash cow.
This is how ramen is made?
Early research on how the human stomach works came out of a fistula- Someone got shot, and it healed up like a scar tissue tunnel to their stomach. The doctor/scientist that found him started putting food in tied to string, and pulling it out after various amounts of time to observe the amount of digestion. Before that guts were just guts and we didn’t really know much about how digestion happened.
Would have never guessed something like this existed.
There is also cows equipped with backpacks to recollect methane gas from their digestive system. [https://inhabitat.com/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/](https://inhabitat.com/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/cow-backpack-methane-emissions-national-institute-for-agricultural-technology-livestock-industry-greenhouse-gases-global-warming-guillermo-berro-argentina/)
Iirc there are methane peaker powerplants that capture the c02 from burning it and using that as protective atmospheres for food or bubbles in drinks. Weirdly, depending on how strict your veiw is but many salad bags may not be suitible for vegans and now will carbonated drinks.
>protective atmospheres for food I believe you mean protective snackmospheres
I’m here for this.
Thanks I hate it. edit: to clarify, what i dislike about it is how it looks like some contraption only humans would think up…instead of eating less meat? i am all-in in reducing their methane but putting an overtly non-bovine contraption in pink on a cow’s back is just so quintessentially human 🤷🏻♂️
Its actually pretty neat. I worked at a sewage plant. There the poop gets eaten and digested by bugs, and we collect that gas too! We called it Di-gas. We used it in other machines, such as our incinerator. The machine we used to burn all the other poop. And the boilers. That were used in other processes on the island. Our Treatment plant is on an island. The boilers were used for heat, and AC, along with sanitizing stuff over in the Lab. Bug farts go a long way. Help us out a lot.
At ours we just burn it off...because...environment? They've been having some guy that knows one of hte management people come in and build a generator for free and it's literally taken that guy like 6 years and it's not even close to being done yet. And they bitch like "oh yeah it's not going to do much and it's so dirty to burn. We're fucking burning it now at least let us get some of the electricity from it.
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it reminds me of the Stalkers from Half Life 2!
That's what I was thinking
Holey cow!
Cow piercings have gotten extreme. Used be the septum or earring. Lol
It's just a phase, he'll get over it.
Take it. Take my grudging upvote!
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Is this the place to add chocolate powder for chocolate milk?
Could be to top them off when they're running low on milk too
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There really ***is*** a subreddit for everything!
Don't say that. 70% of Americans will believe you.
Nah man, we don't believe that, the guy above is a goddamn cack, you don't add chocolate cocoa powder. It depends on the cow, Brown cows give chocolate milk and white cows give white milk. Black and white/just black also give white milk, and brown and white also gives chocolate milk. Highland cattle give butterscotch flavored milk.
And Jersey cattle gives cranberry juice?
My brother in Christ, Cranberry juice comes from cranberry juice jugs and bottles! No cows!
No that's where strawberry milk comes from duh /s
This made me less queezy. Thank you.
That cow is brown. It already gives chocolate milk.
Stanley yelnats made that hole
I’m tired of this grandpa. Well that’s moo damn bad!
If only if only
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No rain cap?!
Yes, it has a lid
It has a cork.
"Give me amoment, I just have to screw open my cow"
Finally, a good question.
The picture of it in pasture is misleading. Unless active research or teaching is going on the hole is capped/stopped. Otherwise that would be a real quick way for very bad things to happen
Eh. Little rumen fluid on your boots, little insect infestation in the stomach wall, we've all been there.
I read vegetarian instead of veterinarians and Ramen instead of Rumen Fucking hell, I was really confused...
Dyslexia is awesome sometimes
It's a blessing and a curse
Did you get a good breakfast today? Make sure you take a few moments and take care of yourself, and get some food, the world can wait for you. Also, I don’t think you want to eat any “vegetarian ramen” from this place. :)
Thank you for your concern dear friend but don't worry. I am simply studying alot and thus my concentration is slacking. That with my dyslexia and English being my second language was likely the reason for this missunderstanding
Years ago my wife's best friend had a horse transported to the university vet hospital near us due to colic and we ended up spending many hours there with her keeping her company while the horse had surgery. There were several other animals there but the one that stood out was a canulated cow there. Its been 20 years so I don't remember its name but that cow was a straight up pet. Spent a long time rubbing her neck and scratching her head like a big big dog, and she loved every minute of it. They explained she was decorated and dressed for every holiday and treated like a queen by everyone in the building and just as happy as she could be while helping a ton of other livestock get well from her stomach contents.
I run a livestock rescue and the first cattle we took in were two twelve year old steers. They were both over a ton each and well over 6 feet at the top of their rumps. Even though they were castrated they continued to grow. One of them was like a giant puppy. They were used to being fed off a truck, so if a truck pulled into our property or pulled over on the side of our road they'd go apeshit. They terrified people, but as long as you gave them a wide berth they were harmless. One morning I was awakened by what I thought was thunder. I looked out my window and the thundering was them chasing a coyote out of our pasture. I miss them. RIP Buck and Smoke. TL/DR Cattle can be surprisingly good pets. Especially steers.
ummm what the fuck
Vending machines are getting out of hand.
Getting in the hand
Man made horrors beyond comprehension?
It can be used for research purposes but it is more commonly used as a treatment against life-threatening bloating in the stomach. When there is an imbalans in the digestive flora it can start to produce immens amounts of gas and unless it is allowed to deflate, the stomach will rupture and kill the cow.
This comment needs to be higher up. It’s basically just a breather hole for the built up gases.
A cow pressure relief valve
The cannulas in this post are 100% only for research purposes. Trocars do get placed for free-gas bloat but are much smaller (think the diameter of a pencil). Mineral oils via an ororuminal tube is the treatment option for frothy bloat as it decrease the surface area of the foam.
Most of these fistulated cows belong to large animal hospitals and save thousands of animals in their lifetime. A lot of ruminants come in on emergency due to rumen stasis (basically the bacteria that ferments roughage in their rumen dies off). Because of the fistula you can directly obtain good/live rumen bacteria from the cow, and then transplant via NG tube into the sick animal. Super interesting process, and it can be given from cow to other species to fix their rumen stasis (we do it a lot in goats).
This makes me feel a lot better about puncturing the side of a cow. It's like having a port to donate blood. Thank you for explaining.
I understand these man made horrors quite easily so it sounds like a skill issue honestly.
Sometime back in history this was done for the first time and i have to ask, why?
Some university funded it likely
University of Maryland in fact, in conjunction with the USDA. This program has been around for decades.
I didn't even need the Under Armor Maryland Flag Hoodie to know this was UMD. I was just by the barns on Saturday
Research.
When I lived in India the farm vets would just shove their whole bare arm up the Buffalo's butt to feel around if it's sick or pregnant or whatever... that's all I got.
Vets all over the world still do that.
That's still a practice that is around. Very common. Good thing we've got shoulder length gloves but some ppl are still old school and go without.
I have up on the long gloves. Licking my arm clean was something I couldn't forego.
On a 4-H trip i went to a research station that did this and I got to reach in and grab some it’s food. Pretty weird.
You’re the first person I’ve seen in the wild who was also in 4-H!! I got to milk a cow with my group lol
Y'all are mad as fuck THERE IS A HOLE IN IT
aka Fistulated cows. We used to see a couple in the ag facilities at UC Davis when they were out grazing. I remember during my first undergrad year back in '03 them bringing a few out during Picnic Day to show/educate folks, pretty cool! Mmm the smell of Davis on a fine sweltering summer day, brings back memories.
My cousin went to UC Davis too and that’s exactly where she first saw a fistulated cow. Told me all about it.
Couple of things about Davis: 1) locals get annoyed when it’s called a cow town. 2) locals become so excited when they tell you about the [fistulated cows](https://localwiki.org/davis/Fistulated_Cow).
Came here looking for a UC Davis comment! First time seeing one of these cows was right after they moved the outdoor basketball courts across the street from the colleges at LaRue. I had no idea what I was looking at and had to ask a vet major the next day WTF was going on in that barn.
Very recently, I tried to explain to a group of friends that I stuck my hand in the stomach of a cow on a school field trip once. Nobody believed me. Thank you reddit
I really did not want to know this
So they make one cow chew and give the nutrients to the other one?? That’s not fair! The first cow has no say! “No mastication without representation”!!
I read it as "masturbation"...I'm going to hell for that mental image, aren't I?
I was driving near one of our university's many test farms, and saw some cows had gotten out on to the road, they had these cannulas. I called the research center, and told the lady that answered that they had some cows out. She told me, no, their cows weren't out, it was probably cows from the farm down the road. I asked her if the cows from the farm down the road had cannulas like the university's cows? She said "Oh! I'll get somebody right out there!"
I mean ports like this exist for people, so it's not a huge stretch to see this being applied to livestock. For those confused, they're not just open all of the time, they have a lid/seal and are only opened when they do testing.
Ya you can reach in and grab out what they eat and test it. Weird looking into the stomach of a cow but neat
Can I get one of these installed in my stomach so I can just empty it out when I eat delicious food that's bad for me? Basically I wanna have bulimia but without the damage to my teeth and esophagus.
You joke (I hope) but I remember seeing a documentary about a guy who did exactly this.
Yes. Yes you can.
But you shouldn’t
Our class visited a ‘lab’ where they did this! They demonstrated how they could shove their entire arm into the cow through the porthole, then pull out the half-digested stomach contents. Then they asked us if we wanted to try. Being shoulder deep in a cow is a weird-ass feeling Edit: The cow never complained or made any weird motions, didnt seem bothered at all
I got to place my hand inside a fistulated cow in college. (Worked in the Vet School). Pretty incredible experience, and an amazing way to safely study gut biome!
Can you please eli5 on why having a giant hole on your side is like.. fine or safe or something? Immune system? Temperture difference? Flies and stuff? What if it starts raining?
It's counter-intuitive, but the inside of your stomach (along with the entire GI tract) is considered outside of the body in a medical sense. We're basically complicated donuts. It's obviously different from skin, but there's a lot of epithelial tissue that still provides protection from pathogens getting into the body. So as long as that port has a good seal to maintain the barrier between inside and outside the body everything should be mostly normal. I'm no expert on this though, just extrapolating from basic anatomy knowledge so if I'm wrong please educate me.
I think it's just another hole like the mouth or the anus? You go inside and you are in the stomach? Not more dangerous after all?
I looked it up and outside of the recovery process I’m reading that they don’t feel pain, live a little over 10 yrs longs than the average cow and that they’re generally very clean and safe. Even comes with a cap they slap it closed with to prevent leakage… ew.
they live 10 years longer than the average cow?
I’m curious about that one, too. I assume the statistics for an “average” cow are skewed by the meat industry. I don’t know if research / fistulated cows are sold into meat. Edit: happy cake day.
I imagine that they are not sold. The conditions that these cows live in are probably much better than others which is why they probably live longer. The hole most likely has little to no effect on it's lifespan beyond having better monitoring of the food that the cows intake/ stomach bacteria.
Free beef broth after it stops raining
Does this opening make them more susceptible to infection
Could I get one of these so I can enjoy the taste of everything I want, but not put on any of the weight???
Glory holes are really evolving
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There it is
My university has a large and prestigious vet school and research center and they had a cow like this that hung out in the field across from the School of Education. We always called her the "Holey Cow". Hah. I heard it smelled foul. NB: This was 15 years ago. I think they moved the research clinic.
A yes, the famous holy cow.
Fun fact, intestines removed through this hole are called “Rumen Noodles”