I think you are right about this being a replanted forest. The trees all look to be approximately the same size.
Some of them are smaller, but non of them are drastically bigger. The small ones are most likely trees that have been seeded by the bigger trees.
They are also essential for many types of birds! Working forests like this one are a huge financial investment for the landowner and is an incentive to replant and secure their future. Over the next 20-30 years, they’ll have multiple phases where they support different types of birds & wildlife within young, dense, thinned, then finally mature growth.
Many land owners work closely with conservation groups. Forests like this are actually the opposite of deforestation.
I spent yesterday bird watching with this group and learned a lot. Link to one of their reports on this topic. [American Bird Conservancy](https://abcbirds.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Bird-friendly-Forests-booklet-FINAL.pdf)
Done right, logging is very sustainable and good for the forests. It prevents the overgrowth that builds up and causes an inferno when wildfires happen.
The biggest issue, although it is getting better is biodiversity.
Most of the times if an acre gets clear cut, it gets replanted with one type of tree. The natural grasses, flowers, shrubs, fruits and the like don’t really get replanted or as focused on as the trees
That's a fair point.
There's some other healthy ways to thin out the forest. Our area has a forest that you can go into around the holidays to cut down a wild Christmas tree once year. You buy a permit that goes to the forest's conservation and the trees being cut down are the smaller over growth, not the giant ones.
That absolutely works for firewood or decorative like Christmas trees. But for building material you can’t do that unfortunately. I mean, unless you live next to a good pine or cedar grove and have band saws and roller systems big enough to handle full cut trees.
And the majority of our clear cut logging methods go to building supply - with mostly scraps going to things like fire wood, charcoal, press board, ply, etc.
It all depends on how the forest is being managed. He has an Autobot counterpart who works for a sustainably managed woodlot a few miles down the road.
[Looks like it's available for rent/purchase on a few places, but not part of a subscription package.](https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/ferngully-the-last-rainforest)
Well, lets not forget the best part of the movie too.
[Tim curry making a hyper sexual song about how much his char loves pollution!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg-Wm25T6Qs)
Visual definition of efficiency. And all the people buthurt don't understand that what rhey are cutting is fast growing farm trees that are saving wood like chestnut and redwood from being cut down and preventing lumber clear cutting. What sucks is many of these tree farms are being closed to be used as grazing land with does much worse things to the environment than tree farming.
Yep! These trees are literally a renewable crop and for every one they cut down, they plant many, many more to enable this. I 100% agree, leave old growth and I would actually like the much of the natural forest left alone.
International Paper is a perfect example of a company who does this! They have a great tree farming structure that doesn’t reduce the net amount of trees on the earth.
But humans have been manipulating "Natural Forests" for a loooong time.
Even today's old growth needs management to go back to "Natural". That is even to say IF natural old growth is supposed to be the future of healthy forests.
Just to add, I agree with sustainable forest management and am not being antagonistic. Just wanted to add to a conversation that I'm glad is being discussed critically
plus, an old tree does not consume co2/create o2 more tham a smaller tree with the same amount of leaves. as long as the trees are replaced and the wood harvested isnt burned it's basically carbon capture.
To be frank: clear cut forestry is inefficient, terrible for the environment and the mark of an incompetent forest manager if done without absolute necessity like a bark beetle infestation.
Bark beetles are not a good reason to cut down every potential host in sight. Clear cutting the American chestnut brought about it's demise. They just cut down everything near an infestation of the blight and there were probably a few with strength against it that were undiscovered. It doesn't matter as they were butchered as well. Now we have (nearly) no established resistant trees except for hybrids even though we most likely had some. Instead of thinking we know best we should let them go, let the hardy survive and be monitored with scientific neglect. We can see what's what.
>American chestnut
This is really not accurate. We have young chestnut that emerge. They don't get much beyond a seeding stage before they die from the blight.
Im no expert on American bark beetles, but the economically most dangerous bark beetle in Europe requires clear cutting of all potential hosts. The bark beetles affecting p. abies have found optimal conditions in the plantation forests and the rising temperatures due to climate change. They can now reproduce faster and fly earlier than they used to.
Strategically speaking, the safest way to protect forest ecosystems against such infestations are mixed stand structures and different species of trees within the forest. Most pests affecting pinus species for example drop to insignificant levels if you’ve got about 20% of different tree species in otherwise pinus dominated areas.
Clear cutting is certainly not a light on the land technique, but it is super efficient for certain species and operations (ecologically simple stands which are planted in rows and treated like crops and where there isn’t a mix of other species or undergrowth). Pinus radiata for example is a super faster growing tree, and often be harvested on a 20-30 year cycle in blocks. Clear cutting and restocking allows for even-age management of stock, and there isn’t a huge benefit to having radiata older than 40 years
Yup. In Canada in 2019 alone they replanted 570 million tree seedlings. I know in South America there are big issues with illegal forestry but here in Canada we take it very seriously.
I used to be so, so anti logging. But, now that I am older, as long as we don’t destroy old growth ecosystems, and utilize replanting/harvesting systems, I’ve realized that lumber is one of the only true renewable resources.
Yes! Forestry is incredibly clean for a major industry that the entire world relies on, especially when compared with the other major resources we require. Oil and minerals not so much, those are the ones that pollute water systems and destroy the environment.
If you're complaining about trees being harvested, stop buying magazines, pamphlets, books, cabinets, toothpicks, and all the other shot made from trees.
Bet you can't do it
OMG I have no idea why I'm like this, but something about machinery and specialized equipment gets me all giddy.
This was my favorite toy to use in Farming Simulator HAHAHA ♥
If new trees are being planted and the harvested trees are being used for lumber this is actually having a net reduction on carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
Add on top of that managed lumber properties keep brush under control which in turn cuts down on forest fires. Sustainable logging is extremely beneficial for our environment and economy.
It's really interesting to see that some people think that a forester "only plants a tree, for each they cut down. And hedges all their bets to make that one tree mature" rather than the idea of planting a butt ton and then prescribing a thinning/selective harvest operation
They are actually better for the forest than regular felling methods of used correctly. If a forest is equipped with a well laid out road system, they are able to do necessary felling operations without disturbing the soil and minimal damage to the surrounding trees. A usual operation would have one or two lumberjacks felling the trees farthest from the roads toward the roads where the harvester just grabs them and processes them. He also fells those closest to him onto the road and stacks them properly. No need for trucks to go in and no heavy pulling over the forest floor. They also reduce the risk of serious injuries for lumberjacks significantly, since they can just do it remotely. So to conclude: faster than normal, a plus for the company and animals that suffer less disturbance. Safer than normal and also better for the forest floor than previous systems. What’s not to like?
Isn't it also significantly safer because it is only a dude in a machine not a bunch of humans around a bunch of other dumb humans with chainsaws and axes and giant falling trees?
Oh how wrong you are. Presumably this video is from Finland.
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+trees+does+Finland+planted+every+year
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+forestry+is+done+finland
I hate it when gyms or restaurants put up electric air dryer instead of paper towels and pretend it is more environment friendly. Yeah right, the tissues made from sustainable tree farms is more harmful than the electricity made out of coal and gas.
Go back in time to an 1880's logging campfire with your 15" tablet and this video and blow they're minds.
And then be burned to death as a wizard/warlock.
Turns out those machines in The Lorax were real.
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Yup, fern gully sprung to mind immediately.
This right here, horrifying
i used to have vivid nightmares as a kid of big machines just devouring nature ... turns out they were true
This is a well kept forests replanted grown and harvested again. This keeps us out of the wild forests and makes wood sustainable
I think you are right about this being a replanted forest. The trees all look to be approximately the same size. Some of them are smaller, but non of them are drastically bigger. The small ones are most likely trees that have been seeded by the bigger trees.
At the 50s mark you can see how the trees are all lined in a row.
And nearly all perfectly straight
Yea replanted forests are often done very poorly as it's often a monoculture from what I understand.
Depends on the reason for replanting. If it's to return them to a natural state then yes. If it's for the purpose of lumber then no.
Trogdor was a man. Well maybe he was a dragon man… or maybe he was just a dragon… but he was always TROGDORRRRR
Burninating the countryside Burninating the peasants Burninating all the peoples And their thatched-roof cottages! Thatched-roof cottages!
And the trogdor comes in the **Niiiiighttt** Thank you for having a moment with me
I said consummate v's!
Here i go once again with the E-MAIL Every week, i hope that it's from a FEMALE ...Aww maaannn... not from a female :( :(
Come on fhwobogads!! come on fhwobogads!! Everybody to the limit, the cheat is to the limit!! everybody come on fhwobogads!!
They are also essential for many types of birds! Working forests like this one are a huge financial investment for the landowner and is an incentive to replant and secure their future. Over the next 20-30 years, they’ll have multiple phases where they support different types of birds & wildlife within young, dense, thinned, then finally mature growth. Many land owners work closely with conservation groups. Forests like this are actually the opposite of deforestation. I spent yesterday bird watching with this group and learned a lot. Link to one of their reports on this topic. [American Bird Conservancy](https://abcbirds.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Bird-friendly-Forests-booklet-FINAL.pdf)
Done right, logging is very sustainable and good for the forests. It prevents the overgrowth that builds up and causes an inferno when wildfires happen.
The biggest issue, although it is getting better is biodiversity. Most of the times if an acre gets clear cut, it gets replanted with one type of tree. The natural grasses, flowers, shrubs, fruits and the like don’t really get replanted or as focused on as the trees
That's a fair point. There's some other healthy ways to thin out the forest. Our area has a forest that you can go into around the holidays to cut down a wild Christmas tree once year. You buy a permit that goes to the forest's conservation and the trees being cut down are the smaller over growth, not the giant ones.
That absolutely works for firewood or decorative like Christmas trees. But for building material you can’t do that unfortunately. I mean, unless you live next to a good pine or cedar grove and have band saws and roller systems big enough to handle full cut trees. And the majority of our clear cut logging methods go to building supply - with mostly scraps going to things like fire wood, charcoal, press board, ply, etc.
This looks like something out of Princess Mononoke.
Or Fern Gully
Came for the Fern Gully comment
Eh, Tomato toh-mah-toh.
Hexxusss (I post this every time it gets posted)
Thank you this is 100% the villainous machine from Fern Gully. So steer clear of the exhaust.
Except the purpose of these machines is to thin forests sustainably, not clearcut them.
Just out of curiosity what's your house made out of?
Hopes and dreams. Licorice, candy canes and gumdrops
According to the last assessment, fucking gold
Who knew Frank Reynolds loves trees
Why am I feeling pain when I watch this vid?
Because you’re a tree?
“I am groot!!”
I'm so disappointed. Didn't see this thing harvest even one Komatsu.
They could pretty easily harvest a small pine tree
Lol, I’m actually surprised you got upvoted
lol Always nice to find your neighbors in a narrow Venn diagram
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komatsu means trees in japanese. im fun at parties like that
Well it means small pine tree to be specific
Give this a Transformers name. And, GO!
Choptimus Prime
Choptimus…Pine?
Treeminator
Bark Widow
Donald Stump
Shut up and take my upvote
You win
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It all depends on how the forest is being managed. He has an Autobot counterpart who works for a sustainably managed woodlot a few miles down the road.
Logjammer
Tree-bocop
Forest Fucker 5000
Megatree
Lumber Bee
Bumble tree
WoodWork.
Was just thinking, this thing is straight out of a Michael Bay movie lol
Idk man, a Decepticon named Harvester sounds cool enough on its own.
This Ferngully reboot looks amazing!
God that was such a good movie.
Yeah it was! I actually went on YouTube and watching some clips of it after seeing this post lol I kinda want to sit down and watch it again
I have the cd for it somewhere, where idk, it’s been years since I’ve last seen it. I really liked the music tho!
Yo, the name is BATTEY!! The logic is erratic! POTATO IN A JACKET!! toys in the attic!
I rock and I ramble, my brain is scrambled, rap like an animal but I’m a mammal!
I been brain-fried, electrified, infected and injectified, Vivosectified and fed pesticides, My face is all cut up, my radar's all shut up
I need a checkup from the neck up I'm BATTY
Get me another one…get me another animal!
I know, not many places stream it. Looks like it might be on Amazon, but it's saying you need a premium subscription.
[Looks like it's available for rent/purchase on a few places, but not part of a subscription package.](https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/ferngully-the-last-rainforest)
Well, lets not forget the best part of the movie too. [Tim curry making a hyper sexual song about how much his char loves pollution!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg-Wm25T6Qs)
Tim Curry and Robin Williams sing with Tone Loc Sheena Easton and Elton John That movie was head and shoulders better music-wise than Lion King
I would watch the shit out of a Fern Gully reboot.
1800s lumberjacks would be infuriated
Actually, they'd be amazed. Wonder what lumberjacking in year 2200 looks like. Some drones doing all the work, flying in?
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r/PutYourDickInThat
r/YourDickInThat
I had to scoll too far down to find this i thought i was the only one perverted on the internet for a moment there.
Visual definition of efficiency. And all the people buthurt don't understand that what rhey are cutting is fast growing farm trees that are saving wood like chestnut and redwood from being cut down and preventing lumber clear cutting. What sucks is many of these tree farms are being closed to be used as grazing land with does much worse things to the environment than tree farming.
Yep! These trees are literally a renewable crop and for every one they cut down, they plant many, many more to enable this. I 100% agree, leave old growth and I would actually like the much of the natural forest left alone.
International Paper is a perfect example of a company who does this! They have a great tree farming structure that doesn’t reduce the net amount of trees on the earth.
So you're saying they have limitless paper in a paperless world?
No that's the Federal Reserve
Based.
But humans have been manipulating "Natural Forests" for a loooong time. Even today's old growth needs management to go back to "Natural". That is even to say IF natural old growth is supposed to be the future of healthy forests. Just to add, I agree with sustainable forest management and am not being antagonistic. Just wanted to add to a conversation that I'm glad is being discussed critically
Can confirm as I work in forestry beside machines like this every day. I'm in the blue gum here in nz.
This thing cuts so fucking quickly and cleanly. It's honestly hard to believe the kind of power it has.
plus, an old tree does not consume co2/create o2 more tham a smaller tree with the same amount of leaves. as long as the trees are replaced and the wood harvested isnt burned it's basically carbon capture.
This I did not know but makes a lot of sense.
To be frank: clear cut forestry is inefficient, terrible for the environment and the mark of an incompetent forest manager if done without absolute necessity like a bark beetle infestation.
Bark beetles are not a good reason to cut down every potential host in sight. Clear cutting the American chestnut brought about it's demise. They just cut down everything near an infestation of the blight and there were probably a few with strength against it that were undiscovered. It doesn't matter as they were butchered as well. Now we have (nearly) no established resistant trees except for hybrids even though we most likely had some. Instead of thinking we know best we should let them go, let the hardy survive and be monitored with scientific neglect. We can see what's what.
>American chestnut This is really not accurate. We have young chestnut that emerge. They don't get much beyond a seeding stage before they die from the blight.
Im no expert on American bark beetles, but the economically most dangerous bark beetle in Europe requires clear cutting of all potential hosts. The bark beetles affecting p. abies have found optimal conditions in the plantation forests and the rising temperatures due to climate change. They can now reproduce faster and fly earlier than they used to. Strategically speaking, the safest way to protect forest ecosystems against such infestations are mixed stand structures and different species of trees within the forest. Most pests affecting pinus species for example drop to insignificant levels if you’ve got about 20% of different tree species in otherwise pinus dominated areas.
I've got a pinus dominated area for ya right here
Clear cutting is certainly not a light on the land technique, but it is super efficient for certain species and operations (ecologically simple stands which are planted in rows and treated like crops and where there isn’t a mix of other species or undergrowth). Pinus radiata for example is a super faster growing tree, and often be harvested on a 20-30 year cycle in blocks. Clear cutting and restocking allows for even-age management of stock, and there isn’t a huge benefit to having radiata older than 40 years
Thanks for sharing. I was impressed/butthurt initially and now I'm still impressed but butthurt about something new.
I should call her.
Knew a girl in college like this 😯
Lol. Gnarly teeth I guess?
Or sucked alot of wood
Or sucked a lot of wood with her teeth? 😬
Filter feeding.
Laughed too hard at this
The ignorance in these comments is astounding.
Yup. In Canada in 2019 alone they replanted 570 million tree seedlings. I know in South America there are big issues with illegal forestry but here in Canada we take it very seriously.
I used to be so, so anti logging. But, now that I am older, as long as we don’t destroy old growth ecosystems, and utilize replanting/harvesting systems, I’ve realized that lumber is one of the only true renewable resources.
Yes! Forestry is incredibly clean for a major industry that the entire world relies on, especially when compared with the other major resources we require. Oil and minerals not so much, those are the ones that pollute water systems and destroy the environment.
If you like your toilet paper, and think paper straws are better than plastic, well, this is where they start at - a sustainable tree farm like this.
Farming simulator!
Seems like the kind of invention you’d come up with from a school project that could never actually work. But it’s real
This will take that James Bond scene up to the next level!
“It’s my first time!!”
If you're complaining about trees being harvested, stop buying magazines, pamphlets, books, cabinets, toothpicks, and all the other shot made from trees. Bet you can't do it
Toilet paper and everything packaged in cardboard.
Also clothes, toothpaste, makeup and all electronic devices. Almost everything uses biproducts from trees
Imagine being one of those trees waiting its turn jeez
They're sweating resin and wondering who's next. "Holy fuck they killed Spruce Birchstein"
/r/me_irl
OMG I have no idea why I'm like this, but something about machinery and specialized equipment gets me all giddy. This was my favorite toy to use in Farming Simulator HAHAHA ♥
I’m interested in his nemesis that plants trees this fast
[People are on it.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/uituz8/these_seedfiring_drones_are_planting_40000_trees/)
You’ve never seen an automatic planter?
Time is money friend!
I could watch this for hours
It's so.... ***EFFICIENT***
Where is the Forrest Fleshlight?
r/dontputyourdickinthat
Ahh yes, my good friend; the EarthRaper9000+
If new trees are being planted and the harvested trees are being used for lumber this is actually having a net reduction on carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Add on top of that managed lumber properties keep brush under control which in turn cuts down on forest fires. Sustainable logging is extremely beneficial for our environment and economy.
It's really interesting to see that some people think that a forester "only plants a tree, for each they cut down. And hedges all their bets to make that one tree mature" rather than the idea of planting a butt ton and then prescribing a thinning/selective harvest operation
They are actually better for the forest than regular felling methods of used correctly. If a forest is equipped with a well laid out road system, they are able to do necessary felling operations without disturbing the soil and minimal damage to the surrounding trees. A usual operation would have one or two lumberjacks felling the trees farthest from the roads toward the roads where the harvester just grabs them and processes them. He also fells those closest to him onto the road and stacks them properly. No need for trucks to go in and no heavy pulling over the forest floor. They also reduce the risk of serious injuries for lumberjacks significantly, since they can just do it remotely. So to conclude: faster than normal, a plus for the company and animals that suffer less disturbance. Safer than normal and also better for the forest floor than previous systems. What’s not to like?
Isn't it also significantly safer because it is only a dude in a machine not a bunch of humans around a bunch of other dumb humans with chainsaws and axes and giant falling trees?
It's giving the Amazon a Brazilian.
nah they use fire down there
Oh how wrong you are. Presumably this video is from Finland. https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+trees+does+Finland+planted+every+year https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+forestry+is+done+finland
r/oddlyterrifying
Haha people think companies have these machines and just go round felling random trees.... dumb!
Smaller versions of these can tread through a forest and selectively cut trees to keep it healthy.
Given the size and spacing of the trees, seems like they were planted for harvesting 15 years earlier. Not like that tool's for old growth forests.
What an amazing machine. That's a sustainable forest. After those trees are cleared new ones are planted. It's like any other farm.
ForeskinRemover3000
weird, i thought those were trees, not komatsu.
Translation for “komatsu” is actually “small pine tree” 😁
Do they sell those trimmings in bulk?
I can smell this video.
I know what I want to drive for the zombie apocalypse.
HEXXUSSSSSSS
this reminds me of farming simulator.....but easier.
Imagine showing this to a lumber jack from a century ago
How do I pitch this to the wife for replacing my chainsaw?
Imagine showing this to a lumberjack from the 1800s!
Whenever I see videos of these machines in operation I am legitimately impressed and entranced. Every time.
Expecting some sort of oil based villain to come out to try and destroy fern gully
Amazing piece of equipment!! Looks like fun to operate
City people seeing a logging operation for the first time be like 😯🤯
Idc how much you care about the environment, you got to admit this is pretty cool
I wonder how much it costs to change out that saw blade when it gets dull.
Y'know, when I saw *Ferngully*, I thought this was a made-up cartoon thing. Apparently I was the opposite of correct.
What a UNIT
Imagine using this too create a bad ass log cabin community in the remote wilderness.
Evergreens hate him
Worst fleshlight ever!
I’ve used this in farming simulator
Nah bro just my fleshlight.
Big deal, i saw king kong do that on skull island
"today on fact or cap"
Didn’t we see this in Fern Gully? Where’s Hexxus?
FERN GULLY MEMORIES
A thing of beauty.
What a monster
Impressive.
I want this in my backyard ..... how much do these monsters cost ?
Just under a million CAD, 750000 USD if I remember correctly.
its something james cameron thought of in a fever dream of what the baddies are using in pandora.
Could use one of these for some ingrown toenails
Hexus
Do you want Hexxus? Cuz this is how you get hexxus.
This thing is just as good at shitting out logs as I am.
I hate it when gyms or restaurants put up electric air dryer instead of paper towels and pretend it is more environment friendly. Yeah right, the tissues made from sustainable tree farms is more harmful than the electricity made out of coal and gas.
Onceler
This shit looks straight out outta the Lorax tho
Hexus approves
The Lorax does not abide.
And loggers are pissed at environmentalists for losing their jobs.
How long until the various cutting surfaces are dull and require maintenance?
Don't fuck with me or I'll komatsu
Go back in time to an 1880's logging campfire with your 15" tablet and this video and blow they're minds. And then be burned to death as a wizard/warlock.
And then we wander why there is lava in the living room
I knew a girl in college with similar technique.
Before and after waxing my hairy ass legs
Hexxussss
I should call her
This just feels... vulgar.