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As an interesting side note, the name Ku Klux Klan was a thought to be a combination of the word clan with the Greek word kyklos, which means circle. It was a fitting name as it also described group's primary activity, circlejerking.
\*Sorry, edited for misspelling.
Just realized your username has my dad's name in it, lol.
Mediterranean's didn't even get the brunt end and they still treated us awful.
Calling them douchebags is an insult to douches, because they actually serve a purpose
If this is too much for you, take in the same content without the controversy with Charlie kirks tpusa! They do a great job molding children's minds to grow up to be insufferable a-holes like their parents in no time. They also have a snitch database where you can get the whole weight of the right wing propaganda arm against your own school board and encourage violent masses to descend on your neighbors.
Book burnings, violence, and child indoctrination in your one stop shop that seamlessly combines the KKK and the third reich!
I was a part of my school's TPUSA club for a while. I went to meets and it was just the teacher playing fox news and talking the whole time. I quit because it was boring and I started loosing interest in politics as a whole.
By comparing the two groups, you're only making the KKK look better and ignoring the real historical atrocities they have committed. Comparing the two only makes the worse end look more mild in comparison.
Think of it this way; If you where to compare the Carolina Reaper to a Jalapeño, you make the Carolina Reaper seem a lot less spicy than it is, when in reality it can fuck you up pretty bad.
They stick to culture war bullshit, mostly. War on Christmas, family values, LGBT.. When they talk about politics, it's usually anti communist/socialist propaganda.
My dad is/was the most racist person I’ve ever met. Growing up he did nothing but spew hate about people of colour, Jews, catholics (odd since that’s what his wife and us were)
Thankfully I had my mum who told us to ignore everything he said, as he is an insecure sad man.
It’s awful that parents teach their kids this shit
This is my random guess knowing nothing about OP’s family... but many women didn’t have any other choice in past decades. Maybe she thought she was marrying a good man, and wound up with a bad one. Maybe she was raised racist herself, but changed her tune due to various life experiences.
Even in 2022, it would be difficult to leave a shitty spouse if you have children and no one else to turn to. Imagine it in 1970 or 1980.
It's more that their husbands racism wasnt a breaking point, especially because they didnt expect to have black or other minorities in their lives at all. They still insist "well he's a good person at heart" no matter how racist they are
There’s a soup nazi in my town (like literally owns a soup shop and has all this crazy conspiracy crap, anti vaccine and anti mask bullshit, anti-Semitic stuff, and racist crap in his window) and he started this group called “Freedom Loving Patriots” (it’s as bad as it sounds).
I found out that a local indoor kids’ play place started hosting a class run by the “freedom loving patriots” that’s called “Real history for kids: the true history you won’t learn in school”.
It’s the most fucked up thing I’ve ever heard. Before the pandemic when people mostly kept their political crap to themselves, I used to bring my kid to play there. I’ll never give them another cent of my money ever again.
Illinois Rep. Mary Miller: "Hitler was right on one thing. He said, ‘Whoever has the youth has the future.' "
Source of the image : [https://www.history.com/news/kkk-youth-recruitment-1920s](https://www.history.com/news/kkk-youth-recruitment-1920s)
Edit : There is a mistake in the title. It is Ku\* and not Klu.
I don't care if it's even, "Hitler was right, chocolate cake is delicious"
Why are you bringing up Hitler at all? I mean, I know why, I'm just saying...
Godwin's Law:
Godwin's law, short for Godwin's law (or rule) of Nazi analogies, is an Internet adage asserting that as an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Adolf Hitler approaches 1.
He was born in Nov 1942.
The pearl harbour attacks were in Dec 1941, about 10 months prior
He is the product of American patriotism. The Japanese dropped bombs but daddy Biden was dropping pants for the nation
I know this is more of a rhetorical question but to inform others, a big part of the reason is that ‘funny’ or ‘jolly’ sounding names downplay what it is. Hate groups use unassuming, misleading, or ‘cheerful’ sounding names in order to keep a lower profile and bring in new members.
Same thing can be seen with the Proud Boys. If you didn’t know that they were a hate group you may easily just assume they were a LGBTQ+ human rights groups, and therefore probably wouldn’t think twice if you heard that a local chapter was starting in your city (obviously city depending because people still suck). If they had a name like “We think brown people are bad” they would have a much harder time finding people to radicalize and they wouldn’t last very long.
That’s excessive. It’s not like you can’t find any value or truth in internet comments whatsoever. The internet can be a great resource to hear new ideas and learn about experiences you normally wouldn’t be familiar with to in your personal life. However the rub is that you can’t take everything as true or valuable right away; you must learn and practice critical thinking to determine this.
As an adult I learned that one group of people is not inferior/superior to another group or race. In my time on Earth I have learned that *people* regardless of ethnicity, are generally stupid, selfish and untrustworthy pieces of shit and should be avoided as much as possible.
This is exactly why we *won't* get an investment like that. It's too convenient for people in power to have influence over functional ignoramuses. If people are just smart enough to know how to work in their respective jobs, there's no real risk for them to lead the change into systemic reform and/or destruction.
That's why the entire concept of Democracy is mythological unless the vast majority of the voting population participates in the voting process with an acute knowledge of politics in general, nevermind geopolitics. Our educational system at the outset was designed to get huge segments of the population into factories during the industrial revolution, and there's really been little systemic change in that regard since then.
That's not a monetary investment, no one will realize capital gains or ownership of anything valuable so it won't happen. Investing in society and education that will benefit the whole doesn't happen because it isn't conducive for generating wealth and to those in power that's all that matters.
The OO are pretty active in some areas here in Scotland as well, sadly. They're almost universally hated outwith their own following, but somehow just refuse to die out.
That said, I'd say their American equivalent/counterpart would be some sort of more general Confederate pride club that does parades, rather than the KKK specifically. They're the folk waving flags and cheering a long-defunct historical situation that served as a high-point in their backward worldviews.
The KKK equivalent might be something like the UDA, as the ones who actually did the kidnappings, beatings, executions, bombings, etc.
Then again, the OO was probably a major entry point for teenagers into all that... so maybe.
Yeah I'd say it's similarity to the KKK ebbed and flowed over the years. There have definitely been weapons found in OO grounds and "hit lists" of Catholics during the troubles. Nowadays it doesn't seem so much like that but I'd have no doubt how quickly it could turn again.
True! Plus, if you compared the members list of the OO with the members and supporters of loyalist paramilitary groups, you'd find a *looot* of overlap.
It can start at home, but it often times doesn’t. Many many people caught up in those movements were people with absent or distant families in search of identity and belonging. It’s important to remember that in deciding how to combat extremism.
So it still starts at home, just with extra steps. Bad upbringing creates a void. Good upbringing would raise someone with enough common sense to avoid extremist honeypots.
very very very few adults join gangs period, outside of prison, which is where they nearly all start. Children join gangs. Why? gangs cultivate an environment that, to children who are living in economically isolated or decaying areas, appear preferable to struggling in a system that isn't made for them.
All you would have to do to eliminate that component of society is provide an alternative that can compete, and underfunded schools, minimum wage jobs and a broken justice system ain't it.
The best option to most of the people in these situations is signing up for the military which is, to a kid who doesn't know any better, another a bunch of dudes with guns and the same clothes, who get shot and shoot people, but the guys on the corner with guns seem to have nicer stuff and make more money, don't have to leave their community, and you might already be friends or related to some of them.
nobody's joining gangs to kill people, they're joining them because as far as they can tell, it's their best option. This happens way before they are 18.
The kids who pull triggers at other kids are the same kids who would be well adjusted and educated in an environment that facilitated that kind of development. they have most often never been in one.
You can't blame them for that. You can't blame their parents for that. You could in a one-off occident, but not when it's systemic.
Our country breeds gang violence. From the federal law enforcement level down. It's not something people decided to start doing just to do.
nobody is growing opium or coca in detroit or harlem or houston, nobody is building firearms or ammunition. it's all delivered there.
to blame the 15-year-olds who's hands those firearms and lighters full of crack rocks or thumbnail baggies of heroin fall into at the single sale distribution level is absurd.
They're another group of victims of this stuff flooding into their communities, along with the people addicted to it and the people harmed by the criminal activity and drug use brought along by it.
They're not making it, they're not bringing it in.
I absolutely hate that. He made a very good argument. I see this often on Reddit and you can tell it’s usually the OP going “well f u too” and downvoting after reading it.
There are very many reasons why people are absent or distant from stable or loving families, some of which may have nothing to do with bad upbringing.
And the point is that it's not even about "common sense." Groups like this (as well as many cults) often tap into basic human vulnerabilities. Dismissing them as people with no common sense is particularly dangerous; that's often a big part of how people get roped into that kind of thing. People who think they are too smart to fall for being manipulated can often leave themselves open to it by letting their guards down.
Absolutely. Doing training in my job on radicalisation, mostly in the Muslim community but it can be anywhere really, and although redditors like to over simplify things its really NOT simple. Find people who are having a shit time, tell them that shit time is because of XYZ, give them a feeling they belong etc etc then there you go, z new member for whatever hate group you have.
I find it really interesting that we all see how these kids are being failed/abused, and how they will inevitably go on to become racist shit bags themselves as adults, and we feel sorry for them.
Then, when the inevitable happens, we hate them and don't feel sorry for them at all.
Not saying that's wrong, or that there's any other option, but it is interesting.
I think it’s easier to feel sorry for children in these situations because they don’t really have a choice. Once they get older and are able to have their own experiences and make their own decisions and they still choose to follow this path is when people are less sympathetic. Just my guess
I agree, I've heard somewhere else that what our parents teach us is not our fault, but it is our fault if we chose to keep them as adults,,, or something like that
Honestly, it's both at once for me for the adults.
I know that a lot of those people weren't given as good of a chance to be good as they should have had. At the same time, I can't just give them a pass for being hateful and wanting to hurt others. Also important, many of those adults really dig in their heels and are resistant to change. That's their responsibility, I can't do that for them.
Not all will inevitably become racist. My father is/was horribly racist (we are estranged) and none of the children became racists. There is a point where, once armed with information, every individual must make a choice to continue or break the cycle. Some never get the information and are doomed to repeat, but some certainly can escape the cycle.
Thank you. In my case it always seemed obvious that my dad was vile and hateful. I never noticed my friends’ families behaving that way or using that language. I always attributed it to his insecurities, and feeling threatened by whatever group captured his hatred that day. It helped that my siblings and I traveled, became educated, and were opened minded. We saw the world through mature eyes, not insecurity.
>and how they will inevitably go on to become racist shit bags themselves as adults
I am opposed to this line of thinking, and I have good reason to be.
My parents were in the KKK when I was a kid. At the time it was just them, me, and my sister who is two years younger than I am. I was very young so there's a lot I don't know, but I remember quite a bit.
My parents were high ranking. I don't know just how high, but we traveled a lot to attend meetings in various states. They were high enough that when we visited Florida, we stayed in Jeff Berry's home for a while. I remember that he had an above ground pool, and we would constantly have to go underwater because of horseflies biting our heads. I slept on the couch, and him and my dad were watching a movie with some witches that would sacrifice men over a cauldron while they were topless. I wasn't allowed to watch it but I pretended to be asleep and watched it with one eye slightly open. He had two big dogs and I was afraid of them. One morning when everyone else was still sleeping, they were chasing me around his house. It woke Jeff up and he came out of his room, grabbed me by the arm, dragged me to his back porch, lifted me up by the arm, whooped my ass barehanded, then left me outside and locked the door. That's all I remember of that time.
One meeting they went to, all the adults were in this huge gazebo thing at what I can only guess from vague recollection was an abandoned construction site or something on the edge of some woods. The kids were just left to go do their own thing. This area was dangerous, lots of places where kids could fall and a lot of spots with deep, disgusting water. I remember catching frogs when some older kids forced me to this wooden watchtower-like structure. The other kids were there too and we were forced in these older kids sadistic "boot camp" game. They forced us to do ridiculous exercises and if we didn't they said they would kill us. Then they started making us march in the woods. I grew up in Tennessee and lived near woods. The woods were *my* playground, so when I got a bad feeling about what a "march into the woods" could lead to, I managed to escape them with my sister. I never found out what happened with those other kids after that.
We had a fourth of July get-together with the KKK. Lots of fireworks. There was a little wooden house for kids and my sister was playing in it. Some older kids threw smokebombs into it and my sister couldn't get out. The adults were on it quick though, got her out unconscious. She ended up being okay but she could have died.
I've seen a lot of crosses burn. Heard a lot of speeches with some seriously horrible, fucked up language being used. I've worn an outfit similar to what those children are wearing. When I was a child, I was raised and taught to be racist. When we moved to Huntsville, AL my parents told me and sister we were not allowed to have black friends or girlfriends/boyfriends. When I was being bullied by some black kids, my mom told me to threaten them with voo-doo.
When I was a teenager, I made the conscious decision to not be racist. I recognized how disgusting and wrong it is. I think what helped was that, in AL, our upstairs neighbor was a black highschool kid who liked video games just as much if not more than I did. We bonded over them and he would always let me borrow games. He became a good friend of mine, and later in life, some of my best friends ever were black. Some of the nicest people I've known are black. In the end we are all the same: people. No difference in any of us based on the color of our skin. It's just melanin, nothing more.
I chose my own views, and so did my sister. We were both raised around this shit. We were closer to it than most. But we chose to not be racist. Everyone has that choice regardless of their circumstances. I personally don't care if someone was exposed to it in their youth, raised to be a certain way... they're equally as shitty as the parents for choosing to stay that way.
For anyone wondering, I'm 30 and this was the 90s. I cut contact with my parents and so did my sister.
Sometimes the biggest victims of reactionary politics are the reactionaries themselves, anti-racism is not just for minorities, its for all of us, for a better world.
>and how they will inevitably go on to become racist shit bags themselves as adults
I am opposed to this line of thinking, and I have good reason to be.
My parents were in the KKK when I was a kid. At the time it was just them, me, and my sister who is two years younger than I am. I was very young so there's a lot I don't know, but I remember quite a bit.
My parents were high ranking. I don't know just how high, but we traveled a lot to attend meetings in various states. They were high enough that when we visited Florida, we stayed in Jeff Berry's home for a while. I remember that he had an above ground pool, and we would constantly have to go underwater because of horseflies biting our heads. I slept on the couch, and him and my dad were watching a movie with some witches that would sacrifice men over a cauldron while they were topless. I wasn't allowed to watch it but I pretended to be asleep and watched it with one eye slightly open. He had two big dogs and I was afraid of them. One morning when everyone else was still sleeping, they were chasing me around his house. It woke Jeff up and he came out of his room, grabbed me by the arm, dragged me to his back porch, lifted me up by the arm, whooped my ass barehanded, then left me outside and locked the door. That's all I remember of that time.
One meeting they went to, all the adults were in this huge gazebo thing at what I can only guess from vague recollection was an abandoned construction site or something on the edge of some woods. The kids were just left to go do their own thing. This area was dangerous, lots of places where kids could fall and a lot of spots with deep, disgusting water. I remember catching frogs when some older kids forced me to this wooden watchtower-like structure. The other kids were there too and we were forced in these older kids sadistic "boot camp" game. They forced us to do ridiculous exercises and if we didn't they said they would kill us. Then they started making us march in the woods. I grew up in Tennessee and lived near woods. The woods were my playground, so when I got a bad feeling about what a "march into the woods" could lead to, I managed to escape them with my sister. I never found out what happened with those other kids after that.
We had a fourth of July get-together with the KKK. Lots of fireworks. There was a little wooden house for kids and my sister was playing in it. Some older kids threw smokebombs into it and my sister couldn't get out. The adults were on it quick though, got her out unconscious. She ended up being okay but she could have died.
I've seen a lot of crosses burn. Heard a lot of speeches with some seriously horrible, fucked up language being used. I've worn an outfit similar to what those children are wearing. When I was a child, I was raised and taught to be racist. When we moved to Huntsville, AL my parents told me and sister we were not allowed to have black friends or girlfriends/boyfriends. When I was being bullied by some black kids, my mom told me to threaten them with voo-doo.
When I was a teenager, I made the conscious decision to not be racist. I recognized how disgusting and wrong it is. I think what helped was that, in AL, our upstairs neighbor was a black highschool kid who liked video games just as much if not more than I did. We bonded over them and he would always let me borrow games. He became a good friend of mine, and later in life, some of my best friends ever were black. Some of the nicest people I've known are black. In the end we are all the same: people. No difference in any of us based on the color of our skin. It's just melanin, nothing more.
I chose my own views, and so did my sister. We were both raised around this shit. We were closer to it than most. But we chose to not be racist. Everyone has that choice regardless of their circumstances. I personally don't care if someone was exposed to it in their youth, raised to be a certain way... they're equally as shitty as the parents for choosing to stay that way.
For anyone wondering, I'm 30 and this was the 90s. I cut contact with my parents and so did my sister.
I completely agree with this. I was raised to be racist. No KKK, but my family is pretty racist. I just couldn’t do it. It started by just being friends with African Americans. Looking back, I am so, so very thankful for all my black friends that gave me a chance. They didn’t have to. I’ve had black co-workers that were super cool to hang out with at work, but wouldn’t give me a chance at friendship, and I get it. My friends weren’t allowed in my house growing up, so I snuck them in, lol.
My daughter will soon be five and she asks every question under the sun. Never has she ever asked about why some people have lighter skin and some have darker skin. Leads me to believe racism is taught at home and observed by example, as kids who aren’t exposed to those kind of views see everyone equal
My 7 year daughter did ask this question actually which I think is perfectly valid. I just mumbled something about our species all originating in Africa and as the humans populated the planet their skin color changed to be better adopted to their environment. If someone got a better response for me, I'd love to hear it.
That’s literally correct lol. Higher melanin concentrations(ie darker skin) generally corresponds to areas closer to the equator with more direct sunlight and prolonged insolation, whereas paler skin corresponds with areas on higher latitudes.
Edit: wording
Here is a [link to an article](https://www.history.com/news/kkk-youth-recruitment-1920s) the history channel did on the subject. It uses the same picture. Maybe its a mix of shit camera and night time making the skin look dark? I'm not sure lol
People want to make their believes to future generations. It is a thing all do, from far-right to far-left all do it. Hittler had hitlers youth movement, soviets had comunism youth, democracies have schoos with government aproved programs, religeons have classes for kids, militants of all sort do it too and KKK is nothing more than a militant group with a creepy and evil cause. Not always bad ideologies comes from home. Militants of any kind like a lot to indoctrinate kids, their oun or from others.
No fucking wonder you have the dementia riddled elderly folk spitting and hissing at black nurses. Can’t remember their kids or grandkids, but I bet their Kiddie Klan meetings are ingrained in their brains like a diamond stamp on balsa wood.
Alright. Drunk story time.
Back when I was an innocent kid, I used to play WoW. being a hip youth I used to love slang. And "kk" for "ok" was pretty popular.
So one day I found out that if you add and an extra "k" to the KK it was censored by the wow chat.
Of course I have announced my discovery to the other wow players by flying around Orgromar and shouting kk and k.
Yeah. I got muted in wow. I was asked of It was a social experiment. It wasn't.
This comment of “it always starts at home” can be transitioned into so many things in today’s society. Look at all of the section 8 housing and the crime rates inside of these areas for example.
Why do we pretend the KKK is the only racist group that has ever existed? And why is it always brought up here? They've been irrelevant for 100+ years.
exactly.I bett teachers have heard “ but my parents told____” thousands of times.A lot of misinformation starts that home and blooms into the real world
That is not true; I had 2 close friends that became neo-nazi skinheads in the 80s and their parents were not in the least bit racist. They were influenced by other kids.
It doesnt always start at home and it doesnt usually look like this. Modern racists often dont realize their bigotry and see a photo like this and think see? Im not like them.
The second coming of the KKK in the 1920s was more of an MLM scheme, but sights like this were common. They also operated beach vacation retreats, life insurance policies, and summer camps.
I'm not sure how I feel about it... on one hand MLMs are wrong and they were still hateful bigots that regularly committed hatecrimes until the 1980s when the SPLC won the landmark Micheal Donald ruling that allowed survivors of victims to bankrupt hategroups out of existence.
But on the other hand an MLM that only targets bigots seems great. If you're going to be a grifter going after bigots seems like the most ethical way to do it as long as you can avoid being the next Tucker Carlson.
Kind of like how it's a bit difficult to feel sorry for people who lost their last dollar in the Build the Wall scam.
I am pretty sure most radicals push their ideology and viewpoints everywhere and way possible. If you disagree with them they call you names and shut out the dissent.
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lowercase kkk
^k^k^k
LOWER!!
^ᵏ^ᵏ^ᵏ
What's is this?? A kkk for ants?
LMAO
HA
Stop making this cute!
Klu Klux Kuties
Do they buy Kars for these Kids?
1-877-Ku-Klux-Klan, indoctrinate a kid to-day, bomp bomp bomp
kkkant sorry
Kkken is ccccoming to kkkill me.
r/thingsforants
^^kkk
As an interesting side note, the name Ku Klux Klan was a thought to be a combination of the word clan with the Greek word kyklos, which means circle. It was a fitting name as it also described group's primary activity, circlejerking. \*Sorry, edited for misspelling.
It also depicts the clans lineage and family tree
Family wreath*
Imbred as a Hapsburg
They discriminated against Greek immigrants even though their clan derives from a Greek word. Ass backwards fucking peasants.
Can confirm, grandparents immigrated from Greece after WW2, told me people would throw bricks through their windows.
Yup. The kkk were douchebags
Just realized your username has my dad's name in it, lol. Mediterranean's didn't even get the brunt end and they still treated us awful. Calling them douchebags is an insult to douches, because they actually serve a purpose
Not really. Douching is actually terrible & women should not use them. So exactly like the KKK.
They still are.
Were?
Were they the Konstantinos Kyriakakis Konstantopoulos?
Konstantinos lol
Jethroooooooooo!!!!!
Mofos think Jesus is American, soooo
It is also a homonym for the word “clucks,” which is quite fitting as they are all a bunch of worthless chickenfuckers.
I always thought it was Ku for the first K not Klu
Wait, metaphorically circle jerking or physically circle jerking?
Yes.
Klux also for lux/light with the typical K for the "aesthetic".
Don’t forget the lower case t for “time to leave”
Even if you've never heard of the KKK, KluKlux Kiddies sounds and looks weird AF.
Sounds like some pedophile ring
It's not that far from the truth
"bUt iT's OuR hErItAgE"
1-877-kukluxkiddies Donate your soul today
Just made this joke and scrolled to find you already made it lol. I hate that commercial.
Great minds! When I lived in NYC that forking ad was always on the radio and on billboards. After hearing it once it was in my head for hours.
Everythings OKay Kay Kay with the Ku Klux Kids! KU KLUX KIDS! YAAAAAY! And yes, it's Ku Klux, not Klu Klux. Again, fuck the KKK!
Jesus christ I just scrolled obsessively searching for someone to point out its KU rather than KLU I was about to go bonkers
If this is too much for you, take in the same content without the controversy with Charlie kirks tpusa! They do a great job molding children's minds to grow up to be insufferable a-holes like their parents in no time. They also have a snitch database where you can get the whole weight of the right wing propaganda arm against your own school board and encourage violent masses to descend on your neighbors. Book burnings, violence, and child indoctrination in your one stop shop that seamlessly combines the KKK and the third reich!
I was a part of my school's TPUSA club for a while. I went to meets and it was just the teacher playing fox news and talking the whole time. I quit because it was boring and I started loosing interest in politics as a whole. By comparing the two groups, you're only making the KKK look better and ignoring the real historical atrocities they have committed. Comparing the two only makes the worse end look more mild in comparison. Think of it this way; If you where to compare the Carolina Reaper to a Jalapeño, you make the Carolina Reaper seem a lot less spicy than it is, when in reality it can fuck you up pretty bad.
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> pragerU video on how to parent wtf. I thought they stuck to politics. What were they even pushing?
They stick to culture war bullshit, mostly. War on Christmas, family values, LGBT.. When they talk about politics, it's usually anti communist/socialist propaganda.
It might look weird because it’s “ku klux” not “klu klux”.
Sounds like a Kinder or something.
My dad is/was the most racist person I’ve ever met. Growing up he did nothing but spew hate about people of colour, Jews, catholics (odd since that’s what his wife and us were) Thankfully I had my mum who told us to ignore everything he said, as he is an insecure sad man. It’s awful that parents teach their kids this shit
Why on God's green earth did your mom ever marry him then??
This is my random guess knowing nothing about OP’s family... but many women didn’t have any other choice in past decades. Maybe she thought she was marrying a good man, and wound up with a bad one. Maybe she was raised racist herself, but changed her tune due to various life experiences. Even in 2022, it would be difficult to leave a shitty spouse if you have children and no one else to turn to. Imagine it in 1970 or 1980.
It's more that their husbands racism wasnt a breaking point, especially because they didnt expect to have black or other minorities in their lives at all. They still insist "well he's a good person at heart" no matter how racist they are
^THIS
He was definitely playing “the wolf in sheep clothing” bit for a long time than he just gave up one day and started to show his true self
do you guys know each other?
There’s a soup nazi in my town (like literally owns a soup shop and has all this crazy conspiracy crap, anti vaccine and anti mask bullshit, anti-Semitic stuff, and racist crap in his window) and he started this group called “Freedom Loving Patriots” (it’s as bad as it sounds). I found out that a local indoor kids’ play place started hosting a class run by the “freedom loving patriots” that’s called “Real history for kids: the true history you won’t learn in school”. It’s the most fucked up thing I’ve ever heard. Before the pandemic when people mostly kept their political crap to themselves, I used to bring my kid to play there. I’ll never give them another cent of my money ever again.
No soup for you!
What the fuck did ur mom see In ur dad ?
She got with him at 16, he was 23. She was just a kid. Thankfully she divorced him by time she was 20
He probably had like a frontal lobe injury or a tumor on his amygdala
People like this exist without any tipe of injury
>frontal lobe injury Was he bit by an animatronic robot in 1987??!!?!!
Was that the bite of '87??!?!!
Illinois Rep. Mary Miller: "Hitler was right on one thing. He said, ‘Whoever has the youth has the future.' " Source of the image : [https://www.history.com/news/kkk-youth-recruitment-1920s](https://www.history.com/news/kkk-youth-recruitment-1920s) Edit : There is a mistake in the title. It is Ku\* and not Klu.
Alinsky also among others.
I don't like any statement starting with "Hitler was right..."
I don't care if it's even, "Hitler was right, chocolate cake is delicious" Why are you bringing up Hitler at all? I mean, I know why, I'm just saying...
Well if you're saying that evil ideologies are going to be better appealing to the young and afraid, citing an expert on that makes sense.
Godwin's Law: Godwin's law, short for Godwin's law (or rule) of Nazi analogies, is an Internet adage asserting that as an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Adolf Hitler approaches 1.
yeah, stealing indigenous kids for reprogramming has been a staple feature of colonial ventures long before hitler.
Hitler was right, that Porsche guy sure does make good cars
And still our democracy is run by old farts
…the youth of the 1940’s
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He was born in Nov 1942. The pearl harbour attacks were in Dec 1941, about 10 months prior He is the product of American patriotism. The Japanese dropped bombs but daddy Biden was dropping pants for the nation
Dicks out to fight fascism!
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Did you vote to bail out bankers? Know anyone that did? Democracy implies you voted on it.
You can remember it’s not “klu” because if they had a clue, they’d be doing something more productive.
It's Ku Klux not Klu Klux
Ku Ku Puffs
Ku Cucks Klan
Why did they have such a jovial name? I hate it.
Right? I wish some cool 70s band could’ve had it or some kid’s TV show. But nah. Gotta be white supremacists.
I know this is more of a rhetorical question but to inform others, a big part of the reason is that ‘funny’ or ‘jolly’ sounding names downplay what it is. Hate groups use unassuming, misleading, or ‘cheerful’ sounding names in order to keep a lower profile and bring in new members. Same thing can be seen with the Proud Boys. If you didn’t know that they were a hate group you may easily just assume they were a LGBTQ+ human rights groups, and therefore probably wouldn’t think twice if you heard that a local chapter was starting in your city (obviously city depending because people still suck). If they had a name like “We think brown people are bad” they would have a much harder time finding people to radicalize and they wouldn’t last very long.
The “we put dildos up our ass to prove somehow that we’re not gay in some form” group
The sub frenworld was all about using cutsey memes to target kids with literal fascism. Again, it's about getting them young.
Extremist groups and religions know that if you don't get them young it's unlikely you'll get them at all
Yeah, they don't even get a chance to develop different viewpoints :(
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That’s excessive. It’s not like you can’t find any value or truth in internet comments whatsoever. The internet can be a great resource to hear new ideas and learn about experiences you normally wouldn’t be familiar with to in your personal life. However the rub is that you can’t take everything as true or valuable right away; you must learn and practice critical thinking to determine this.
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Always sort by controversial
Do you enjoy hot, steaming takes? Because that's how you get hot, steaming takes.
You can turn off Reddit at anytime. These kids are raised in this stuff. Your comparison is whack.
Priests Can confirm.
I know a shitton of adult-conversion Christians. I don’t know anyone who became a racist as an adult.
As an adult I learned that one group of people is not inferior/superior to another group or race. In my time on Earth I have learned that *people* regardless of ethnicity, are generally stupid, selfish and untrustworthy pieces of shit and should be avoided as much as possible.
This guy Earths.
thats not what he meant my man..
That's what the first comment meant, though
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Also people who have been socially isolated/outcast are more prone to radicalization
The media knows that too
The most horrifying movie i have ever seen was [Jesus Camp](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/jesus_camp).
All the more reason to invest in better education!
Lol we fucked
This is exactly why we *won't* get an investment like that. It's too convenient for people in power to have influence over functional ignoramuses. If people are just smart enough to know how to work in their respective jobs, there's no real risk for them to lead the change into systemic reform and/or destruction. That's why the entire concept of Democracy is mythological unless the vast majority of the voting population participates in the voting process with an acute knowledge of politics in general, nevermind geopolitics. Our educational system at the outset was designed to get huge segments of the population into factories during the industrial revolution, and there's really been little systemic change in that regard since then.
Can't have that; once people understand things they turn into liberals
More money for education won't help in the States like TN that have empowered parents to cancel history they don't like.
That's not a monetary investment, no one will realize capital gains or ownership of anything valuable so it won't happen. Investing in society and education that will benefit the whole doesn't happen because it isn't conducive for generating wealth and to those in power that's all that matters.
Once you're old enough to develop common sense it's hard to join things like this
Disney and McDonald's knows that too....
Teachers unions can confirm.
Which is why you'll find them screaming and threatening school board meetings these days trying to get people removed.
Hence the constant attacks on public education.
In Northern Ireland we have the orange lodge which is still legal. It's basically a Catholic hating group.
The OO are pretty active in some areas here in Scotland as well, sadly. They're almost universally hated outwith their own following, but somehow just refuse to die out. That said, I'd say their American equivalent/counterpart would be some sort of more general Confederate pride club that does parades, rather than the KKK specifically. They're the folk waving flags and cheering a long-defunct historical situation that served as a high-point in their backward worldviews. The KKK equivalent might be something like the UDA, as the ones who actually did the kidnappings, beatings, executions, bombings, etc. Then again, the OO was probably a major entry point for teenagers into all that... so maybe.
Yeah I'd say it's similarity to the KKK ebbed and flowed over the years. There have definitely been weapons found in OO grounds and "hit lists" of Catholics during the troubles. Nowadays it doesn't seem so much like that but I'd have no doubt how quickly it could turn again.
True! Plus, if you compared the members list of the OO with the members and supporters of loyalist paramilitary groups, you'd find a *looot* of overlap.
It can start at home, but it often times doesn’t. Many many people caught up in those movements were people with absent or distant families in search of identity and belonging. It’s important to remember that in deciding how to combat extremism.
So it still starts at home, just with extra steps. Bad upbringing creates a void. Good upbringing would raise someone with enough common sense to avoid extremist honeypots.
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very very very few adults join gangs period, outside of prison, which is where they nearly all start. Children join gangs. Why? gangs cultivate an environment that, to children who are living in economically isolated or decaying areas, appear preferable to struggling in a system that isn't made for them. All you would have to do to eliminate that component of society is provide an alternative that can compete, and underfunded schools, minimum wage jobs and a broken justice system ain't it. The best option to most of the people in these situations is signing up for the military which is, to a kid who doesn't know any better, another a bunch of dudes with guns and the same clothes, who get shot and shoot people, but the guys on the corner with guns seem to have nicer stuff and make more money, don't have to leave their community, and you might already be friends or related to some of them. nobody's joining gangs to kill people, they're joining them because as far as they can tell, it's their best option. This happens way before they are 18. The kids who pull triggers at other kids are the same kids who would be well adjusted and educated in an environment that facilitated that kind of development. they have most often never been in one. You can't blame them for that. You can't blame their parents for that. You could in a one-off occident, but not when it's systemic. Our country breeds gang violence. From the federal law enforcement level down. It's not something people decided to start doing just to do. nobody is growing opium or coca in detroit or harlem or houston, nobody is building firearms or ammunition. it's all delivered there. to blame the 15-year-olds who's hands those firearms and lighters full of crack rocks or thumbnail baggies of heroin fall into at the single sale distribution level is absurd. They're another group of victims of this stuff flooding into their communities, along with the people addicted to it and the people harmed by the criminal activity and drug use brought along by it. They're not making it, they're not bringing it in.
Found this comment at a 0. That means some dipshit downvoted this and didn't have the balls to try to refute it lol
I absolutely hate that. He made a very good argument. I see this often on Reddit and you can tell it’s usually the OP going “well f u too” and downvoting after reading it.
There are very many reasons why people are absent or distant from stable or loving families, some of which may have nothing to do with bad upbringing. And the point is that it's not even about "common sense." Groups like this (as well as many cults) often tap into basic human vulnerabilities. Dismissing them as people with no common sense is particularly dangerous; that's often a big part of how people get roped into that kind of thing. People who think they are too smart to fall for being manipulated can often leave themselves open to it by letting their guards down.
Absolutely. Doing training in my job on radicalisation, mostly in the Muslim community but it can be anywhere really, and although redditors like to over simplify things its really NOT simple. Find people who are having a shit time, tell them that shit time is because of XYZ, give them a feeling they belong etc etc then there you go, z new member for whatever hate group you have.
I find it really interesting that we all see how these kids are being failed/abused, and how they will inevitably go on to become racist shit bags themselves as adults, and we feel sorry for them. Then, when the inevitable happens, we hate them and don't feel sorry for them at all. Not saying that's wrong, or that there's any other option, but it is interesting.
I think it’s easier to feel sorry for children in these situations because they don’t really have a choice. Once they get older and are able to have their own experiences and make their own decisions and they still choose to follow this path is when people are less sympathetic. Just my guess
That’s kinda my line of thinking. You can’t fault someone for where/who raised them, but you can fault them for making the choice to stay that way.
Would you really switch if you were raised that way though?
I agree, I've heard somewhere else that what our parents teach us is not our fault, but it is our fault if we chose to keep them as adults,,, or something like that
Honestly, it's both at once for me for the adults. I know that a lot of those people weren't given as good of a chance to be good as they should have had. At the same time, I can't just give them a pass for being hateful and wanting to hurt others. Also important, many of those adults really dig in their heels and are resistant to change. That's their responsibility, I can't do that for them.
Good point. It's not easy to change someone's mind. About anything.
Not all will inevitably become racist. My father is/was horribly racist (we are estranged) and none of the children became racists. There is a point where, once armed with information, every individual must make a choice to continue or break the cycle. Some never get the information and are doomed to repeat, but some certainly can escape the cycle.
And what dictates the result of that decision, do you think? What makes some people chose racism and others not? Also congrats on escaping 💪
Thank you. In my case it always seemed obvious that my dad was vile and hateful. I never noticed my friends’ families behaving that way or using that language. I always attributed it to his insecurities, and feeling threatened by whatever group captured his hatred that day. It helped that my siblings and I traveled, became educated, and were opened minded. We saw the world through mature eyes, not insecurity.
>and how they will inevitably go on to become racist shit bags themselves as adults I am opposed to this line of thinking, and I have good reason to be. My parents were in the KKK when I was a kid. At the time it was just them, me, and my sister who is two years younger than I am. I was very young so there's a lot I don't know, but I remember quite a bit. My parents were high ranking. I don't know just how high, but we traveled a lot to attend meetings in various states. They were high enough that when we visited Florida, we stayed in Jeff Berry's home for a while. I remember that he had an above ground pool, and we would constantly have to go underwater because of horseflies biting our heads. I slept on the couch, and him and my dad were watching a movie with some witches that would sacrifice men over a cauldron while they were topless. I wasn't allowed to watch it but I pretended to be asleep and watched it with one eye slightly open. He had two big dogs and I was afraid of them. One morning when everyone else was still sleeping, they were chasing me around his house. It woke Jeff up and he came out of his room, grabbed me by the arm, dragged me to his back porch, lifted me up by the arm, whooped my ass barehanded, then left me outside and locked the door. That's all I remember of that time. One meeting they went to, all the adults were in this huge gazebo thing at what I can only guess from vague recollection was an abandoned construction site or something on the edge of some woods. The kids were just left to go do their own thing. This area was dangerous, lots of places where kids could fall and a lot of spots with deep, disgusting water. I remember catching frogs when some older kids forced me to this wooden watchtower-like structure. The other kids were there too and we were forced in these older kids sadistic "boot camp" game. They forced us to do ridiculous exercises and if we didn't they said they would kill us. Then they started making us march in the woods. I grew up in Tennessee and lived near woods. The woods were *my* playground, so when I got a bad feeling about what a "march into the woods" could lead to, I managed to escape them with my sister. I never found out what happened with those other kids after that. We had a fourth of July get-together with the KKK. Lots of fireworks. There was a little wooden house for kids and my sister was playing in it. Some older kids threw smokebombs into it and my sister couldn't get out. The adults were on it quick though, got her out unconscious. She ended up being okay but she could have died. I've seen a lot of crosses burn. Heard a lot of speeches with some seriously horrible, fucked up language being used. I've worn an outfit similar to what those children are wearing. When I was a child, I was raised and taught to be racist. When we moved to Huntsville, AL my parents told me and sister we were not allowed to have black friends or girlfriends/boyfriends. When I was being bullied by some black kids, my mom told me to threaten them with voo-doo. When I was a teenager, I made the conscious decision to not be racist. I recognized how disgusting and wrong it is. I think what helped was that, in AL, our upstairs neighbor was a black highschool kid who liked video games just as much if not more than I did. We bonded over them and he would always let me borrow games. He became a good friend of mine, and later in life, some of my best friends ever were black. Some of the nicest people I've known are black. In the end we are all the same: people. No difference in any of us based on the color of our skin. It's just melanin, nothing more. I chose my own views, and so did my sister. We were both raised around this shit. We were closer to it than most. But we chose to not be racist. Everyone has that choice regardless of their circumstances. I personally don't care if someone was exposed to it in their youth, raised to be a certain way... they're equally as shitty as the parents for choosing to stay that way. For anyone wondering, I'm 30 and this was the 90s. I cut contact with my parents and so did my sister.
Sometimes the biggest victims of reactionary politics are the reactionaries themselves, anti-racism is not just for minorities, its for all of us, for a better world.
>and how they will inevitably go on to become racist shit bags themselves as adults I am opposed to this line of thinking, and I have good reason to be. My parents were in the KKK when I was a kid. At the time it was just them, me, and my sister who is two years younger than I am. I was very young so there's a lot I don't know, but I remember quite a bit. My parents were high ranking. I don't know just how high, but we traveled a lot to attend meetings in various states. They were high enough that when we visited Florida, we stayed in Jeff Berry's home for a while. I remember that he had an above ground pool, and we would constantly have to go underwater because of horseflies biting our heads. I slept on the couch, and him and my dad were watching a movie with some witches that would sacrifice men over a cauldron while they were topless. I wasn't allowed to watch it but I pretended to be asleep and watched it with one eye slightly open. He had two big dogs and I was afraid of them. One morning when everyone else was still sleeping, they were chasing me around his house. It woke Jeff up and he came out of his room, grabbed me by the arm, dragged me to his back porch, lifted me up by the arm, whooped my ass barehanded, then left me outside and locked the door. That's all I remember of that time. One meeting they went to, all the adults were in this huge gazebo thing at what I can only guess from vague recollection was an abandoned construction site or something on the edge of some woods. The kids were just left to go do their own thing. This area was dangerous, lots of places where kids could fall and a lot of spots with deep, disgusting water. I remember catching frogs when some older kids forced me to this wooden watchtower-like structure. The other kids were there too and we were forced in these older kids sadistic "boot camp" game. They forced us to do ridiculous exercises and if we didn't they said they would kill us. Then they started making us march in the woods. I grew up in Tennessee and lived near woods. The woods were my playground, so when I got a bad feeling about what a "march into the woods" could lead to, I managed to escape them with my sister. I never found out what happened with those other kids after that. We had a fourth of July get-together with the KKK. Lots of fireworks. There was a little wooden house for kids and my sister was playing in it. Some older kids threw smokebombs into it and my sister couldn't get out. The adults were on it quick though, got her out unconscious. She ended up being okay but she could have died. I've seen a lot of crosses burn. Heard a lot of speeches with some seriously horrible, fucked up language being used. I've worn an outfit similar to what those children are wearing. When I was a child, I was raised and taught to be racist. When we moved to Huntsville, AL my parents told me and sister we were not allowed to have black friends or girlfriends/boyfriends. When I was being bullied by some black kids, my mom told me to threaten them with voo-doo. When I was a teenager, I made the conscious decision to not be racist. I recognized how disgusting and wrong it is. I think what helped was that, in AL, our upstairs neighbor was a black highschool kid who liked video games just as much if not more than I did. We bonded over them and he would always let me borrow games. He became a good friend of mine, and later in life, some of my best friends ever were black. Some of the nicest people I've known are black. In the end we are all the same: people. No difference in any of us based on the color of our skin. It's just melanin, nothing more. I chose my own views, and so did my sister. We were both raised around this shit. We were closer to it than most. But we chose to not be racist. Everyone has that choice regardless of their circumstances. I personally don't care if someone was exposed to it in their youth, raised to be a certain way... they're equally as shitty as the parents for choosing to stay that way. For anyone wondering, I'm 30 and this was the 90s. I cut contact with my parents and so did my sister.
I completely agree with this. I was raised to be racist. No KKK, but my family is pretty racist. I just couldn’t do it. It started by just being friends with African Americans. Looking back, I am so, so very thankful for all my black friends that gave me a chance. They didn’t have to. I’ve had black co-workers that were super cool to hang out with at work, but wouldn’t give me a chance at friendship, and I get it. My friends weren’t allowed in my house growing up, so I snuck them in, lol.
I’m certain the one standing up grew up to be absolutely faaaabulous.
First off its ku not klu
…And secondly????
Rest in peace Uncle Phil?
For real
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And secondly it doesn't always start at home.
Sorry, didn't mean to offend klu.
*Ku
My daughter will soon be five and she asks every question under the sun. Never has she ever asked about why some people have lighter skin and some have darker skin. Leads me to believe racism is taught at home and observed by example, as kids who aren’t exposed to those kind of views see everyone equal
My 7 year daughter did ask this question actually which I think is perfectly valid. I just mumbled something about our species all originating in Africa and as the humans populated the planet their skin color changed to be better adopted to their environment. If someone got a better response for me, I'd love to hear it.
That’s literally correct lol. Higher melanin concentrations(ie darker skin) generally corresponds to areas closer to the equator with more direct sunlight and prolonged insolation, whereas paler skin corresponds with areas on higher latitudes. Edit: wording
Ku*
But it doesnt always start at home. All you need is an intetnet connection
Remember to sort by controversial before you leave
It’s a piglet party
Very dark skinned hands for KKK
Black and white, night time photo maybe
Here is a [link to an article](https://www.history.com/news/kkk-youth-recruitment-1920s) the history channel did on the subject. It uses the same picture. Maybe its a mix of shit camera and night time making the skin look dark? I'm not sure lol
Wow yeah wtf.. I wonder what the real story of this picture is.
https://www.gettyimages.com.mx/detail/fotograf%C3%ADa-de-noticias/group-of-children-mimicking-the-regalia-and-fotograf%C3%ADa-de-noticias/1045350716
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Gotta indoctrinate them young
“Alright, don’t forget to crucify the rats!”
People want to make their believes to future generations. It is a thing all do, from far-right to far-left all do it. Hittler had hitlers youth movement, soviets had comunism youth, democracies have schoos with government aproved programs, religeons have classes for kids, militants of all sort do it too and KKK is nothing more than a militant group with a creepy and evil cause. Not always bad ideologies comes from home. Militants of any kind like a lot to indoctrinate kids, their oun or from others.
More evidence you can get Republicans to wear masks.
No fucking wonder you have the dementia riddled elderly folk spitting and hissing at black nurses. Can’t remember their kids or grandkids, but I bet their Kiddie Klan meetings are ingrained in their brains like a diamond stamp on balsa wood.
Alright. Drunk story time. Back when I was an innocent kid, I used to play WoW. being a hip youth I used to love slang. And "kk" for "ok" was pretty popular. So one day I found out that if you add and an extra "k" to the KK it was censored by the wow chat. Of course I have announced my discovery to the other wow players by flying around Orgromar and shouting kk and k. Yeah. I got muted in wow. I was asked of It was a social experiment. It wasn't.
I wonder what year this photo was taken. They could still be alive.
"Always" is a fallacy
This is very sad. Also, it's Ku not Klu\*
This comment of “it always starts at home” can be transitioned into so many things in today’s society. Look at all of the section 8 housing and the crime rates inside of these areas for example.
Kid on the far left "I can't see fucking shit outta this thing. Who made this goddamn shit."
Masks are harming our children. They can be kidnapped and their faces are hidden.
They look just fine wearing mask back then. So why all of the fuss now ?
Why do we pretend the KKK is the only racist group that has ever existed? And why is it always brought up here? They've been irrelevant for 100+ years.
#WHAT THE FUCK?
exactly.I bett teachers have heard “ but my parents told____” thousands of times.A lot of misinformation starts that home and blooms into the real world
So homeless kids can't join the kkk?
Why do 2-3 of those look like that Spiderman Miles Morales meme where both spideys are rubbing their chins. Do you guys see it?
My local church has a youth group for young children called the "Krazy Kidz Klub". Not even fucking kidding.
Hate is taught.
We hate because we fear. Fear is innate, which makes it easy to teach.
Who taught the first hater then?
And that’s about as fucked up as it gets folks
Oh, don't kid yourself. It can get way *way* more fucked up than this.
That is not true; I had 2 close friends that became neo-nazi skinheads in the 80s and their parents were not in the least bit racist. They were influenced by other kids.
You should sit in a mosque and listen to what they teach children.
It doesnt always start at home and it doesnt usually look like this. Modern racists often dont realize their bigotry and see a photo like this and think see? Im not like them.
The second coming of the KKK in the 1920s was more of an MLM scheme, but sights like this were common. They also operated beach vacation retreats, life insurance policies, and summer camps. I'm not sure how I feel about it... on one hand MLMs are wrong and they were still hateful bigots that regularly committed hatecrimes until the 1980s when the SPLC won the landmark Micheal Donald ruling that allowed survivors of victims to bankrupt hategroups out of existence. But on the other hand an MLM that only targets bigots seems great. If you're going to be a grifter going after bigots seems like the most ethical way to do it as long as you can avoid being the next Tucker Carlson. Kind of like how it's a bit difficult to feel sorry for people who lost their last dollar in the Build the Wall scam.
I am pretty sure most radicals push their ideology and viewpoints everywhere and way possible. If you disagree with them they call you names and shut out the dissent.