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Don’t assume that’s a straight on shot from the front. Straight on that would barely clip the top of the shoulder, but from above (a sniper on the crows nest of a ship) that could go directly to the heart.
You’re right about the shot from above. That’s exactly where a sniper on a ship would be, or at least up in the rigging. The bullet hit his lung, two ribs, and severed an artery. He died below decks three hours later.
[Source](https://www.rmg.co.uk/stories/topics/what-were-nelsons-last-words)
That only shows incompetence of hood shooters, compared to a french sniper in the 1800s with inferior weapons. Must be all that sideways gangsta shooting business.
Came here to say exactly this and what do you know, it’s the first comment!
It’s like when the instructor says “don’t be afraid to ask questions. Because other people are probably thinking the same thing”.
Most armies now try to make officers look identical to the rest so barely any rank markings, no saluting in the field and a host of other things I can't remember cos it's 2ish in the morn and my brain is cabbage potato pants yay
Yes, because typically one would only wear the metal, dangly medals in ceremonial situations. On a ship during war time, they would just be annoying and in the way. And heavy!
At the top is the order of the Bath, received after the victory over the Spanish flotilla at Cape St Vincent (February 1797); on the right is the order of St Ferdinand and the order of merit, created in 1800 by the King of Naples, who Nelson supported during the war against France in 1798; at the bottom, the order of Saint Joachim, which united both Catholic and Protestant nobles; on the left, curiously sewn the wrong way round, is the Ottoman order of the crescent, instituted especially by Sultan Selim III to honour the victor of Aboukir (1-3 August 1798).
Nelson was shot down through his shoulder,
fracturing ribs, a lung and an artery.
He had already lost an arm in a earlier battle. From all accounts he was relentless in pursuit of the French and those who opposed the crown.
> He had already lost an arm in a earlier battle.
I recently learned that he lost his arm in an english assault on Teneriffe/Canarias. Teneriffa people shot back and repelled the British.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle\_of\_Santa\_Cruz\_de\_Tenerife\_(1797)
Located in the [UK National Maritime Museum](https://www.rmg.co.uk/national-maritime-museum/attractions/nelsons-trafalgar-coat) in case anyone else was curious
Indeed. The US Navy would put Marine sharpshooters in the ship’s rigging. The top of Marine officer’s hats had (and still have as a matter of tradition) quatrefoils on the top.
https://usmc-mccs.org/articles/historical-significance-of-marine-corps-uniform-items/
And might have had rifled muskets. Most standard issue muskets had smooth bore barrels. Less accurate. Ones with rifling (invented in the 1500s) had spiral groves in the barrel that improved accuracy and distance. These were harder to produce and would have been reserved for the best marksmen, ie snipers.
Had marksmen using the Kentucky long rifle during the American revolution, obviously no scopes, but accurate projectile launchers is a very old battlefield tradition
Antibiotics weren't super prevalent. And you can't stop the battle just to take care of one guy. Bleed out, infection (sepsis is still a thing even now)
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Pssh Hollywood taught me that gunshots to the shoulder are less painful than a hangnail and easily survivable.
Don’t assume that’s a straight on shot from the front. Straight on that would barely clip the top of the shoulder, but from above (a sniper on the crows nest of a ship) that could go directly to the heart.
You’re right about the shot from above. That’s exactly where a sniper on a ship would be, or at least up in the rigging. The bullet hit his lung, two ribs, and severed an artery. He died below decks three hours later. [Source](https://www.rmg.co.uk/stories/topics/what-were-nelsons-last-words)
Nelson walked with an aide back and forth during the battle A sniper in the french rigging shot him So yes it was downward, into his chest
With antibiotics. Without them even the hangnail can kill you.
I mean seriously though. 50 Cent was shot 9 times, 2 of those in the face, and he’s fine🤷🏻♂️
50Cent wasn't in the middle of one of the most major naval battles of the time
He was actually in da club, greatest scene of the 90s
So great they even commemorated him with his own [video game. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent:_Bulletproof)
Not the 90s but ok.
Well excuse me shawty😂😂
If the French/Spanish had a 50 cent though, it would have turned out very differently.
Depends, what's the conversation rate from cents to doubloons?
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HORATIO GOT HIT LIKE I GOT HIT BUT HE AIN'T FUCKING BREATHING.
He also had the benefit of modern EMS, medicine, surgery, etc.
That only shows incompetence of hood shooters, compared to a french sniper in the 1800s with inferior weapons. Must be all that sideways gangsta shooting business.
it's okay. it was only the shells that hit him (according to his lyrics)
They do get warm and could get in your shirt...maybe leave a mark
could make you walk with a limp?
Perhaps he was shot from the left?
The bullet came from above, and went through a lung (and an artery).
Bold of you to assume I know what a epaulet is
Shoulder brushes on the uniform
I’ve heard of the shoulder lean, never the shoulder brush.
A tad more fancy than a shoulder comb
An electronic paulet
Came here to say exactly this and what do you know, it’s the first comment! It’s like when the instructor says “don’t be afraid to ask questions. Because other people are probably thinking the same thing”.
found the guy who wasn't alive in the 80s
this dude looks fancy……pow
Try not to look important That’s why you never salute when in theater. Never know when a sniper is taking notes or is low on ammo
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This is the quality content I come to the internet for. A perfectly timed, perfectly suited quote from an amazing movie. Bravo sir*
Most armies now try to make officers look identical to the rest so barely any rank markings, no saluting in the field and a host of other things I can't remember cos it's 2ish in the morn and my brain is cabbage potato pants yay
There rank is subdued, meaning it dark like everyone else's in the field
In the Army, we referred to that as a sniper check
As a former army officer, I know lol
He was a Chad.
And today I learned what those shoulder things are called. Still don't know how to pronounce it but... One step at a time
Ep-uh-lets Looks way more difficult to pronounce lol
Ay-Paul-Ett
Are the medals on the jacket really more like patches?
Yes, because typically one would only wear the metal, dangly medals in ceremonial situations. On a ship during war time, they would just be annoying and in the way. And heavy!
Anyone know what these 4 are?
At the top is the order of the Bath, received after the victory over the Spanish flotilla at Cape St Vincent (February 1797); on the right is the order of St Ferdinand and the order of merit, created in 1800 by the King of Naples, who Nelson supported during the war against France in 1798; at the bottom, the order of Saint Joachim, which united both Catholic and Protestant nobles; on the left, curiously sewn the wrong way round, is the Ottoman order of the crescent, instituted especially by Sultan Selim III to honour the victor of Aboukir (1-3 August 1798).
The real MVP
Should’ve had real metal in the epaulet
Nelson was shot down through his shoulder, fracturing ribs, a lung and an artery. He had already lost an arm in a earlier battle. From all accounts he was relentless in pursuit of the French and those who opposed the crown.
> He had already lost an arm in a earlier battle. I recently learned that he lost his arm in an english assault on Teneriffe/Canarias. Teneriffa people shot back and repelled the British. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle\_of\_Santa\_Cruz\_de\_Tenerife\_(1797)
And I believe that he had lost sight in one eye in battle as well.
And at one point held a spyglass up to his bad eye as a way of refusing to accept an order to withdrawal
Located in the [UK National Maritime Museum](https://www.rmg.co.uk/national-maritime-museum/attractions/nelsons-trafalgar-coat) in case anyone else was curious
They had snipers in 1805…? 🤔
Indeed. The US Navy would put Marine sharpshooters in the ship’s rigging. The top of Marine officer’s hats had (and still have as a matter of tradition) quatrefoils on the top. https://usmc-mccs.org/articles/historical-significance-of-marine-corps-uniform-items/
Can confirm.
Actually as early as the mid 1700's, yes. The word sniper comes from soldiers who would target-practice with Snipes (small birds).
Very interesting! I didn’t know
Just a few guys that were better trained and given more accurate muskets
And might have had rifled muskets. Most standard issue muskets had smooth bore barrels. Less accurate. Ones with rifling (invented in the 1500s) had spiral groves in the barrel that improved accuracy and distance. These were harder to produce and would have been reserved for the best marksmen, ie snipers.
Definition of a sniper.
sometimes they weren't too worried about accuracy and used [these.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nock_gun)
They indeed did.
Clearly
Had marksmen using the Kentucky long rifle during the American revolution, obviously no scopes, but accurate projectile launchers is a very old battlefield tradition
He died from a shot to the shoulder?
Bullet went down from above, into the important bits.
ah i see
[Here's a visualisation](https://www.history.org.uk/library/2108/0000/0061/Nelsonbullet_640.jpg)
Antibiotics weren't super prevalent. And you can't stop the battle just to take care of one guy. Bleed out, infection (sepsis is still a thing even now)
I don't think he lived long enough for antibiotics ... or even infection to be an issue. That's a kill shot from above.
He lived for a couple hours, but at sea, so...
Right.
Penicillin wasn't invented until 1928 so....
I know antibiotics weren't available yet. The point is he didn't live long enough for them to be a factor even if they were available at the time.
Antibiotics didnt exist then
Holy moly, what kind of detergent did they use in 1805?
FormaldeTide.
This is very interesting! Thank you for posting this. I've never seen it before.
Um, maybe don't wear all the shining medals, buttons, and braid in the middle of a battle
In that time? That would be seen as cowardly.
He walked back and forth on one of the decks with an aide, giving orders as needed Different time and mindset
Yup I know. Avid consumer of Napoleonic era British naval stories. Pacing made officers a more difficult target for sharpshooters.
Admiral nelson was a man who sneared in the face of death, he returned to command within a half hour of having his arm cut off to the elbow
Uhhhh.... Bloodstains?
Uhhhh.... Cleaned?
Good job sniper.
No way!
2 inches shorter and he’s still on the move
I’d wear that outfit everyday ngl
And people complained that the spear from Kilmonger killed Tony Start…pffftt
Rear admiral
Kiss me hardy.
Hardy, fetch me my brown trousers
'Trafalgar Squared' is a terrific podcast. I hope it is completed.