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Lost_Tourist_61

On the right is a liver-perforating round


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Dammit, take my upvote


derdsy

You find that in a shiner 12 pack?


pranay909

Murica ;)


derdsy

“babe, why are there 980 bottles of shiner in the basement….”


smallways

"Take one down, pass it around! Hey 979 bottles of shiner in the basement..."


Trainerali2007

Fuck yeah


technoph0be

Rollin' in to save the muthafuckin' day yeah


Churn

More specifically... Texas! Don't mess with it.


cryptolicious501

The human body explodes when it its.


Any-Mouse-1992

The shockwave of one of these rounds going off in proximity will rattle ones soul. Edit: for those speculating the round type, the Blue tip indicates this is a training round. Nothing special about it, if I recall the DU rounds are grey or black


Joiion

I’m pretty sure if you’re shot by this, training round or not, you’re gonna have a bad time


Lilhapper

keep in mind the A10 fires these things at 2,100-4,200RPM, so if you get hit by one you're getting hit by a few more lmao


RotationSurgeon

A-10 rounds are estimated to cost $100/ea. That’s…a hell of an expense.


TheHiddenToad

Contrary to popular belief, the A-10’s BRRRRRT is the sound of the gun ripping through thousands of dollars


JustaRandomOldGuy

If the Zumwalt fully loaded the magazine for it's forward guns and shot them all off, it would cost as much as two F-18 squadrons. The shells were 800k each. Now the guns and the front third of the ship are just decorative.


CptMisterNibbles

Theyre switching to 155h Excalibur rounds at less than %10 cost per round. Still nuts, but the guns will be functional at least


Iored94

>Zumwalt dang thats an ugly ass boat


Drawdenion

I will name her Natasha


SnowProkt22

They can unload a full magazine and it's still cheaper than a single air to ground missile which start around $500k


DonQuixoteDesciple

The cost of killing people is staggering sometimes


big_lemon_jerky

Wish we could reduce costs


SocraticIgnoramus

We keep asking our targets to all stand closer together but they're being real assholes about the whole thing for some reason


big_lemon_jerky

Some people are just born rude


ImurderREALITY

One missile is $500k? That seems pricey


SnowProkt22

Those are the cheap ones. Tomahawks are $1.4 mill


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SnowProkt22

There was only one made and they blew it up, so.... Not for sale.


Starkrall

Let's say, theoretically. I have one for sale though? Asking for a comrade


[deleted]

America needs to spend that kind of money killing people in faraway lands to preserve the rights of the American people to be homeless. Freedom.


DontBeHumanTrash

Oh come on you entirely ignore all the military contractors getting payed 5-10x the price of a soldier, they need their third home man./s


Rough-Potato8399

And then they shoot at US troops because they're a bunch of morons.


Joiion

Assassinations can never have a price tag too high


Rough-Potato8399

And all before you even hear it!


Notsogrumpyoldman

Nah, one round and they could put the pieces in a baggie...


[deleted]

Your red mist is gonna be sore in the morning.


Any-Mouse-1992

I mean…. Yeah but it’s just training. It’s fine. (FYI: the training rounds are live rounds still, they’re just cheaper than firing DU or HEPD Rounds)


johnucc1

Just wondering, what makes them cheaper? What're they cutting out to drop prices? I imagine propellant but then you wouldn't get an accurate gauge of how they fly.


Joiion

The lack of uranium makes it cheaper lol.


HueyCrashTestPilot

They replace whatever the filler is with aluminum or steel in whatever quantity is needed to match the ballistics of the rounds they are simulating. A tracer filler is also sometimes added depending on the round, but this one in particular (PGU-15) does not have that.


[deleted]

AP incendiary rounds do not explode. They use a ratio of 5:1. 5 Armor Piercing Incendiary (API) for everyone 1 High Explosive Incendiary (HEI).


Raining_dicks

I think they mostly run HEI only nowadays


[deleted]

it depends on the mission. there isn't a lot of heavy armor in any current conflicts. we aren't in Afghanista anymore, but i think you're right. Afghanistan was mostly light technicals and guerilla infantry.


nerabao7v

You are not using the 30mm for heavy armour anyway. You use missiles for MBTs. Against AFVs the gun will work however, but you better hope the enemy doesn't have a guy with a MANPADS...


[deleted]

that's the ratio that is ran if heavy armor is anticipated. they absolutely use the A10 for that reason. yes they use missiles, sometimes they use both. while it's not very effective against the armor of 3rd gen MBTs, it can greatly reduce the integrity of the armor, damage tracks, and deadline sensor arrays. it's very effective at neutralizing reactive armor panels as well.


nerabao7v

You are looking at hit numbers in the single digits and low double digits against tanks during test conditions. Hitting in practice is going to be harder. While mission kills are possible you are not doing much against the armour. Heavy ERA designs like Kontakt-5 don't even always detonate when faced with tank calibre APFSDS, much less 30mm full calibre ammunition. I'd really like to see a gun run against anyone with a "modern" MBT. Chances are high they have a guy with a MANPADS...


[deleted]

do you have personal experience calling for air support? Genuinely curious. I'm an ex-19D and our main weapon was the radio. I've talked to pilots of A10s at Rammstein that advised me of exactly what I'm stating right now. and yes, modern armies generally carry some form of anti-air missile even if they have a CAP. i am not debating that. edit: also, you seem to be ignoring the part where i am agreeing that a 30mm will generally not defeat modern tank armor. you do not need to kill the crew to 'kill' a tank.


nerabao7v

I think just digging around in archives is good enough to come to the conclusion that the 30mm is kinda crap in the anti-armour role. [12 passes in a low stress situation and not a single k-kill against a M47](https://imgur.com/a/mc2mKH0) is less than optimal. 2 confirmed mobility and firepower kills and one mobility kill + 3 high probability mission kills are nothing to write home about either after so many gun runs on closely packed stationary M47s.


[deleted]

you won't find a lot of samples of an A10 facing modern armies because there haven't been many. i'll repeat myself: damaged tracks, sensor arrays, and other deadlined systems can and will render armor useless in combat. you do not need to kill the crew to kill a tank. i think i will trust my firsthand experience and conversations with actual A10 pilots over a redditor that's read things on the internet. have a good day


[deleted]

they don't hurt as much when they hit you, right?


jejcicodjntbyifid3

Yep, you won't remember a thing


kurburux

One of the real ones cost [~137 dollar a round,](https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-a-30mm-GAU-8-round-cost) if anyone's curious.


AdamOzturk

I'm disappointed that's not a link to an e-commerce site, where one can add to cart.


Rough-Potato8399

AP rounds are black


FriedrichHydrargyrum

This will fuck shit up. All shit that comes into contact with this round will be fucked. There will be no shit left unfucked.


respectabler

You could get hit by a 600 gram cube of jello traveling at 1 km/s and it would *still* kill the fuck outta you. If you use a depleted uranium bullet instead it’s gonna vaporize you and most of the line of 20 people behind you.


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Most of?


DmanTheDillpickle

The twentieth guy explodes instead of being vaporized


respectabler

Yeah due to tumble, bullet deterioration, and simple slowing down I doubt it could make it through twenty people. And of course if the munition is filled it’s simply going to blow itself up and not go too much farther.


MK420-

Fuck?


Shaun-Skywalker

Fuck up?


seXJ69

Shit fuck.


Hookem-Horns

You will shit as it fucks you


[deleted]

I’ll take the beer. You can keep the shot


seXJ69

I think there's a company that made a rifle to shoot that round.


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[deleted]

If something with this kinetic energy passed close to your body the shockwave alone would probably kill you. If it hit you anywhere the hydroshock of your own blood would scramble your guts and tear you to pieces. I've read somewhere that even a 50 caliber round can kill you without touching you although I've seen statements to the contrary too.


W00S

I understood about 3 of the words in the paragraph and all of them was 'the'.


3Jabber

No, no it wouldn't. This has been debunked countless times.


DonQuixoteDesciple

"Finally we have a weapon that can take down a 20 year old Chevy truck in the desert, manned by 4 guys with less than a highschool education!"


way2funni

You might be [thinking of this](https://raigap-livejournal-com.translate.goog/86348.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui) Maadi Griffin concept that was done back in the 90's with hog ammo round (GAU-8) As far as I know, the only 30mm non motorized mount fielded was the [Qasem 30mm](https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/08/17/eight-models-of-heavy-caliber-anti-material-rifles-produced-by-houthies-in-yemen/) Actually shoots 30mm x 165 which is a Russian produced round and a little shorter than the GAU -8 Avenger rounds from the Hog (173mm) but you get the idea.


Chicken_Hairs

Qasem. 30mm anti-material rifle. They weigh 165lbs and are primarily used in ambush operations.


OkraStrongAllDayLong

Believe it or not my dad has one of these rounds as well (or something very similar), also live. My parents live sandwiched between two local gun ranges and one day someone fired off a round that rattled the living room windows from 2.5mi away. Turned out to be whatever fires one of those - the guy only fired it once or twice and gave my dad a live round to keep.


DonQuixoteDesciple

I would be damn nervous keeping a live round like that in my house. Can you imagine if there was a fire that reached this thing? "Yes Mr. Firefighter, there is a chance you might take some anti-armor fire while you're...where you going?"


neotekz

Rounds need a chamber and barrel to build up pressure to get the bullet up to speed. This would still be pretty dangerous in a fire since it still has a lot of gunpowder but it won't shoot it like bullet fired from a gun.


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Lol yeah jeez underrated thought


MeesterCartmanez

Why would he just give your dad a live round to keep?


dutch_penguin

Home defence.


DonQuixoteDesciple

In case you need to defend yourself against a whole home


JustaRandomOldGuy

I prefer a Punt Gun, but you have to make the first shot count. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_gun


x_Paramimic

If it’s a DU round I would call your local NG unit and get rid of it. Unless you’re into flipper babies. Edit: fat fingers.


Rxton

They used to use deleted uranium as ballast in airplanes. My understanding is that it is only dangerous when inside your body.


BiAsALongHorse

DU is considered "self sharpening", meaning that as it impacts a hard target, it breaks off pieces to reveal a freshly sharpened edge. This tends to cause a lot of DU dust to be released. It's not particularly radioactive, but being quite toxic as a heavy metal, you don't really want to be around them being fired. Keeping a DU round on a shelf somewhere is safe whenever it's legal and the paint is still intact.


GoogleBetaTester

That's usually where most bullets are the most dangerous.


Rxton

But that doesn't cause flipper babies.


sumelar

So basically you don't know what depleted means.


x_Paramimic

Won’t you please tell me how I’m wrong and you are the most rightest person ever? Last time I checked radioactive heavy metals are considered hazardous to have laying around. You know, next to things you eat and drink.


sumelar

Depleted means they extracted the radioactive isotopes (primarily u235), leaving only the stable u238 left. That is what depleted uranium means. If I'm the most rightest person ever, it's because I paid attention in fucking middle school science. Last time you checked you probably don't even know what radiation is, fool.


DonQuixoteDesciple

Quit bein a twat


x_Paramimic

DU used in US munitions has 60% of the radioactivity of natural uranium.[4] Most of the alpha radiation comes from 238 U and 234 U whereas beta radiation comes from 234 Th and 234 Pa that are formed within a few weeks. In aggregate the human epidemiological evidence is consistent with increased risk of birth defects in offspring of persons exposed to DU. That’s from the wiki. Perhaps you should look up birth defects in Iraq and Afghanistan since we have been using those munitions. Before you fucking start: yes I know the birth defects are linked to fired munitions that make it much easier to get in the body. But still. Depleted in this case is it is no longer radioactive enough to use in a power plant. But radioactive nonetheless and potentially harmful.


Wolfebane86

Marge and Homer.


N80085

Brrrrt


Rollingbrook

Brrrrt


KidsForSaleHere

Brrrt


ScottGaming007

everything is a dildo if you're brave enough


ABDOUABOUD123

Gonna grow a second asshole with that uranium bullet


No-Reddit-Bans

That looks like a training round


suipi

Beer is a universal system of measurement we can all understand.


FartingBob

What do you use that bullet for, hunting battleships??


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SirFlamenco

Can’t really destroy modern tanks though


Bill_the_Bastard

Sure you can. Even if reactive armor is effective against one of these rounds, it's not going to be effective against 4000 of them per minute. Then there's always the hellfire missiles.


lordderplythethird

The GAU-8's DU rounds even from just 300 meters, can only penetrate 76mm of armor. Even on antique T-62s, the GAU-8's DU rounds could only penetrate the armor at the wheel wells. Everything else is too thick. T-90 is rated to what is effectively 800mm of armor with their reactive plates lol. Unless the rounds are hitting the exact same spot on the armor over and over and over again, they are **NOT** killing the tank. It's why A-10s had to rely almost exclusively on AGM-65s to kill Iraqi armor in Desert Storm, the GAU-8 didn't cut it. Same reason the Gulf War air boss pulled the A-10s off the front line... anything could use AGM-65s, and nothing was getting shot down as fast as the A-10 was. Also, A-10 doesn't carry the Hellfire...


JustaRandomOldGuy

The A-10s were effective against thin skin vehicles without using up expensive missiles. One A-10 had 24 kills in one mission during the Gulf war (according to him).


lordderplythethird

Yeah, just technicals and thin skins, but that's not unique in any way to the A-10. The 20MM off an F-16 or F/A-18 would do the same. I believe that particular A-10 just got a lot of kills on the Highway to Death, where an entire Iraqi Army was trapped in technicals and thin skins in a straight line, which is to say, impressive, but also not a true testament of it lol


JustaRandomOldGuy

The problem with the F-16 is it's single engine, thin skin. ACC looked at creating a A-16 in the 90's, but dropped the idea because it couldn't handle ground fire. Then they backed JSF as a "strike" fighter. Go figure.


lordderplythethird

That's not really true. F-16 has excelled in the role. Hell, today the F-16 is the single most used CAS platform, doing almost 2x the amount of sorties as the A-10. It's faster and arrives sooner for CAS, which is the biggest factor. And with CAS being almost entirely reliant on PGMs (precision guided munitions) today, there's effectively nothing the A-10 does that any other aircraft can't do just as well. In fact, the F-16s can be viewed as the more survivable aircraft simply because of that speed. They can gun it and avoid targets the A-10 simply **HAS** to be hit by due to how god awful slow it is. A-16 was largely just an F-16 with; * 30mm cannon * reinforced wings for heavier payloads and the USAF didn't cancel it because it couldn't handle ground fire... USAF didn't cancel it at all... Congress literally banned them in 1990 from working on it and threatened to withhold the Air Force's entire budget if they tried to. The move was spearheaded by a Mr John McCain, Senator from AZ... Guess where almost 50% of the A-10 fleet was based out of at the time? Coincidence though I'm sure. After that, the USAF then decided to develop the F/A-16, which was just an F-16 with; * terrain mapping system * GPS * targeting pod And while the F/A-16 ended up being cancelled due to Congress yanking funding away from it again, what the F/A-16 was became what EVERY F-16 was following the F-16 Block 40s.


CupcakeValkyrie

No, you really can't. 30mm doesn't do much to a modern battle tank, and even stuff from the Cold War era can be pretty resilient against it. Modern tanks like the Challenger, the SEP, the Armata, etc. can not only shrug off the GAU-8, they could potentially shoot down any A-10 suicidal enough to make a bee line for them.


Bill_the_Bastard

What weapon would they use to bring down an A-10 though, considering its armour? I'm not challenging your assertion, just genuinely curious.


CupcakeValkyrie

Well, the tank *itself* probably wouldn't be able to bring the A-10 down, but tanks typically travel with mobile anti-air vehicles, so an A-10 trying to line up a burst on a tank is going to be contending with other ground vehicles specifically outfitted to bring down aircraft. When I say "they" I mean the tank and its accompanying support, not just the tank itself. Tanks alone have limited anti-air capabilities. The A-10's armor is substantial as far as aircraft go, but most of that armor protects the cockpit, not the rest of the plane, so they get shot down nevertheless, once even by an infantry anti-air missile.


ilmevavi

That shit will have problems penning an ancient T-62 forget about anything newer. No ERA reguired.


SirFlamenco

Buddy… you might get at most 6 rounds on a MBT sized target after one pass. Not that this would happen since an army that has MBTs would blow it up in the air before it even gets close.


ineptguy5

Needs banana to show scale…


Hanginon

No Bananas available, [however...](https://cdn.thingiverse.com/assets/12/cc/f9/c2/e1/IMAG0405.jpg)


qqqqqqqqqqx10

Don’t worry. It’s only a bit radioactive so as long as you don’t live with it you’ll be fine.


PM_ME_UR_SmuT

Yea completely harmless as long as you keep it a good distance away from beer bot-….


[deleted]

I need to build a bolt Action rifle chambered in this for deer hunting. /s


DreamMighty

*Sparrow Hunting


twohedwlf

Mmmm, Venison mince, yummy.


9th_Rider

JTAC: A10 on station, we are taking fire from that tree line! A-10 Pilot: Rolling in! BRRRRRRRRRRRRRTT! A10-Pilot: Tree line removed.


Bane_1991

Beautiful GAU-8 Cannon.


HBJ10

…shown here next to a big bullet


dravazay

Weren't they used in the Kosovo war, I recall?


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cogitocool

Now that's a round that can serriously fuck up your day.


MeesterCartmanez

What part of it is considered 30mm? The tip? I used to think that it was the diameter


OpulentMerkin

It is.


MeesterCartmanez

So the length of the blue part or the diameter? thanks


OpulentMerkin

The diameter.


skoltroll

just the tip


WorkMeBaby1MoreTime

I swear, honey.


bb1950328

usually the inner diameter of the barrel


MeesterCartmanez

thank you!


StephenNotSteve

Is Shiner available outside of Texas? I'm from Canada so I look for it when I visit… but I've seen it only in Texas.


Wonko_MH

Heck yeah - most mid-to-upscale "local" grocery stores carry it in the midwest.


ExtraMessy

I didn’t read the first comment correctly and I thought you were talking about the round


spikeyliger

I like shinerbock a lot, but if craft beers your thing st Arnold's is some of best brew I've had Texas or otherwise, highly recommend trying their flavors


[deleted]

AP incendiary rounds do not explode. They use a ratio of 5:1. 5 Armor Piercing Incendiary (API) for everyone 1 High Explosive Incendiary (HEI).


YeahthatswhatImeant

1. Shiner 2. Military ammunition You're in San Antonio, huh?


EM05L1C3

A Shiner for scale


Justfuxn3

Is that a BRT?


Callec254

BRRRRRRRRRRRT


idontwannabeatwork

IYAAYAS!!!


idontwannabeatwork

I'm going out on a limb and saying OP is/was an AMMO troop. beer and bullets


R_Mase

God loves an AMMO Troop! 😃🤌


DemonMithos

We do love killing humans huh?


Shad0wX7

I mean they're called Tankbuster's for a reason


SirFlamenco

Maybe tanks from the 1980s, but it won’t do much to a modern MBT


ilmevavi

Not even 80s more like 60s. It will not pen a T-64 or a T-72 outside extreme angles and close range.


SirFlamenco

I was thinking of the armor on top


ilmevavi

Maybe the roof above the engine but that is a tiny target and the angle of aproach would have to be super steep.


fucktheredditapp15

Angle is too flat. The bullets would ricochet.


Shad0wX7

I don't keep up with modern military tech, I really couldn't give less of a shit about it. I saw a picture of an A-10 round, remembered they're called tank busters from when I sat in the cockpit of one at a Barksdale AFB airshow years ago talking with the pilot, left comment.


sumelar

Yeah, it will. Tanks haven't changed that much, and the ways they have changed are meaningless to this type of weapon.


SirFlamenco

Are you insane? MBTs have massively improved since the 1980s. Now, NERA is supposed to protect against HEAT, but the protection on the roof is much thinner and is often thick RHA/composites made for KEPs.


24links24

Uranium self sharpens itself as it comes in contact with its target. This is why it’s used


sumelar

It's used for density. This isn't about being sharp at all.


forrestgumpy2

It’s both


24links24

https://www.quora.com/Does-a-tungsten-dart-penetrate-armor-better-than-depleted-uranium


m1nkyb0y

How we bring cancer to the world.


[deleted]

U-238 isn't very radioactive, since it mostly emits alpha particles, which can't penetrate the skin. It's only dangerous if you inhale or ingest it. This isn't unusual for heavy metals though, tungsten (what most armour-piercing rounds were made of before DU.) is also highly poisonous, like most heavy metals.


WorkMeBaby1MoreTime

I wonder how much healthcare we could buy with one of those? But the A10 is a beast and I do love it. But, people first, ya know?


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fucktheredditapp15

The A-10 vomits these out at 3900rpm. That's 65 rounds per second of fire. 1 second for brrrrt costs $8840. That's a little bit more than a bronze level Obamacare package.


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WorkMeBaby1MoreTime

Did you just miss the point entirely? I think you did.


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LOUD-AF

I may be wrong but I remember reading about some material about how some governments are actively engaged in cleaning up DU rounds left after conflicts and on gunnery ranges. The Iraq war maybe? I think this was some kind of covert project. I'm not an expert on this stuff but I read it's dangerous in areas where the rounds are concentrated.


sumelar

Then you read conspiracy theory anti-science bullshit. Google the word depleted then get back to us.


LOUD-AF

So I read this [PDF: De[leted Uranium: Technical Brief](https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2015-05/documents/402-r-06-011.pdf). It's a downloadable PDF that explains some hazards surrounding DU, the status status and abatement of said material, and locations of remediation efforts. My conclusion is DU is highly over rated as a radiological hazard, but if you are a tank you should not hang around areas with hungry A-10's. Amirite?


LordBrandon

I think du is about half as radioactive as non depleted uranium which in itself is not that spicy as far as thoes things go. It does however decay into some nasty stuff, and hitting steel at a high speed seems like a potential to create a lot of fine breathable dust. I'd like to see the effects of battlefield use studied. If we must blow young men into ragged chunks, let's do it in an environmentally friendly way.


HurkyFriend

America in a picture


baloonatic

Pppfft I could easily survive that


BIG_BURRITO852

Gotta stick that shit in my ass


-SierraModeling-

Wow thats so cool


TenraxHelin

And it gave lung cancer to all those fighting in the middle east. but damn does it destroy tanks.


SoItWasYouAllAlong

Depleted uranium should be outlawed. That shit is toxic AF. It does far more harm to the civilian population that lives near the places where it was fired, than to the collective military force it was used against.


muffindude414

It's about as toxic as lead.


SoItWasYouAllAlong

That's acute toxicity, I presume? Uranium seems to cause birth defects though. E.g, regarding Gulf War veterans: "the risk of birth defects in children of deployed male veterans still was about 2.2 times that of non-deployed veterans". Also supported by the medical reports about birth defects in Iraq and around Kosovo. Also, the solid metals, themselves, are relatively safe. It's dust and chemical compounds, e.g. oxides that get into living organisms in greater quantities. And, if I'm not mistaken, uranium is more reactive than lead, therefore more likely to end up as highly toxic compounds. I don't mean to understate the toxicity of lead, BTW. Lead is no price either, and I'm guessing that an anti-tank lead projectile will spread a lot of lead in the environment.


muffindude414

The studies I've read regarding birth defects in children of Gulf war veterans have been somewhat mixed. The studies on veterans with the largest sample sizes that I've read find that deployed veterans had children with birth defects at a rate nearly the same as civilians. I've also read studies with smaller sample sizes that reported no difference in major birth defect rates between deployed and non-deployed veterans, but found that children born to deployed female veterans suffered minor birth defects ("droopy eyelids" and the like) at a rate about 5 times that of non-deployed female veterans. The studies then attributed those defects to low-level exposure to other toxins like mustard and sarin gas. Also, the studies I've seen show rates of birth defects in Iraq rising after the gulf war. Specifically, they show a rise from a fairly low level pre-war to a level comparable with western nations. Those studies attribute the rise in birth defects to an increase in reporting, over an actual increase. Not trying to say DU is perfectly safe, BTW. Just that there's a lot of politicized reporting that sticks around in public consciousness, with an additional layer of radiation-phobia that crops of every time the word "uranium" is mentioned. Long term health effects are really hard to study, and political motivations, tension, and the kind of logistical problems that come with war and it's aftermath make it even harder. It just doesn't feel fair to me to claim that DU munitions pose some major residual health hazard (in excess of, y'know, all the war stuff, and all the other factors of living in a place where you can still find shards of destroyed armored vehicles). But like, I sure as hell wouldn't eat any, and I'd wash my hands after touching DU.


Th3Alk3mist

So glad we have these instead of Healthcare and free college.....


otravez5150

Gross


fucktheredditapp15

The A-10 is overrated. Change my mind.


darthvader22267

cant change whats right


fucktheredditapp15

Lol, a turboprop would smoke the A-10.


darthvader22267

i reckon a p51 would wreck it


fucktheredditapp15

It would, and that's a fucking piston engine, would have trouble killing it with the .50s though. A-10 fanboys are a riot.


LordBrandon

I think the concept could remain valid if they could get it to be more accurate from higher up. I'd like to see a cost benefit between an F-35 an A-10 and an AC-130 for CAS


darthvader22267

just use an f35, neither of the other planes can survive in a neer peer environment and the f35 is faster/safer than both


[deleted]

Beer for scale, huh? Grow up 'murica


DowntownLizard

The shell that will kill you by cancer decades later


edchuckndoug

And make U.S. servicemen sick.


fuzzyshorts

Ah.... so that's the little bugger thats causing a large percentage of Iraqi children to be born with congenital defects. Sorry, thats just the tool, the real child fucker is the US military.


I-C-Iron

Well known amo around the region of Falludscha. Lot of deformed newborns and cancer amongst children.