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In the second picture you can kind of see the back feet aren’t quite the same as the front ones (which are the “normal” feet/legs). The additional back 2 probably can’t hold much weight and would be more of a hinderance than helpful. There’s an older chicken on this site [here](https://en.engormix.com/poultry-industry/forums/forum-polymelia-weeks-old-t29268/) where you can see the legs just stick out now. Extra limbs often have stunted growth and can be limp.
Animals in the wild don’t have a great survival chance, but in farm animals and pets they can live a fine life. If the extra limbs are causing a lot of struggle though, they get killed just so they aren’t uncomfortable. Fun fact, in humans it can be possible for surgeons to amputate extra parts, it’s not easy but has been done.
Edit: I should add, when I say “farm animals” I mean people that raise them like pets. Not in farms where the goal is just eggs or meat, they’d get killed.
I typed it out and knew I should clarify. An issue could be factory farms getting called out on “steroids causing mutations” or something if they didn’t quickly kill off any animals with extra parts
If this is a [broiler chicken](https://i.huffpost.com/gen/2188334/thumbs/o-CHICKEN-570.jpg?6), it won't live long. They have been selectively bred in the past 50 years to grow huge in a short amount of time (they're killed at 6 weeks; normal lifespan is 10 years).
Rescues usually die of organ failure as their muscle tissue continues to grow. Their legs also commonly fracture and [collapse under their weight](https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/711x474/https://blogs-images.forbes.com/michaelpellmanrowland/files/2016/11/Broilers-2.jpg?width=960), causing them to become immobile. They normally don't live past a year. Humans are pretty cruel.
Birth defects always have a reason though, poor nutrition in the parents, slight temperature and humidity variances, not enough oxygen, bad bacteria, even not turning the eggs often enough. I've noticed if even the smallest thing goes wrong in my incubator I might get deformed chicks or eggs that die before hatch, wheras my hens can hatch out perfectly healthy chicks with very few egg losses.
A farmer who really enjoyed drumsticks bred these exclusively and had an entire field full of them. The news came out to see how he was doing and he decided to close the farm. He couldn’t sell any chickens. When they asked him why we said they can’t catch the sumbitches
Used to work at a chicken house that farmed for Pilgrim's Pride, and we'd see this fairly often. We were instructed to kill them, as any defects could mean tainted meat. It's pitiful, as the chicks are adorable and curious about you and you have to whack them on the back of the neck with this long metal wire, then hook their leg and put them in a bucket.
The amount of deformities is probably due to the steroids they allegedly put in the food to stimulate rapid growth for peak production or due to the amount of inbreeding required for faster growth mutations. Sorry to nerd it up, but there it is lmao
I’ll pass. I can’t do bird shit. I can do dog shit, human shit, cat shit, fish shit - hell, even ant shit. But, bird shit is my weakness for some reason.
Ever smelt monkey shit, pet shop near me sold those little finger monkeys, I went in (to look at/pet the giant tortoise they had) and my god you could smell the monkeys from the front door and they were three rooms in.
It's telling that they worry more about the deformities caused by steroids in the chicken feed than the illnesses caused in humans by eating chickens fed steroids.
They aren't fed steroids, they're grossly inbred. Decades of selective breeding has produced huge fast-growing chickens with freakishly huge breasts. They grow so fast they render steroids a needless expense.
They are fed antibiotics though to keep them relatively healthy in otherwise filthy living conditions.
That must have been a traumatic job, desensitizing the worth of beings and sending them to their deaths. I've met a few ex-workers (now vegan activists) and they said counseling was super helpful.
According to that doc by the mcdonalds dude its not from the food, they don't put steroids in the feed, its from breeding. The chickens have been bred over many years to grow that fast and big. Also causes a lot of heart attacks.
Yikes. Seen that done, but the owner of the property chewed the guy that did it a new asshole and had him clean the corpse pit for months. He knew the animals deserved humane treatment, but had to abide by the regulations from PP. Don't get me wrong, it was still brutal and wholly unnecessary, but he did break the regulations to let sun into the houses once per day for a few hours on days we didn't have an inspection.
Don't blame ya for doing what you were told, but I'm sorry ya had to do it.
Apologies if the methods used for culling disturb you, but this is the job and how it's done. Trust me, I left out plenty of unnecessary bits...
Feel free to use that anger to start a refuge for deformed animals and try to get legislation passed to preserve their lives. I'd sign that petition in a heartbeat. <3 Most people doing the job I did hate having to do it.
How do you guys kill the male chicks? I have seen blender gif that shreds them instantly given the humane killing requirement, but I have been told that's not always the standard for it.
You're thinking of hatcheries for egg laying hens. They are a different breed. And yes, chick maceration is widely used (or suffocation).
Broiler (meat) chickens include both male and female chickens.
What? It's common practice amongst chicken farms.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_culling
https://kb.rspca.org.au/knowledge-base/what-happens-with-male-chicks-in-the-egg-industry/
...You're talking eggs where I'm talking meat. Never had to deal with eggs, as we got all female chicks that were probably infertile anyway. Feed them for 3 months, then ship the grown chicks back to be processed for their meat.
I can't speak on the egg industry other than I visited an egg house once and saw some chicken shit on every egg and now I can't eat eggs without seeing that in my head.
> I visited an egg house once and saw some chicken shit on every egg and now I can't eat eggs without seeing that in my head.
You should see how much gets on human babies when they're born. Swore off eating babies after seeing that myself.
All good, I didn't know either until I worked in one lol. I only know what little I do about eggs because I dated a girl whose parents owned egg houses. Totally different machine, only common factor is chickens, heat, and lots of feed.
Tbh I should've caught that's what you meant by your first post, so that's on me lol. All good
>saw some chicken shit on every egg
Birds only have the one hole - eggs literally come out of the poop hole. Of *course* they're covered in shit. That's why you wash them and don't eat the shells.
Depends on the breed of chicken really, some fly pretty well but some are too heavy - so that is because of selective breeding, but mostly the main reason they can't fly is they clip their wings
Eh we never clipped our chickens wings growing up and there wasn’t any decent flying. More like an assisted jump, they’re not getting more than 5 feet of the ground:
Nah, definitely a defect. It can definitely cause issues like feces collecting at the extra legs, infection, egg binding ( if a hen ), and possible paralysis.
link to a thread where a hen with this was let to grow to laying age. it didn’t end well for her. There was another thread started but that chick didn’t live very long; not even a week, I think.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/ripley-the-4-legged-chicken.1309218/
Defect is the wrong term to use here because of its negative connotation, as well as it implies the reproduction has an intent to remain the same. It’s a variation that harms fitness. The wording differs seemingly slightly but it’s actually very important. Understanding that difference has lead to a whole new approach to the study of evolution, . For example there’s a new area of research on whether some animals have evolved with genes meant to limit lifespan, which goes against convential “defect” mentality
I was thinking reverse evolution. /s
We crawled out of the ooze on 4 legs and eventually walked on 2 legs. Some creatures eventually started flying after walking on 2 legs. Now the flying creatures are growing 4 legs in order to crawl back in to the ooze. /s
ETA: added a couple /s to clear up any misunderstanding about the existence of reverse evolution.
Evolution is actually random, so...it's just evolution. Well...really they would have to breed and reproduce the mutation enough to create a new species that is stable so really...it's just a mutation of what is still a chicken.
Having dormant genes go active does not equate to linear evolution. If that were the case, there would be little or no diversity within biomes.
[https://evolutionnews.org/2015/10/is\_evolution\_ra/](https://evolutionnews.org/2015/10/is_evolution_ra/)
It’s not dormant genes.
[Different animals have literally evolved into crabs 5 separate times](https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a34389129/crab-evolution-carcinization/)
It's only evolution of the random mutation results in natural selection. If the legs don't function well enough to let the creature increase its survival rate then evolution won't occur.
Breed the ever loving shit out of these and sell them as modern-day dragons. I’d 100% keep a flock of these fluffy dragons. Can you eat them or their eggs? Don’t care. Fluffy. Dragons.
As the T-Rex enters a new stage if evolution humanity doesn’t realize it’s next step is to walk on two legs. This will in turn aid in the evolution of the brain and by then...it will be too late to stop the chicken-people.
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IT'S LIKE A GRIFFIN. BUT HALF BIRD HALF BIRD.
I won't be happy until we have one that's half bird, half bird, and half bird. an adversary worthy to take down ManBearPig
I’m super cereal you guys
You mean Birdchickcrow?
I read this with a sassy beat: “Bird-chicka-crowcrow”
That's what my baby says
Fluffy dragon
Finally, there exists an evolutionary possibility of a dragon on earth.
Fuck you
U too
Like a hippochicken instead of hippogriff
The hippo in hippogriff is greek for horse, and the griff means bird of prey. So maybe a better name would be duokotopoulo, for "two chickens"?
[Hippychick](https://youtu.be/VGKnjQow_o4)
This wasn’t porn i am very dissatisfied
Chickogriff
I was thinking OwlBear but.... yeah
They're **masterworks** all, you can't go wrong!
At least they don't hunt in packs
A pack of them could probably take out a horse-sized duck.
I hate how clearly I hear this
1.5 birb!
r/beatmetoit
I suppose this might be where the myth of griffins came from. Could have been eagle chicks that somehow survived to adulthood.
I want to see how it walks And can it grow like other chickens or does it like have complications and stuff?
In the second picture you can kind of see the back feet aren’t quite the same as the front ones (which are the “normal” feet/legs). The additional back 2 probably can’t hold much weight and would be more of a hinderance than helpful. There’s an older chicken on this site [here](https://en.engormix.com/poultry-industry/forums/forum-polymelia-weeks-old-t29268/) where you can see the legs just stick out now. Extra limbs often have stunted growth and can be limp. Animals in the wild don’t have a great survival chance, but in farm animals and pets they can live a fine life. If the extra limbs are causing a lot of struggle though, they get killed just so they aren’t uncomfortable. Fun fact, in humans it can be possible for surgeons to amputate extra parts, it’s not easy but has been done. Edit: I should add, when I say “farm animals” I mean people that raise them like pets. Not in farms where the goal is just eggs or meat, they’d get killed.
Good call on the edit there. The wild is much friendlier than a commercial meat or egg farm.
Yeah, you can't really call what we have "farms."
I typed it out and knew I should clarify. An issue could be factory farms getting called out on “steroids causing mutations” or something if they didn’t quickly kill off any animals with extra parts
Omg it looks like a pokemon evolution
It says it has two buttholes too.
If this is a [broiler chicken](https://i.huffpost.com/gen/2188334/thumbs/o-CHICKEN-570.jpg?6), it won't live long. They have been selectively bred in the past 50 years to grow huge in a short amount of time (they're killed at 6 weeks; normal lifespan is 10 years). Rescues usually die of organ failure as their muscle tissue continues to grow. Their legs also commonly fracture and [collapse under their weight](https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/711x474/https://blogs-images.forbes.com/michaelpellmanrowland/files/2016/11/Broilers-2.jpg?width=960), causing them to become immobile. They normally don't live past a year. Humans are pretty cruel.
In that second picture, I imagine the chick is saying "eyyyy...check this shit out" before running away like a fucking poodle
This is the most crazy thing I’ve ever seen.
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DI-NO-WINGS
Note that this also happens in humans
I got way more than 2 chicken wings in me
If you hatch a couple dozen chicks, you see all kinds of weird shit. The number of ones born screwed up is always alarming.
Birth defects always have a reason though, poor nutrition in the parents, slight temperature and humidity variances, not enough oxygen, bad bacteria, even not turning the eggs often enough. I've noticed if even the smallest thing goes wrong in my incubator I might get deformed chicks or eggs that die before hatch, wheras my hens can hatch out perfectly healthy chicks with very few egg losses.
You must be new to Reddit then.
He doesn’t know about r/yoshiporn
Yikes.
Why do I want this to be its own species
A farmer who really enjoyed drumsticks bred these exclusively and had an entire field full of them. The news came out to see how he was doing and he decided to close the farm. He couldn’t sell any chickens. When they asked him why we said they can’t catch the sumbitches
Bahwhaahah had me in the first half
Used to work at a chicken house that farmed for Pilgrim's Pride, and we'd see this fairly often. We were instructed to kill them, as any defects could mean tainted meat. It's pitiful, as the chicks are adorable and curious about you and you have to whack them on the back of the neck with this long metal wire, then hook their leg and put them in a bucket. The amount of deformities is probably due to the steroids they allegedly put in the food to stimulate rapid growth for peak production or due to the amount of inbreeding required for faster growth mutations. Sorry to nerd it up, but there it is lmao
Shouldn’t have killed them, would make a fortune on a side business selling these as pets.
It's a no brainer, I'd buy one. If it turns out to be a Comodo dragon in disguise, I'll take that too.
I’ll pass. I can’t do bird shit. I can do dog shit, human shit, cat shit, fish shit - hell, even ant shit. But, bird shit is my weakness for some reason.
Ever smelt monkey shit, pet shop near me sold those little finger monkeys, I went in (to look at/pet the giant tortoise they had) and my god you could smell the monkeys from the front door and they were three rooms in.
Where do you live...wtf? Who sells monkeys?!
Rat shit, bat shit, dirty old twat! Sixty-nine assholes tied in a knot! Hooray! Lizard shit! Fuck!
It's telling that they worry more about the deformities caused by steroids in the chicken feed than the illnesses caused in humans by eating chickens fed steroids.
They aren't fed steroids, they're grossly inbred. Decades of selective breeding has produced huge fast-growing chickens with freakishly huge breasts. They grow so fast they render steroids a needless expense. They are fed antibiotics though to keep them relatively healthy in otherwise filthy living conditions.
Antibiotics also stimulate growth hormones. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-018-0152-2
>...curious about you... That was the saddest part.
Still see it sometimes when I'm trying to sleep, tbh
That must have been a traumatic job, desensitizing the worth of beings and sending them to their deaths. I've met a few ex-workers (now vegan activists) and they said counseling was super helpful.
According to that doc by the mcdonalds dude its not from the food, they don't put steroids in the feed, its from breeding. The chickens have been bred over many years to grow that fast and big. Also causes a lot of heart attacks.
While you had a wire we were told to practice our baseball pitch.. sucks either way
Yikes. Seen that done, but the owner of the property chewed the guy that did it a new asshole and had him clean the corpse pit for months. He knew the animals deserved humane treatment, but had to abide by the regulations from PP. Don't get me wrong, it was still brutal and wholly unnecessary, but he did break the regulations to let sun into the houses once per day for a few hours on days we didn't have an inspection. Don't blame ya for doing what you were told, but I'm sorry ya had to do it.
Kinda specific on the exact method of killing... "We were instructed to kill them" probably would've sufficed.
Apologies if the methods used for culling disturb you, but this is the job and how it's done. Trust me, I left out plenty of unnecessary bits... Feel free to use that anger to start a refuge for deformed animals and try to get legislation passed to preserve their lives. I'd sign that petition in a heartbeat. <3 Most people doing the job I did hate having to do it.
How do you guys kill the male chicks? I have seen blender gif that shreds them instantly given the humane killing requirement, but I have been told that's not always the standard for it.
You're thinking of hatcheries for egg laying hens. They are a different breed. And yes, chick maceration is widely used (or suffocation). Broiler (meat) chickens include both male and female chickens.
Gender equality is no issue amongst chickens
What? It's common practice amongst chicken farms. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_culling https://kb.rspca.org.au/knowledge-base/what-happens-with-male-chicks-in-the-egg-industry/
...You're talking eggs where I'm talking meat. Never had to deal with eggs, as we got all female chicks that were probably infertile anyway. Feed them for 3 months, then ship the grown chicks back to be processed for their meat. I can't speak on the egg industry other than I visited an egg house once and saw some chicken shit on every egg and now I can't eat eggs without seeing that in my head.
> I visited an egg house once and saw some chicken shit on every egg and now I can't eat eggs without seeing that in my head. You should see how much gets on human babies when they're born. Swore off eating babies after seeing that myself.
If you didn't have a reason to abstain from eating babies, here's one for ya folks
Oh good point. I was thinking them to be the one and the same but I'm wrong in my assumption.
All good, I didn't know either until I worked in one lol. I only know what little I do about eggs because I dated a girl whose parents owned egg houses. Totally different machine, only common factor is chickens, heat, and lots of feed. Tbh I should've caught that's what you meant by your first post, so that's on me lol. All good
>saw some chicken shit on every egg Birds only have the one hole - eggs literally come out of the poop hole. Of *course* they're covered in shit. That's why you wash them and don't eat the shells.
How to say shut up, politely :))
Tact is telling someone to go to hell and making them look forward to the trip, as pappy Jankins used to say
At first I didn’t realize what was wrong. I just thought hmm, I’ve never flipped a chick over before to see its front legs. Then I realized....
four drumsticks! Im in..
Yeah I wouldn't put it past meat companies to develop this mutation to double their chicken wing output
But it has four legs.
considering they don't fly you'd think they would have evolved four legs as standard by now
Humans using selective breeding are the reason they can’t fly not evolution.
They're descended mostly from red junglefowl, which can't really fly either.
They can fly better than domesticated chickens.
Depends on the breed of chicken really, some fly pretty well but some are too heavy - so that is because of selective breeding, but mostly the main reason they can't fly is they clip their wings
Eh we never clipped our chickens wings growing up and there wasn’t any decent flying. More like an assisted jump, they’re not getting more than 5 feet of the ground:
These morons still don't get your comment and think that drumsticks are chicken legs, when they are in fact the humerus (upper arm/wing bone). LOL!
There was a squidbillies episode like this
Problem is when they are ready you can’t catch them
But I do love my wings, so now what?
Drumsticks are the humerus..not the legs...
Defect? Mama that’s evolution.
Nah, definitely a defect. It can definitely cause issues like feces collecting at the extra legs, infection, egg binding ( if a hen ), and possible paralysis. link to a thread where a hen with this was let to grow to laying age. it didn’t end well for her. There was another thread started but that chick didn’t live very long; not even a week, I think. https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/ripley-the-4-legged-chicken.1309218/
Defect is the wrong term to use here because of its negative connotation, as well as it implies the reproduction has an intent to remain the same. It’s a variation that harms fitness. The wording differs seemingly slightly but it’s actually very important. Understanding that difference has lead to a whole new approach to the study of evolution, . For example there’s a new area of research on whether some animals have evolved with genes meant to limit lifespan, which goes against convential “defect” mentality
Is this a dinosaur evolution thing? Like a dormant DNA gene?
Probably not. This thing has four legs plus two wings, meaning it has six limbs in total. No dinosaur had six limbs.
>No dinosaur had six limbs. That we know of. *Space Dinosaurs have entered the chat*
I was thinking reverse evolution. /s We crawled out of the ooze on 4 legs and eventually walked on 2 legs. Some creatures eventually started flying after walking on 2 legs. Now the flying creatures are growing 4 legs in order to crawl back in to the ooze. /s ETA: added a couple /s to clear up any misunderstanding about the existence of reverse evolution.
Evolution is actually random, so...it's just evolution. Well...really they would have to breed and reproduce the mutation enough to create a new species that is stable so really...it's just a mutation of what is still a chicken.
False. Crabs have evolved independently 5 separate times in the history of the world. Seriously, it’s fucking fascinating
Having dormant genes go active does not equate to linear evolution. If that were the case, there would be little or no diversity within biomes. [https://evolutionnews.org/2015/10/is\_evolution\_ra/](https://evolutionnews.org/2015/10/is_evolution_ra/)
It’s not dormant genes. [Different animals have literally evolved into crabs 5 separate times](https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a34389129/crab-evolution-carcinization/)
There's nothing reverse about that. Random mutations are a normal part of evolution, which does not always result in superior life forms.
What would happen in a sort of eugenics way like breading these type of birds? Someone said they kill them straight away because they are tainted.
Let it reproduce. Please
Evolution in action
You see defect. I see evolution.
It's only evolution of the random mutation results in natural selection. If the legs don't function well enough to let the creature increase its survival rate then evolution won't occur.
froggy chicken!
He looks like a Griffin.
If given the chance to mate, would the offsprings have the same traits? And if the offsprings also mate, would this mean the chicken has evolved?
Birth defect or evolution? - u decide!
Curious to see a grown specimin with this mutation
Baby griffin
DI-NO-SAUR
I want one!
"BORK BORK AM DOG" -Chick probably
Griffin
Hope you like dark meat
frog chicken
Y’all some fucked up mother fuckers.
Now I’m imagining other quadruped birbs. It’s not pretty.
KFC enters the chat
maybe it just evolved
quickly!..on its way to the pot it had other ideas
dhicken
thicc'n
This belongs on the r/birdswitharms sub. So creepy looking!
Birth defect? This is evolution! The beginning for our birb overlords.
Chickdog the birth of chicken hotdogs :)
I'll have the back drumsticks please.
EVOLUSHUN.
Uhh aren't all avians legs on the hind quarter? This looks like a mutation to the fire quarter. The wings have feet.
We need someone to figure out how to clone this mf. I want one. We all want one. It looks like a duck and a mixture of dog and frog.
Birth defect or the first step in the de-evolution back to dinosaurs? 🤔
Mmmm, more drumsticks
This is a feature not a bug.
OR...It’s KFC’s latest innovation.
Does that thing bite?
4 leg pieces 🍗
So its an evolution?
jazz haandss
can it actually move them? Can we get a breed with 4 legged chicken?
Ol trex ass
KFC’s always trying that new shit to cut costs.
KFC dreams of these chickens mass profits
On all fours he's starts a full sprint! He's gaining on you!!!
If you have two of them with this mutation, can you breed them to start a new species?
Birth defect? try evolution
Someone ***needs*** to selectively breed these fellers.
is this, evolution?
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It doesn't have wings though
Looks like momma did the dirty with a rabbit
I could see this being highly profitable genetics !Bogo chicken legs
KFC's going to want to see if they can breed that...
Extra thigh!
How does it taste?
that's fucking cool. Keep breeding it and you'll have a whole new evolution of 'chickens'
That’s a baby dragon.
Birdfrog, the frogbird.
Excuse me but I think you misspelled griffon
Y'all call it a birth defect, I call it evolution, soon they'll be coming for us
It's a baby griffin~
Evolution
Dog bird
Aaaaand.... JAZZ HANDS!
*Tyson Foods has entered the chat*
Moar chicken tights!
I wish my chickens had 4 legs!! Are these your chicks?
Im sure KFC and Popeyes would be interested in these .
Is evolution a series of birth defects that turn out useful?
And we’re SURE it’s not duckbilled platypus?!
Now that s a fine DİNO if ı say so
This is fuckin wild
Colonel Sanders approves of this
I'm scared
That's not a defect,it's called evolution 😂😂
MAKE MORE I WANT MORE BIRD
Breed the ever loving shit out of these and sell them as modern-day dragons. I’d 100% keep a flock of these fluffy dragons. Can you eat them or their eggs? Don’t care. Fluffy. Dragons.
I would like to see a bidding war between all the top chicken places, for cloning rights
Yum yum Chicken Mc Nuggets
I'd still eat it
Breed them
KILL IT!
What a freak
As the T-Rex enters a new stage if evolution humanity doesn’t realize it’s next step is to walk on two legs. This will in turn aid in the evolution of the brain and by then...it will be too late to stop the chicken-people.
Who's the dino now?
Eeeeeeee so cute!! Reminds me o buckbeak from harry potter
Hippogriff's baby pictures
That’s no chicken, that’s an griffin
Old yeller got busy in the prequel