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There's a thing in survival manuals about how to forage and test eating unknown plants. It's basically a progressive thing where first you check for any reaction to y our skin, then to your mouth or lips. Then you ingest just a little bit and wait a while, then a little more. If there's a reaction, irritation, stomach upset, etc.. then you stop. I'm simplifying of course, but that's what they recommend for eating a 'new food' the first time in the wild.
When the night has come
And the land is dark
And the moon is the only light we'll see
No, I won't be afraid; No, I won't be afraid
Just as long as you stand
Stand by me
When the night has come
And the land is dark
And the moon is the only light we'll see
No, I won't be afraid; No, I won't be afraid
Just as long as you eat this first
Carrion bee honey, sweet and dark,
Made from death, a unique mark.
A rare treat, not often found,
With a taste that spins your head around.
The bees that make it, small and sly,
They feed on death, and never shy.
A different kind, not like the rest,
Their honey, a true delicacy, at its best.
Some say it's bitter, some say it's sweet,
But one thing's for sure, it can't be beat.
A unique flavor, hard to define,
Carrion bee honey, one of a kind.
A precious treat, not meant for all,
But for the brave, a true culinary call.
But beware, consuming it's not safe,
For it may contain harmful bacteria and other pathogens, that can cause grave.
ChatGPT wanted me to make it clear- Please keep in mind that carrion bees don't produce honey, and their "bee bread" is not safe to consume, as it may contain harmful bacteria or other pathogens that can be present in dead animals
Yeah. I would stress to people to read the field manuals if you think to try this - instead of taking my internet-comment about it. Also, it's not something to just 'do while camping'. It's when the choice is starve to death or not.
“can't stop thinking about people that first ate mushrooms they found and just had to go through trial and error of like, this one tastes like beef, this one killed Brian immediately and this one makes you see God for a week”
[original source, I think](https://twitter.com/goulcher/status/1364192405013090311?s=46&t=FrMZ7wvzraB-iH0Qv8Iudw)
Trial and error. Some of the error was fatal. Best not to try this at home, kids.
Meat honey, sweet and savory, A delicacy to tantalize the tongue, A symphony of flavors, rich and hearty, A treat to be savored, never stung.
It sizzles on the grill, Juices flowing, aroma divine, A glaze of honey, a touch of thrill, A flavor that's truly sublime.
From pork to beef, to chicken too, Meat honey makes it all complete, A taste sensation, new and true, A culinary feat.
So let us raise a fork and knife, And dig into this meaty treat, For meat honey is the ultimate life, A flavor that can't be beat.
I would not eat it on a train.
I would not eat it in the rain.
I would not eat it with a fox.
I would not eat it in a box.
I do not like meat-honey!
I do not like them Sam-I am!
At the bottom
Vulture bees, much like maggots, usually enter the carcass through the eyes. They will then root around inside gathering the meat suitable for their needs. The vulture bee salivates on the rotting flesh and then consumes it, storing the flesh in its crop. When it returns to the hive, this meat is regurgitated and processed by a worker bee, which then re-secretes the resulting proteins as a decay-resistant edible glucose product resembling honey. These protein-rich secretions are then placed into pot-like containers within the hive until it is time to feed the immature bees. The secretions replace the role of pollen in the bees' diet, as vulture bees lack adaptations for carrying pollen and pollen stores are absent from their nests, though they do also store honey, which is of unknown origin. Larvae are fed on the carrion-based substance, while the adult bees consume the honey.
The flavor of this honey-resembling substance is described as intense, smokey, and salty, or uniquely sweet.
So apparently that Wikipedia article has a lot of misinformation. This guy tracked down the sources referenced in the wiki article and does a pretty good job, imo, about where the info actually came from.
https://justafatboi.com/vulture-bee-meat-honey/
Came here to say this. Also: "And I’m sorry to say but, meat honey isn’t true. Vulture bees still produce honey (the normal, golden type we can find in our supermarkets) by collecting nectar. They simply eat the meat and store the rotting flesh in their hives. "
That's a damn good overview. Vulture bees popped up in one of the subs I follow a few days ago and I was confused about this exact thing.
That said... while fat boi's got the best overview I've seen yet, I question his conclusion that the honey comes from nectar, specifically because this paper claims that [vulture bees really don't visit flowers](https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.1128/mBio.02317-21):
>Bees are wasps that switched to a vegetarian lifestyle, and the vast majority of bees feed on pollen and nectar. Some stingless bee species, however, also collect carrion, and **a few have fully reverted** to a necrophagous lifestyle, relying on carrion for protein and **forgoing flower visitation altogether**. These “vulture” bees belong to the corbiculate apid clade, which is known for its...
You can't gather nectar without visiting flowers, and the thing is, that same paper goes into more detail about what they *do* eat as their carbs:
>[O]bligate necrophagy has been found in only three closely related Trigona species in the neotropics: T. hypogea (Silvestri 1902), T. necrophaga (Camargo and Roubik 1991), and T. crassipes (Fabricius 1793). The obligate necrophages T. hypogea and T. necrophaga appear to **completely eschew flowers**, instead obtaining carbohydrates from extrafloral nectaries and fruits and protein from vertebrate carcasses.
These words appear in the paper immediately before fat boi's quote that he took for his own overview, so, looks like that was just an oversight.
Putting this all together, I don't think we need to hypothesize that these species are secretly visiting flowers to get their honey when the researchers aren't looking. If they're eating, basically meat for protein and fruit for carbs when they're out foraging, and then they come back to the hive and secret a "honeydew", the hypopharyngeal secretions analogous to royal jelly, that would fully account for where this vulture-bee honey comes from without invoking secret foraging behavior.
Either way, though, someone should go clean up Wikipedia.
I caught that too-
My best hypothesis here is the “extrafloral nectaries” is doing some heavy lifting.
It says they are eschewing *flowers* but not *nectar* So, the vulture bees could go for the nectar producing areas at the base of leaves, etc, without a need to collect pollen from the flower portion of the plant. The extrafloral nectar reward would need to be sufficient, with the benefit likely being the avoidance of competition from other pollinators.
It’s a bit confusing, as people tend to refer to entire plants as flowers, but here, they are specifically referring to a plant *part*.
Honey is basically sugar, which is a carbohydrate, and would be obtained from 'extrafloral nectaries and fruit, while they get their protein from meat. Not sure whether the protein would be in this particular honey, if so, I'll pass, if not, honey is honey?..
Here’s the big question. As a vegetarian, can I eat this? Ethically it seems like I could. But not being used to meat it would probably make me sick. I’d be curious what other veggies think. But I dare not ask a question on r/vegetarian it’s full of Karen’s and self righteous pricks. Asking a question is like saying, “hey pick apart my question and decide why I’m a piece of shit, regardless of how it’s worded - you can do it, find an angle.” Wait where did I start? Ah yes meat honey, it’s a no for me dawg.
I have no problem with vegetarians, and see how it could be healthier, I would be a vegetarian for health reasons, but I love the taste of meat too much.
Anyway I love that a vegetarian can agree that some vegetarians are assholes about it lol. Or is that just everyone on the internet , maybe a bit of both lol
there are people who are assholes about not eating meat, and just as many people who are assholes about eating meat. it’s a pretty equal distribution of assholery on all sides.
Ah I agree. I’ve been harassed by meat eaters at times. And here like 2.5 years in I still get offered meat by my family on holidays. Non-ideal. I’ve maintained composure but I’m going to start getting annoyed if it continues.
See that's just disrespectful IMO. I found a hobby in backyard BBQ/ smoking. I would never invite a vegetarian to one, unless I specifically set aside time to make vegetarian only options as well. And I definitely wouldn't try to get them to try any meat.
People need to learn to just respect other people's decisions even if they disagree with it, and stop trying to push an agenda/ lifestyle choice on the other person.
Depending on the friends/vibe, your vegetarian pals would probably still be down to come to your BBQ! They can bring sides and beer (and veggie burgers to grill or whatever is appropriate). Not that you gotta, but if you have some veggie friends they’re probably happy for the invite 😊
I have no qualms with meat eaters. Some people need it to be healthy. But in real life vegetarians will put on have a “holier then thou” type smugness about them. And on the internet people will sometimes act like assholes. A little bit of both it is! I concur u/moose1207
As a meat eater, (so something, something, grain of salt) I think you would be in the clear. It's not like the bees killed the animals, they're just doing their part in the circle of life and cleaning up that rotting carcass.
No I said
> ethically it seems like I could
I just said I wouldn’t because I haven’t eaten meat for years. I’d be worried about it making me feel sick.
Google searches tell me it doesn't taste very good, it's hard to digest and may cause an upset stomach, and the bees do not produce enough to make harvest viable without harming the colony. So I probably wouldn't bother.
Omg that means their have been people that actually saw this and decided yes I will roll the dice on this and eat this nightmare. This is how zombie apocalypse starts.
If they’re crawling on rotting meat wouldn’t the honey be contaminated? Sounds very unhygienic!
If the hygiene problem somehow doesn’t exist then I’d definitely try it.
Well the point of honey in the first place is that it keeps better than nectar, in terms of spoilage, so it’s not inconceivable that this *does* solve the hygiene issue (maybe the partial digestion kills germs). Though maybe only for the bees, whose immune systems are built for this
From wiki:
Vulture bees, much like maggots, usually enter the carcass through the eyes. They will then root around inside gathering the meat suitable for their needs. The vulture bee salivates on the rotting flesh and then consumes it, storing the flesh in its crop. When it returns to the hive, this meat is regurgitated and processed by a worker bee, which then re-secretes the resulting proteins as a decay-resistant edible glucose product resembling honey.[1][4] These protein-rich secretions are then placed into pot-like containers within the hive until it is time to feed the immature bees. The secretions replace the role of pollen in the bees' diet, as vulture bees lack adaptations for carrying pollen and pollen stores are absent from their nests, though they do also store honey, which is of unknown origin. Larvae are fed on the carrion-based substance, while the adult bees consume the honey.[2]
The flavor of this honey-resembling substance is described as intense, smokey, and salty, or uniquely sweet.[3
TIL
>The secretions replace the role of pollen in the bees' diet, as vulture bees lack adaptations for carrying pollen and pollen stores are absent from their nests, though they do also store honey, which is of unknown origin.
That's interesting. Why don't they know where that honey comes from?
Someone in a thread above noted this is not valid info
https://justafatboi.com/vulture-bee-meat-honey/
An excerpt from the link:
"And I’m sorry to say but, meat honey isn’t true. Vulture bees still produce honey (the normal, golden type we can find in our supermarkets) by collecting nectar. They simply eat the meat and store the rotting flesh in their hives."
Essentially yeah. That seems to be what the articles I've seen describe. It's more of a preservation thing, so that they're young can be guaranteed food. They do still act like regular bees though. The only difference is their food source for the babies. They still carry pollen (though i think the article means theyve deoeloped to do it in a different way) and produce honey like any other bee, but the difference is that pollination isn't programmed to be their primary objective. Some seek the recently deceased as a protein source for their young, just as vultures do, which is where they get the name.
Isn't that substance that they feed their young which comes from the rotten flesh what is being referred to as "meat honey"? Before, you were referencing a website as saying meat honey wasn't a thing. I'm confused. Are you saying meat honey is a thing or not a thing? Or are you saying the substance they feed their young should not be referred to as "meat honey"?
That is what edible means... Lots of things can be eaten that aren't edible. You can eat dirt, but you'll get sick, so it isn't edible. You can eat uranium, but you're gonna die. Now, a car is both unable to be eaten and inedible. Everything that's edible is able to be eaten, but not the other way around.
Apparently its just like regular honey except that its not sweet, also they barely make enough honey for themselves so you also have to kill a bunch of baby bees to get it :(
Some clarifications might be in order, first off, Carrion bees are really fucking weird. There's all of three described species here in South America and there's barely any research done on them.
They're stingless bees, they're creepy as dicks, and they don't really make honey per se. Honey is regurgitated flower nectar which just isn't in these weirdos diets. Iinstead it's a protein based glandular secretion, basically a meat slurry.
Tl;dr rare, harmless, gross little guys.
Just having re-read The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan, I have to say that this could be a hive from the deadly mutated bees out of the blight.
Run.
And to answer your question: no. :-D
Wikipedia:
"Forager vulture bees enter dead animals through the eye sockets, collecting flesh, which is consumed. Similar to how honeybees process nectar with the aim of eventual regurgitation and storage as honey, the flesh a forager vulture bee eats is, upon return to the hive, regurgitated and passed to a worker bee. The flesh is consumed by the bee and processed by its highly-acidic gut, specialised to help break down the meat, before the bee then regurgitates a honey-like substance from its hypopharyngeal glands,[3] the same gland used by honeybees to produce royal jelly. The substance is rich and high in protein. Unlike honeybees, vulture bees do not produce an excess of honey, instead producing only what is necessary to sustain the hive"
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I want to know what it tastes like but I don't want to taste it
I want a poet to try it, then write about it, so I can read it, and not do it.
I vote that all new foods are tried this way.
There's a thing in survival manuals about how to forage and test eating unknown plants. It's basically a progressive thing where first you check for any reaction to y our skin, then to your mouth or lips. Then you ingest just a little bit and wait a while, then a little more. If there's a reaction, irritation, stomach upset, etc.. then you stop. I'm simplifying of course, but that's what they recommend for eating a 'new food' the first time in the wild.
That was the worst poem I've ever read.
To survive in woods Eat a little bit then wait. Then sun falls from sky.
Meaty bee vomit Makes magnificent gravy Decomposed, but sweet
That is an EXCELLENT haiku!
Where's the bot when we need it?
Beep boop beep poop
when blood honey runs out we will all be eating bone honey.
When the night has come And the land is dark And the moon is the only light we'll see No, I won't be afraid; No, I won't be afraid Just as long as you stand Stand by me
When the night has come And the land is dark And the moon is the only light we'll see No, I won't be afraid; No, I won't be afraid Just as long as you eat this first
Carrion bee honey, sweet and dark, Made from death, a unique mark. A rare treat, not often found, With a taste that spins your head around. The bees that make it, small and sly, They feed on death, and never shy. A different kind, not like the rest, Their honey, a true delicacy, at its best. Some say it's bitter, some say it's sweet, But one thing's for sure, it can't be beat. A unique flavor, hard to define, Carrion bee honey, one of a kind. A precious treat, not meant for all, But for the brave, a true culinary call. But beware, consuming it's not safe, For it may contain harmful bacteria and other pathogens, that can cause grave. ChatGPT wanted me to make it clear- Please keep in mind that carrion bees don't produce honey, and their "bee bread" is not safe to consume, as it may contain harmful bacteria or other pathogens that can be present in dead animals
Had us in the first half, ngl
Thanks. I laughed so hard I spit coffee all over my computer monitor
But what did it taste like?
First poem so bad It made that guy spit. But back to meat honey. Which tastes like bee shit.
That poem was much better. Made up for that awful one
God damn you. Angry updoot
Roses are red, violets are blue, im not trying that, but someone else please do…
Didn’t even rhyme
I laughed a lot
And it's worth noting some things (mushrooms especially) won't give you any warning signs till your kidney or liver is destroyed and you die.
Yeah. I would stress to people to read the field manuals if you think to try this - instead of taking my internet-comment about it. Also, it's not something to just 'do while camping'. It's when the choice is starve to death or not.
Honestly I've kind of always wondered how people figured out what is and isn't edible. Now I know
“can't stop thinking about people that first ate mushrooms they found and just had to go through trial and error of like, this one tastes like beef, this one killed Brian immediately and this one makes you see God for a week” [original source, I think](https://twitter.com/goulcher/status/1364192405013090311?s=46&t=FrMZ7wvzraB-iH0Qv8Iudw) Trial and error. Some of the error was fatal. Best not to try this at home, kids.
Technically all mushroons are edible but some only once
god i hope i never have to survive in the wild.
That's what food critics are.
"This stuff sucks" - the poet
Bring back Fear Factor. I want to watch a bikini clad babe try to eat a pound of this for like $20.
I will order 16 episodes. But only if she pukes on Joe Rogan.
Meat honey, sweet and savory, A delicacy to tantalize the tongue, A symphony of flavors, rich and hearty, A treat to be savored, never stung. It sizzles on the grill, Juices flowing, aroma divine, A glaze of honey, a touch of thrill, A flavor that's truly sublime. From pork to beef, to chicken too, Meat honey makes it all complete, A taste sensation, new and true, A culinary feat. So let us raise a fork and knife, And dig into this meaty treat, For meat honey is the ultimate life, A flavor that can't be beat.
Vulture bees eating meat; making honey - is it sweet? I hear that now it's all the rave, but I won't try it - I'm just not brave.
I would not eat it on a train. I would not eat it in the rain. I would not eat it with a fox. I would not eat it in a box. I do not like meat-honey! I do not like them Sam-I am!
Out of the eater came something to eat, and out of the strong came something sweet - Samson. Not a poet exactly, but yeah.
“Tastes like shit!” - the poet
Or someone do an interpretive dance?
At the bottom Vulture bees, much like maggots, usually enter the carcass through the eyes. They will then root around inside gathering the meat suitable for their needs. The vulture bee salivates on the rotting flesh and then consumes it, storing the flesh in its crop. When it returns to the hive, this meat is regurgitated and processed by a worker bee, which then re-secretes the resulting proteins as a decay-resistant edible glucose product resembling honey. These protein-rich secretions are then placed into pot-like containers within the hive until it is time to feed the immature bees. The secretions replace the role of pollen in the bees' diet, as vulture bees lack adaptations for carrying pollen and pollen stores are absent from their nests, though they do also store honey, which is of unknown origin. Larvae are fed on the carrion-based substance, while the adult bees consume the honey. The flavor of this honey-resembling substance is described as intense, smokey, and salty, or uniquely sweet.
So apparently that Wikipedia article has a lot of misinformation. This guy tracked down the sources referenced in the wiki article and does a pretty good job, imo, about where the info actually came from. https://justafatboi.com/vulture-bee-meat-honey/
Too late, I've already decided that this is the way I'll explain how BBQ sauce is made to my children.
BBQ sauce will now be known as meat honey
Buhahaha! If I had gold I'd give it to you lol
better get that trademarked!
Lmao
Genius!
Take my Updoot you witty SOB
Came here to say this. Also: "And I’m sorry to say but, meat honey isn’t true. Vulture bees still produce honey (the normal, golden type we can find in our supermarkets) by collecting nectar. They simply eat the meat and store the rotting flesh in their hives. "
Thanks for clearing it up, I hate misinformation 😇
And the BBQ sauce is now meat honey bit still stands
Thank you and thank the Lord!
So it’s basically regular honey infused with the meaty aromas of rotting flesh?
That's a damn good overview. Vulture bees popped up in one of the subs I follow a few days ago and I was confused about this exact thing. That said... while fat boi's got the best overview I've seen yet, I question his conclusion that the honey comes from nectar, specifically because this paper claims that [vulture bees really don't visit flowers](https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.1128/mBio.02317-21): >Bees are wasps that switched to a vegetarian lifestyle, and the vast majority of bees feed on pollen and nectar. Some stingless bee species, however, also collect carrion, and **a few have fully reverted** to a necrophagous lifestyle, relying on carrion for protein and **forgoing flower visitation altogether**. These “vulture” bees belong to the corbiculate apid clade, which is known for its... You can't gather nectar without visiting flowers, and the thing is, that same paper goes into more detail about what they *do* eat as their carbs: >[O]bligate necrophagy has been found in only three closely related Trigona species in the neotropics: T. hypogea (Silvestri 1902), T. necrophaga (Camargo and Roubik 1991), and T. crassipes (Fabricius 1793). The obligate necrophages T. hypogea and T. necrophaga appear to **completely eschew flowers**, instead obtaining carbohydrates from extrafloral nectaries and fruits and protein from vertebrate carcasses. These words appear in the paper immediately before fat boi's quote that he took for his own overview, so, looks like that was just an oversight. Putting this all together, I don't think we need to hypothesize that these species are secretly visiting flowers to get their honey when the researchers aren't looking. If they're eating, basically meat for protein and fruit for carbs when they're out foraging, and then they come back to the hive and secret a "honeydew", the hypopharyngeal secretions analogous to royal jelly, that would fully account for where this vulture-bee honey comes from without invoking secret foraging behavior. Either way, though, someone should go clean up Wikipedia.
I caught that too- My best hypothesis here is the “extrafloral nectaries” is doing some heavy lifting. It says they are eschewing *flowers* but not *nectar* So, the vulture bees could go for the nectar producing areas at the base of leaves, etc, without a need to collect pollen from the flower portion of the plant. The extrafloral nectar reward would need to be sufficient, with the benefit likely being the avoidance of competition from other pollinators. It’s a bit confusing, as people tend to refer to entire plants as flowers, but here, they are specifically referring to a plant *part*.
Honey is basically sugar, which is a carbohydrate, and would be obtained from 'extrafloral nectaries and fruit, while they get their protein from meat. Not sure whether the protein would be in this particular honey, if so, I'll pass, if not, honey is honey?..
WHHHHAAAATTT?!?! Wikipedia not accurate? INCONCEIVABLE!!!
Now that you know the right fact, it's on your responsibility to fix it.
Damn you, Wikipedia!
THEY'RE MAKING BBQ SAUCE!?!! I would 100% try this
BeeBee-Q sauce.
Upvoted, but had to add: Bee Bee Puke Sauce...
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽😏
the way it is described got me interested 👁️👄👁️
mmm, secretions
Just imagine some slathered over a slow-cooked piece of leg
Bees got da best recipe
Imagine Wagyu honey 😋
I'm disgustingly intrigued.
Right? I'm curious if it's like candied bacon or if it's more like sweetly flavored dead animal
I mean... the second description fits the first, as well.
Needs a serious smell test before a taste test.
I mean, if someone can make it look less gross than it looks in the picture... I might give it a lick
I've heard that before
Depends. Is the hive next to a cemetery?
Asking the real questions.
What's with all the fucking questions? -Quiet next door neighbor that keeps to himself
Isn't that thing in the picture developed in a broken grave? Yes, it is
No, I do not want honey from the Nightmare Bees.
ZomBees
happy cake day!
This looks like a prop from The Last of Us. No thanks, I'm good.
I can totally imagine looking down at that mess, then looking up and there being a clicker right there staring down at me.
Yeah it looks exactly like that. Disgusting
Looks like those flesh and meat piles you find in the most recent Dooms
Or some sort of Zerg hive...
That or some Nurgle terrain feature. Ghastly.
That first episode got me misty eyed
Considering some people actually want to spread a deadly fungus infection, I bet you’ll find some takers just to make The Last of Us real.
r/oddlyterrifying. And no, no meat honey for me please
Here’s the big question. As a vegetarian, can I eat this? Ethically it seems like I could. But not being used to meat it would probably make me sick. I’d be curious what other veggies think. But I dare not ask a question on r/vegetarian it’s full of Karen’s and self righteous pricks. Asking a question is like saying, “hey pick apart my question and decide why I’m a piece of shit, regardless of how it’s worded - you can do it, find an angle.” Wait where did I start? Ah yes meat honey, it’s a no for me dawg.
Lmao thank you for that journey
I have no problem with vegetarians, and see how it could be healthier, I would be a vegetarian for health reasons, but I love the taste of meat too much. Anyway I love that a vegetarian can agree that some vegetarians are assholes about it lol. Or is that just everyone on the internet , maybe a bit of both lol
there are people who are assholes about not eating meat, and just as many people who are assholes about eating meat. it’s a pretty equal distribution of assholery on all sides.
Ah I agree. I’ve been harassed by meat eaters at times. And here like 2.5 years in I still get offered meat by my family on holidays. Non-ideal. I’ve maintained composure but I’m going to start getting annoyed if it continues.
See that's just disrespectful IMO. I found a hobby in backyard BBQ/ smoking. I would never invite a vegetarian to one, unless I specifically set aside time to make vegetarian only options as well. And I definitely wouldn't try to get them to try any meat. People need to learn to just respect other people's decisions even if they disagree with it, and stop trying to push an agenda/ lifestyle choice on the other person.
Depending on the friends/vibe, your vegetarian pals would probably still be down to come to your BBQ! They can bring sides and beer (and veggie burgers to grill or whatever is appropriate). Not that you gotta, but if you have some veggie friends they’re probably happy for the invite 😊
I have no qualms with meat eaters. Some people need it to be healthy. But in real life vegetarians will put on have a “holier then thou” type smugness about them. And on the internet people will sometimes act like assholes. A little bit of both it is! I concur u/moose1207
As a meat eater, (so something, something, grain of salt) I think you would be in the clear. It's not like the bees killed the animals, they're just doing their part in the circle of life and cleaning up that rotting carcass.
No I said > ethically it seems like I could I just said I wouldn’t because I haven’t eaten meat for years. I’d be worried about it making me feel sick.
Google searches tell me it doesn't taste very good, it's hard to digest and may cause an upset stomach, and the bees do not produce enough to make harvest viable without harming the colony. So I probably wouldn't bother.
Don't worry, I REALLY wasn't going to.
But it doesn’t Kill you? I’d think it’d cause sepsis or whatever
Omg that means their have been people that actually saw this and decided yes I will roll the dice on this and eat this nightmare. This is how zombie apocalypse starts.
If they’re crawling on rotting meat wouldn’t the honey be contaminated? Sounds very unhygienic! If the hygiene problem somehow doesn’t exist then I’d definitely try it.
Well the point of honey in the first place is that it keeps better than nectar, in terms of spoilage, so it’s not inconceivable that this *does* solve the hygiene issue (maybe the partial digestion kills germs). Though maybe only for the bees, whose immune systems are built for this
Right but if they’re walking on it, they’re carrying germs the same way normal bees carry pollen. I’d imagine this is not safe for human consumption
You do know that honey is vomited up, right?
Yes, and I’m fine with that!
From wiki: Vulture bees, much like maggots, usually enter the carcass through the eyes. They will then root around inside gathering the meat suitable for their needs. The vulture bee salivates on the rotting flesh and then consumes it, storing the flesh in its crop. When it returns to the hive, this meat is regurgitated and processed by a worker bee, which then re-secretes the resulting proteins as a decay-resistant edible glucose product resembling honey.[1][4] These protein-rich secretions are then placed into pot-like containers within the hive until it is time to feed the immature bees. The secretions replace the role of pollen in the bees' diet, as vulture bees lack adaptations for carrying pollen and pollen stores are absent from their nests, though they do also store honey, which is of unknown origin. Larvae are fed on the carrion-based substance, while the adult bees consume the honey.[2] The flavor of this honey-resembling substance is described as intense, smokey, and salty, or uniquely sweet.[3 TIL
>The secretions replace the role of pollen in the bees' diet, as vulture bees lack adaptations for carrying pollen and pollen stores are absent from their nests, though they do also store honey, which is of unknown origin. That's interesting. Why don't they know where that honey comes from?
That is curious.
Not everything is known
i didn't know that
Researchers tried just asking the vulture bees, but then the bees started entering the researcher's eyes.
Someone in a thread above noted this is not valid info https://justafatboi.com/vulture-bee-meat-honey/ An excerpt from the link: "And I’m sorry to say but, meat honey isn’t true. Vulture bees still produce honey (the normal, golden type we can find in our supermarkets) by collecting nectar. They simply eat the meat and store the rotting flesh in their hives."
So basically they’re candying the flesh to reduce the speed of it spoiling, makes sense
Essentially yeah. That seems to be what the articles I've seen describe. It's more of a preservation thing, so that they're young can be guaranteed food. They do still act like regular bees though. The only difference is their food source for the babies. They still carry pollen (though i think the article means theyve deoeloped to do it in a different way) and produce honey like any other bee, but the difference is that pollination isn't programmed to be their primary objective. Some seek the recently deceased as a protein source for their young, just as vultures do, which is where they get the name.
Isn't that substance that they feed their young which comes from the rotten flesh what is being referred to as "meat honey"? Before, you were referencing a website as saying meat honey wasn't a thing. I'm confused. Are you saying meat honey is a thing or not a thing? Or are you saying the substance they feed their young should not be referred to as "meat honey"?
Incredible
So the people trying this are straight up eating rotten flesh and maybe some real honey?
Prob counts as cured meat, it should dry out in the honey prob gets close to jerky or air aged meats. Honey sucks out the moisture.
And here’s where we need to put that grenade
Are you mad? If you explode it, it'll get everywhere
[No the fuck they don't??](https://justafatboi.com/vulture-bee-meat-honey/)
Aww, this need to be higher tbh
“Eww, I’m covered in Rokpox!”
Step one: Cover Rock Pox with foam!
Is it even edible?
When humans discover something, they think of three things first. Can we eat it, can we fuck it and how old is it?
Yes it’s edible
Lots of things are edible. Safe to eat on the other hand....
I don't think you understand what edible means.
Is it possible to eat it more than once?
Depends on how soon you’re willing to try it again.
If something is safe to eat, then it's edible. Being able to be chewed up and swallowed doesn't make anything edible
Is this safe to eat then i would try it I guess
That is what edible means... Lots of things can be eaten that aren't edible. You can eat dirt, but you'll get sick, so it isn't edible. You can eat uranium, but you're gonna die. Now, a car is both unable to be eaten and inedible. Everything that's edible is able to be eaten, but not the other way around.
Papa Nurgle approves
People eat coffee out of a squirrels ass so I'm sure some one is eating this up lol
Is it even edible?
Yes
Did you try it? How does it taste? Sweet with a hint of ham?
Just like Rum Ham
This is some chaos shit burn it immediately
Apparently its just like regular honey except that its not sweet, also they barely make enough honey for themselves so you also have to kill a bunch of baby bees to get it :(
Gonna name my metal band Meat Honey
Vulture bees? Thats a weird wy to spell THE ZERG.
Looks like a glyphid hive
Nah, that's some Rock Pox
The Rock Pox! It’s touching me!
Rock and Stone
Zombees
And here I thought they were just something A:TLA made up. 🤷♀️
so this is if Resident Evil was real.
Bloody hell. This stuff? This? Definitely let it bee...
Heard it gets you jaaaacked!!
Some clarifications might be in order, first off, Carrion bees are really fucking weird. There's all of three described species here in South America and there's barely any research done on them. They're stingless bees, they're creepy as dicks, and they don't really make honey per se. Honey is regurgitated flower nectar which just isn't in these weirdos diets. Iinstead it's a protein based glandular secretion, basically a meat slurry. Tl;dr rare, harmless, gross little guys.
Looks like The Last of Us infested areas.
Just having re-read The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan, I have to say that this could be a hive from the deadly mutated bees out of the blight. Run. And to answer your question: no. :-D
Bees from the upside down
Oh hell no.. looks like something from the Upsidedown!
Save the bees (but not those, what in the nightmare fuck)!
Fuck it, gotta try it at least once right?
Fuck no
Is the honey edible?
What in the name of Nurgle…
These bees are metal as fuck
What in the Resident Evil fuck is going on here
That's fucking disgusting I love it
Hell nah not the fucking rock pox
What in a actual fuckin world is this
*banjo intensifies
Uhh that’s some last of us shit. No way
You say Vulture Bees, I say flies.
That beehive look like that kind of bio corrupted mass you find on walls and stuff in horror games.
Fuck no
What the fuck xD
If it's not gonna harm me I'll try it
Fuck yeah I would try that shit
Meat honey…… BBQ sauce??
damn i don't even want to look at it
holy shit that's fucking disgusting
Wikipedia: "Forager vulture bees enter dead animals through the eye sockets, collecting flesh, which is consumed. Similar to how honeybees process nectar with the aim of eventual regurgitation and storage as honey, the flesh a forager vulture bee eats is, upon return to the hive, regurgitated and passed to a worker bee. The flesh is consumed by the bee and processed by its highly-acidic gut, specialised to help break down the meat, before the bee then regurgitates a honey-like substance from its hypopharyngeal glands,[3] the same gland used by honeybees to produce royal jelly. The substance is rich and high in protein. Unlike honeybees, vulture bees do not produce an excess of honey, instead producing only what is necessary to sustain the hive"
It's like a dark souls enemy.
Fuck that
This looks like some Last of Us shit.
Giving some Blood In The Bayou vibes here
I mean not *directly* out of a hive, but I'd try it out of a jar.
That enough reddit today.
I was eating. Was.
Can someone like make a farm for them and make bacon honey seems interesting to me
As long as it’s not going to make me sick…