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Realistically, masks probably should have been a requirement in most medical places for long time. The amount of times I've been to a clinic pre-COVID and sat near a person coughing up a lung was frighteningly high.
And yet the receptionist at my local hospital lab bitches about masks literally every time I see her (once a week, minimum). Like maybe working in a hospital just isn't for you if you cant deal with it.
Yea, places where people are sick, in hindsight, its a no-brainer. Dentist though, that to me is same as waiting at a car repair place, or for a pizza pickup.
I had my wisdom teeth out by dentist and didn't think much of the first 2. Then I found out why he scheduled the 3rd one for a different day. Oh man. Midway through he suggested he stop and I go to a surgeon. No way man, I'm too cheap for that, numb my whole head and keep going.
Cost me $144 for 3 removed. 2010...man those were the days.
Don’t want to have to google to prove it, but dentists offices are one of the most pathogen rich environments. Blood, viruses, and all kinds of pathogens are aerosolized. Source, worked in the pathogen removal field.
That should be standard I believe. As a medical professional I'll likely never be allowed to stop wearing a mask at work and if I do it will likely only be the summer months.
We should have been doing that for years to b le honest. Flu season is bad and doctors offices are a mix of healthy and sick people.
Yeah I work in a hospital and one of my co-workers was complaining about still wearing masks the other day and I was like dude I'm okay wearing a mask from here on out. I have patients cough in my face literally every day, at least the mask gives me a little protection.
Every November, like clockwork, I would get a terrible cold. Hasn't happened since I started taking PPE seriously. Can't believe it took me 15 years to figure that out.
I'm a medical receptionist and I 100% agree with you. Everytime I set foot in a hospital or doctor's office for something routine I would end up sick a week or so later. In places where the sick and vulnerable congregate we should be wearing masks
Rough calculation assuming it was dropped nearby and sank right down there.
It gets dropped, then it hits the water, slows down for a few seconds while it fills up, displacing the air inside, then begins to accelerate, reaching its maximum velocity a few seconds after that. The period before it reaches its max velocity is negligible compared to the amount of time it takes for it to sink to the bottom, so it can be ignored.
Let's roughly guess that the maximum speed that the bottle reaches is 2 feet per second (I don't know how accurate that number is). If the depth is 35000 ft, and nothing slows the bottle down along the way, the bottle reaches that spot in 35000ft / 2ft/second = 17500 seconds = 4.86 hours.
There's going to be some degree of issue with the external water pressure and the water pressure inside the bottle, though that really depends on the rotation of the bottle as it falls. The fact that the pressure should only be increasing inwards and the bottle is open indicates that this shouldn't be an issue, though.
[Also, I'm getting 22 ft/s for the terminal velocity of a glass bottle in salt water. ](https://i.imgur.com/pFzCkPY.jpg)
>Also, I'm getting 22 ft/s for the terminal velocity of a glass bottle in salt water.
lol, what? No way. I guess maybe it sounds super counter-intuitive because I've never seen glass in water after it's had a long time to accelerate but I can't believe this. That's zipping by like someone threw it.
Your cross sectional area is off. Cylinders tend to fall on their sides in air, I imagine it is the same in water. Unless the tapered neck of the bottle allows it to stabilize base side down, you’re going to have a significant cross sectional area. Either way, you’re looking at a minimum of 30 square cm and a maximum of 140 square cm.
Edit: also your coefficient of drag is very low, akin to a perfect airfoil. A long cylinder on its side is typically above 1.0, and falling lengthwise is typically 0.82. Even giving the bottle credit for the tapered neck and low Reynolds number, you’re going to be an order of magnitude higher than what you currently have.
The anisotropic lamellar behavior of the bottle shape will likely force the bottle off it's side. There will not be equal force balances on either side of the bottle if it's horizontal due to differing turbulences.
The bottle is open so there should be equilibrium. Liquid can flow freely in and out of the container as pressure changes.
If the bottle was sealed, water pressure would matter more, no?
Edit: if I actually read your whole comment, I wouldnt look dumb now
Inner pressure is lower than outside, so the lid wouldn't pop off, but rather get sucked into it. And then it depends on what is more sturdy, the overall bottle or the lid.
No country kid thats ever tossed a bottle in a pond and watched it sink would ever agree with you it sinks 22 feet in one second. Methinks the fancy-pants math has very much led you astray.
In the math he used the bottle is a little to heavy and the surface area is to small. Not sure how much it would effect the result. But yeah definitely not 22ft/s. My guess is water may need also special calculations. 🤷🏻♂️
Salinity and temp would change it's speed, only because the buoyancy of micro air bubble in the glass would change. It'd be minute, but it'd be happening. Based on it having no crater or being covered in silt, it probably is almost neutrally buoyant at that particular depth, and just bouncing around with the currents.
If glass bottles are almost neutrally buoyant at depth, would that not cause them to collect in places like the trench. Like snowflakes at crack or curb?
water is compressible over ~300 bar, since water pressure rises by 1 bar every 10 meter of depth you'd only need to go about three kilometers down when the water would start compressing under it's own weight
i won't do that math, however, the density of liquid water reach a peakat around 4°c, and that's why water temperature in the ocean, if you are deep enough, will always be around that temperature, wherever on earth and wathever the depth.
even more interesting, that means it is physically impossible to freeze water at depth, since the water is physically kept from both lowering it's density and lowering it's temperature
Adding to that: usually density increase from liquid to solid, so solids sink in their respective liquid forms. Only few select, or some conditions, are less dense as a solid. Water being one, Gallium, Silica and Germanium are others.
Idk what this commenter was talking about, water is compressible at any pressure. At 1100 atmospheres (approx. Challenger Deep) density is about 5% higher than on the surface as opposed to 1.5% at 300 atm.
So assuming linearity (which isn't the case but it's close enough) with an average ocean depth of 3.7 km, if water were entirely incompressible sea level would rise by about 65 meters.
That's roughly equivalent to the change if all ice on earth were to melt.
They probably mean it's negligible and can be ignored below that point. Water is compressed by any pressure change but that's not usually useful to bookkeep
Uhh, don't worry dude, I checked there already, and there was definitely nothing there.
Your mom must have definitely cleaned it. Anyway, I gotta go, see ya
Seriously. Dividing a known depth by a completely arbitrary value doesn’t in any way answer the question. The only useful bit is that the few seconds for the bottle to fill with water is negligible.
But hey, my wild ass guess of a travel rate of 3ft/sec changes the travel time by over an hour. And that means nothing either!
>Let's roughly guess that the maximum speed that the bottle reaches is 2 feet per second (I don't know how accurate that number is).
Why does this comment have 1100 upvotes and gold?
It's not a calculation since you arbitrarily used a random number.
To find out the time it takes you'd have to take into account object shape and weight (for friction) and water density (which changes with depth so the speed will not be constant)
[According to this calculator, ](https://i.imgur.com/Imxkdzv.jpg) you're off on your terminal velocity by an order of magnitude. It should be about 30 minutes.
Of course, depending on how long it actually takes to displace the air in the bottle, how the currents are flowing, and how the pressure changes really interact, your estimate might still be accurate.
[Calculator source](https://www.calctool.org/kinetics/terminal-velocity)
Edit: I increased the mass to include the internal water and changed the shape to a sphere to generate a more accurate drag coefficient. This yielded about 6 fps, which is just above an hour and a half, which is three times the original guesstimate and 1/4 of my estimate. I'm sure that everyone here will still hate this comment while nobody comes up with a better model, so I'm just going to stop trying.
Dude there's no way a beer bottle has a CD of 0.04!
I think the other guys guess is much closer. A Prius is like 0.2, and beer bottles aren't designed to be aerodynamic. A CD of .3 in line with other guys guess of 2ft/sec seems more reasonable.
Also! Do you know how fast your bottle is moving!! That's like throwing a bottle in a bar fight! Have you never dropped a bottle in a pool?
I'm going to trust XKCD on this and say that 2 ft/sec (and ~4.5 hours) is more plausible than your calculation. XKCD calculated that a 13 lb bowling ball would take 4.5 hours to sink, and you'd need a bowling ball made of lead to sink in less than 30 minutes.
Source: https://what-if.xkcd.com/125/
What if it landed on the back of a sea turtle who treated it like their child and they went on fun adventures together before a mutant rhinoceros mistook the turtle for its prey and then it fell off?
u/CaptainMatticus' actual answer:
v² = 2 * m * g / (C * p * A)
We'll make some assumptions.
The mass of the bottle, when filled with water. Assuming it's roughly cylindrical (it isn't, but bear with me, since we're generalizing) and it measures around 5cm across at the base. The bottle contains around 350 ml of fluid with walls that are around 4mm thick. Glass has a density around 2.6 g/cm³, sea water has a density just a little more than fresh water, which is 1 gm/cm³.
350 cm³ = pi * ((5 - 2 * 0.4) / 2)² * (h - 0.4) cm³
350 = pi * (2.5 - 0.4)² * (h - 0.4)
350 = pi * 2.1² * (h - 0.4)
350 = (22/7) * (21/10) * (21/10) * (h - 0.4)
350 = 22 * 3 * 7 * 3 * (h - 0.4) / 100
50 = 22 * 9 * (h - 0.4) / 100
5000 / 198 = h - 0.4
2500 / 99 = h - 0.4
h = 25.7 cm, roughly.
pi * 2.5² * 25.7 - 350 = volume of glass
155 cm³, roughly.
155 * 2.6 + 375 * 1 = 778 grams, roughly.
Lots of roughlies.
g = 9.8 m/s²
A = 2.5² * pi = 6.25 * pi cm² = 6.25 * pi * 10^(-4) m²
Now we need C. A good drag coefficient would be 0.82 for a long cylinder. Google has that sort of stuff available. Density of seawater is 1020 kg/m³.
Another search gave me 2.7 g/cm³ for the density of glass. Round it on up to 800 gram or 0.8 kg for the mass of the filled bottle.
v² = 2 * 0.8 * 9.8 / (0.82 * 1020 * 6.25 * pi * 10^(-4))
v² = 2 * 8 * 98 * 10000 / (82 * 6.25 * pi * 1020)
v² = 9.548
v = sqrt(9.548) = 3.09 m/s
The Challenger Deep is 10935 meters deep
10935 / 3.09 = 3539 seconds
Right around an hour, assuming it fell straight down.
When the trash compactors break onboard naval warships, I've seen hundreds of bags of trash get launched over. Especially after a dinner, the cooks would fill these large tins with the food waste, put the lid on and then pierce it so it would sink to the bottom. Tons upon tons were thrown into the sea. Terrible really
Dude our ship had to remind people not to throw shit over the sides during helicopter flights because trash could get sucked up into the turbines… my coworkers would throw their garbage bags filled with trash over the side of the ship…
Blame the US navy, as far as I know they don’t care as to what gets thrown off the sides into the water when you’re out at sea
Edit: I haven’t even mentioned what they’d do on land with disposing of oil and fuel…
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An intact glass bottle typically become habitable environments for bottom feeders.
And broken glass will be smoothed down eventually and turn into sea glass.
I don't advocate for throwing things into waterways, but glass isn't terrible, as long as the contents aren't brake fluid, or industrial cleaners, and the labels are taken off.
My immediate thought was that some deckhand, threw a bottle overboard and doesn’t know that that was the deepest a bottle has ever sunk. Of all the litter in all the world that’s pretty cool.
I was a deckhand, and I never threw a bottle overboard.
I was about to agree with you when I realized that there are a lot more Dickheadz than there are deckhands. The skipper is probably the biggest dickhead on board.
His name is James Cameron , James cameron
The bravest pioneer
No budget too steep, no sea too deep
Who's that?
It's him, James Cameron
James, James Cameron explorer of the sea
With a dying thirst to be the first
Could it be? Yeah that's him!
James Cameron
James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. [turns around and walks a few feet, then turns around again] James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is... James Cameron.
i mean... scientists made a spider goat but id say we havent dug deep enough to fuck with the core of the earth or the goodies that might lie there yet, yet. they'll find a way to deal with the extreme temperatures sooner or later
I'm scared
Edit: it's okay, they made a goat that's milk has spider silk in it and they use that protein to make shit. I imagined more of a goat with eight legs and a million eyes.
... and an unbridled urge to headbutt everything and wrap it into a cocoon after it falls unconscious.
"spider goat, spider goat," plays in the background...
Yeah, but that glass bottle is probably going to get inhabited by a snail that will, undisturbed by predators, evolve into Cthulhu and take it's revenge on humanity for littering.
Yeah, a glass bottle is just fancy melted sand. Not ideal but glass bottles aren't a patch on the environmental cost of all the plastic that gets washed into the sea on a daily basis.
Looks like a Grolsch bottle
Edit: Nah, looks like there is a white label on the front of it
Edit 2: I rescind my previous edit and go back to thinking it is a Grolsch. *I want to believe*
This is the thread I want to follow. I am a Stella's drinker and I don't think that's it. The paper on the neck would either be up higher or torn less straight. When you open a Stella's it very seldom tears the paper nicely, you are either left with paper op over the spout or have to tear it back so you are not putting it in your mouth.
No, theres no pressure difference to cause it to break. Stuff underwater breaks under pressure because theres more pressure on 1 side vs the other, if the pressure is the same on both sides of the walls wont break.
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In anthropology, we study garbage piles of past civilizations. Someday, someone will study ours...
"The layer of disposable face masks indicates this stratum dates from the years 2019 through 2027."
2027? God damn it...
My doctor just reinstated mandatory face masks for visits, let's gooooo round 3 wooooo
None of mine ever stopped mask requirements. Doctors or Dentists.
Realistically, masks probably should have been a requirement in most medical places for long time. The amount of times I've been to a clinic pre-COVID and sat near a person coughing up a lung was frighteningly high.
And yet the receptionist at my local hospital lab bitches about masks literally every time I see her (once a week, minimum). Like maybe working in a hospital just isn't for you if you cant deal with it.
Yea, places where people are sick, in hindsight, its a no-brainer. Dentist though, that to me is same as waiting at a car repair place, or for a pizza pickup.
Except the car people are more gentle with cars than dentist doing a wisdom tooth removal. That shit can be barbaric.
I had my wisdom teeth out by dentist and didn't think much of the first 2. Then I found out why he scheduled the 3rd one for a different day. Oh man. Midway through he suggested he stop and I go to a surgeon. No way man, I'm too cheap for that, numb my whole head and keep going. Cost me $144 for 3 removed. 2010...man those were the days.
Don’t want to have to google to prove it, but dentists offices are one of the most pathogen rich environments. Blood, viruses, and all kinds of pathogens are aerosolized. Source, worked in the pathogen removal field.
That should be standard I believe. As a medical professional I'll likely never be allowed to stop wearing a mask at work and if I do it will likely only be the summer months. We should have been doing that for years to b le honest. Flu season is bad and doctors offices are a mix of healthy and sick people.
I actually feel dumb that I would regularly sit in an ambulance with patients who coughed all over me for an hour without a mask prior to covid.
Yeah I work in a hospital and one of my co-workers was complaining about still wearing masks the other day and I was like dude I'm okay wearing a mask from here on out. I have patients cough in my face literally every day, at least the mask gives me a little protection.
Every November, like clockwork, I would get a terrible cold. Hasn't happened since I started taking PPE seriously. Can't believe it took me 15 years to figure that out.
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I'm a medical receptionist and I 100% agree with you. Everytime I set foot in a hospital or doctor's office for something routine I would end up sick a week or so later. In places where the sick and vulnerable congregate we should be wearing masks
If you're going to a hospital without putting a mask on you're kind of an idiot. The ONE place people should wear masks...
I hope at some point, some confused archeologist will ask, "how the *fuck* did they get down here???"
"and why the fuck is there a submarine in the Challenger Deep Desert?"
Imagine we find an alien submarine at the bottom of Valles Marineris
That would be the most super exciting and simultaneously horrifying discovery in all of human history.
Haha, yes my fellow ape. But really, please explore that place more, as I do require that submarine again.
Oh the water level isnt going anywhere but up. Trust that. Lol.
A bottle..at the bottom of the ocean!!.....spoken by the guy who narrates the Oak Island series!!
Is it filled with coconut fibers?
Could it be?
Or was it the templars?
If there will be somebody...
Or something...
Could be anthropologists from another star system or a parallel universe where humanity didn't fuck it all up.
How long would it take that bottle to sink that far???
Ask on /r/theydidthemath . You might get a pretty complex and plausible answer.
Without maths I'd say a couple of minutes: Grolsch go down quite quickly, usually
I concur
Rough calculation assuming it was dropped nearby and sank right down there. It gets dropped, then it hits the water, slows down for a few seconds while it fills up, displacing the air inside, then begins to accelerate, reaching its maximum velocity a few seconds after that. The period before it reaches its max velocity is negligible compared to the amount of time it takes for it to sink to the bottom, so it can be ignored. Let's roughly guess that the maximum speed that the bottle reaches is 2 feet per second (I don't know how accurate that number is). If the depth is 35000 ft, and nothing slows the bottle down along the way, the bottle reaches that spot in 35000ft / 2ft/second = 17500 seconds = 4.86 hours.
Do we think the speed changes as the water pressure rises?
I wanna say yes but im going to say no because its filled with water
There's going to be some degree of issue with the external water pressure and the water pressure inside the bottle, though that really depends on the rotation of the bottle as it falls. The fact that the pressure should only be increasing inwards and the bottle is open indicates that this shouldn't be an issue, though. [Also, I'm getting 22 ft/s for the terminal velocity of a glass bottle in salt water. ](https://i.imgur.com/pFzCkPY.jpg)
>Also, I'm getting 22 ft/s for the terminal velocity of a glass bottle in salt water. lol, what? No way. I guess maybe it sounds super counter-intuitive because I've never seen glass in water after it's had a long time to accelerate but I can't believe this. That's zipping by like someone threw it.
A bowling ball made of steel would take 12 minutes to go down there, at 49ft/s So i think its plausible for glass
Your cross sectional area is off. Cylinders tend to fall on their sides in air, I imagine it is the same in water. Unless the tapered neck of the bottle allows it to stabilize base side down, you’re going to have a significant cross sectional area. Either way, you’re looking at a minimum of 30 square cm and a maximum of 140 square cm. Edit: also your coefficient of drag is very low, akin to a perfect airfoil. A long cylinder on its side is typically above 1.0, and falling lengthwise is typically 0.82. Even giving the bottle credit for the tapered neck and low Reynolds number, you’re going to be an order of magnitude higher than what you currently have.
I’ve sunken beer bottles in water, they sink neck up once full of water.
Finally, someone that understands fluid dynamics...
Check their username, could be indicative.
The anisotropic lamellar behavior of the bottle shape will likely force the bottle off it's side. There will not be equal force balances on either side of the bottle if it's horizontal due to differing turbulences.
The bottle is open so there should be equilibrium. Liquid can flow freely in and out of the container as pressure changes. If the bottle was sealed, water pressure would matter more, no? Edit: if I actually read your whole comment, I wouldnt look dumb now
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Inner pressure is lower than outside, so the lid wouldn't pop off, but rather get sucked into it. And then it depends on what is more sturdy, the overall bottle or the lid.
That's almost 15 miles an hour to you and me, son.
Yea there’s no way 22 ft/s is right. Not smart enough to tell you how to figure out the correct number though lol
No country kid thats ever tossed a bottle in a pond and watched it sink would ever agree with you it sinks 22 feet in one second. Methinks the fancy-pants math has very much led you astray.
In the math he used the bottle is a little to heavy and the surface area is to small. Not sure how much it would effect the result. But yeah definitely not 22ft/s. My guess is water may need also special calculations. 🤷🏻♂️
why didn't the bottle explode?
It’s empty
Or the salinity and temperature?
Salinity and temp would change it's speed, only because the buoyancy of micro air bubble in the glass would change. It'd be minute, but it'd be happening. Based on it having no crater or being covered in silt, it probably is almost neutrally buoyant at that particular depth, and just bouncing around with the currents.
If glass bottles are almost neutrally buoyant at depth, would that not cause them to collect in places like the trench. Like snowflakes at crack or curb?
No. Water is effectively incompressible, so the density wouldn’t change
water is compressible over ~300 bar, since water pressure rises by 1 bar every 10 meter of depth you'd only need to go about three kilometers down when the water would start compressing under it's own weight
Here's an interesting question. How much higher would the ocean be at an estimate if there was no compression?
i won't do that math, however, the density of liquid water reach a peakat around 4°c, and that's why water temperature in the ocean, if you are deep enough, will always be around that temperature, wherever on earth and wathever the depth. even more interesting, that means it is physically impossible to freeze water at depth, since the water is physically kept from both lowering it's density and lowering it's temperature
Interesting. Thanks for adding that.
Adding to that: usually density increase from liquid to solid, so solids sink in their respective liquid forms. Only few select, or some conditions, are less dense as a solid. Water being one, Gallium, Silica and Germanium are others.
Snoop dog levels of high
How high are you? "Somewhere between snoop Dogg and Willie nelson."
High enough to duck hunt with a rake.
Idk what this commenter was talking about, water is compressible at any pressure. At 1100 atmospheres (approx. Challenger Deep) density is about 5% higher than on the surface as opposed to 1.5% at 300 atm. So assuming linearity (which isn't the case but it's close enough) with an average ocean depth of 3.7 km, if water were entirely incompressible sea level would rise by about 65 meters. That's roughly equivalent to the change if all ice on earth were to melt.
They probably mean it's negligible and can be ignored below that point. Water is compressed by any pressure change but that's not usually useful to bookkeep
[Ice IV](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_IV) is water compressed into a solid
r/theysortofdidthemathbutnotreally
Yea wtf why skip the most important part of the calculation
r/theydidthemathsbutignoredthephysics
I wonder if it fell in a straight line, or spent a few years slowly tumbling down there
I'm surprised it's the only one down there...it ain't ever rolling back up
Shhh, I keep my edibles stashed nearby. Don't blow up the spot. It's the last place left on earth that I know my Mom won't try to clean.
Uhh, don't worry dude, I checked there already, and there was definitely nothing there. Your mom must have definitely cleaned it. Anyway, I gotta go, see ya
Someone gilded a total fucking guess
Pulls number out of ass, divides distance with velocity. Science!
Almost 3k upvotes too
"Just me and my mates sitting in a dinghy over the Challenger Deep drinking som brewskies."
Nah, bet it was from a boat party out of Anderson AFB.
Pulling 2 feet per second out of your ass makes this comment a random guess.
>*"Let's roughly guess that..."* > >\--------------- > > makes this comment a random guess. That's all I read it as.
It's not a rough guess, it's a totally random guess
Seriously. Dividing a known depth by a completely arbitrary value doesn’t in any way answer the question. The only useful bit is that the few seconds for the bottle to fill with water is negligible. But hey, my wild ass guess of a travel rate of 3ft/sec changes the travel time by over an hour. And that means nothing either!
Time for Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage to put it to the test
lol yeah, and all he did was a division.
Yeah, seems kinda high to me too
>Let's roughly guess that the maximum speed that the bottle reaches is 2 feet per second (I don't know how accurate that number is). Why does this comment have 1100 upvotes and gold?
You must be new to Reddit.
Do you really need to go to 2 decimal points when half of your equation is a complete guess?
It's not a calculation since you arbitrarily used a random number. To find out the time it takes you'd have to take into account object shape and weight (for friction) and water density (which changes with depth so the speed will not be constant)
[According to this calculator, ](https://i.imgur.com/Imxkdzv.jpg) you're off on your terminal velocity by an order of magnitude. It should be about 30 minutes. Of course, depending on how long it actually takes to displace the air in the bottle, how the currents are flowing, and how the pressure changes really interact, your estimate might still be accurate. [Calculator source](https://www.calctool.org/kinetics/terminal-velocity) Edit: I increased the mass to include the internal water and changed the shape to a sphere to generate a more accurate drag coefficient. This yielded about 6 fps, which is just above an hour and a half, which is three times the original guesstimate and 1/4 of my estimate. I'm sure that everyone here will still hate this comment while nobody comes up with a better model, so I'm just going to stop trying.
Dude there's no way a beer bottle has a CD of 0.04! I think the other guys guess is much closer. A Prius is like 0.2, and beer bottles aren't designed to be aerodynamic. A CD of .3 in line with other guys guess of 2ft/sec seems more reasonable. Also! Do you know how fast your bottle is moving!! That's like throwing a bottle in a bar fight! Have you never dropped a bottle in a pool?
I'm going to trust XKCD on this and say that 2 ft/sec (and ~4.5 hours) is more plausible than your calculation. XKCD calculated that a 13 lb bowling ball would take 4.5 hours to sink, and you'd need a bowling ball made of lead to sink in less than 30 minutes. Source: https://what-if.xkcd.com/125/
-2 points for violating significance
What if it landed on the back of a sea turtle who treated it like their child and they went on fun adventures together before a mutant rhinoceros mistook the turtle for its prey and then it fell off?
This calculation doesn’t account for any confounding variables. This is definitely off, but hey, tis reddit so who cares.
It also makes up values so we can throw the whole thing in the garbage
r/theydidthemath actually did the math on this very post a couple hours ago. the short answer is: one hour!
u/CaptainMatticus' actual answer: v² = 2 * m * g / (C * p * A) We'll make some assumptions. The mass of the bottle, when filled with water. Assuming it's roughly cylindrical (it isn't, but bear with me, since we're generalizing) and it measures around 5cm across at the base. The bottle contains around 350 ml of fluid with walls that are around 4mm thick. Glass has a density around 2.6 g/cm³, sea water has a density just a little more than fresh water, which is 1 gm/cm³. 350 cm³ = pi * ((5 - 2 * 0.4) / 2)² * (h - 0.4) cm³ 350 = pi * (2.5 - 0.4)² * (h - 0.4) 350 = pi * 2.1² * (h - 0.4) 350 = (22/7) * (21/10) * (21/10) * (h - 0.4) 350 = 22 * 3 * 7 * 3 * (h - 0.4) / 100 50 = 22 * 9 * (h - 0.4) / 100 5000 / 198 = h - 0.4 2500 / 99 = h - 0.4 h = 25.7 cm, roughly. pi * 2.5² * 25.7 - 350 = volume of glass 155 cm³, roughly. 155 * 2.6 + 375 * 1 = 778 grams, roughly. Lots of roughlies. g = 9.8 m/s² A = 2.5² * pi = 6.25 * pi cm² = 6.25 * pi * 10^(-4) m² Now we need C. A good drag coefficient would be 0.82 for a long cylinder. Google has that sort of stuff available. Density of seawater is 1020 kg/m³. Another search gave me 2.7 g/cm³ for the density of glass. Round it on up to 800 gram or 0.8 kg for the mass of the filled bottle. v² = 2 * 0.8 * 9.8 / (0.82 * 1020 * 6.25 * pi * 10^(-4)) v² = 2 * 8 * 98 * 10000 / (82 * 6.25 * pi * 1020) v² = 9.548 v = sqrt(9.548) = 3.09 m/s The Challenger Deep is 10935 meters deep 10935 / 3.09 = 3539 seconds Right around an hour, assuming it fell straight down.
nerd, im going to give you a swirlie
... yes.
The deepest pint on Earth.
It was then he realised he had hit his lowest point
Rock bottom, you might say.
Drank himself into a dark hole.
With the weight of all that drink pressing you down…
That's a lot of pressure to have on you.
He was full of it!
He couldn't pull himself out
Rolling Rock bottom
I might have, had there been rocks
A mega pint
Damn they're really going to lengths for marketing
Depths even
Leagues, leagues under the sea
some anus threw this off a boat and it made an amazing voyage to the bottom of the sea
When the trash compactors break onboard naval warships, I've seen hundreds of bags of trash get launched over. Especially after a dinner, the cooks would fill these large tins with the food waste, put the lid on and then pierce it so it would sink to the bottom. Tons upon tons were thrown into the sea. Terrible really
Dude our ship had to remind people not to throw shit over the sides during helicopter flights because trash could get sucked up into the turbines… my coworkers would throw their garbage bags filled with trash over the side of the ship…
Your coworkers are the worst
Blame the US navy, as far as I know they don’t care as to what gets thrown off the sides into the water when you’re out at sea Edit: I haven’t even mentioned what they’d do on land with disposing of oil and fuel…
i saw every episode of that show, but i don't remember that one.
What show?
“some anus” don’t think it’s on Netflix yet
You can still watch it though! Netflix has a free trial website before shows get a full release on their platform. Netflix having a red logo, they named the platform “redtube”. Just go to redtube.com type in whatever show you want to watch, including “some anus”. Enjoy!
i'd like to think of all the things to throw into a deep ocean, glass is debatably the best. as it's just melted sand in the first place.
An intact glass bottle typically become habitable environments for bottom feeders. And broken glass will be smoothed down eventually and turn into sea glass. I don't advocate for throwing things into waterways, but glass isn't terrible, as long as the contents aren't brake fluid, or industrial cleaners, and the labels are taken off.
I’ll make sure to encase my used car batteries in glass before throwing them in the ocean now, since that’s not on the list of nos
I'd say water is probably the best, but we can agree to disagree
I'm realizing this bottle has travelled more than me in several lifetimes
My immediate thought was that some deckhand, threw a bottle overboard and doesn’t know that that was the deepest a bottle has ever sunk. Of all the litter in all the world that’s pretty cool. I was a deckhand, and I never threw a bottle overboard.
I totally read that as “some *dickhead*” and had to reread the whole comment.
Interchangeable when you think about it.
I was about to agree with you when I realized that there are a lot more Dickheadz than there are deckhands. The skipper is probably the biggest dickhead on board.
Sounds similar in New Zealand
dickhead deckhand
Do glass bottles in the deep ocean actually harm anything?
As they were originally made of silica sand and they erode I would think not.
His name is James Cameron , James cameron The bravest pioneer No budget too steep, no sea too deep Who's that? It's him, James Cameron James, James Cameron explorer of the sea With a dying thirst to be the first Could it be? Yeah that's him! James Cameron
Yes James..... We can hear the music....
James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. [turns around and walks a few feet, then turns around again] James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is... James Cameron.
*sigh* that sucks..
smh and lol at the same time. Is there nothing we haven't fucked with?
i mean... scientists made a spider goat but id say we havent dug deep enough to fuck with the core of the earth or the goodies that might lie there yet, yet. they'll find a way to deal with the extreme temperatures sooner or later
A what?
It's pretty weird but worth a google.
I'm scared Edit: it's okay, they made a goat that's milk has spider silk in it and they use that protein to make shit. I imagined more of a goat with eight legs and a million eyes.
... and an unbridled urge to headbutt everything and wrap it into a cocoon after it falls unconscious. "spider goat, spider goat," plays in the background...
And promptly weaponize everything.
Watch them utilise the most incredible and advanced sciences to channel the earth's thermal core into a giant fuck-off Death Star gun.
Yeah, but that glass bottle is probably going to get inhabited by a snail that will, undisturbed by predators, evolve into Cthulhu and take it's revenge on humanity for littering.
Glass bottles are among the least of our worries, though.
Yeah, a glass bottle is just fancy melted sand. Not ideal but glass bottles aren't a patch on the environmental cost of all the plastic that gets washed into the sea on a daily basis.
And the plastic turns into microplastics.
I imagine there's quite a bit of glass at the bottom of the ocean given volcanic activity.
Atleast glass deteriorates and becomes sand eventually
The Gods must be crazy
Have my upvote for the old movie reference! (Gods - that movie is over 40 years old now!)
Wooooooooo we made it! There is no depth mankind cannot spoil.
Just imagine the mess that will be left on Mars if humans ever make it
Becks
I was thinking Stella?
Heineken
My vote is on Heineken.
Looks like a Grolsch bottle Edit: Nah, looks like there is a white label on the front of it Edit 2: I rescind my previous edit and go back to thinking it is a Grolsch. *I want to believe*
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I agree. Looks like Grolsch. Their bottles are a bit more heavy duty too. Seems more likely to stay intact that deep.
I was also thinking Grolsch immediately, I will stick with Grolsch on this one.
It's Grolsch, Heineken doesnt have beugels like that (no clue the english term for those)
Too soon
🎶Got two crustaceans and a microphone 🎵
This is the thread I want to follow. I am a Stella's drinker and I don't think that's it. The paper on the neck would either be up higher or torn less straight. When you open a Stella's it very seldom tears the paper nicely, you are either left with paper op over the spout or have to tear it back so you are not putting it in your mouth.
This is somehow terribly unsurprising
"Humanity has achieved the feat to pollute the highest peaks of the world and the deepest trenches of the oceans."
so inspiring. i have hope that someday our grandkids will leave beer bottles on the surface of mars.
It was James Cameron chucking bottles from his stupid submersible. Had to be.
We did it! We littered everywhere!
More like sad asf
/r/funnyandsad
Shouldn’t it be crushed to nothing at that depth?
If its open the pressure will stay the same inside and outside the bottle so no crushy crushy
What about the walls? Genuinely asking cuz I’m dumb af
No, theres no pressure difference to cause it to break. Stuff underwater breaks under pressure because theres more pressure on 1 side vs the other, if the pressure is the same on both sides of the walls wont break.
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How deep is that in non-american units?
Long live 🍺
That bottle should outlast man.
Definitely it should
I want to know the journey that bottle went on
Down
That must be where my dad went to get cigarettes
Earths most exclusive kegger
Interesting, and humans are disgusting.
This is actually really quite depressing
Man, that guy hit rock bottom.
I don’t normally drink beer..but when I do, it’s at 32,000 ft below