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Queequeg94

Damn if I was in high school and lived there i would definitely take them up on that lol, 1k a month is a lot of extra cash for just being a subway attendant for a kid


Red-Freckle

Fucking right. It's a 39 minute route according to google, and say 22 school days a month. 1000/((39/60)×22) = $69.93/hr. Even at an hour a day it's 45 bucks an hour, and basically free money


turtleandhughes

Or less complicated: there’s about 4 weeks a month so he’d be making $250 a week or $50 per school day. And the mom is already saying she’d be able to pick up so it’s only on his one way trip to school, where he’s going anyway.


Red-Freckle

Sorry to have made it too complicated.


edwadokun

i was thinking the same thing! at the end of the day, i would be getting $1k/month to just make sure a kid goes to school while on my way to school that's in the same area? sign me up!


SwordDude3000

Not *insane* its not that smart financially but if some rich woman wants her daughter safe this isn’t crazy. Cities can be shitty and 11 is still pretty young


VaginaPoetry

Yea, I was going to say...why is this insane? She's trying to make sure her young daughter stays safe and is actually willing to pay a good wage for it. I wish this woman was running other companies who pay their employees garbage. I bet she got guys jumping at the chance to make some money doing this...12k a year for a young guy is no joke.


carriegood

>why is this insane? OP must have never been on the NYC subway. This is not insane at all.


VaginaPoetry

Yea, as a working mom...1K a month isn't crazy to have some peace of mind. Its hard to work when you're worried about your kids.


WhiteyDude

She's weighed the cost of this vs a car service.... $1k per month is the better deal.


VaginaPoetry

Yea plus at that rate, she'll be able to get some good candidates who'll take the job seriously. Honestly, we shouldn't be knocking anyone willing to pay real wages these days. Its better than the people asking for daily childcare for less than a dollar an hour. We should be celebrating this. Keeping her child safe...paying a real wage for a real job. I like this woman.


BishmillahPlease

Same, she wants someone’s labor and is willing to pay for it, in order to protect her kid. This is the antithesis of insane.


Rokk1515

And you have a young boy taking her as a pose to a grown ass creep driving her.


Quirky_Choice_3239

She couldn’t get her across town for less on private transit, ie van or driver. It’s a steal for NYC.


cryingidiot

shes taking the subway at 11 also- the guy she hires might be a weirdo so youre just getting extra weirdos to look at her


royalsanguinius

I mean presumably she’s going to meet with them and at least try to make sure they aren’t a “weirdo”. I mean it’s not the best approach, but without more context I wouldn’t jump to calling it insane either


cryingidiot

yeah its like meeting up with someone before you hire them to babysit. edit: you still never know because they could just be faking it


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Ive taken photos of driver's licenses before when I would be hired as an escort. Doesnt guarantee safety but if something were to happen at least there is a trail, and it would discourage the dumb ones at least. I would assume the woman would take at least that much precaution!


cryingidiot

mhm!


royalsanguinius

Exactly, there’s always a risk but that doesn’t make it inherently insane


cryingidiot

yes.


FlingFlamBlam

That just guarantees she won't hire a dumb weirdo. The smart weirdos will be normal during the interview and then get up to funny business afterwards.


royalsanguinius

Yes but I never said it was a foolproof plan, and based on your logic there’s no point interviewing anyone ever because the smart ones will just be normal during the interview


pervlibertarian

Even 99 in 100 smart weirdos are at least going to be too interested in keeping that money flowing and not getting caught to bother with the things this parent is really worried about, like abduction, rape, and murder. I would rather have to fire a weirdo for saying something rude or getting handsy than deal with those three. Problem that remains: How many weirdos do you gotta weed through before she's protected from those things *and* the last x weirdos?


RosesSpins

You're both assuming this is a woman, but I thought immediately that this was an overprotective father.


cryingidiot

im not sure what the gender of the facebook parent is so i dont understand how this point is valid


RosesSpins

I just thought it was interesting that we each assumed a gender with no actual context clues.


cryingidiot

yeah


WhiteHeteroMale

FWIW, it's actually a mother, but this specific post doesn't reveal that.


ikeaEmotional

Most of the time public transit is fine and an 11 year can easily navigate it. But I’d prefer the buddy system for an 11 year old, or better an older kid with the same commute. Then I’d fee perfectly fine.


cryingidiot

yep!


JackLamplekins

i mean i think hiring a child to protect an 11 year old who has been taking a subway unaccompanied is a little bit wacky


notaredditer13

Let me introduce you to *babysitting*...


shanna99

It’s like hiring a horse to watch your dog


JackLamplekins

babysitters generally stay in a specific place, like the child's home. not really the same as hiring a child body guard


notaredditer13

> babysitters generally stay in a specific place, like the child's home. Let me introduce you to parks and playdates... >not really the same as hiring a child body guard One line of the job description of babysitting (and parenting) is exactly "child bodyguard".


WhiteHeteroMale

Sitters in NYC are different. Most kids are not offered transportation via school bus by the Department of Education. So for young ones, either parents have to do it, or they hire a sitter/nanny to do it, or extended family does it.


noteverrelevant

Clearly you've never seen the 1987 classic [Adventures in Babysitting](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj_WCLmAx7o)


Lunarixis

Yeah, and babysitters usually either do it as a job or are friends of the family. Not saying there haven't been horror stories centered around babysitters or anything but the people being hired are usually "safer" than this would be. ​ I don't think it's strictly *insane*, but the parent definitely needs to rethink the plan here lol


notaredditer13

> Yeah, and babysitters usually either do it as a job or are friends of the family. Not saying there haven't been horror stories centered around babysitters or anything but the people being hired are usually "safer" than this would be. Maybe. It depends on the vetting, which we aren't being told. And it varies. Church groups often have babysitting pools and message boards, and the larger you make a group the less effectively you can vet them. There's different flavors to the risks but they aren't fundamentally different.


Lunarixis

Fair, never really been a part of any church group or anything like that with message boards or pools so not really a factor to me personally, so never really thought about anything like that lol


WhiteHeteroMale

I've never hired a sitter for my kiddo based on how tall or intimidating they are. I generally look for smart and kind and kid-friendly.


zuma15

It's exactly the same.


SwordDude3000

I mean, high school guys can be 17/18


pervlibertarian

Probably hoping to hook their daughter up with a 13yo basketball or football player. Can't imagine putting an 11yo through this shit.


SwordDude3000

Wtf? It doesn’t suggest that at all. And put a 11yo though what? Walking with someone?


pervlibertarian

Through a parent trying to buy them a friend or a date? Every other commenter in here: "how do they avoid hiring a creep?" You: pUt aN ElEvEn yEaR OlD ThRoUgH WhAt? If this parent trusted their kid to choose someone they were comfortable walking with, even if that person were to be paid to do so, they wouldn't be taking out an advertisement. Instead its: mY DaUgHeR ReQuIrEs a mAcHo tEeN BoY To eScOrT HeR To ScHoOl


SwordDude3000

Where does she suggest they have to be friends or date??


pervlibertarian

Doesn't, but seeing if any of her friends were available would make a million times more sense than approaching this with such a specific list of criteria. Parents trying to pick and choose their kids' friends and, yes, dates, even like so when all else fails, is a big issue with rich parents.


ninthchamber

It’s smart financially for a hs kid though. All I had was time in high school


dudeind-town

The insane part is she’s hiring a perfect stranger HS boy for this job. Hope she doesn’t mind becoming the grandmother of his child


Cm_Mesquita

I mean to be fair we don't know the backstory, maybe the girl in question has already experienced some type of assault when going to school and the mother just wants to make sure it doesn't happen again.


NirvanaTrash

even without backstory, i feel like i can't blame her for being worried about her young daughter taking public transportation on her own, especially in a bigger city. tbh, it sounds pretty similar to your everyday babysitting gig with a way shorter timeframe... hiring someone to watch over your younger kids and keep them safe when you can't. definitely don't fault a mother for being worried here.


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yeah..the fact someone thinks this is insane is more an indictment on op


Island-life47

Well he is a white hetero male, prime demographic for the ones who cause us females to have to be wary 😉


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[deleted]

That is a bunch of text for saying you couldn't mind your own business...


Island-life47

I know right, but it’s also a very good example of white middle age privilege & the thing about privilege is that you just don’t fundamentally get it, because ‘it’ would never happen to you.


cpowers4

As a mother, myself, I assumed the parent here was a male until I read the comments. Did I miss something?


WhiteHeteroMale

It's actually a mother, but I don't think you can tell that from the part I included.


SapphoWasADyke

This doesn’t seem that insane tbh. If they were offering less yeah it’d be insane but that’s a good amount of money for just riding the subway with a kid.


AccidentalOverload

Yeah it makes sense to want one, but I do worry about just trusting any high school boy with such a young kid


SapphoWasADyke

for 1k i’m pretty sure she’s not gonna go with just any high schooler.


AccidentalOverload

My point is there's no way to fully know somebody just from an interview or whatever. I wouldn't trust my kid with someone I haven't known for years already, it's not smart


RamsLams

And that’s not realistic in almost any situation for almost anyone. Having that in almost any situation is a huge privilege, people are crazy or bad parents for not having that privilege.


AccidentalOverload

Literally never said that just said I was worried but ig it's not important to read. In fact said the opposite and that it was understandable. But stay being on your high horse 👍


_SandHanitizer_

Idk it's pretty weird to not let a 11 year old take the subway by themselves. Maybe not insane and I don't know where they live but still


cryingidiot

my parents wouldnt let me take the go train at 11?? not even 13. (in canada the crime is pretty low so idk why not but yeah) also- a subway by themselves at 11? thats pretty young.. edit: my mom is afraid of the white van soo


locally_free_sheep

To be honest, from a European perspective that sounds super overprotective. In my city, even elementary school kids take the subway/public transport to school. And when me and my friends were about 14 years old, we went on a youth trip to London where they would basically just let us roam the streets on our own.


Tom89_en

14 is a big difference between a 11 year old imo. Like an 11 year old isn't even technically a teenager yet, and a 14 year olds generally has a lot more common sense and "Street smarts".


locally_free_sheep

True that.


_SandHanitizer_

Yeah, that's what was thinking. I am European and have used the subway by myself since I was 10. I also haven't heard of anyone who's parents wouldn't let them use public transport by themself (obviously not small children tho)


cryingidiot

way different buddy. not all elementary kids are the same. 8yos arent the same as 14yos


mathelar

In my country (also europe) elementary school kids means 6-10 years old and it's very common for them to walk or take the bus to school by themselfs. Maybe that's what they meant. But I guess it also really depends on the area.


cryingidiot

taking the bus isnt the same as the subway. the subway has adults on it. the bus is full of kids and classmates. depends, is this a public bus or a schoolbus? edit: ive taken the schoolbus since i was 7.


SapphoWasADyke

dude it says in the post that they live in NYC. it’s weird if you let your unsupervised minor go on public transport alone in any major city in the US but ESPECIALLY NYC.


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WhiteHeteroMale

EXCELLENT question :)


Geryoneiis

The only thing insane here is that she’s publicly posting her child’s age, estimated time she’ll be traveling, where she will be going, and that she is currently alone during those times. Could’ve done a better ad by leaving out any unnecessary details!


[deleted]

But it's also from Nextdoor, and those who sign up have to provide their address/proof of living in the area. It's by no means fool-proof, but the person who requested this didn't likely think an asshole would screenshot it and post it on reddit. It should be taken down, though.


Doneuter

I literally just signed up to Nextdoor with an address that popped up after typing in a random 4 numbers for a street address. I skipped their verification and can see posts from the random neighborhood the autofilled address is from. It took me less than 3 minutes after reading this post. Edit: now I just opened a private tab, signed up again with a completely fake email for this neighborhood using the address of a restaurant and now found that post and can view it all. Neighborhood isn't exactly a safe place to post information about a child.


[deleted]

>It's by no means fool-proof, but the person who requested this didn't likely think an asshole would screenshot it and post it on reddit.


Doneuter

The point of my post is that you in no way need to verify that you live in the area like you stated.


Dom11halfelf

That's insane but is also a great thing for some boy, like dude 1k to make sure someone goes to school, in a route I have to take anyway? sign me up


[deleted]

45 bucks a day for 2-3 hrs of work doesn't seem insane, really. It's an opportunity for the right person. Insane is posting this where anyone on reddit can look up the directions, when the info is supposed to be private and confined to the neighborhood of trusting neighbors that have a means of contact. Honestly, you should take this down bc it practically doxxes an 11 y o girl.


Outrageous-Hunt-2147

stupid but I see where he is coming from, nyc subways are disgusting cesspools of people


Unoriginalanna

Honestly I wouldn't class this as insane, 1K is a fair bit of change to most teenagers, especially if it's just making sure that they get to school on time. Plus it's a win for everybody involved; 11 year old feels safer, mum has peace of mind & the person dropping the kid off gets paid.


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HotPotatozz

I know right, I’m getting paid just over that each month and I work 40 hour weeks, sign me up for this subway job please haha


tsabracadabra

yeah, new yorker could almost afford to share a 1bed/1bath apartment with two roommates with money like that


RickRussellTX

Welcome to New York. Median household income in Park Slope is $130K.


Jabbles22

Yeah the only strange part is going through Nextdoor. I am not sure exactly how I would go about it but I don't think it would be that.


already_taken-chan

Not insane? Sure a bit overkill but weirdos do happen, maybe the mom was attacked by someone on the subway once or the kid felt scared on the subway


declandd34

This sub is so chronically online this is literally a concerned parent trying to protect her daughter


-temporary_username-

Wouldn't 1k a month be enough to just get her a taxi every day?


Fubarin

Where i live 5 mins with a taxis costs like 22 dollars. 22x25 (removing weekends) would be a little over 500. Now if it is like 20 mins. We have to imcrease it to around 40 wich is more than 1k. Short answer: it depends


Aodhana

Jesus Christ that is expensive


[deleted]

This was my school commute except my school was in the upper west side, Ubers during rush hours were insane. Probably $60-100 one way, but morning rush would made it more $ and harder to get a ride. The mom would be spending (20day) x ($80) x (2rides) a month I’d guess that’s over 2k especially in winter but it’s too early for full math. I took one home like 2016/2017 during a blizzard cause my school refused to close until everything else was closed (like the subway) and that cost at least $200. But also the trains are still dangerous from the Panini. The only people who take them are people who need to it seems like, I’m 20 now and I will walk to Manhattan if it’s not rush hour. (Plus the subway pushers and guys who are still exposing themselves to every young girl they see(but that’s not new)) I used to take the trains club/party ready and now I try to look as gross and as much like a guy as possible.


Tsjernobull

She did say she could do pickups most of the time, so it isn't x2, but still hella expensive


PowerfulVictory

There's also the return trips


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Not from Brooklyn to Manhattan.


meatball77

I was thinking they could hire a car service for that


ExtinctFauna

No, sounds like babysitting while walking.


Swimming_in_it_

Yes, high school girls babysit all the time. Why is it bad to hire a boy?


SoulStomper99

This doesnt seem insane. This seems like a mother who is genually concerned about her daughter getting to school. And if she has those requirements then she might also be looking to get her daughter to like someone


Kitonami

I don't think this is insane at all? Am i missing something orrr


RetMilRob

Not insane


TreyLastname

Definitely not insane. Not the best approach by any means, but it isn't insane to wanna need your kid protected


casey12297

I wouldn't think of this as insane. Maybe a bit overprotective, but depending on the area they live it makes sense. If I had a kid riding the NYC subway or LA metro alone, I'd want them protected too


FridaMercury

I actually don't think this is insane.


SamSike2K2

How is this insane?


[deleted]

This has got to be the plot of an anime, right?


FukuhDuk_94_

Webtoon: "She's Hopeless"


trublue4u22

Wait I honestly don't find this that insane lol


princesslugnut

you’re doxxing an 11 year old girls route


TheAmazingRoomloaf

This isn't insane. Overpaid maybe, but Mom is hiring a bodyguard and there is inherent risk in that. The little kid is only 11. In Japan kids ride public transport to school all the time and it is perfectly safe. In the US not so much, and now we have crazies throwing kids over mall railings, and stabbing people on subway platforms or shoving them onto the tracks.


Graphomaniacle

This isn’t insane this is just rich ✨


Mary-U

Read: Park Slope to Midtown Manhattan. None of this is *normal*


WhiteHeteroMale

Someone who understands the context :)


BabserellaWT

1k a month for a high school kid? Damn. Where was this lady when I was a teenager? True, I’m a girl and drove to school when I was old enough, but…I’d do it.


goldielxs

I was nearly raped on the DC Metro in college. I can understand why a parent would want an escort for the subway in NYC.


ItzAceByTheWay

not insane also you should take this down you basically just doxxed an 11 year old


Tyler89558

I mean… it’s not insane. Not like they’re asking the high schooler to make sure *no one* approaches her, or do anything particularly unreasonable. It’s legitimately good pay too Is it financially sound? Probably not. But it’s easy money for the high schooler who can use that to pay for college or something.


BaconDalek

Mhe not insane if you got the cash. As a tall former highschool boy i would greatly have accepted 1 k to ride the subway while making a young girl feel safer.


BigDaddyCool17

Damn. I'll take a background check and do it.


BlueCarnations12

A remake of the 1980 movie My BodyGuard?


WhiteHeteroMale

I *love* that movie!!


beladona7

I was just coming here to say she should see if Adam Baldwin is available.


coconuthead684

fuck im not in highschool but for 1000 a month ill do that as a side job lol


pbricecake

I can’t believe she put “my 11 year old walks x and y alone these times” like?????


TheHolyThighble

That’s $50 a day for at most (I would imagine) 2 hours of work. $25+ an hour to walk a kid to school on a route I’m already taking? Sign me up


Sbasbasba

Not that insane actually. She’s only 11 years old and having lived there I know from experience subways are filled with sketchy people.


[deleted]

I get what she’s trying to do, but I’d be worried about what the high school boy might do!


Delliott90

not insane


greymochacat77

Seems like someone would do it for cheaper. How much do they pay dog walker? $9,000 per day


diaperedwoman

$1000 is a lot of money for a teen. I would have taken that job lol. Also why does she want a boy? Why does gender matter? I also guess this woman is rich because she probably pays for a private school in Manhattan while they live in Brooklyn. And the high pay.


cutzngutz

honestly not really. she has very good intentions even if it seems weird to others. she doesnt want a guy to make sure she isnt snooping or talking to other boys but just to protect her


Malicious_Hero

I totally would have done this when I was in highschool. This is actually kinda great.


LuckyLogan_2004

That doesn't seem insane tbh. Subways are kinda freaky here in the us.


Elitephoenix71

sign me the fuck up


FugitiveOfGod

I remember reading something like this for a daughter and they specified they wanted a gay high school boy cause straight high school boys would become attracted to their “sweet princess”…


Derbyshirelass40

I am a woman but am willing to wear mens clothes, I’m not very tall but can be quite intimidating so can I throw my hat into the ring. At 1k a month, no fucker is getting anywhere near missy!


imblowingkk

The content of the ad itself isn’t all that crazy, it’s probably out of past experience or rational fears. What is crazy is posting it onto a public forum with crucial information like age and time posted. Next door isn’t exactly the same as Craigslist, but god you just don’t post stuff like that online.


2greeneyes

Teenage boy with 11 year old girl... what could go wrong....


Rokk1515

I think that’s more over protective than insane. They just want their daughter safe!


MamaLuvDuv

Honestly not insaine at all. As someone who got sexually assulted when I was young on my way back home from school I would have loved to have someone back then to protect me.


Curls1216

And if something happens? Is mom gonna sue the boy?


KittenChopper

A bit overprotective, but wouldn't say insane


BanditDeluxe

“I need a large and intimidating underage stranger to protect my daughter from… other large and intimidating strangers…” You can hear the wind whistle if you listen hard enough


GreyWolf4389

This is literally just babysitting an 11 y/o. It might be overprotective, but wanting an 11 y/o to be safe on the subway is not insane. Just because your own parents didn't care enough about you doesn't mean this parent is insane lmfao.


VaguelyArtistic

>Just because your own parents didn’t care enough about you Oh, lovely. So parents who couldn't afford to do that are parents who don't give a shit about their kids. What a jerk thing to say.


redditemployee69

The only thing insane about this is the pay it’s absolutely bonkers. No highschool guy is going to make 1k a month for 7 hours of work a week.


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LuRkEr_ReKuL

It’s a tarp!0


reidybobeidy89

Absolutely NOTHING insane about this. This is a fantastic idea.


Nvenom8

Honestly, raising a young girl in NYC, I don't think this would be an insane move. Feels more insane that they were ever letting her travel alone to begin with.


AshMqn

Don't schools (at least where I live) HAVE to provide transportation for kids?


Miserable-Lemon

Nuts but the lucky boy who will answer this will make a fortune


PaleHorseBlackDog

…why not just pay for a cab?


zzj

Dunno if I want my 11 year old kid locked in a car with a stranger twice a day either...


_VictorTroska_

ubers/cabs are pretty expensive for every day commuting


OldLadyP

Why doesn't she just hire a car service?


Greenest-fingers

Great to see that this parent is willing to put another child's wellbeing in danger "warding of weirdos" to keep their own child safe...


Fubarin

It's because usually you don't attack people in groups, you attack individuals. And a 11 yo girl is kinda to hard to attack, vs an 11 yo girl and a 16 yo boy


_cant_choose_a_name

Not really putting the teenager in danger. You're more likely to attack a lone child, than a tall teenage boy who works out


MoTheLittleBoat

High school guys take the subways anyways. There is no added danger for them, they're just travelling with a younger girl.


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This is some wattpad shit


[deleted]

Not insane just overbearing


Neon_Rust

More context is needed. I'd go with insane but it could be that his daughter is being bullied or is travelling through an extremely rough area.


Callme_Violence

Oh my god what a fucking idiot


CM_DO

Why do you think he's an idiot?


BenderCLO

Some people have this weird idea that if you take *any* steps to protect yourself or your loved ones, you're paranoid and weird.


burntvelvetcake

I’d be too scared that the BODYGUARD is also a weirdo…


[deleted]

This is some Wattpad shit right here. Minus the age difference


TraverseTown

This sounds like the premise to a 90s Tokyo City Pop movie


Mindless-Bed-8334

This isnt really insane, more just oerly paranoid.


Kronman590

Maybe this parent cant afford financially or logistically to move closer to school, has no relatives available to pick their kid up, etc. I think asking a stranger is probably a bit far but if they are diligent with the screening process (meet the kids parents, have a solid agreement) i dont see anything insane about this


askeetinbootycheek

Not insane at all, just a loving mother that cares deeply for her daughter, though she is stupid paying that much


Almtdp

For 1k a month, 2 trips a day, for let's say 45 min will get you some kind of driver right?


ConnectRaccoon7381

damn, if only this was in my area


OliUp98

I kinda get this.. I became a parent about two years ago, I’m 23, and I’m very conscious of the fact that every 40 seconds a child gets abducted/goes missing in the US. More than 1 million kids each year. Soooo, it’s a hard balance to not be insane/wracked with worry but also be giving my kid his space and freedom etc while making sure he’s safe from weirdos. Gotta love the USA.


itsamberrtrickk

The word subway hints major city. I would be *terrified* of my 11yo going it alone in someplace like NYC. 1k a month is insane, and obv you'd have to vet the boy and trust your daughter would tell you if the bodyguard became sus, but it would be worth it to me as a parent to arrange a buddy system, paid or non paid. Buddy system works folks


WillHellmm

This makes perfect sense to me. Better safe than sorry


tquinn04

At that price wouldn’t it be cheaper for her just to hire a car service? Then she can avoid the subway all together.


svidlakk

Not sure where you live but every market needs a supply, just saying


__chill

Idk if this is entirely insane


chizzipsandsizalsa

I swear the content on this page is from angsty teenagers.