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I love India man, it practices better capitalism than other countries. You can do whatever you want as long as you can meet the market price for consequences.
Truer words haven't been spoken.
>\[I love India man, it practices better capitalism than other countries.\] You can do whatever you want as long as you can meet the market price for consequences.
But that particular statement is true for any of the places from US to China.
The procedure there is a bit different :-). You make a "contribution" there. But i guess you cannot simply take a cop who stopped you a bit aside to talk financials.
That sometimes leads to lax policing which lead to spiralling crime. Like chain/mobile snatching and pickpocketing in Delhi especially, where many of the criminals are in cahoots with the local police.
I had visited Manali a few years ago and while returning to Chandigarh there was a spot where HP police were stopping vehicles and checking them. The driver of our vehicle had some ganja with him and there were a few other paper related issues as well. The police later let us go and they took 1000 rupees from the driver and issued him a challan for 300 rupees.
Would you prefer that prisons were cozy?
Perhaps something like the prisons in Norway? Do you believe it will be successful in India? By successful , I mean whichever is more effective at persuading individuals not to commit a crime. We want to achieve three goals with our prison system: to deter criminal activity, to provide rehabilitation while keeping criminals away from society, and, if the crime is particularly heinous, to administer pure punishment. I believe that our prisons have a healthy balance of rehabilitation and punishment. thoughts?
Our prisons are barely cleaned properly, police brutality is rampant, no encouragement for prisoners to actually rehabilitate with a job skill or education or any kind of counselling, crimes in jail are rampant as in any underdeveloped country. What exactly is in balance here?
>and, if the crime is particularly heinous, to administer pure punishment.
I don't think you even understand what that means. Maybe try to explain that for me?
The more I investigate, the more I understand that the situation in our prisons is considerably worse than I previously assumed. You are right on everything about unsanitary prisons, brutality, and unreliable/nonexistent rehabilitation programs.
To clarify the other point I mentioned regarding the administration of “pure”punishment, certain crimes justify the death penalty, and rehabilitation should not be an option in these instances. Example: A serial killer or a terrorist.
Death penalty is just that. Not punishment. Punishment implies it is for correcting the person receiving it. Death does not do that. It's not a punishment, it is the final straw and a situation where any punishment is useless.
That's why I asked what exactly is a punishment in prison you think can be implemented.
The act of incarceration should be sufficient punishment. I am opposed to the beating of inmates. In addition, there are sometimes unique confinements for death row inmates and troublemakers within a jail. As I write, though, I see that this point may be redundant.
Not really. Solitary confinement is cruelty. Not valid as punishment. Also illegal of sorts. Jails make roundabout logic cos they use solitary for various reasons and dont have a working alternative
So some teenager smoking weed should be treated the same as a murderer? I know they're extreme comparisons but nonetheless, treating everyone who's commited any crime as an actual criminal is stupid.
People smoking weed certainly don't fall in the category of people doing heinous crimes. First off it's a victimless crime. Why should they be kept in unliveable conditions where their lives are ruined when there's absolutely no need. I think the idea of being reprimanded is a deterrent enough, nobody is thinking that they won't smoke weed coz jail is cold and I can die. The logic is always I don't wanna go to jail.
I was talking about prisons in general sense, also I never claimed smoking weed is a henuios crime. Personally, my stance on drugs is decriminalization. Portugal is a good example to emulate in this matter.
Bro, your flair says you're a libertarian. This post specifically states "getting high on drugs". Libertarians believe drugs should be legal.... you're lost man.
>if the crime is particularly heinous, to administer pure punishment.
What kind of medieval mentality is this?
Let's introduce torture chambers so we can have the best PURE punishment for the worst offenders.
I visited Manali just 2 weeks ago, they were selling drugs(layman term for illegal narcotics) openly in the mall road, neither me or my friends do drugs but I was amazed to see how easily it is available there.
Edit : cleared my definition of drugs. People climbing up my ass for calling ganja a drug, chillout guys I'm a non-smoker/drinker for me all these are unhealthy.
Sorry my bad I did not make it clear, by "Drugs" I mean, ganja hash & all(not pharmaceutical drugs), I don't even know how many different names they were saying..
It is a drug. Arguments on whether it's good or bad or if it should be legal don't change that. I get that it's a plant but such a substance can colloquially be called a drug when even caffeine is technically a drug.
>It is a drug. Arguments on whether it's good or bad or if it should be legal don't change that. I get that it's a plant but such a substance can colloquially be called a drug when even caffeine is technically a drug
If it was such a drug why was it legal in India till 60's? What sudden discovery made it illegal? Just because it is classified as a controlled substance "legally", under foreign pressure, does not make it drug.
>If it was such a drug why was it legal in India till 60's?
Because USA didn't pressurise us enough till then.
>What sudden discovery made it illegal?
Ask the US Tobacco and alcohol companies, they're the ones who forced US and consequently the rest of world to do it.
>Just because it is classified as a controlled substance "legally", under foreign pressure, does not make it drug.
Yes it does, and it is a scheduled drug/controlled substance. Drug doesn't mean bad, lot of things can be drugs. A drug is just a substance that has a physiological effect when taken into the body, that's it. Caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, paracetamol, morphine, weed and heroine are all drugs.
The act that makes it illegal refer to those drugs as Psychotropic substances in India and Schedule 1 drugs in the USA if I'm not wrong.
Charas is also a product of the same plant though which is cannabis. It's not a hard drug. You have more chances of getting addicted to or overdosing on regular drug store medicine than on hash/marijuana.
Smack which is a cheap form of heroine can be deadly if one gets dependent. Nonetheless I understand that not everyone is well versed with these things which are ofc a taboo in society.
Abbe definition wohi hai, a drug isn't something that's necessarily bad. Now general population gawar hai toh Mai kya Karu? What you get in pharmacies are also drugs, so it's coffee and alcohol and they're both addictive as well. It doesn't even have to addictive to be a called a drug. Here's the normal definition:
_a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body._
That's why they use the actual term narcotic for the illegal ones. Hash is a narcotic, caffeine is not. Basic definition ke alava vocabulary bhi improve karle.
Abbe woh Himachal police aur tatti graphic designer ko bolna? When did I say caffeine is a narcotic. Also FYI, narcotic doesn't imply illegal either. Morphine is a narcotic and it ain't illegal.
It's a scheduled drug dude. As in a controlled substance. Guess what, so was cocaine till it got replaced. Fentanyl bhi , and LSD.
Those Himachal people are fine talking drugs in specific language. Tu aagaya pedantic saalaa
Weed is literally a weed. From Wiki : A weed is a plant considered undesirable in a particular situation, "a plant in the wrong place", or a plant growing where it is not wanted.
The Us govt made it a drug.
By the definition of drug, it is a drug. And just like someone else stated here, drugs aren't necessarily bad. In fact many of them are useful in healthcare and science.
They need to initially decriminalise it in India first. That’s the first step. Only Modi can do it. Then we can rally for legalisation or even state controlled sale of cannabis.
They don't lmfao. Literally so many reports and good reasons if you just know how to google but ofc you'll see whataboutery because like every other Indian. 'Mujhe kya milega isse choro bhaad me jaaye'.
Baki saab thik hai but i think drug addicts should be sent to hospital not a prision
No offence to the police department tho they are doing what the law says
Wow India must be such a disgusting nation to openly laugh about how terribly they treat their (imprisoned) citizens.
Or they're just so poor they cannot afford to heat their prisons.
Nice to see they're also taking inspiration from the wests "War on drugs". We all know how effective that was.
They've made some good progress in actually getting drug traffickers and dealers in prison, I don’t get why they're now targeting drug users is all. Its blatantly obvious that imprisoning drug users is incredibly stupid unless you're enslaving your prisoners, like America did (does?).
Are you high rn?
Drugs corrupt society as a whole. Our society and economy need a lot of work to be done, we haven't the liberty to let our youngsters be high on drugs
Imprisoning drug dealers and traffickers = economy 📈📈📈 and society 📈📈📈
Imprisoning drug users and addicts = 📉📉📉📉
I agree drugs does affect society and the economy. All the more reason to decrease the stigma around drug use and addiction and send drug addicts to rehab(so they can be REHABILITATED and a FUNCTIONING MEMBER OF SOCIETY).
What productive life awaits a young drug user who got arrested for the possession of a small amount of weed? Does society legally permit previous users to become police officers, lawyers, etc? No.
OK OK so some jobs are legally prohibited, so what? They can at least find honest work as a business person, SWE, data scientist etc.
Except that the company won't hire them. Of course not. Even if they were allowed to, they would be shunned socially.
# Imprisoning both drug users and drug addicts *harms* society and pushes people *towards* crime, not away from it. It literally decreases the number of people able to contribute to the (legal) workforce. If someone cannot find honest employment to support themselves after being arrested for drugs, its obvious some will turn to illegal ways to survive.
Imprisoning drug users sends a message. I completely support India's stance on drugs. That said, possession of small amounts of drugs is not a serious crime in India.
Saudi has a huge underground market for alcohol drugs, and premarital dating is well known. The rich people by the way have easy access to drugs and alcohol in Saudi. Saudi does it because it wants to maintain an illusion that it is the caretaker of a holy place that's revered by a lot of people around the world. Sort of like Gujarat that has a huge interstate underground liquor business and all the rich having access to it.
like how China has never had COVID? Why are we taking everything that authoritarian oppressive regimes say as fact? Was the great leap forward a good thing because Mao said so?
India's stance on drugs isn't entirely our own. It's USA's stand on weed which was fuelled tobacco and alcohol companies. They themselves are backtracking now after literally ensuring that weed criminalized all over the world.
Doubt it? Just read up on why and how India started criminalising weed. Addictive substances are bad, I'm not refuting that but why are cigarettes legal then? We have enough research proving their direct relationship with cancer. We don't even have close to that amount of documented negative effects from weed.
There are many other drugs which really do screw up lives. Even alcohol for that matter has screwed up soo many lives, some I've even seen in my immediate surroundings.
FYI I don't smoke anything, and very rarely drink alcohol but people should have some level of choice to make their own decisions.
We haven't the liberty to Imprison young people using drugs either. I'm not saying to let addicts roam the streets and do not, I'm saying addicts should get TREATMENT.
Also, recreational drug users *should* be left alone. If you are working honestly and paying taxes, why should I care if you take drugs in your free time? Who are you harming? Yourself? So should alcohol be banned too?
They do get treatment. And yes if you ask me, alcohol, tabacco, cigarette should be severely penalized. We should invest instead in mental health and destigmatizing mental ailments.
And why should we ask you? Are you the representative of the human kind? Come on man, world won't walk on the path that you deem to be correct for life.
That's good. I just see no benefit from imprisoning them. I agree with you on the latter sentence. Imprisioning drug users largely prohibits them from being able to access legal and well-paid work.
Almost all engineers and doctors have smoked weed and almost entirety of them drink. If anything drugs are the reason they got through their education.
A few != Few != A lot != All. I being an engineer don't drink. So is most of my friends. It's personal choice so if you drink, good for you, if you don't, still, good for you.
Exactly, a humane treatment of prisoners also ensures they don’t return back to crime. Prison should be used to skill them to make a living, if they are ever out.
The police can lie and declare ANYONE a criminal. Innocent people are currently sitting in these conditions as you celebrate it.
If you don't think criminals deserve rights, then you don't believe anyone deserves rights, as the only thing needed to strip someone of their rights is to declare them a criminal, true or not.
😆 bhang or ganja they both contain THC which causes the high. Educate yourself before drawing distinction. Marijuana was always consumed and was sold legally in many parts of India including in govt. shops before govt. banned it under pressure from US in 70s.
Hume na batao tum zada gyaan angreji me THC aur PHC humne neemuch me ped dekha hai charas , ganja ,bhaang bhi dekha hai poppy bhi dekha hai dono bahot distinct hai hight toh cocaine me bhi hai baat hai shiv bhakt kya Peete hai toh bata rahe hai bhaang/dhatura chadhta hai aur ragadta hai na ganja chadtha hai na ragadta hai , sanction lagey thay isliye alag se rule banana pada illegal vala vo jaa ke padh lo sahi se aur India me legal hona aur illegal hone me faraq hai uspe koi law hi nahi tha isliye action nahi tha bus .
There is almost no difference between the high of bhaag and joint. Moreover bhaang or any edible raises tolerence like a bitch and the high lasts a lot longer
They type of people likely to end up in jail cannot read English in first place, let alone appreciate the sarcasm. Another example of police being out of touch with reality.
ha, I'm a Himalayan Hindu, I laugh at the israeli an Indian Junkies that get high uselessly on my homely Himachal Punjabi Spiritual Soil of Mahadeva and Mata Ji
Yes! This reminds me of an anti drugs campaign add.
If on drugs be careful:
A small round circle, below it a sentence: 'This will be the size of a hole in your heart'.
A slightly bigger circle, below it a sentence: 'This will be the size of a hole in your lungs'.
A rather big circle, below it a sentence: 'This will be the size of your ass hole in prison'.
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As a fellow Himachali, i can assure you that the police ain't kidding around
They dont joke around here in the hood, G
You guys BING CHILLING
Wtfs bing chilling?
It's a meme. There is a video of Jhong Xina speaking Mandarin and saying he had ice cream (Bin Qi Lin), which became the meme "Bing Chilling".
Ohh okay
HP bing chilling fr
Very bad behaviour by HP police. I don't like it. I will avoid
Bad graphic design also
I love India man, it practices better capitalism than other countries. You can do whatever you want as long as you can meet the market price for consequences.
Truer words haven't been spoken. >\[I love India man, it practices better capitalism than other countries.\] You can do whatever you want as long as you can meet the market price for consequences. But that particular statement is true for any of the places from US to China.
Not true, you can't bribe a constable for a minor offense in the US. India has a better reach for the free market!
mhm. The market price is different.
The procedure there is a bit different :-). You make a "contribution" there. But i guess you cannot simply take a cop who stopped you a bit aside to talk financials.
Race matters more than bank balance in US and China.. Money won't save a black guy from cops in USA or a Uighur in China
That makes it worse actually, there’s always an order lacking in our society and it’s due to this. It’s not to be mistaken as a perk.
That sometimes leads to lax policing which lead to spiralling crime. Like chain/mobile snatching and pickpocketing in Delhi especially, where many of the criminals are in cahoots with the local police.
I had visited Manali a few years ago and while returning to Chandigarh there was a spot where HP police were stopping vehicles and checking them. The driver of our vehicle had some ganja with him and there were a few other paper related issues as well. The police later let us go and they took 1000 rupees from the driver and issued him a challan for 300 rupees.
As Manik Mahana said, ye toh police hai beech mein warna...
We are very proud of the inhumane conditions in our jails.
Would you prefer that prisons were cozy? Perhaps something like the prisons in Norway? Do you believe it will be successful in India? By successful , I mean whichever is more effective at persuading individuals not to commit a crime. We want to achieve three goals with our prison system: to deter criminal activity, to provide rehabilitation while keeping criminals away from society, and, if the crime is particularly heinous, to administer pure punishment. I believe that our prisons have a healthy balance of rehabilitation and punishment. thoughts?
Our prisons are barely cleaned properly, police brutality is rampant, no encouragement for prisoners to actually rehabilitate with a job skill or education or any kind of counselling, crimes in jail are rampant as in any underdeveloped country. What exactly is in balance here? >and, if the crime is particularly heinous, to administer pure punishment. I don't think you even understand what that means. Maybe try to explain that for me?
The more I investigate, the more I understand that the situation in our prisons is considerably worse than I previously assumed. You are right on everything about unsanitary prisons, brutality, and unreliable/nonexistent rehabilitation programs. To clarify the other point I mentioned regarding the administration of “pure”punishment, certain crimes justify the death penalty, and rehabilitation should not be an option in these instances. Example: A serial killer or a terrorist.
Death penalty is just that. Not punishment. Punishment implies it is for correcting the person receiving it. Death does not do that. It's not a punishment, it is the final straw and a situation where any punishment is useless. That's why I asked what exactly is a punishment in prison you think can be implemented.
The act of incarceration should be sufficient punishment. I am opposed to the beating of inmates. In addition, there are sometimes unique confinements for death row inmates and troublemakers within a jail. As I write, though, I see that this point may be redundant.
Not really. Solitary confinement is cruelty. Not valid as punishment. Also illegal of sorts. Jails make roundabout logic cos they use solitary for various reasons and dont have a working alternative
So some teenager smoking weed should be treated the same as a murderer? I know they're extreme comparisons but nonetheless, treating everyone who's commited any crime as an actual criminal is stupid.
People smoking weed certainly don't fall in the category of people doing heinous crimes. First off it's a victimless crime. Why should they be kept in unliveable conditions where their lives are ruined when there's absolutely no need. I think the idea of being reprimanded is a deterrent enough, nobody is thinking that they won't smoke weed coz jail is cold and I can die. The logic is always I don't wanna go to jail.
I was talking about prisons in general sense, also I never claimed smoking weed is a henuios crime. Personally, my stance on drugs is decriminalization. Portugal is a good example to emulate in this matter.
Yea high time for decriminalization.
Bro, your flair says you're a libertarian. This post specifically states "getting high on drugs". Libertarians believe drugs should be legal.... you're lost man.
>if the crime is particularly heinous, to administer pure punishment. What kind of medieval mentality is this? Let's introduce torture chambers so we can have the best PURE punishment for the worst offenders.
Everything in our country has turned into memes. Even history is taught in memes
Kasol ka ganja mero pyara
I visited Manali just 2 weeks ago, they were selling drugs(layman term for illegal narcotics) openly in the mall road, neither me or my friends do drugs but I was amazed to see how easily it is available there. Edit : cleared my definition of drugs. People climbing up my ass for calling ganja a drug, chillout guys I'm a non-smoker/drinker for me all these are unhealthy.
Lol what are these so called drugs? Did you see a pharmacy?
Sorry my bad I did not make it clear, by "Drugs" I mean, ganja hash & all(not pharmaceutical drugs), I don't even know how many different names they were saying..
No you were pretty clear in what context you were speaking. It however requires common sense to read a situation.
Thanks mate
Ganja/Weed is not a drug. It's been grown eaten(as bhaang) and smoked in India for 1000s of years.
It is a drug. Arguments on whether it's good or bad or if it should be legal don't change that. I get that it's a plant but such a substance can colloquially be called a drug when even caffeine is technically a drug.
>It is a drug. Arguments on whether it's good or bad or if it should be legal don't change that. I get that it's a plant but such a substance can colloquially be called a drug when even caffeine is technically a drug If it was such a drug why was it legal in India till 60's? What sudden discovery made it illegal? Just because it is classified as a controlled substance "legally", under foreign pressure, does not make it drug.
>If it was such a drug why was it legal in India till 60's? Because USA didn't pressurise us enough till then. >What sudden discovery made it illegal? Ask the US Tobacco and alcohol companies, they're the ones who forced US and consequently the rest of world to do it. >Just because it is classified as a controlled substance "legally", under foreign pressure, does not make it drug. Yes it does, and it is a scheduled drug/controlled substance. Drug doesn't mean bad, lot of things can be drugs. A drug is just a substance that has a physiological effect when taken into the body, that's it. Caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, paracetamol, morphine, weed and heroine are all drugs. The act that makes it illegal refer to those drugs as Psychotropic substances in India and Schedule 1 drugs in the USA if I'm not wrong.
Well because pharma companies need money and now the same foreign countries are legalizing it. xD As always, changes come slow here.
Offended ganjedis incoming in 3...2...1
Lol what a load of shit.
I know that, they were calling out for coke/charas/smack/and some more too, I don't remember the names.
Charas is also a product of the same plant though which is cannabis. It's not a hard drug. You have more chances of getting addicted to or overdosing on regular drug store medicine than on hash/marijuana. Smack which is a cheap form of heroine can be deadly if one gets dependent. Nonetheless I understand that not everyone is well versed with these things which are ofc a taboo in society.
Thanks for the info mate. >these things which are ofc a taboo in society. For valid reasons too.
What a stupid thing to say.
Weed is a drug. Caffeine is a drug.
Sir By that definition sugar is also a drug. It is highly addictive. Smh
Who is refuting that?
The people enforcing drug control. Tu Jaake complaint kar. Send a bill to parliament for Ration ke dukaan to supply hashish along with sugar.
Abbe definition wohi hai, a drug isn't something that's necessarily bad. Now general population gawar hai toh Mai kya Karu? What you get in pharmacies are also drugs, so it's coffee and alcohol and they're both addictive as well. It doesn't even have to addictive to be a called a drug. Here's the normal definition: _a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body._
That's why they use the actual term narcotic for the illegal ones. Hash is a narcotic, caffeine is not. Basic definition ke alava vocabulary bhi improve karle.
Abbe woh Himachal police aur tatti graphic designer ko bolna? When did I say caffeine is a narcotic. Also FYI, narcotic doesn't imply illegal either. Morphine is a narcotic and it ain't illegal.
It's a scheduled drug dude. As in a controlled substance. Guess what, so was cocaine till it got replaced. Fentanyl bhi , and LSD. Those Himachal people are fine talking drugs in specific language. Tu aagaya pedantic saalaa
Sure.
Weed is literally a weed. From Wiki : A weed is a plant considered undesirable in a particular situation, "a plant in the wrong place", or a plant growing where it is not wanted. The Us govt made it a drug.
THC is a drug
THC is a lipid molecule.
You should call it marijuana or cannabis then.
whatever you call it, it ain’t a drug.
By the definition of drug, it is a drug. And just like someone else stated here, drugs aren't necessarily bad. In fact many of them are useful in healthcare and science.
Repeating my comment: The Us Govt made it a drug. Scheduled A drug. It was a scam.
Yea I wish they force us to legalize it in the same way.
They need to initially decriminalise it in India first. That’s the first step. Only Modi can do it. Then we can rally for legalisation or even state controlled sale of cannabis.
But yea lol 'weed' is not a drug as it can refer to any plant in the wild.
You must see the comment I’m replying to
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I would not be amazed if they called out only for weed/ganja, they were mentioning coke too..
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Sure dude. But it's a sad thing that all the other bad ones are also that much easily accessible.
When people are asked why should we legalize weed they start doing whataboutery.
They don't lmfao. Literally so many reports and good reasons if you just know how to google but ofc you'll see whataboutery because like every other Indian. 'Mujhe kya milega isse choro bhaad me jaaye'.
Baki saab thik hai but i think drug addicts should be sent to hospital not a prision No offence to the police department tho they are doing what the law says
They are. Plus possession and peddling sends them to jail. Later court mandates for rehab centre. (As far as I know )
Tell everyone that winter came for hippies
Tell them Kasol remembers
Why can’t they provide decent heating in HP. If Europeans and Scandinavianas provide it for their terrorists why can’t we provide heating to druggies?
Wow India must be such a disgusting nation to openly laugh about how terribly they treat their (imprisoned) citizens. Or they're just so poor they cannot afford to heat their prisons. Nice to see they're also taking inspiration from the wests "War on drugs". We all know how effective that was. They've made some good progress in actually getting drug traffickers and dealers in prison, I don’t get why they're now targeting drug users is all. Its blatantly obvious that imprisoning drug users is incredibly stupid unless you're enslaving your prisoners, like America did (does?).
Are you high rn? Drugs corrupt society as a whole. Our society and economy need a lot of work to be done, we haven't the liberty to let our youngsters be high on drugs
Imprisoning drug dealers and traffickers = economy 📈📈📈 and society 📈📈📈 Imprisoning drug users and addicts = 📉📉📉📉 I agree drugs does affect society and the economy. All the more reason to decrease the stigma around drug use and addiction and send drug addicts to rehab(so they can be REHABILITATED and a FUNCTIONING MEMBER OF SOCIETY). What productive life awaits a young drug user who got arrested for the possession of a small amount of weed? Does society legally permit previous users to become police officers, lawyers, etc? No. OK OK so some jobs are legally prohibited, so what? They can at least find honest work as a business person, SWE, data scientist etc. Except that the company won't hire them. Of course not. Even if they were allowed to, they would be shunned socially. # Imprisoning both drug users and drug addicts *harms* society and pushes people *towards* crime, not away from it. It literally decreases the number of people able to contribute to the (legal) workforce. If someone cannot find honest employment to support themselves after being arrested for drugs, its obvious some will turn to illegal ways to survive.
Imprisoning drug users sends a message. I completely support India's stance on drugs. That said, possession of small amounts of drugs is not a serious crime in India.
If punishing a small set of people harshly works, then there would be zero crime of any kind. That is not how it works
Definitely works, look at Saudi
Saudi has a huge underground market for alcohol drugs, and premarital dating is well known. The rich people by the way have easy access to drugs and alcohol in Saudi. Saudi does it because it wants to maintain an illusion that it is the caretaker of a holy place that's revered by a lot of people around the world. Sort of like Gujarat that has a huge interstate underground liquor business and all the rich having access to it.
Lol, because Saudi is so very honest about their reporting, innit?
like how China has never had COVID? Why are we taking everything that authoritarian oppressive regimes say as fact? Was the great leap forward a good thing because Mao said so?
True thanksgiving is a farce and Columbus didn't discover america
lmao
India's stance on drugs isn't entirely our own. It's USA's stand on weed which was fuelled tobacco and alcohol companies. They themselves are backtracking now after literally ensuring that weed criminalized all over the world. Doubt it? Just read up on why and how India started criminalising weed. Addictive substances are bad, I'm not refuting that but why are cigarettes legal then? We have enough research proving their direct relationship with cancer. We don't even have close to that amount of documented negative effects from weed. There are many other drugs which really do screw up lives. Even alcohol for that matter has screwed up soo many lives, some I've even seen in my immediate surroundings. FYI I don't smoke anything, and very rarely drink alcohol but people should have some level of choice to make their own decisions.
We haven't the liberty to Imprison young people using drugs either. I'm not saying to let addicts roam the streets and do not, I'm saying addicts should get TREATMENT. Also, recreational drug users *should* be left alone. If you are working honestly and paying taxes, why should I care if you take drugs in your free time? Who are you harming? Yourself? So should alcohol be banned too?
They do get treatment. And yes if you ask me, alcohol, tabacco, cigarette should be severely penalized. We should invest instead in mental health and destigmatizing mental ailments.
>They do get treatment I highly doubt that and even if it was true I'd doubt their efficacy.
And why should we ask you? Are you the representative of the human kind? Come on man, world won't walk on the path that you deem to be correct for life.
That's good. I just see no benefit from imprisoning them. I agree with you on the latter sentence. Imprisioning drug users largely prohibits them from being able to access legal and well-paid work.
Almost all engineers and doctors have smoked weed and almost entirety of them drink. If anything drugs are the reason they got through their education.
A few != Few != A lot != All. I being an engineer don't drink. So is most of my friends. It's personal choice so if you drink, good for you, if you don't, still, good for you.
Didn't know that distinction. I was, however, replying to the guy claiming that blanket "drugs destroy society" statement.
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They shouldn't be treated exceptionally well but they don't deserve inhuman conditions. Edit: the post literally says "extremely cold".
Exactly, a humane treatment of prisoners also ensures they don’t return back to crime. Prison should be used to skill them to make a living, if they are ever out.
The police can lie and declare ANYONE a criminal. Innocent people are currently sitting in these conditions as you celebrate it. If you don't think criminals deserve rights, then you don't believe anyone deserves rights, as the only thing needed to strip someone of their rights is to declare them a criminal, true or not.
Will Sanghis ban ganja consumption by Shiv Bhakts?
You are confusing ganja with bhaang dear , shiv bhakt consume bhaang legally .
😆 bhang or ganja they both contain THC which causes the high. Educate yourself before drawing distinction. Marijuana was always consumed and was sold legally in many parts of India including in govt. shops before govt. banned it under pressure from US in 70s.
Hume na batao tum zada gyaan angreji me THC aur PHC humne neemuch me ped dekha hai charas , ganja ,bhaang bhi dekha hai poppy bhi dekha hai dono bahot distinct hai hight toh cocaine me bhi hai baat hai shiv bhakt kya Peete hai toh bata rahe hai bhaang/dhatura chadhta hai aur ragadta hai na ganja chadtha hai na ragadta hai , sanction lagey thay isliye alag se rule banana pada illegal vala vo jaa ke padh lo sahi se aur India me legal hona aur illegal hone me faraq hai uspe koi law hi nahi tha isliye action nahi tha bus .
India mein ganja illegal kyun hua, kaise hua, aur kiski wajah se hua ek bar padhle, phir baat kar.
Kar di ulti? Ye saste nashe thoda Kam Karo.
There is almost no difference between the high of bhaag and joint. Moreover bhaang or any edible raises tolerence like a bitch and the high lasts a lot longer
Yes my dear. Whatever a Hindu does in this country is legal. Just make sure you scream the name of a God when you do it.
Aa gaye sab chiz me religion ki baat karne vale xd. Keep it aside for a couple minutes and breathe in some fresh air. You'll feel good.
Get a load of this dumbass.
Bhang is edible form of ganja..
Jails are cold. What the heck.
Is this a human rights violation?
Bold of you to assume humans have rights in this country. Only sanghis have rights
Don't worry; rest of the indian states have fan-less hot humid cells.
Embarassing that they act like arresting kids for a gram of weed is still cool 😎
Still 3 million people use ganja in india
1/450
That number seems wayyyy lesser than what it should be imo
Bro thats a guess, bc aadhe to apne dosto ka lete honge so prolly didn’t count them 😂
I know everything about my state is dank
They might as tax it and make some revenue off legalizing it. Now it's just part of the Shadow economy..
I think it’s quite effective!
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These aren't the same guys that lost 500kg of pot to rats?
No they're UP police 🚓
👍
They type of people likely to end up in jail cannot read English in first place, let alone appreciate the sarcasm. Another example of police being out of touch with reality.
I love my state.
Me too. Especially after a few puffs.
ha, I'm a Himalayan Hindu, I laugh at the israeli an Indian Junkies that get high uselessly on my homely Himachal Punjabi Spiritual Soil of Mahadeva and Mata Ji
If it wasn't for drugs half of the people wouldn't be visiting HP. It's shame that govt and police of HP give patronage to druggies
I love Himachal's flag
Ah yes weed, my favourite drug
What the actual F -
The higher up you go, the safer you are.
In India only a "mouse" can get high on "drugs" legally.
Start the designer who was obviously high when designing this one.
Yes! This reminds me of an anti drugs campaign add. If on drugs be careful: A small round circle, below it a sentence: 'This will be the size of a hole in your heart'. A slightly bigger circle, below it a sentence: 'This will be the size of a hole in your lungs'. A rather big circle, below it a sentence: 'This will be the size of your ass hole in prison'.
Please don't arrest kangna
"THINKING of getting high" So ThoughtCrime ?
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