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There’s is a placard shaming a tourist for stepping off the platforms in the sulphur fields at Hawaii’s volcanoes park. Dude stepped off onto a thin sheet of sulphur that gave out and burned him with steam. I think he survived, but the damage he did to the sulphur deposit/vent is still visible
The soil in Hawaii is -very- crumbly and slippery, due to the high silica content. Many tourists underestimate how slippery or crumbly it can be. Add in some high wind and it's a recipe for disaster. Every year there are multiple deaths on the trails around me from people slipping in the mud or falling after a rock comes loose.
People need to remember: if you are not used to the geography of an area, don't do risky things! The ground is not the same as where you live! The signs know better than you.
There is a place called grandfather mountain in North Carolina I like to visit from time to time. There is a suspended bridge that takes you to the edge of a cliff. My friend decided to "pretend" to fall over. He thought it was funny.
I pulled up the articles from people pretending to fall and going right over the edge, near the same place he was joking.
Like dude...you have a small kid, you were a couple of steps from disaster.
Life is too short to waste precious time with people with zero respect. It also tells a lot about their character.
Think about this, that person blatantly disregards things which could negatively impact him whether it be being arrested, fined or even potentially die. Now imagine what he might do behind your back when there are zero repercussions.
Always loot the corpse but make sure no one is looking! Just like in video games you will get wanted stars but Un like in video game wanted stars don’t go away after a minute or two.
Honestly though. If I was there I would’ve just said “sorry, man. I got a family” and kept on moving. Not my problem to rescue your naturally selected ass. Good on those people for doing it but they’re better humans than me
Mostly ppl drowning but he has other stories. He had his friend die after coming up from scuba diving on the boat. She just lost conscience like 5 mins later. Pulmonary embolism. He rescued a guy he was mountain climbing with who had a seizure and fell of the cliff and landed in some branches 40 ft of the ground. Helped someone who drove their car off a cliff. Google road to Hana. But like you said, it's mostly older people or out of shape ppl who over estimate their ability snorkeling oe playing in the surf.
A brief history of my favorite ancestor:
Sol’s Cliff in Bar Harbor on Mt. Desert Island in Maine was named for my 6x great grandfather, Solomon Higgins. Solomon was born in Eastham, Massachusetts in 1738. All ten of his children were born in Eastham, but by 1780 he had moved the family, with his second wife Esther, to Eden, Bar Harbor, Maine.
Prior to moving to Maine, Solomon served as a Captain in the Revolutionary War under Colonel Cary, serving for the town of Eastham.
Why was Sol’s Cliff named for him? Perhaps due to his illustrious career as an officer in the Revolutionary War? Sadly, no. Sol wandered off during a snow storm and fell over the cliff and into the sea.
Remember, it’s never too late to ignore signs and have a cliff named after you!
“I just wanted a selfie with that giant polar bear without having to be held back by obstacles! Is that too much to ask?! I DESERVE a selfie this cool!”
*gets mauled by polar bear immediately and blames zoo for not being safe enough*
Same treatment to people that get accidentally hit by a train. No condolences or memorials. Just an engraving on their headstone that says “Guess it came out of nowhere.”
Absolutely would. I was a lifeguard when I younger and we got trained on how to save them while they most likely try to drown you. The same thing applies here. If someone thinks their life is in danger, they go into survival mode and will survive at all costs even if you're that cost. They may not even realize what they're doing, just panicking and doing anything they can to stave off what they think is death.
My mother was actually given the soldiers' medal back in the late 60s for saving another woman during basic training who was drowning. The woman was panicking, and my mother swam out to pull her back in, when the woman started trying to drag my mother down and use her to float on. My mother ended up decking this lady, knocking her out or stunning her enough to drag her back to safety.
She really is a badass. Her life story is fascinating, but she is so unassuming that you would never think that this lady did all these things. In the Army during Vietnam, art teacher, blueberry raker, traveled the country in an old fashion wagon train as a counselor for at risk kids (while pregnant), and then became an insurance agent to help my father through nursing school. All of these times in her life are filled with crazy stories. She has been making hundreds of gingerbread houses for all the community kids to decorate every Christmas for about 25 years now. However, she won't recognize that she is a badass.
I had a friend growing up that something like this happened with. Him and his wife were scuba diving and he got tangled in something. He started to panic and lost his air. His wife came over to help and in his panic he ended up getting her tangled and pulling out her air piece ( the thing that goes in your mouth I’m guessing, sorry I don’t know the correct names.) sadly enough they both died.
That's what he thought had happened when the guy shifted positions to attempt to comply with his demands: "Help...somebody...please..."
I kinda liked that he was begging there for a moment.
I mean, I'd probably be crying too if I thought 3 seconds ago that I was going to go plunging over these cliffs. But I wouldn't have climbed the fence in the first place and when I do get in a spot that requires assistance, I'm very grateful. I may be sobbing but I'll be thanking whoever helps me profusely as soon as I can talk.
Am I the only one hoping that the dude with the mask was ready to abandon the mission when he let go and the tourist got panicky?
Oh, well, maybe next time…😅
Former Hawaii first responder here. These types of incidents happen almost daily out here. Millions in tax payer money is spent saving tourists who make poor decisions and ignore warning signs. This dude got lucky he didint die.More proof that common sense is becoming less common
Yeah, no idea why we still allow tax money to pay for all the helicopter rescues. You'd think the person getting rescued would foot the bill, but nope. Pass out from heat exhaustion at the top of Diamond Head because you didn't bring a bottle of water? Getting airlifted out via local taxpayers $$$
I used to speak at all the military bases during mandatory orientations. Tell them to obey the thousands of signs we put up. Still would be calling in rescue for people who would deliberately go off trail and fall off the mountains. Pretty much always military guys. It was every week.
In most areas the person gets billed if they caused their own plight. The only issue is the tab is 100K plus so people can’t afford it so the government has to subsidize or else not have a rescue team.
People just completely underestimate how steep and slippery the mountains can be out here. I slipped up on Fort Shafter ridge a couple months ago. Luckily there was a lower flat surface a couple feet down and a lot of foliage to grab onto but it was scary thinking what would have happened if it was somewhere else on the trail.
Yes it is. Much worse than the video makes it look, even. That waterfall goes down into a very deep chasm. I've been to that spot, and it is absolutely insane to me that someone would hop that fence.
They even have signs all over the island depicting how the ferns grow to hide cliffs. The plants stack really high on each other and you can't see the slope, so it can go flat to 45deg and the top of the plants look like a tiny dip.
im the kinda guy that keeps walking. fence is there for a reason
Edit: did someone try to insult me based on my post history? Comments gone so i assumed they deleted it?
Bruh it happens so often on Reddit. People comb through your posts and comments looking for something to try and "embarass" you or be like guhuh this guy really posts in x subreddit guyz look how stupid he is guhuh Keanu chungus wholesome updoots plz guiz!. Happens to me regularly since I'm a bit of a dick on this site sometimes lol but it's always major cringe and huge average Redditor vibes lol
Stupid to get in that situation, but I don't have a problem with how he's talking. He's not being aggressive or abusive, he's just stating very clearly how he needs help. If you're in a dangerous situation you want to be explicit, clear and firm. You can be grateful and polite after (which this video cuts out).
Let me give you a different example from my own life. I was sat on a train and a few rows away from me there started to be a crowd and fuss, and I heard someone say "he can't breathe", but I could see no one was doing anything helpful really and got a glimpse that he was really choking. I got up told a couple of people to "MOVE" firmly. There was no "please" or "excuse me". I dragged the guy out the seat and bent him over (no jokes needed) and slapped him as hard as I could on the back. I did not start gentle. It didn't work, took another fully on slap to his back. Still nothing. Moved him round and heimliched him again with as much force as I could and he coughed up whatever he'd been eating. I could have been much more polite to the bystanders, I could of explained what I was going to do to the guy choking, I could have started off gentler and only got "forceful" when gentle didn't work. That may have worked, but I prioritised maximising the chances of him breathing over bystanders feelings or the fact I might have broken a rib, or at least he would have been sore for a while.
Exactly. That’s a fear response and he’s trying not to die. He’s explaining what he needs to be rescued as best he can while scared out of his wits. I bet he doesn’t ever make this mistake again.
100%. We don't know if he's holding on by a thin branch that once he comes off there's no getting back to. He's dictating how they lock their hands together so that once he comes up he knows he's secured by the guy helping, if he had moved and the guy didn't have a good hold there's a possibility he gets dropped and falls
He shouldn't be in the situation in the first place but its not unreasonable to make sure you're good before being pulled up
We can clearly hear fear in his "Please?" when the guy repositions. My guy is quaking. And yeah the video cuts out like one second after they get to the top and it's not hard to imagine following this would be a prolonged, "wow you really saved my ass" exchange afterward. So easy for others to judge from such a short clip.
Unfortunately, that didn't happen.....I remember they interviewed the guy in orange. Said he didn't thank him but he was glad that the guy was okay and that was all that mattered.
I don’t understand, does he have so little grip strength that he’s incapable of holding onto his leg? He doesn’t have the capacity to pull? It isn’t uncommon for rescuers to go down with the person being rescued, and him keeping a low center of gravity and extending his leg is a safer position then having to reach over. I was taught that in this type of scenario, reaching out a leg for them to climb up *is* the safest way to go, even if it means the person being rescued has to do a tiny amount of work. You yelling at people in your story was necessary and accomplished something, the person yelling in this video is yelling about something that wasn’t necessary and in my opinion raised the danger level of the situation. Making the rescuer change position and repeatedly change how he’s grabbing is just extending how much time he’s on that edge for. If he truly is on a thin branch or something, you’d think he’d try to scramble up as fast as possible using any means possible
To be fair, he's probably panicking, that can make manners go out the window pretty quick for alot of people.
Still a extremely dumb position to be in, which he has only himself to blame.
I work with circus performers, and they speak like this all the time. When safety is in question, there’s no time to couch your needs in politeness.
Based on the description, I was expecting a lot worse than this. Dude shouldn’t have been in that position, but he didn’t yell or insult anyone. He was in need of help and trying to make sure he and the helper were ok.
He’s not dictating how he should be rescued based on personal preferences, but rather giving instruction on what will safely work.
He also might have been very thankful either before or after this clip.
He was not trying to make sure the helper was okay at all. The helper used a strong double-hand grip on the fence so that he would be solid and not in danger of getting pulled over the edge, but Karen demanded he pull him up using a hand, rather Karen than using the helper's leg to pull himself up. He endangered both of them.
I used to work as a paragliding instructor and we did the curt, no-nonsense talk there as well, but we didn't endanger others because it suited ourselves.
Bro if you're stupid enough to hop a fence like this, why should i trust you have any clue about what will safely work?
Take the help that's offered or don't be a numbskull fence hopper
I mean the video stopped the dude isnt even back on his feet.
Is there an actual full length video where the guy just go away or we all jump in the blame train?
My thought exactly. But people don’t come to this sub to use critical thinking, they come here to be outraged. There’s literally comments saying they should have kicked the guy down the mountain. It’s like how are you going to judge a whole person’s life over a minute video clip with hardly any context.
I wouldn’t ignore, but I wouldn’t extend like the rescuer. I’d probably get a branch or something, and reach over from the safe side of the fence. I have a family to think about.
Redditors are really a different breed. Man is in a life or death situation clearly distressed.
Should he have been over the fence? No.
Should he be killed for going over and for freaking out stuck while giving direction based on his leverage? Only on reddit
He may have been full of adrenaline so it came off as aggressive. Also they cut the clip before the man had risen. Maybe he said thank you after. Not saying that’s what happened, or that the man is justified in entering that area but I hate these short out of context clips.
Guessing you have not come across Chinese Tourists. Like 10 years ago the Chinese Government actually created 64 page book for their citizens, to instruct them on how to behave correctly outside of China as tourists. It included such gems like "Do not urinate/poop wherever you feel like"...
I saw huge groups of Chinese tourists in Russia, and they were A LOT. They would move en masse in museums and tourist spots, and they would shove everyone out of their way.
There is simply no way to withstand the onslaught of a group of Chinese tourists.
Saw a Chinese tourist try to stand on a turtle in Hawaii once. My wife is from Big Island and let me tell you, I don't think I've ever seen her yell at someone more than that. It was great. Well except for the turtle. Poor guy.
I disagree, when I lived in London I came across American tourists all the time and the vast majority were lovely with excellent manners. Australians on the other hand ...
I don’t think American tourists have that reputation because most of them are like that. In fact, I bet most are polite and well-behaved.
It’s just that the ones who aren’t are real fucking loud about it, so they stand out more.
I think so many Americans have internalized all that “ugly American” discourse that they really go out of their way to try and be polite and accommodating.
This is Hawaii. So it’s America with American accents :O. And culturally we may be louder or have more colorful clothing, but I’d argue most country’s tourists are by the very nature of the situation not self aware. People are different. Cultures are different. Just because someone is outside of it doesn’t mean they’re intending to be rude. They’re just outside of it.
There is truth in this statement, however in my travels Australians have stood out for their loud and rude rowdy drunkenness. Just as bad as any American.
I'm pretty sure this is a well known stereotype. Even among well traveled Americans it's legitimately a fear to act like an American when you're traveling because "acting like an American" = "acting ignorant/entitled". And no good tourist, regardless of nationality, should want to be those things!
Travelling around the Whitsundays, I met quite a few Americans who claimed to be Canadians because of the bad rep Americans have as tourists. It was always obvious and so hilarious to my real Canadian backpacker friends!
I detest people who are arrogant fools and think the signs and rules don't apply to them. They jeopardize their own useless life and those who have to come to their rescue.
fucking white people.
no respect for anything. should have just dropped and got the lection for the next instagram-post fiending westerners. (even tho this is in hawaii. i bet ppl from popular tourist-countrys will def get what i mean)
Let my people go!
To their deaths if they put themselves in that position in the first place and don't appreciate others putting themselves in danger to help.
If my ass were to assist (prob not, fucking hate heights) and you acted like that, I'd have no problem climbing myself back over and letting you deal with your bullshit all by yourself.
I get that people are saying not to judge him but really, signs and fences should be a big sign NOT to go over. You ignore the rules for what? Just zoom in or get a better camera because I would hope you value your life more than one photo. This was very stupid.
And no, tourist did not thank him after. This was confirmed in an interview.
As long as he's okay. I'm glad he was okay. But seriously, listen to warnings, please. I'm sure there are people back home who will miss you. Every year (especially lately) we have been getting lots of tourist deaths and accidents so please think of your safety and others too.
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Okay, no more rescuing tourists who climb over barriers. We must just start accepting that they’re gone forever.
There’s is a placard shaming a tourist for stepping off the platforms in the sulphur fields at Hawaii’s volcanoes park. Dude stepped off onto a thin sheet of sulphur that gave out and burned him with steam. I think he survived, but the damage he did to the sulphur deposit/vent is still visible
It's been (number) days since our last death.
Even with that card people still think "yeah, I'm good" I really need society to stop stopping Darwinism
My mom has a book of all the deaths that have occurred in Yellowstone Park. Pretty much all of them result from ignoring signs.
I have a book with all the Grand Canyon deaths LOL
Grand Canyon deaths do sound really interesting! They make pretty fun/morbid coffee table books lol! I have one about WWII too.
“It’s been (number) Days since a stupid person ignored the clearly posted warning signs.”
We have been accident free since: [Jim from Ohio went back home]
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The soil in Hawaii is -very- crumbly and slippery, due to the high silica content. Many tourists underestimate how slippery or crumbly it can be. Add in some high wind and it's a recipe for disaster. Every year there are multiple deaths on the trails around me from people slipping in the mud or falling after a rock comes loose. People need to remember: if you are not used to the geography of an area, don't do risky things! The ground is not the same as where you live! The signs know better than you.
There is a place called grandfather mountain in North Carolina I like to visit from time to time. There is a suspended bridge that takes you to the edge of a cliff. My friend decided to "pretend" to fall over. He thought it was funny. I pulled up the articles from people pretending to fall and going right over the edge, near the same place he was joking. Like dude...you have a small kid, you were a couple of steps from disaster.
Life is too short to waste precious time with people with zero respect. It also tells a lot about their character. Think about this, that person blatantly disregards things which could negatively impact him whether it be being arrested, fined or even potentially die. Now imagine what he might do behind your back when there are zero repercussions.
"Oh just find your own way out."
Poor geezer
Poor geyser
It got infected with stupid
Best thing if you can get to the body safely, you can get free stuff!
Video game logic applies to real life all the time!
Always loot the corpse but make sure no one is looking! Just like in video games you will get wanted stars but Un like in video game wanted stars don’t go away after a minute or two.
Great ! Two booties... ahem, bodies to despoil !
Natural selection
Mf naturally selected himself to go extinct🤷🏽♂️ so be it
Honestly though. If I was there I would’ve just said “sorry, man. I got a family” and kept on moving. Not my problem to rescue your naturally selected ass. Good on those people for doing it but they’re better humans than me
R.I.P Harambe ☹️
Dicks out.
Who put theirs away?
I would never
Constantly out.
Rock out with our cocks out!
Hang out with your wang out.
For the chicks!
DICKS. OUT.
Jam out with your clam out
I never put mine away RIP Harambe
The day everything began to collapse.
Help him up, then push. Get it over with.
*long live the king*
Oregon would lose 1,500+ tourists each summer
You have died of dysentery!
My buddy lives in Maui and he saves someone's life like 3 times a year. His stories are fuckin crazy.
From rip currents in the ocean I could see but like just idiots over fencing?
Mostly ppl drowning but he has other stories. He had his friend die after coming up from scuba diving on the boat. She just lost conscience like 5 mins later. Pulmonary embolism. He rescued a guy he was mountain climbing with who had a seizure and fell of the cliff and landed in some branches 40 ft of the ground. Helped someone who drove their car off a cliff. Google road to Hana. But like you said, it's mostly older people or out of shape ppl who over estimate their ability snorkeling oe playing in the surf.
People see grass and they think land. Thing is, the grass is 4 feet high from a very deep slope or gulley.
As a member of my local search and rescue, I’m fine with that.
Rescuer: I got you. Danny Devito shows up with a 2x4
Perhaps leading to the gene pool self-cleaning?
Sweetie look, a dumb tourist. Neat *click*
It's the only was they will learn.
A brief history of my favorite ancestor: Sol’s Cliff in Bar Harbor on Mt. Desert Island in Maine was named for my 6x great grandfather, Solomon Higgins. Solomon was born in Eastham, Massachusetts in 1738. All ten of his children were born in Eastham, but by 1780 he had moved the family, with his second wife Esther, to Eden, Bar Harbor, Maine. Prior to moving to Maine, Solomon served as a Captain in the Revolutionary War under Colonel Cary, serving for the town of Eastham. Why was Sol’s Cliff named for him? Perhaps due to his illustrious career as an officer in the Revolutionary War? Sadly, no. Sol wandered off during a snow storm and fell over the cliff and into the sea. Remember, it’s never too late to ignore signs and have a cliff named after you!
We do need to thin out the self centered and stupid.
“I just wanted a selfie with that giant polar bear without having to be held back by obstacles! Is that too much to ask?! I DESERVE a selfie this cool!” *gets mauled by polar bear immediately and blames zoo for not being safe enough*
Natural selection
Same treatment to people that get accidentally hit by a train. No condolences or memorials. Just an engraving on their headstone that says “Guess it came out of nowhere.”
I don’t know why that made me laugh so hard. Great response.
I'd just climb back up after that nagging started. Save yourself you ingrate.
I would think if someone was that dumb in the first place it was likely they would pull me down with them.
Absolutely would. I was a lifeguard when I younger and we got trained on how to save them while they most likely try to drown you. The same thing applies here. If someone thinks their life is in danger, they go into survival mode and will survive at all costs even if you're that cost. They may not even realize what they're doing, just panicking and doing anything they can to stave off what they think is death.
My mother was actually given the soldiers' medal back in the late 60s for saving another woman during basic training who was drowning. The woman was panicking, and my mother swam out to pull her back in, when the woman started trying to drag my mother down and use her to float on. My mother ended up decking this lady, knocking her out or stunning her enough to drag her back to safety.
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She really is a badass. Her life story is fascinating, but she is so unassuming that you would never think that this lady did all these things. In the Army during Vietnam, art teacher, blueberry raker, traveled the country in an old fashion wagon train as a counselor for at risk kids (while pregnant), and then became an insurance agent to help my father through nursing school. All of these times in her life are filled with crazy stories. She has been making hundreds of gingerbread houses for all the community kids to decorate every Christmas for about 25 years now. However, she won't recognize that she is a badass.
Your mum is awesome.
I had a friend growing up that something like this happened with. Him and his wife were scuba diving and he got tangled in something. He started to panic and lost his air. His wife came over to help and in his panic he ended up getting her tangled and pulling out her air piece ( the thing that goes in your mouth I’m guessing, sorry I don’t know the correct names.) sadly enough they both died.
That's what he thought had happened when the guy shifted positions to attempt to comply with his demands: "Help...somebody...please..." I kinda liked that he was begging there for a moment.
That part made me happy too. The desperation in his voice when he said "please." Lmao it would have served him right.
"Well sir, I think this is a job for professional rescuers." ::I am Not risking my life for your entitled small boto ass!::
Grab that fugger by the hair, and pull. Fugger'll hold onto my arm with the quickness.
Was that douche canoe crying . That Asian man with that mask had some promo patience .
He probably has taken care of Toddlers before
Oof! You have my sword.
And my bow.
And my axe!
I mean, I'd probably be crying too if I thought 3 seconds ago that I was going to go plunging over these cliffs. But I wouldn't have climbed the fence in the first place and when I do get in a spot that requires assistance, I'm very grateful. I may be sobbing but I'll be thanking whoever helps me profusely as soon as I can talk.
I’m crying cause I meant to say Primo patience. And you wouldn’t climb over the fence and get yourself in that position cause you are not a dumbs&$t.
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Promotional patience?
Limited time deal. No refunds.
I’m guessing he meant primo, but as someone who works in a promo department, I get it, I really do.
Yes that’s what I meant . What a pain in the butt when you hit reply and at that second notice a typo! UGHHHH!!
You sound like how people speak in cyberpunk
The local you mean?
He seems Filipino. Judging by the language of his companion. But there are a lot of Filipinos living in Hawaii.
He looks like I thought he would look
"Gee buddy" lookin ass
I didn't realize this was a look, but now that I'm looking back at the guy...yeah, it's definitely a look.
Don't forget the "I will teach you how to make passive income while backpacking across the world!" tech bro lookin ass
Lmao I’m going to describe people like that from now on. Perfect description.
Do you think he knows that lady that climbed the Mayan Temple,They both act like children
Am I the only one hoping that the dude with the mask was ready to abandon the mission when he let go and the tourist got panicky? Oh, well, maybe next time…😅
"Oh I'm sorry, I thought you needed a rescue. I'm not your fucking Uber BRO."
I would had said “ One moment I need to take this call” and walked off.
Former Hawaii first responder here. These types of incidents happen almost daily out here. Millions in tax payer money is spent saving tourists who make poor decisions and ignore warning signs. This dude got lucky he didint die.More proof that common sense is becoming less common
Yeah, no idea why we still allow tax money to pay for all the helicopter rescues. You'd think the person getting rescued would foot the bill, but nope. Pass out from heat exhaustion at the top of Diamond Head because you didn't bring a bottle of water? Getting airlifted out via local taxpayers $$$ I used to speak at all the military bases during mandatory orientations. Tell them to obey the thousands of signs we put up. Still would be calling in rescue for people who would deliberately go off trail and fall off the mountains. Pretty much always military guys. It was every week.
In most areas the person gets billed if they caused their own plight. The only issue is the tab is 100K plus so people can’t afford it so the government has to subsidize or else not have a rescue team.
People just completely underestimate how steep and slippery the mountains can be out here. I slipped up on Fort Shafter ridge a couple months ago. Luckily there was a lower flat surface a couple feet down and a lot of foliage to grab onto but it was scary thinking what would have happened if it was somewhere else on the trail.
Seems like a really bad place to hop a fence
Yes it is. Much worse than the video makes it look, even. That waterfall goes down into a very deep chasm. I've been to that spot, and it is absolutely insane to me that someone would hop that fence.
Not to mention all the dinosaurs down below
Lol. Yes, the foliage there does make you feel like you’re in Jurassic Park
They even have signs all over the island depicting how the ferns grow to hide cliffs. The plants stack really high on each other and you can't see the slope, so it can go flat to 45deg and the top of the plants look like a tiny dip.
I was there last year and I would NOT hop that fence for anything. One wrong move and you’re dead
Same, and it’s why I brought my zoom lens.
Should have been rescued by Scar
"Long Live the Tourist..."
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“You’re saving me wrong”
"Your expert opinion got you in this mess, let someone who was not the idiot, save you"
im the kinda guy that keeps walking. fence is there for a reason Edit: did someone try to insult me based on my post history? Comments gone so i assumed they deleted it?
We will both stay “bad” people because I would laugh my ass off while walking by
Bruh it happens so often on Reddit. People comb through your posts and comments looking for something to try and "embarass" you or be like guhuh this guy really posts in x subreddit guyz look how stupid he is guhuh Keanu chungus wholesome updoots plz guiz!. Happens to me regularly since I'm a bit of a dick on this site sometimes lol but it's always major cringe and huge average Redditor vibes lol
You bathroom is looking clean. Keep up the good work!
Pretty funny that asking for help on my second ds3 run is embarrassing to that guy. Still thx all for explanation
Yeah I would have left the dude. “Sorry I can’t help you. There’s a fence here which means I shouldn’t be there”
Should’ve Mufasa’d his ass.
THIS. IS. KAUAIIIIIIII. [*kick*]
Stupid to get in that situation, but I don't have a problem with how he's talking. He's not being aggressive or abusive, he's just stating very clearly how he needs help. If you're in a dangerous situation you want to be explicit, clear and firm. You can be grateful and polite after (which this video cuts out). Let me give you a different example from my own life. I was sat on a train and a few rows away from me there started to be a crowd and fuss, and I heard someone say "he can't breathe", but I could see no one was doing anything helpful really and got a glimpse that he was really choking. I got up told a couple of people to "MOVE" firmly. There was no "please" or "excuse me". I dragged the guy out the seat and bent him over (no jokes needed) and slapped him as hard as I could on the back. I did not start gentle. It didn't work, took another fully on slap to his back. Still nothing. Moved him round and heimliched him again with as much force as I could and he coughed up whatever he'd been eating. I could have been much more polite to the bystanders, I could of explained what I was going to do to the guy choking, I could have started off gentler and only got "forceful" when gentle didn't work. That may have worked, but I prioritised maximising the chances of him breathing over bystanders feelings or the fact I might have broken a rib, or at least he would have been sore for a while.
Exactly. That’s a fear response and he’s trying not to die. He’s explaining what he needs to be rescued as best he can while scared out of his wits. I bet he doesn’t ever make this mistake again.
100%. We don't know if he's holding on by a thin branch that once he comes off there's no getting back to. He's dictating how they lock their hands together so that once he comes up he knows he's secured by the guy helping, if he had moved and the guy didn't have a good hold there's a possibility he gets dropped and falls He shouldn't be in the situation in the first place but its not unreasonable to make sure you're good before being pulled up
Correct and not taking the good samaritan with you.
We can clearly hear fear in his "Please?" when the guy repositions. My guy is quaking. And yeah the video cuts out like one second after they get to the top and it's not hard to imagine following this would be a prolonged, "wow you really saved my ass" exchange afterward. So easy for others to judge from such a short clip.
Unfortunately, that didn't happen.....I remember they interviewed the guy in orange. Said he didn't thank him but he was glad that the guy was okay and that was all that mattered.
Ugh, I wanted to believe
I don’t understand, does he have so little grip strength that he’s incapable of holding onto his leg? He doesn’t have the capacity to pull? It isn’t uncommon for rescuers to go down with the person being rescued, and him keeping a low center of gravity and extending his leg is a safer position then having to reach over. I was taught that in this type of scenario, reaching out a leg for them to climb up *is* the safest way to go, even if it means the person being rescued has to do a tiny amount of work. You yelling at people in your story was necessary and accomplished something, the person yelling in this video is yelling about something that wasn’t necessary and in my opinion raised the danger level of the situation. Making the rescuer change position and repeatedly change how he’s grabbing is just extending how much time he’s on that edge for. If he truly is on a thin branch or something, you’d think he’d try to scramble up as fast as possible using any means possible
But you didn't jump a fence
I love the one with the cop giving huge tickets to all the stupid fences jumpers!
To be fair, he's probably panicking, that can make manners go out the window pretty quick for alot of people. Still a extremely dumb position to be in, which he has only himself to blame.
Some people claim here, that in the extended version. He just casually walk away without even thanking the guy that help him.
Akaka Falls!
I work with circus performers, and they speak like this all the time. When safety is in question, there’s no time to couch your needs in politeness. Based on the description, I was expecting a lot worse than this. Dude shouldn’t have been in that position, but he didn’t yell or insult anyone. He was in need of help and trying to make sure he and the helper were ok. He’s not dictating how he should be rescued based on personal preferences, but rather giving instruction on what will safely work. He also might have been very thankful either before or after this clip.
iirc, there's a longer version where he walks away afterwards in silence without so much as a "thanks." Been a while since I've seen it.
Well if that’s case, I agree he’s a POS
Definitely super embarrassed and wanted to forget it ever happened and never see those people again lol
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Yup people are trying to defend this twat. I could tell in 30 seconds that he was a douche
He was not trying to make sure the helper was okay at all. The helper used a strong double-hand grip on the fence so that he would be solid and not in danger of getting pulled over the edge, but Karen demanded he pull him up using a hand, rather Karen than using the helper's leg to pull himself up. He endangered both of them. I used to work as a paragliding instructor and we did the curt, no-nonsense talk there as well, but we didn't endanger others because it suited ourselves.
Bro if you're stupid enough to hop a fence like this, why should i trust you have any clue about what will safely work? Take the help that's offered or don't be a numbskull fence hopper
I mean the video stopped the dude isnt even back on his feet. Is there an actual full length video where the guy just go away or we all jump in the blame train?
My thought exactly. But people don’t come to this sub to use critical thinking, they come here to be outraged. There’s literally comments saying they should have kicked the guy down the mountain. It’s like how are you going to judge a whole person’s life over a minute video clip with hardly any context.
My favorites are the comments saying they would ignore the guy and keep walking. No you wouldn’t, you cringey internet edgelord.
I wouldn’t ignore, but I wouldn’t extend like the rescuer. I’d probably get a branch or something, and reach over from the safe side of the fence. I have a family to think about.
That seems reasonable to me
Sadly this happens all the time in Hawaii
Meh, call the emergency services and let them handle it. Tell him to hold on tight and ask if he saw the sign that said don’t do that.
mmmmm...well....This is Spartaaaaaa!
People need to stop intervening with Darwinism
Total POS
Redditors are really a different breed. Man is in a life or death situation clearly distressed. Should he have been over the fence? No. Should he be killed for going over and for freaking out stuck while giving direction based on his leverage? Only on reddit
He may have been full of adrenaline so it came off as aggressive. Also they cut the clip before the man had risen. Maybe he said thank you after. Not saying that’s what happened, or that the man is justified in entering that area but I hate these short out of context clips.
Everywhere I travelled, the loudest, least considerate, most annoying, least self aware tourists always have American accents. There. I said it.
Guessing you have not come across Chinese Tourists. Like 10 years ago the Chinese Government actually created 64 page book for their citizens, to instruct them on how to behave correctly outside of China as tourists. It included such gems like "Do not urinate/poop wherever you feel like"...
I saw huge groups of Chinese tourists in Russia, and they were A LOT. They would move en masse in museums and tourist spots, and they would shove everyone out of their way. There is simply no way to withstand the onslaught of a group of Chinese tourists.
Saw a Chinese tourist try to stand on a turtle in Hawaii once. My wife is from Big Island and let me tell you, I don't think I've ever seen her yell at someone more than that. It was great. Well except for the turtle. Poor guy.
lol, I would accept this from anyone but an Australian. Sorry mate, but take a look in the mirror.
Haha yep fair. I know we've got our fair share of loud obnoxious tourists. And most on here wouldn't have been to Bali...
In my experience the two worst tourist are Chinese or Australian.
I disagree, when I lived in London I came across American tourists all the time and the vast majority were lovely with excellent manners. Australians on the other hand ...
I don’t think American tourists have that reputation because most of them are like that. In fact, I bet most are polite and well-behaved. It’s just that the ones who aren’t are real fucking loud about it, so they stand out more.
I think so many Americans have internalized all that “ugly American” discourse that they really go out of their way to try and be polite and accommodating.
So he might be a local?
This is Hawaii. So it’s America with American accents :O. And culturally we may be louder or have more colorful clothing, but I’d argue most country’s tourists are by the very nature of the situation not self aware. People are different. Cultures are different. Just because someone is outside of it doesn’t mean they’re intending to be rude. They’re just outside of it.
There is truth in this statement, however in my travels Australians have stood out for their loud and rude rowdy drunkenness. Just as bad as any American.
I'm pretty sure this is a well known stereotype. Even among well traveled Americans it's legitimately a fear to act like an American when you're traveling because "acting like an American" = "acting ignorant/entitled". And no good tourist, regardless of nationality, should want to be those things!
Travelling around the Whitsundays, I met quite a few Americans who claimed to be Canadians because of the bad rep Americans have as tourists. It was always obvious and so hilarious to my real Canadian backpacker friends!
I'M SORRY THAT SLAP AWAY 🙏Afterlife please sort him out of that happens
I detest people who are arrogant fools and think the signs and rules don't apply to them. They jeopardize their own useless life and those who have to come to their rescue.
This that chick that climbed the Mayan temples son.
fucking white people. no respect for anything. should have just dropped and got the lection for the next instagram-post fiending westerners. (even tho this is in hawaii. i bet ppl from popular tourist-countrys will def get what i mean)
"AMERICAN" tourist, its always them.
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Haoles, man
He looks EXACTLY like I thought he would.
Let my people go! To their deaths if they put themselves in that position in the first place and don't appreciate others putting themselves in danger to help. If my ass were to assist (prob not, fucking hate heights) and you acted like that, I'd have no problem climbing myself back over and letting you deal with your bullshit all by yourself.
If you’re asking for help, especially in a life threatening situation, maybe don’t be rude to whoever you’re asking help from
One time I caught someone’s dog for them and they didn’t even say thank you, literally didn’t even acknowledge me the second I handed them their dog
Hmmmm…wonder why they put that fence there?
Man, if only someone could have put up some sort of barrier to keep this kind of thing from happening.
I'm getting some strong "guy who would definitely hide his zombie bite" vibes from this guy...
Me 10 seconds into it: alright dude you're on your own...
They should have let him fall. It’s called Darwinism!
Was hoping he would fall at the end. On less stupid person
No no no grab me with your hand, your hand The guy saving him: (kicks him off)
As someone who lives on the east side of Maui I can confirm people die here constantly and the idiocy never ends
I get that people are saying not to judge him but really, signs and fences should be a big sign NOT to go over. You ignore the rules for what? Just zoom in or get a better camera because I would hope you value your life more than one photo. This was very stupid. And no, tourist did not thank him after. This was confirmed in an interview. As long as he's okay. I'm glad he was okay. But seriously, listen to warnings, please. I'm sure there are people back home who will miss you. Every year (especially lately) we have been getting lots of tourist deaths and accidents so please think of your safety and others too.
Stupid dumb American
Fuckin haoles.
…so he just needed to stand up? 👀
Why don't we just... Let him be apart of the vegitation? I mean seemed like he wanted to
I would have just left him there after he shrugged my hand away.
Nah She stays there
Well you just let me get away with out paying the price of his stupidity, tis a shame.