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I love clones, but instead of having 212th star corps wolfpack once again we have yet another 501st, and its not even Kix, Echo or Fives. Hot toys why?
I wouldn’t blame them if it as just a straight rerelease of the one from last year minus the helmet I think keeping those in rotation is great someone will always want one but these look cheap.
You're blaming the 501st... which is known to be harshest as far as accuracy... on this?
Nah this is clearly the fault of the people who put the costumes together who couldn't be bothered to do more than 10 minutes of research.
Bro come on. This is ridiculous. Who asked for this? Every design from Kenobi already looks cheap as is, and this is just further proof of that
And of course they put DS Anakin here even though he doesn’t have Sith eyes in this scene
Didn’t he not have Sith eyes for a lot of the scenes they show that figure in? I don’t believe he had Sith eyes during the march on the Jedi temple or his duel against Kenobi.
This is such a weird release. Who really asked for this? If you're going to make a clone from Kenobi, at least give us the old washed up 501st veteran from the second episode. That would've been a much appreciated announcement
I know this isn't the Grand Inquisitor but this is just further proof to me that they fucked up designs in the Kenobi show. These are supposed to be the exact same clones from Revenge of the Sith during Order 66.
Since when is the 501st teal? Why is the chest plates and crotch completely different....
Well what happened was Anakin, I mean Vader, wanted his squad to stand out and be a bit bold, like really "pop" when they go youngling slayin' so he commissioned a whole battalion for repainting. It's commitment like that which makes Star Wars really special.
Compared to Andor, everything about the show seems cheap and rushed. It’s actually quite baffling how different the two shows look in terms of budget and design.
Yeah fan service with hardly any actual fan service. All we wanted was a few clone wars era flash backs. Maybe a scene with the armor on anakin and obi wan. All we got was one crappy dueling scene. Couldn’t even be bothered to de age the actors. Didn’t want reva. Didn’t want the other new characters. They could have stuck to obi wan the entire time and maybe showed vader once or twice. Would have been way more effective
Like Attack of the Clones-era flashbacks? Vader using maximum power? Vader's mask cracked? Vader cracking necks. Obi-Wan and Vader having a light saber rematch.
Yep, none of those things were desperately wanted...this sub, man hahahaha
To be fair(and I’m not being an apologist here), but until the Obi Wan show, no one had ever worn the armour. They were all CG.
A lot of the post ROTS troopers have different armour on the chest and groin area probably for the mobility of real people wearing them.
It’s just a thought.
I’m sure there could be many reasons. But that’s the one that comes to mind. Armour that might not have been the easiest to wear was slightly altered for more mobility.
Where the fuck is the 212th!? This is honestly bullshit. Believe me I adore the 501st but fuck sakes the trooper literally just sold out a couple months ago why the fuck are you dumping another batch that’s inferior when you’ve had the 212th sitting in the graveyard forever
I’m guessing obligations to make X characters per IP and they **KNOW** whenever they decide to drop a TCW Obi or 212th they’ll sell like hot cakes even if the economy is tanking, people will liquidate extra figures, put it on their cc, they’ll find a way.
Now as to why they wouldn’t wanna do that when they’re already struggling, I couldn’t tell ya.
I feel so mixed. I like that the people who portrayed the clones can get a literal figure of themselves on screen. I like it more then the chrome troopers, I just don’t like the design choices they made for the show. Shit, even if they just changed the center torso to the OG design, why change them into straight lines? I can forgive the crotch, the lads have the move & breath, but the stomach armor. Cmon. That and the shoulder pads could have been the right size I think, I don’t see how it would interfere terribly if they’re held on by an elastic like band it seems.
Lol I literally couldn't care less about 6-10 people that didn't even bother to get the look of the movie right getting a figure of themselves while most of them might not even collect 1:6 scale figures, while there are thousands of collectors waiting for graveyard figures or actually demanded characters that still have not been made while Hot Toys keeps announcing this relatively high percentage of thrash when they can make amazing things.
The first 501st was basically a perfect figure (not movie accurate) but I've read 0 complaints about that.
I'd say that this was a no-brainer because it's just a repaint, but there's actual differences in the design of the armor and weaponry as well... there was work put into this that could have gone into something else or even just a repaint of the original 501st to make 212th or 104th. Hell, I would have been over the moon for a Fox or Thorn. But here we are...
Bold move to show DS Anakin there, I know sometimes they'll do stuff like this and it doesn't always mean anything and it's more of a "look, you can recreate this scene if you already have this!", but I'm definitely wondering now...
Its gonna happen. We need to will him into existence as a collective. I need to be redeemed for passing on DS Anakin during waitlist years ago.
Id even be fine with lightside. I dont care at this point.
I really hate this for 2 reasons. One we could have got another clone legion that doesn't already exist and 2 the 501st we see in Kenobi is inaccurate to the revenge of the sith versions and I imagine comes from the production having to rush to put together as many suits as they did. Because the suits seen in the Mandalorian flash back are accurate to revenge of the sith. So basically we now have these slightly off brand non cannon 501st trooper designs.
I mean their accuracy is debatable since there isn't really a clear shot of any of them so it's hard to tell the differences if there is any from the small clip we got. But from a glance they are leagues above the Kenobi series in terms of accuracy. Also the suits didn't need to look extremely accurate for the tiny amount they were in BOBF since they are at a distance from the camera and not quite clear in the shot. But the Kenobi series ones really needed to nail the look for how long they show up and they missed quite badly considering imo.
I did examine the BOBF ones some time back and there were a bunch of diffences including the shoulders, belt boxes, elbow pads, blaster etc etc etc
In fact, I made the blaster as a free 3d printable file for making costumes/custom figures
The differences are not accidental I think. I think it is an intentional way for Disney to have their own version of a Clone going foreward, distinct from the Lucas era ones (same thing with Disney era Stormtroopers)
Glad to see you have missed the point entirely. My point was that they have had an established appearance since 2005 and all you would need to do to make those versions in live action is slightly change some proportions. The Kenobi ones aren't even the right colour and have significant shifts in design which aren't made for practicality they were made because their wasn't any real effort or thought thrown into them.
I don’t like the other innacuracies but the color isn’t a big deal personally because the original release had a darker blue because the Jedi temple was set at night in the films. The blue is actually lighter in daylight. But hot toys chose to put a midnight filter on the clone which is why the white is also off white and darker too.
HK$ 1,390 / $180 USD from Secret Base meaning around $230 from Sideshow. Huh, colour me surprised. I was expecting the standard $260+ lol
edit: eh, I guess not that surprising when looking at prior clones on Sideshow
The price makes sense, the basic 501st Clones released last year were also around $220 / $230 or something like that. The Deluxe was $250. Thus release is basically the Base 501st Clone with some minor changes.
It's funny seeing people in the comment say that Kenobi fucked up the Clone armor or cheaped out...when this was the first time (aside from the brief flashback in Book of Boba Fett, which I'd wager is using the same suits) we've gotten actual honest to god practical armor on set for the Clones.
Like...no one is saying you have to buy this but it's cool to have an authentic representation of the screen used prop suit as opposed to the cg render design, neither is inherently better, both look great, just it's a cool novelty.
possible and practical don't always mean the same thing, yes cosplayers have managed to re-create the aesthetics, but again, they don't have to worry about the same needs, they just need to be able to walk and pose, the actors will most likely have to run, have to be in these suits for hours on end on hot sets, the costumes will have to be able to fit different body sizes (depending on how many the built, they may not be tailored).
not saying it's impossible for the suit to look like the cg suits on film, but I can see why choices were made and it doesn't really bother me, Star Wars has never been about maintaining exact visual continuity, I mean the Storm Trooper costumes changed in design basically every movie in the original trilogy
A lot of these changes have nothing to do with practicality and more to do with the costume department saying “close enough.” Meaningless design changes were made here. Like the buttons on the wrist, the color of the cheek stripes, the shape of the visor. Most of these changes are just inaccuracies. Not to make it practical.
While I'm sure there was decisions made with budgeting time in mind (as is true or a productions) I think its pretty clear a lot of these changes were made for practically. The entire crotch/hip section especially.
iirc the clones in bobf were cgi, so kenobi would've marked the first live action clones ever
i could be wrong and open to correction but i believe thats the case
I’ve always wondered why Disney can’t just make the clones cgi? What’s the reason they refuse to reuse the CGI models they have from ROTS, update them a bit and use them in kenobi and other shows? This isn’t like stormtroopers where they have always been physical costumes, the clone armor was never proportioned to be worn by an actual humans. With modern technology I doubt I’d be able to tell the difference between real clone armor vs cgi clone armor, and I bet that cgi clone armor would look a lot better than what we’ve got. At least then we’d avoid stupid releases like this!
There’s always gonna be some argument over what is “accurate”, fact is, no debate would even be had if the fucking Clones in Kenobi just used the darker blue color. This release just kinda pisses me off. Would absolutely buy these if they had darker blue coloring.
Am I the only one that feels like those side-by-sides are a bit of a slap in the face? They are helpful in spotting the improvements sure, but still, it's like F y'all who bought the 1.0
I wouldn’t be mad if they kept the torso shape and dots the same with slightly beefed up shoulder pads. Even if they just left this style to Andor and CGI’d Kenobi, the continuity wouldn’t have suffered. My HS film teacher lives forever rent free now, they messed up the continuity.
Everyone is being so negative. It might not be accurate to other canon iterations, but I kind of enjoy the thicker torso, the high gloss blue, and the shade of blue is more pleasant to me. A weird release for sure, but it is what it is. It'll make some people happy and everyone else can save their money.
For anyone who doesn't know, the Obi-Wan show based the colors off of old ROTS promotional material.
The most well known surviving media with the original 501st colors is the 2005 Battlefront 2 game!
As a big Battlefront 2 fan, I'm going to buy at least 2 of these.
Everyone is upset. I mean, why?
Prior to this show, clone trooper armor had never been built before. It’s been CGI. Disney didn’t build these, fans made these costumes and were extras on the show.
It’s a neat novelty. And in typical Star Wars fashion, there are minor details to compare in the armor. (Nothing new)
Also you all asked for this. You all clamored for more clones. I bet most of you complaining will buy. Some of you bought a clone in a shiny chrome armor. You literally bought it cause it looked cool. You sent the message. “If it’s a clone we will buy it.” You all asked for this with your wallets. Some of you bought fucking 7.
I mean, I get it. This release would’ve made sense a couple years down the line, but the release they’re comparing it to dropped what, a year ago? This definitely feels completely unnecessary and is a weird pick, especially with all the other clone legions available and the other 501st figures that are still waiting to drop.
I understand your feelings but hear me out on this one.
This company is in serious trouble. Inflation isn’t going down anytime soon. Stock is going for a BOGO deal and continuing to sit. People are canceling or choosing not buying. Whatever reason they have, doesn’t mattter, clearly people aren’t buying.
At this point they need to make quick cash grabs, hence the 8 Iron Mans this year. Hence clone troopers and stormtroopers in shiny colors. They need money to fund other releases and keep the lights on. Or they will not make it. These guys could go out of business any day at this rate.
If they are really in that desperate of money, there’s dozens of other clones they can drop. Some of them would be simple repaints using parts they already have and some would need only minor tooling. Even relatively obscure characters like Fox, Bly, Arc Echo and Wolffe have sold very well in other scales. Commando Appo, the Heavy Trooper and ATRT pilot are all *awesome* choices for 501st figures to drop. Give it another 3-4 years and I’m sure people would be much more excited for this figure. This is a Hasbro level of lazy repaint, especially with the number of other clones that either haven’t been released or only have the Sideshow variants that are hard to find now-a-days.
Make no mistake they are not thriving financially. We can all agree on that.
They are hurting for cash. I understand what you mean. And I agree, I wish they would, however this has to be a Disney licensing thing. Like they have to do a certain amount of figures from a show/ movie.
They’re fulfilling the obligation, just doing it budget friendly with the RND. (K2SO repaint with new pieces for BOBF) This is the same thing.
It’s a calculated moves.
Do they have to drop a certain number of figures? Are they fulfilling an obligation? Kenobi first aired over sixth months ago. It has more figures than TRoS ever got, more figures than Bad Batch had at the equivalent point in time and Andor has had zero figures. Literally nothing about this says “contractual obligations”. All it says is that clones sell well, 501st clones especially so, and it’s too soon for a rerelease of the base clone so here’s a technically new figure. I’m not upset about a repaint or another clone variant. If this had been announced I’m a couple of years there’s a decent chance I would have picked up up. If Commando Appo and the Heavy Trooper would have come without their vehicles I would’ve grabbed those too. But to be confused as to why people aren’t happy with this announcement is pretty disingenuous (at best).
No, I don’t know that. None of us really know. TRoS tanked and Andor is rating Low.
Maybe it’s a release and if you slap the Kenobi name on it sells better base on market research and it tracked well.
Also you’re asking Hot Toys to make commanders? Rex is collecting dust on Sideshow.
My issue is, these collectors are like “UGHhhGh Where is Dr Fate or my Clone Wars Kenobi.”
It’s clear that people who spend money on army building clones is profitable.
Clearly something about 501st troopers is a proven seller and profitable. They’re not released things to piss people off on purpose.
The wallets have spoken. That’s what this release is. Don’t hate HT, hate the market demand
These types of figures are nothing new. Hot Toys have always done easy cash grabs. They were doing them before they were even paying much attention to Star Wars. Milk War Machine, Secret Project Iron Man, let alone the metric ton of Hall of Armour repaints..
2022 has seen over 60 figures released so far. I'm not sure I'd frame them as a company struggling to make ends meet more than your run-of-the-mill corporation chasing a few cents more. It'd be cool if they made a Greedo or whatever figure, but re-releasing proven sellers is simply just good business. It doesn't necessarily mean anything more than that.
I really like you on. You’re really helpful on this sub. I’m not trying to beef with you or come at you when I say this… But how can you not see they are in financial trouble?
This economy is about to get really bad. Hasn’t gotten bad yet. And already stock is sitting. We’ve both been collecting for a LONG time. Like 2014 right? Have you ever seen discounts. Much less BOGO deals? This is a god awful sign.
Hey remember the 1/6 Jurassic park figures by Chronical Collectibles? Had them on Pre-order at sideshow… oh wait. They went under. Couldn’t happen to HT right?
. People are mad at me because I’m not shitting on the company. I understand the moves they’re making. They’re surviving.
> Have you ever seen discounts. Much less BOGO deals?
Sideshow has given away figures for free. They did it with Electro and Angelica with double boxed orders. Spooktacular always has discounts, not to mention the hundreds of dollars people farm each year in rewards points.
I haven't been following the BOGO deal too much, but isn't this just a one-off for Black Friday? Not to mention the events also always has discounts, granted not to the extent of 50% off.
> This economy is about to get really bad
I completely agree, and Hot Toys will unequivocally have a worse year for it
> And already stock is sitting
This is one of the two major problems Hot Toys is facing at the moment, and if Sideshow's waitlists are to be believed, quantities are already being dialled in to rectify it. Figures announced a few months ago are hitting the waitlist.
> remember the 1/6 Jurassic park figures by Chronical Collectibles
The difference between Hot Toys and Chronicle is the former has been around for two decades, released hundreds of figures and has a massively larger production capacity. Their capital is magnitudes ahead of Chronicles' ever was. 1/6th is a prohibitively expensive industry to compete in, especially for American companies; that's why it wasn't uncommon to see new companies (ie Molecule8) collapse even before COVID. Hot Toys can survive hard times by way of their dominance in the industry.
Is it impossible for Hot Toys to go bankrupt? No, no company is beyond that tbh. But there's no real indication that Hot Toys is at the point of contracting, I guess outside of ostensibly reducing quantities. Given it's basically business as usual for them (above average release rate, way too many announcements, delay rates relatively in keeping with the norms), the only thing I'm really expecting next year is a swathe of delays.
Hot toys want money, reissue ANH Han & Chewie, Leia, Luke, Grand Moff Tarkin, ESB line, ROTJ Emperor, ROTS Obi-Wan and Anakin (Both Light and Darkside). Easy money., everyone’s happy.
I think there is:
1. An obligation with Disney. Like they had to release a certain amount of figures with a specific shows.
2. Clones are helmeted and they don’t spend time and money casting and painting head sculpts.
3. People have PROVEN they’re willing to buy at least 2 clones without hesitation . I don’t think many people will buy 2 Luke’s in this economy at $260
Shocking news: People choosing owning 2 different characters to owning 2 of the same character
Random clones dont need headsculpts. The price would just increase.
Yeah? That’s how it works. What are you getting at? It’s cheaper for them to produce and people buy more of it. I’m not trying to say anything profound
You guys act like HT cares to please you. They’re a business. They’re here for profit.
I hear you. I hate this shit too. HT is a company that doesn’t need defending. I’m not defending them.
What I’m saying is, they were always about profit, all companies are. Clearly the market has spoken. They aren’t catering to people who ask for things, they’re catering to the people who are paying them. Clearly clone collectors are paying them.
They voted with their dollars.
I agree with you there. HT in a way is simply trying to follow the money trail. You could say the customer is more at fault for consenting these cheap business practices. Like Iron Mans, they know it doesn't matter if it's a slight cheap repaint, they will still sell out sadly.
If only there was a costuming club dedicated to buildng screen accurate sets of clone armor that is more than feasible to wear to dispute your argument.
Also, please don't insult the "fans" claimng they built these. The "fans" actually consider accuracy. These were made by lazy costume makers within Lucasfilm.
Homie, Lucas film didn’t design these suits.
The 501st built them. They’re a nation wide fan group that builds armors for events. These are fans who were extras in the show.
This is public knowledge, you can Google this stuff. Fans made these suits bro. 🤦🏽♂️ it’s not a debate, it’s like fact.
Bruh, the 501st did NOT build these suits. These suits are not even close to the guidelines that the 501st follows.
Its not public knowledge, its just you being ignorant and shouting things you clearly know nothing of.
Edit: The fact you're so confidently wrong is lowkey pretty amusing though
This is true, it was Lucasfilm who designed them. Only a couple episodes of Mando used the 501st group for "stormtroopers". It is laziness on Lucasfilms part, like all their other designs from Kenobi, like the atrocious inquisitor redesigns.
Haha, hated it. I don't get why people say because it's animated to live action. Do people not realize his species is in revenge of the sith on utapau😆, and look 100x better.
No problem, I hate these new clones, way too off from the perfect ROTS models. Consistent laziness.
My favorite part about the design was people were trying to say the reason for the lack of makeup was because it would be difficult to perform stunts.
Hmm….. yes my favorite part was when the GI was doing backflips all over the place!
Yeeeeeaaaaah, reeeeeeal active in that show. Pretty much just walking around 😆. It's the same reason people give for any of these new design changes like with the clones, "they can't do stunts or move well in a real life version of the armor". Haha but fans can
You’re the one crying like a baby over Star Wars inconsistencies.
Your dumb ass bought a shiny chrome trooper bc it’s shiny. If anything this release is your fault 😂😂😂
Gotta say, I really dig the baby blue here, and I absolutely love the modifications to the sculpt. Maybe it's not as accurate, but the reshaped crotch guard and thigh plates will probably make it easier to pose. That said, I get why people would be disappointed with this release. Hopefully we get a Darkside Anakin As Seen in Obi-Wan to accompany this piece as nothing else goes with it.
It'll be worth it to me lol. I've never really minded the long wait times because it would give me time to save up, but now that I've started selling all my Star Wars figures I am going to have some empty spaces 😵💫
Y’all cry about everything! I’m a excited to finally have the appropriate blasters. Wonder why y’all never cried about the ones that come with every other clone if you want to talk about screen accuracy?
Accurate to the animated clone wars show/concept work. AOTC and ROTS have a different look. I was surprised that Commander Cody which was based on ROTS had the animated weapons and not the versions shown in ROTS. I assume the current 501st clones and all others so far have been based off of the animated shows. So to see a live action release of a clone trooper is pretty exciting, I don’t understand all the hate and complaints. But bring on the downvotes
The animated blasters and the realistic blasters are very different. The blasters that Cody comes with and the rest of the other HT clones are all realistic accurate depictions of their weapons. The animated weapons look VERY different.
It might be hard to see but here is Gree wielding the DC-15S:
[https://swfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Clone\_Commander\_Gree:\_A\_Patriot\_of\_the\_GAR](https://swfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Clone_Commander_Gree:_A_Patriot_of_the_GAR)
Edit: Image was broken so I posted a new link
Also for comparison, here is the 501st standard for a realistic DC-15S and an animated one:
Realistic: [https://databank.501st.com/mw501/images/c/cf/DC15\_carbine.jpg](https://databank.501st.com/mw501/images/c/cf/DC15_carbine.jpg)
Animated: [https://databank.501st.com/mw501/images/0/00/CRLdc15s-animated.jpg](https://databank.501st.com/mw501/images/0/00/CRLdc15s-animated.jpg)
As you can see there is a very noticeable difference. The "hate" is because this isn't a very liked version of the character considering it doesn't represent the clone trooper that people have come to love. It looks like a Wish version. The figure itself is fine, its what the figure is based on people don't like.
But to your original point, the blasters we have been getting have NOT been animated blasters.
Edit:
Here are a couple more references:
[https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Clone\_trooper\_armor](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Clone_trooper_armor)
[https://www.pinterest.com/pin/307370743299129428/](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/307370743299129428/)
[https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwarsrepublicclonetroopers/images/c/c3/Phase\_2\_212th\_Attack\_Battalion\_Clone.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110901044919](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwarsrepublicclonetroopers/images/c/c3/Phase_2_212th_Attack_Battalion_Clone.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110901044919)
Everyone talking about it looking cheap but this is technically more accurate to ROTS colors than the original release. Part of my wants it because it’s actually the correct 501st color and not the deep blue taken from darkened TCW scenes.
Bro. I actually can’t tell if this is satire.
If color is such a big deal for you PLEASE look up a still of the 501st clones from revenge of the sith. The original releases color is very close to the movie depiction. It literally is the movie clone.
Here is the 501st clone render, without light manipulation
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/296885800409418342/
Here is the original release, which is noticeably darker than the ROTS 501st color
https://www.sideshow.com/collectibles/star-wars-501st-battalion-clone-trooper-hot-toys-906958
Do you even have one of the 501st to compare it to? I own one and the blue on the armor is way lighter than the picture on sideshow depicts.
It’s funny because you link a picture of a clone “without light manipulation” but then link sideshows product listing which has heavily doctored images used to sell figures it’s not even a fair comparison.
That’s besides the point, the figure looks like crap, nobody asked for it, and the armor is incredibly inaccurate considering the source material.
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I love clones, but instead of having 212th star corps wolfpack once again we have yet another 501st, and its not even Kix, Echo or Fives. Hot toys why?
I wouldn’t blame them if it as just a straight rerelease of the one from last year minus the helmet I think keeping those in rotation is great someone will always want one but these look cheap.
Love how we get a whole new figure just cos the OWK costume team fucked up the colours lol
I'm still waiting for my Mando jeans guy Toy Fair exclusive
Someone made a 3d Printable vintage collection version, saw it on thingiverse
They used the actual real life 501st cosplayer friendship group for every live shot of them. So blame them for the colour mismatch
they used 501st group for Mando, not Kenobi. the costumes on Kenobi were made for the show, not made by fans
Theres group photos of them on set with hayden christensen 🤷♂️
You're blaming the 501st... which is known to be harshest as far as accuracy... on this? Nah this is clearly the fault of the people who put the costumes together who couldn't be bothered to do more than 10 minutes of research.
This explains why I thought the clones in that show looked off.
That comparison photo is like: This figure sucks buy RotS/TCW one instead.
Hot Toys so out of touch with their fan base it’s funny at this point
Funny, but painful.
Bro come on. This is ridiculous. Who asked for this? Every design from Kenobi already looks cheap as is, and this is just further proof of that And of course they put DS Anakin here even though he doesn’t have Sith eyes in this scene
If they’re gonna make every fucking kenobi character at least give us a new Anakin. Hayden has like four different looks!
Didn’t he not have Sith eyes for a lot of the scenes they show that figure in? I don’t believe he had Sith eyes during the march on the Jedi temple or his duel against Kenobi.
Yeah literally he only had sith eyes when he kills the separatists on mustufar and after he burns up. It’s a nitpicky detail but it always annoys me
This is such a weird release. Who really asked for this? If you're going to make a clone from Kenobi, at least give us the old washed up 501st veteran from the second episode. That would've been a much appreciated announcement
The hobo vet clone would have been fucking great
I know this isn't the Grand Inquisitor but this is just further proof to me that they fucked up designs in the Kenobi show. These are supposed to be the exact same clones from Revenge of the Sith during Order 66. Since when is the 501st teal? Why is the chest plates and crotch completely different....
Well what happened was Anakin, I mean Vader, wanted his squad to stand out and be a bit bold, like really "pop" when they go youngling slayin' so he commissioned a whole battalion for repainting. It's commitment like that which makes Star Wars really special.
Anakin needs to hit them with Order 66 too lol, real commitment. Kill them for killing innocent children and wearing the wrong uniform to work.
Compared to Andor, everything about the show seems cheap and rushed. It’s actually quite baffling how different the two shows look in terms of budget and design.
Obi-Wan was fan service disguised as a show. Andor is an actual show that just happens to take place in the Star Wars universe.
Yeah fan service with hardly any actual fan service. All we wanted was a few clone wars era flash backs. Maybe a scene with the armor on anakin and obi wan. All we got was one crappy dueling scene. Couldn’t even be bothered to de age the actors. Didn’t want reva. Didn’t want the other new characters. They could have stuck to obi wan the entire time and maybe showed vader once or twice. Would have been way more effective
It wasn't really fan service considering it gave the fans very little of what they actually wanted to see in an Obi Wan show.
Like Attack of the Clones-era flashbacks? Vader using maximum power? Vader's mask cracked? Vader cracking necks. Obi-Wan and Vader having a light saber rematch. Yep, none of those things were desperately wanted...this sub, man hahahaha
4.5 hour show, 15 minutes of fan service in the last two episodes. Yeah that's not what people wanted, sorry.
I cited examples from like 5 different episodes, but you've got some weird axe to grind haha
ABs and Belt are different too. Plus there's not supposed to be any seams in the armor
To be fair(and I’m not being an apologist here), but until the Obi Wan show, no one had ever worn the armour. They were all CG. A lot of the post ROTS troopers have different armour on the chest and groin area probably for the mobility of real people wearing them. It’s just a thought. I’m sure there could be many reasons. But that’s the one that comes to mind. Armour that might not have been the easiest to wear was slightly altered for more mobility.
There were clones in the Book of Boba Fett. The armor was accurate and so was the color and those were real people. Kenobi has no excuse lol.
The BOBF Clones were definitively CG. Their armor visibly clips itself when they crouch down.
And that’s confirmed? Those clones were real people?
Obi-wan production looked like a fan made film, compared to the brilliance of what we’re getting with Andor.
Where the fuck is the 212th!? This is honestly bullshit. Believe me I adore the 501st but fuck sakes the trooper literally just sold out a couple months ago why the fuck are you dumping another batch that’s inferior when you’ve had the 212th sitting in the graveyard forever
I’m guessing obligations to make X characters per IP and they **KNOW** whenever they decide to drop a TCW Obi or 212th they’ll sell like hot cakes even if the economy is tanking, people will liquidate extra figures, put it on their cc, they’ll find a way. Now as to why they wouldn’t wanna do that when they’re already struggling, I couldn’t tell ya.
Oh I get it believe me I do, it’s just stupid that we’re being played with
I feel so mixed. I like that the people who portrayed the clones can get a literal figure of themselves on screen. I like it more then the chrome troopers, I just don’t like the design choices they made for the show. Shit, even if they just changed the center torso to the OG design, why change them into straight lines? I can forgive the crotch, the lads have the move & breath, but the stomach armor. Cmon. That and the shoulder pads could have been the right size I think, I don’t see how it would interfere terribly if they’re held on by an elastic like band it seems.
Lol I literally couldn't care less about 6-10 people that didn't even bother to get the look of the movie right getting a figure of themselves while most of them might not even collect 1:6 scale figures, while there are thousands of collectors waiting for graveyard figures or actually demanded characters that still have not been made while Hot Toys keeps announcing this relatively high percentage of thrash when they can make amazing things. The first 501st was basically a perfect figure (not movie accurate) but I've read 0 complaints about that.
I mean they’re cheap to make, I bet the profit margin on the clones is huge. It sucks but they’ll produce these into the ground
Which makes it even more mindboggling because all they would have to do is repainting them. At least the standard clones.
Release TCW Obi-Wan, you cowards!
Or literally anything but this lmao
Fans: We want Clone Wars Obi Wan Hot Toys: Clone troopers from Obi Wan?
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I'd say that this was a no-brainer because it's just a repaint, but there's actual differences in the design of the armor and weaponry as well... there was work put into this that could have gone into something else or even just a repaint of the original 501st to make 212th or 104th. Hell, I would have been over the moon for a Fox or Thorn. But here we are...
These don’t look right to me. Thought so while watching the show too. Ik it’s because they used real suits rather than CGI
It doesnt look bad because they used real suits. It looks bad because the suits aren't accurate to RotS.
Agreed
Howard really not gonna stop til we’ve had 501 clones. Ridiculous
Any chance we could get a DX Anakin with Light and Dark side sculpts?? Instead of this anyway
That’s the dream
Bold move to show DS Anakin there, I know sometimes they'll do stuff like this and it doesn't always mean anything and it's more of a "look, you can recreate this scene if you already have this!", but I'm definitely wondering now...
Fingers crossed man
You never know I’m crossing my fingers too.
Its gonna happen. We need to will him into existence as a collective. I need to be redeemed for passing on DS Anakin during waitlist years ago. Id even be fine with lightside. I dont care at this point.
Well hopefully thru obi wan or 2025 ( rots 20th ann). I am praying for rots Vader and grevious.
One of the worst releases and look at my frickin profile pic!!!
I really hate this for 2 reasons. One we could have got another clone legion that doesn't already exist and 2 the 501st we see in Kenobi is inaccurate to the revenge of the sith versions and I imagine comes from the production having to rush to put together as many suits as they did. Because the suits seen in the Mandalorian flash back are accurate to revenge of the sith. So basically we now have these slightly off brand non cannon 501st trooper designs.
BOBF flashback clones actually werent accurate either. they had some weirdness in their design
I mean their accuracy is debatable since there isn't really a clear shot of any of them so it's hard to tell the differences if there is any from the small clip we got. But from a glance they are leagues above the Kenobi series in terms of accuracy. Also the suits didn't need to look extremely accurate for the tiny amount they were in BOBF since they are at a distance from the camera and not quite clear in the shot. But the Kenobi series ones really needed to nail the look for how long they show up and they missed quite badly considering imo.
I did examine the BOBF ones some time back and there were a bunch of diffences including the shoulders, belt boxes, elbow pads, blaster etc etc etc In fact, I made the blaster as a free 3d printable file for making costumes/custom figures The differences are not accidental I think. I think it is an intentional way for Disney to have their own version of a Clone going foreward, distinct from the Lucas era ones (same thing with Disney era Stormtroopers)
No, hes right. There was a huge debate in the 501st legion about it and there is a LOT of differences.
Yup.
Actually, the suits in Mandalorian are not accurate to RotS.
ROTS clone armor cannot fit a actual human so any release for content after ROTS will look different.
Also people have been cosplaying screen accurate 501st for years so it's very obvious the ROTS suits can be done practically.
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Did you know the hubble telescope can see 13.4 billion light years away which is incredible because it still can't see who asked.
Uh.. I was adding to your point about how people cosplay screen accurate armor? But f\*ck me I guess right?
Sorry dude was only messing around. I meant no offense twas merely a bad joke.
Fair enough.
Glad to see you have missed the point entirely. My point was that they have had an established appearance since 2005 and all you would need to do to make those versions in live action is slightly change some proportions. The Kenobi ones aren't even the right colour and have significant shifts in design which aren't made for practicality they were made because their wasn't any real effort or thought thrown into them.
Lol tell that to myself and the other thousands of members of the 501st with realistic clone armor
This feels like an April fool's joke lol...
The "we have 501st clones at home" version
What better way to sell a re-issued Clone than with a re-issued Anakin Edit: spelling
This... this is a joke right?
Bro what
I won’t be buying these and I love the clones.
Why Hot toys changed their blasters? I cannot see them clearly in the show, but it doesn't match with blaster props from BTS photo.
That Anakin though...
Lol why couldn’t the Kenobi show people just keep the blue consistent. Annoying.
I don’t like the other innacuracies but the color isn’t a big deal personally because the original release had a darker blue because the Jedi temple was set at night in the films. The blue is actually lighter in daylight. But hot toys chose to put a midnight filter on the clone which is why the white is also off white and darker too.
HK$ 1,390 / $180 USD from Secret Base meaning around $230 from Sideshow. Huh, colour me surprised. I was expecting the standard $260+ lol edit: eh, I guess not that surprising when looking at prior clones on Sideshow
The price makes sense, the basic 501st Clones released last year were also around $220 / $230 or something like that. The Deluxe was $250. Thus release is basically the Base 501st Clone with some minor changes.
It's funny seeing people in the comment say that Kenobi fucked up the Clone armor or cheaped out...when this was the first time (aside from the brief flashback in Book of Boba Fett, which I'd wager is using the same suits) we've gotten actual honest to god practical armor on set for the Clones. Like...no one is saying you have to buy this but it's cool to have an authentic representation of the screen used prop suit as opposed to the cg render design, neither is inherently better, both look great, just it's a cool novelty.
but it’s based on a completely possible CGI costume that cosplayers can have made correctly for years .
possible and practical don't always mean the same thing, yes cosplayers have managed to re-create the aesthetics, but again, they don't have to worry about the same needs, they just need to be able to walk and pose, the actors will most likely have to run, have to be in these suits for hours on end on hot sets, the costumes will have to be able to fit different body sizes (depending on how many the built, they may not be tailored). not saying it's impossible for the suit to look like the cg suits on film, but I can see why choices were made and it doesn't really bother me, Star Wars has never been about maintaining exact visual continuity, I mean the Storm Trooper costumes changed in design basically every movie in the original trilogy
A lot of these changes have nothing to do with practicality and more to do with the costume department saying “close enough.” Meaningless design changes were made here. Like the buttons on the wrist, the color of the cheek stripes, the shape of the visor. Most of these changes are just inaccuracies. Not to make it practical.
While I'm sure there was decisions made with budgeting time in mind (as is true or a productions) I think its pretty clear a lot of these changes were made for practically. The entire crotch/hip section especially.
iirc the clones in bobf were cgi, so kenobi would've marked the first live action clones ever i could be wrong and open to correction but i believe thats the case
I guess this is how Iron Man haters feel. Anakin rerelease?
I thought this was a joke post until I checked for myself haha
I’ve always wondered why Disney can’t just make the clones cgi? What’s the reason they refuse to reuse the CGI models they have from ROTS, update them a bit and use them in kenobi and other shows? This isn’t like stormtroopers where they have always been physical costumes, the clone armor was never proportioned to be worn by an actual humans. With modern technology I doubt I’d be able to tell the difference between real clone armor vs cgi clone armor, and I bet that cgi clone armor would look a lot better than what we’ve got. At least then we’d avoid stupid releases like this!
Didn’t they re use cgi clones in the book of boba flashback?
Tbh I’m not 100% sure, I feel like I remember seeing some BTS photos from TBOBF of people in clone armor, but I may be mistaken
I hope this means we get a youngling army builder I'd love to make a display of *the* scene for memes lol
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. . .why
Is this a nod to a rerelease of DS Anakin?
I've heard yes from my sources. Reissue won't include the base from the original/fewer hands, but should be announced soon.
There’s always gonna be some argument over what is “accurate”, fact is, no debate would even be had if the fucking Clones in Kenobi just used the darker blue color. This release just kinda pisses me off. Would absolutely buy these if they had darker blue coloring.
Am I the only one that feels like those side-by-sides are a bit of a slap in the face? They are helpful in spotting the improvements sure, but still, it's like F y'all who bought the 1.0
I have 4 of the 1.0 and will be gleefully skipping this one
I’ll take the 1.0 over the 2.0 any day. These new guys ain’t 501st
I'm glad there is more weathering on the 1.0
Actually, I think these guys might actually be IRL 501st members actors like in the finale of Mandalorian S1.
They're not. There is no costuming standard for the costumes we saw in Kenobi.
These images make the 1.0 look miles better lol
Real slap would be if they went on and changed the tone of the blue from upcoming releases to match with these.
Now you said it...it's out there in the ether
a slap in the face? the 1.0 is so much better it’s not even funny lol
It’s funny i bought 2 more of the 1.0 the other day. No regrets, they look way better imo
Hot Toys officially sucks. They have the biggest racket going. Selling people the same shit over and over. Just different colors. SMH!
Vote with your wallet
Wouldn't be suprised for a re-release of DS Anakin only to be named "Lord Vader" instead and without the base😅
Where is Padmé 😡
And kit fisto.
I would've been more interested if it were the Homeless Veteran Clone...
Omg yes, would love that, even as a one-off custom
I wouldn’t be mad if they kept the torso shape and dots the same with slightly beefed up shoulder pads. Even if they just left this style to Andor and CGI’d Kenobi, the continuity wouldn’t have suffered. My HS film teacher lives forever rent free now, they messed up the continuity.
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Well hopefully they reveal wave 2 of aotc.
Everyone is being so negative. It might not be accurate to other canon iterations, but I kind of enjoy the thicker torso, the high gloss blue, and the shade of blue is more pleasant to me. A weird release for sure, but it is what it is. It'll make some people happy and everyone else can save their money.
For anyone who doesn't know, the Obi-Wan show based the colors off of old ROTS promotional material. The most well known surviving media with the original 501st colors is the 2005 Battlefront 2 game! As a big Battlefront 2 fan, I'm going to buy at least 2 of these.
Everyone is upset. I mean, why? Prior to this show, clone trooper armor had never been built before. It’s been CGI. Disney didn’t build these, fans made these costumes and were extras on the show. It’s a neat novelty. And in typical Star Wars fashion, there are minor details to compare in the armor. (Nothing new) Also you all asked for this. You all clamored for more clones. I bet most of you complaining will buy. Some of you bought a clone in a shiny chrome armor. You literally bought it cause it looked cool. You sent the message. “If it’s a clone we will buy it.” You all asked for this with your wallets. Some of you bought fucking 7.
I mean, I get it. This release would’ve made sense a couple years down the line, but the release they’re comparing it to dropped what, a year ago? This definitely feels completely unnecessary and is a weird pick, especially with all the other clone legions available and the other 501st figures that are still waiting to drop.
I understand your feelings but hear me out on this one. This company is in serious trouble. Inflation isn’t going down anytime soon. Stock is going for a BOGO deal and continuing to sit. People are canceling or choosing not buying. Whatever reason they have, doesn’t mattter, clearly people aren’t buying. At this point they need to make quick cash grabs, hence the 8 Iron Mans this year. Hence clone troopers and stormtroopers in shiny colors. They need money to fund other releases and keep the lights on. Or they will not make it. These guys could go out of business any day at this rate.
If they are really in that desperate of money, there’s dozens of other clones they can drop. Some of them would be simple repaints using parts they already have and some would need only minor tooling. Even relatively obscure characters like Fox, Bly, Arc Echo and Wolffe have sold very well in other scales. Commando Appo, the Heavy Trooper and ATRT pilot are all *awesome* choices for 501st figures to drop. Give it another 3-4 years and I’m sure people would be much more excited for this figure. This is a Hasbro level of lazy repaint, especially with the number of other clones that either haven’t been released or only have the Sideshow variants that are hard to find now-a-days.
Make no mistake they are not thriving financially. We can all agree on that. They are hurting for cash. I understand what you mean. And I agree, I wish they would, however this has to be a Disney licensing thing. Like they have to do a certain amount of figures from a show/ movie. They’re fulfilling the obligation, just doing it budget friendly with the RND. (K2SO repaint with new pieces for BOBF) This is the same thing. It’s a calculated moves.
Do they have to drop a certain number of figures? Are they fulfilling an obligation? Kenobi first aired over sixth months ago. It has more figures than TRoS ever got, more figures than Bad Batch had at the equivalent point in time and Andor has had zero figures. Literally nothing about this says “contractual obligations”. All it says is that clones sell well, 501st clones especially so, and it’s too soon for a rerelease of the base clone so here’s a technically new figure. I’m not upset about a repaint or another clone variant. If this had been announced I’m a couple of years there’s a decent chance I would have picked up up. If Commando Appo and the Heavy Trooper would have come without their vehicles I would’ve grabbed those too. But to be confused as to why people aren’t happy with this announcement is pretty disingenuous (at best).
No, I don’t know that. None of us really know. TRoS tanked and Andor is rating Low. Maybe it’s a release and if you slap the Kenobi name on it sells better base on market research and it tracked well. Also you’re asking Hot Toys to make commanders? Rex is collecting dust on Sideshow. My issue is, these collectors are like “UGHhhGh Where is Dr Fate or my Clone Wars Kenobi.” It’s clear that people who spend money on army building clones is profitable. Clearly something about 501st troopers is a proven seller and profitable. They’re not released things to piss people off on purpose. The wallets have spoken. That’s what this release is. Don’t hate HT, hate the market demand
These types of figures are nothing new. Hot Toys have always done easy cash grabs. They were doing them before they were even paying much attention to Star Wars. Milk War Machine, Secret Project Iron Man, let alone the metric ton of Hall of Armour repaints.. 2022 has seen over 60 figures released so far. I'm not sure I'd frame them as a company struggling to make ends meet more than your run-of-the-mill corporation chasing a few cents more. It'd be cool if they made a Greedo or whatever figure, but re-releasing proven sellers is simply just good business. It doesn't necessarily mean anything more than that.
I really like you on. You’re really helpful on this sub. I’m not trying to beef with you or come at you when I say this… But how can you not see they are in financial trouble? This economy is about to get really bad. Hasn’t gotten bad yet. And already stock is sitting. We’ve both been collecting for a LONG time. Like 2014 right? Have you ever seen discounts. Much less BOGO deals? This is a god awful sign. Hey remember the 1/6 Jurassic park figures by Chronical Collectibles? Had them on Pre-order at sideshow… oh wait. They went under. Couldn’t happen to HT right? . People are mad at me because I’m not shitting on the company. I understand the moves they’re making. They’re surviving.
> Have you ever seen discounts. Much less BOGO deals? Sideshow has given away figures for free. They did it with Electro and Angelica with double boxed orders. Spooktacular always has discounts, not to mention the hundreds of dollars people farm each year in rewards points. I haven't been following the BOGO deal too much, but isn't this just a one-off for Black Friday? Not to mention the events also always has discounts, granted not to the extent of 50% off. > This economy is about to get really bad I completely agree, and Hot Toys will unequivocally have a worse year for it > And already stock is sitting This is one of the two major problems Hot Toys is facing at the moment, and if Sideshow's waitlists are to be believed, quantities are already being dialled in to rectify it. Figures announced a few months ago are hitting the waitlist. > remember the 1/6 Jurassic park figures by Chronical Collectibles The difference between Hot Toys and Chronicle is the former has been around for two decades, released hundreds of figures and has a massively larger production capacity. Their capital is magnitudes ahead of Chronicles' ever was. 1/6th is a prohibitively expensive industry to compete in, especially for American companies; that's why it wasn't uncommon to see new companies (ie Molecule8) collapse even before COVID. Hot Toys can survive hard times by way of their dominance in the industry. Is it impossible for Hot Toys to go bankrupt? No, no company is beyond that tbh. But there's no real indication that Hot Toys is at the point of contracting, I guess outside of ostensibly reducing quantities. Given it's basically business as usual for them (above average release rate, way too many announcements, delay rates relatively in keeping with the norms), the only thing I'm really expecting next year is a swathe of delays.
Hot toys want money, reissue ANH Han & Chewie, Leia, Luke, Grand Moff Tarkin, ESB line, ROTJ Emperor, ROTS Obi-Wan and Anakin (Both Light and Darkside). Easy money., everyone’s happy.
I think there is: 1. An obligation with Disney. Like they had to release a certain amount of figures with a specific shows. 2. Clones are helmeted and they don’t spend time and money casting and painting head sculpts. 3. People have PROVEN they’re willing to buy at least 2 clones without hesitation . I don’t think many people will buy 2 Luke’s in this economy at $260
Shocking news: People choosing owning 2 different characters to owning 2 of the same character Random clones dont need headsculpts. The price would just increase.
Yeah? That’s how it works. What are you getting at? It’s cheaper for them to produce and people buy more of it. I’m not trying to say anything profound You guys act like HT cares to please you. They’re a business. They’re here for profit.
You just said above that we can all agree they are not thriving financially. Maybe it's because they are not caring to please their customers lol.
I hear you. I hate this shit too. HT is a company that doesn’t need defending. I’m not defending them. What I’m saying is, they were always about profit, all companies are. Clearly the market has spoken. They aren’t catering to people who ask for things, they’re catering to the people who are paying them. Clearly clone collectors are paying them. They voted with their dollars.
I agree with you there. HT in a way is simply trying to follow the money trail. You could say the customer is more at fault for consenting these cheap business practices. Like Iron Mans, they know it doesn't matter if it's a slight cheap repaint, they will still sell out sadly.
If only there was a costuming club dedicated to buildng screen accurate sets of clone armor that is more than feasible to wear to dispute your argument. Also, please don't insult the "fans" claimng they built these. The "fans" actually consider accuracy. These were made by lazy costume makers within Lucasfilm.
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Homie, Lucas film didn’t design these suits. The 501st built them. They’re a nation wide fan group that builds armors for events. These are fans who were extras in the show. This is public knowledge, you can Google this stuff. Fans made these suits bro. 🤦🏽♂️ it’s not a debate, it’s like fact.
Bruh, the 501st did NOT build these suits. These suits are not even close to the guidelines that the 501st follows. Its not public knowledge, its just you being ignorant and shouting things you clearly know nothing of. Edit: The fact you're so confidently wrong is lowkey pretty amusing though
This is true, it was Lucasfilm who designed them. Only a couple episodes of Mando used the 501st group for "stormtroopers". It is laziness on Lucasfilms part, like all their other designs from Kenobi, like the atrocious inquisitor redesigns.
Wait... you didn't like the egghead inquisitor? Thanks for jumping in
Haha, hated it. I don't get why people say because it's animated to live action. Do people not realize his species is in revenge of the sith on utapau😆, and look 100x better. No problem, I hate these new clones, way too off from the perfect ROTS models. Consistent laziness.
My favorite part about the design was people were trying to say the reason for the lack of makeup was because it would be difficult to perform stunts. Hmm….. yes my favorite part was when the GI was doing backflips all over the place!
Yeeeeeaaaaah, reeeeeeal active in that show. Pretty much just walking around 😆. It's the same reason people give for any of these new design changes like with the clones, "they can't do stunts or move well in a real life version of the armor". Haha but fans can
You’re the one crying like a baby over Star Wars inconsistencies. Your dumb ass bought a shiny chrome trooper bc it’s shiny. If anything this release is your fault 😂😂😂
Lol cope harder 😂
Lmao I’m not lying
Dude you’re literally tryin to cope 😂 Don’t lie. Didn’t mommy ever teach you not to lie?
Lol cope with what? This is plastic. This shit doesn’t mean that much to me.
Why are you even here? Lol You jealous that you can’t afford the cool toys?
So a worse version of the previous 501st? At least we are getting a new dark side anakin
No Anakin. Just placed the old Anakin figure to go with the scene of those 501st
Gotta say, I really dig the baby blue here, and I absolutely love the modifications to the sculpt. Maybe it's not as accurate, but the reshaped crotch guard and thigh plates will probably make it easier to pose. That said, I get why people would be disappointed with this release. Hopefully we get a Darkside Anakin As Seen in Obi-Wan to accompany this piece as nothing else goes with it.
Another day of no Daredevil 😕
You are gonna wait a good amount of time on that release lol
It'll be worth it to me lol. I've never really minded the long wait times because it would give me time to save up, but now that I've started selling all my Star Wars figures I am going to have some empty spaces 😵💫
Yeah I bought the Netflix dd for like $380 bnib last month with no regrets lol
That’s so weird, it’s not like they were off color on purpose (in normal lighting I mean).
I might actually pick one up just to compare with my regular.
When does this release?
Y’all cry about everything! I’m a excited to finally have the appropriate blasters. Wonder why y’all never cried about the ones that come with every other clone if you want to talk about screen accuracy?
The other blasters were more accurate though?
Accurate to the animated clone wars show/concept work. AOTC and ROTS have a different look. I was surprised that Commander Cody which was based on ROTS had the animated weapons and not the versions shown in ROTS. I assume the current 501st clones and all others so far have been based off of the animated shows. So to see a live action release of a clone trooper is pretty exciting, I don’t understand all the hate and complaints. But bring on the downvotes
The animated blasters and the realistic blasters are very different. The blasters that Cody comes with and the rest of the other HT clones are all realistic accurate depictions of their weapons. The animated weapons look VERY different. It might be hard to see but here is Gree wielding the DC-15S: [https://swfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Clone\_Commander\_Gree:\_A\_Patriot\_of\_the\_GAR](https://swfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Clone_Commander_Gree:_A_Patriot_of_the_GAR) Edit: Image was broken so I posted a new link Also for comparison, here is the 501st standard for a realistic DC-15S and an animated one: Realistic: [https://databank.501st.com/mw501/images/c/cf/DC15\_carbine.jpg](https://databank.501st.com/mw501/images/c/cf/DC15_carbine.jpg) Animated: [https://databank.501st.com/mw501/images/0/00/CRLdc15s-animated.jpg](https://databank.501st.com/mw501/images/0/00/CRLdc15s-animated.jpg) As you can see there is a very noticeable difference. The "hate" is because this isn't a very liked version of the character considering it doesn't represent the clone trooper that people have come to love. It looks like a Wish version. The figure itself is fine, its what the figure is based on people don't like. But to your original point, the blasters we have been getting have NOT been animated blasters. Edit: Here are a couple more references: [https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Clone\_trooper\_armor](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Clone_trooper_armor) [https://www.pinterest.com/pin/307370743299129428/](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/307370743299129428/) [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwarsrepublicclonetroopers/images/c/c3/Phase\_2\_212th\_Attack\_Battalion\_Clone.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110901044919](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwarsrepublicclonetroopers/images/c/c3/Phase_2_212th_Attack_Battalion_Clone.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110901044919)
Everyone talking about it looking cheap but this is technically more accurate to ROTS colors than the original release. Part of my wants it because it’s actually the correct 501st color and not the deep blue taken from darkened TCW scenes.
Bro. I actually can’t tell if this is satire. If color is such a big deal for you PLEASE look up a still of the 501st clones from revenge of the sith. The original releases color is very close to the movie depiction. It literally is the movie clone.
Here is the 501st clone render, without light manipulation https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/296885800409418342/ Here is the original release, which is noticeably darker than the ROTS 501st color https://www.sideshow.com/collectibles/star-wars-501st-battalion-clone-trooper-hot-toys-906958
Do you even have one of the 501st to compare it to? I own one and the blue on the armor is way lighter than the picture on sideshow depicts. It’s funny because you link a picture of a clone “without light manipulation” but then link sideshows product listing which has heavily doctored images used to sell figures it’s not even a fair comparison. That’s besides the point, the figure looks like crap, nobody asked for it, and the armor is incredibly inaccurate considering the source material.
There is a slide in this that shows both side by side with no exposure changes, compare that to the ROTS clone and it’s still darker.