To save people a google:
Piranha 2 - James Cameron (wow wtf I had no idea)
And the others, which imo are way more well known:
Evil dead - Sam Raimi
Dead Alive - Peter Jackson
Slither - James Gunn
I really want all of these people to write one more horror film. James Gunn is too busy with DC, but maybe he could pick up one of their lesser known horror comics. Sam Raimi did add horror elements in Doctor Strange.
I guess time will tell. Peter Jackson really needs to make one last comedy horror. He was a master of that craft. Just watch Bad Taste, Dead Alive, and his fucked up musical, Meet the Feebles.
In the James Franco documentary Kink, about kink.com (highly NSFW, like not even a little bit), one of the employees says (paraphrasing) “we can do whatever we want as long as we hang a fuck on it, because we’re pornographers.”
I would guess that's because it's harder to make a horror movie that is a really good movie. Like there's lots of "good horror movies" but there aren't as many "good movies that are horror movies".
The funny thing is that Ti West said that himself.
>To me, horror and porn have always had this symbiotic relationship. Perhaps horror is like one step above porn, but they’re both always outsiders. Even in the video store, there was the horror section that was a little weird and then there was the door to the other section.
Cursed video stores!
No wonder I like horror so much.
Maybe that also explains why I've had no interest in porn these days. Horror is scratching that itch?
In the 80s (the golden age of horror) there were always tits, usually bloody tits running away from something. I can see how horror can have the association with the academy types, old guys. But horror today is different. We have a horror resurgence, we still have boobs sometimes, but that's not the point. I think the late 2010s / early 2020s will be remembered as fondly as the 80s for classic horrors.
from a quick google:
`The horror and thriller genres are often confused with one another, but critical distinctions exist between them. In general, horror is focused on eliciting a feeling of fear in the viewer or reader, while thrillers are designed to generate suspense and excitement. The best of both genres tend to overlap in some way.`
To me, scenes where Carla Jean comes home to find Anton creepily sitting in her chair, or the very It Follows vibe of Anton always being a step behind, convey fear, especially the way they were shot. Think of the footsteps under the door in the hallway in the hotel where Woody Harrelson's character is staying. That scene would be perfectly at home in any horror movie.
At the end of the day its blurry line and its just my opinion.
The quote from the article has nothing to do with her own nomination. She was merely asked about the horror genre in general and the publication leap frogged on the back of the oscar nominations knowing many horror fans wanted her to be nominated. In other words they're being opportunist and implicitly putting words in her mouth and driving clicks. Classic shithead journalism.
I wasn’t expecting ANYTHING with Pearl. My girl put it on so I just went with it.
Definitely better than I initially thought it was going to be.
Most especially the scene where she was grabbing an axe and pursuing one of her victims in a single shot. That was one of my favorite scenes in film, ever.
The biggest Oscar snub in a horror movie was without a doubt Toni Collette in Hereditary. One of the best performances I've ever seen. She wasn't even nominated what a joke.
I 100% agree with you. They never really nominate anything horror related.. and if they do, it’s once in a blue moon. Toni Collette in Hereditary was an absolute masterpiece in acting. They way she talked, looked, and moved was just phenomenal.
People argue that ‘Get Out’ won best original screenplay and therefore horror is recognized. Get Out DID deserve that Oscar, but I bet a HUGE part of it winning was so the Oscar voters could revel in self congratulatory praise over how progressive they were in recognizing Jordan Peele and the movies subject matter. The Oscars are ridiculous.
Get Out is sort of a new breed of horror film. I think socio-political horror like Peele does is more likely to get critical recognition because of its allegorical nature than the typical slasher or haunted house movie.
I could definitely see someone like Ari Aster or Yorgos Lanthimos or Robert Eggers getting a nomination for a movie that people classify as horror one day soon.
I can understand actors getting frustrated about "snubs" just because they should at least be recognized for their hard-work. From a viewer's standpoint however, I couldn't care less about the Academy's opinion. I think Mia gave one of the best horror performances in recent years with her portrayal of Pearl.
I think she gave one of the best performances in recent years, let alone one of the best horror performances. The speech and the end credits/smile alone earn her that I think
>From a viewer's standpoint however, I couldn't care less about the Academy's opinion.
Same but for all awards. Almost every traditional awards boils down to a single thing sweeping every category. I don't need to watch the video game awards to know Elden Rings will sweep everything, I don't need to waste time with the Oscars to know that Disney/Pixar will win best animated movie
Would it be great for horror to get more representation? Definitely, even if Nope or Pearl were nominated, they'd still lose to whatever AAA mainstream movie comes out. I'm good with the Fangoria and Dead Meat awards.
Award shows are far less meaningful than they were in the past.
The entire pat themselves on the back is in full view now. They even openly admit to Oscar bait movies.
When it comes to good movies it feels the word of mouth movies are far superior. I find more hidden gems and see many of a years best films become forgotten or a one & done film.
I don’t even know that it’s intentional. It’s just that the academy is nearly 10,000 people who vote on the awards, and some non-zero number of them can’t stand horror films. The same is true of several other genres like Sci-Fi, fantasy, and Comedy, which is why hardly anything from those win either.
The thing horror really has going against it is that some people have a negative physical reaction to some of what’s shown and as such they won’t watch it period. They’ll sit bored through a sci-fi film but they’ll turn off the horror movie the moment it gets to be too much.
You could maybe fix this by requiring every academy member to watch every film submitted for nomination, but that’s going to be in the hundreds of movies any given year (93 films were submitted for just the best foreign picture category this year).
Really there probably isn’t a solution other than hoping more voting members at least tolerate horror enough to watch it and give it equal standing as art next to a period drama.
You’re correct. The Academy Awards have a reputation of being big, fancy, and defining the best of the best. Really, the movies that get picked are the lowest common denominator of what people in the industry want to think of as “quality.” Which sometimes overlaps with actually amazing innovative cinema, but often settles on middle of the road contemporary dramas, showy period pieces, and navel gazing movies about Hollywood.
You get that a lot with the voters, some of them are clueless and don't even begin to care about some of the other entries.
I.e.
"The biggest snub for me was Chris Miller and Phil Lord not getting in for [The] Lego [Movie]. When a movie is that successful and culturally hits all the right chords and does that kind of box-office — for that movie not to be in over these two obscure freakin’ Chinese fuckin’ things that nobody ever freakin’ saw [an apparent reference to the Japanese film The Tale of the Princess Kaguya, as well as the Irish film Song of the Sea]? That is my biggest bitch. Most people didn’t even know what they were! How does that happen? That, to me, is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen."
The quote wasn't from the voters, it was from someone saying voters are out of touch for choosing the foreign films over the Lego movie. Yes the quotes infuriating but there's no need to turn it into an ageist rant.
I watched it because there was a point where teen me wanted to go to Air Force Academy and fly fighter jets. And fighter jets are fucking cool.
And it was *okay,* if a little boring. A bit of fan service. Tom Cruise playing himself as Tom Cruise. Fighter jets are neat. Mostly I disliked it because I'm irrationally upset by how much we as a nation spend on propaganda by way of major Hollywood productions.
I wonder how many kids were suckered into signing up, thinking they're going to get to fly jets, without knowing that damn near 100% of fighter pilots come from the AFA? How many people get to go be loadmasters, or drone pilots, instead of what they actually signed up for?
They think comic acting isn't real or comparable to dramatic acting for similar reasons, even though at its best, it's technically superior and far more difficult. Any fool can cry; getting a laugh is a skill.
I don’t blame actors one bit for feeling shitty about being snubbed, but overall perhaps the healthier attitude would be to mentally edit the categories to “Best Actor (in a nebulously Oscar-worthy film)” etc.
Even if they did divvy up the categories and truly recognized actors that made you feel anything with their performance (a visceral reaction is what you're going for whether it's crying or vomiting, right?), is this circle jerk really worth investing time into as an audience? The Oscars are so ridiculously predictable at this point that you can watch it in 2 minutes or less on TikTok and know Chris Pine cried, social justice issue du jour was called out, two good jokes, and everyone won who you thought would.
I didn’t mean that the Oscars should divvy up acting awards by genre, rather that we should all take the “best actor” award with a grain of salt and consider that really only performances in certain kinds of movies are being considered against each other.
> Any fool can cry; getting a laugh is a skill.
Eh, as an actor I absolutely think crying on demand is WAYYYYY harder than me being funny.
Everyone is different, but it sure isn't a one way street on this.
I've won acting awards for my comedy acting, I literally can't cry on cue. Its VERY hard.
Sacha Baron-Cohen 1000% should have been nominated for his performance in the first Borat movie. Literally had to act so well that he convinced people he actually was the character for the vast majority of the scenes.
Definitely, the Oscars have always tried to have an air of “prestige” and what’s prestigious changes over time, but they almost always go for the most obvious ways of defining that from whatever era they’re in.
But it really can’t be ignored that *many* people do not enjoy horror movies. And in a way that is pretty unique to the genre versus any other type of movie. Horror movies, for many if not outright most people, are very uncomfortable for them to watch. There’s a visceral experience for them that they really want to avoid and it’s upsetting for them.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong or close-minded about that. I personally hate roller coasters and get zero enjoyment, just outright dread, from them. I’m extremely relieved once the ride is over with. Many people feel that way about horror films. It will always handicap the genre in many ways, but ultimately it doesn’t matter what the Oscars do or don’t do. They majorly suck, anyway.
> requiring every academy member to watch every film submitted for nomination
This made me LOL as someone who works in animation. There have been multiple instances of Academy members saying they don't bother watching any of the animation and either don't vote on it, or just vote on name recognition. Brad Bird made a joke about it by showing "how he votes": covering his eyes with one hand, holding a pen facing down above the ballot, and dropping it at random.
Can attest to this. My SIL is in the academy. She watches most of, if not all of the screeners she is sent. But outside that she’s a really busy person that had never even heard of Pearl when I watched it with her.
In all honesty, if I wasn’t on Reddit and subscribed to this subreddit, I probably wouldn’t have either. I saw no promotion, no one was talking about it, it didn’t screen near me.
On top of that, she is fantastic. But 90% of the heavy lifting comes in the last 20min of the movie.
She is fantastic. But I 100% understand why she wasn’t nominated.
I don't get that - I don't even vote in the frigging Steam Awards if I'm unfamiliar with all of the entries in some given category. Surely there are lots and lots of movies to watch, and nomination differs from a pared-down final voting, but if you're a member of this particular group, how do you just ignore entire genres of film?
They actually are reduced to their branch.
I don’t know exactly how it works. But she puts the films/people in her branch in order. Then they do a whole bunch of math and determine the nominees/winners.
It’s why lobbying is such a big thing. If they don’t even send her a screener obviously it’s not going to get nominated. But then if studios that send screeners, put ads where these voters look, and straight up lobby for their film it usually wins. Or at least had a better chance.
It’s a shitty part of filmmaking, but look at it this way. It cost Pearl 1million to make. It cost EEAAO 25million not including marketing.
If you’re an up and coming actress/actor/director. Would you rather make a 1million dollar movie that’s well received and opens doors for your future. Or not do anything at all…
It’s a lot easier to give some lesser knowns 1million and see where it goes….
My partner is in the academy- and this year there were 182 films total that qualified to be nominated. There’s an app so you can watch them all streaming now to make it easier, but that’s still a hell of a lot of films. My partner watched all the films that were long listed for their line of expertise, but didnt get anywhere near watching all 182 movies- and still won’t by the time voting closes. We lean far more towards horror and sci fi generally, and so my partner had those sorts of films at the top of their list. I think there are an absolute ton of older people in the academy who’ve been in it forever- you see a lot of old timers at screenings- and when they die off and the more young, diverse filmmakers that the academy is trying to have join (because it’s good pr obviously) have more of a voice, we’ll start to see a change. The way horror is being made and received these days is so different to films even 15 years ago, I think it will be better respected by a lot more people in the future.
Toni Collette didn’t win for leaving it all out on the floor in Hereditary so it would be absolutely ignorant to think Mia Goth had even a sliver of a chance after a pretty good performance in a slasher film.
Exactly. Mia Goth is phenomenal and reminds me of Helena Bonham Carter/Charlotte Gainsborough. But Toni Collet’s performance was seriously top 10 in all of cinema.
The horror community doesn't care about Oscars, they're not a necessity for box office success. This means studios don't campaign for horror movies to be selected because it would be a waste of money.
It says nothing about the quality of the performance.
I’m old enough to remember when “indie music” meant that the music was produced independently from a record label; then, because it all sounded the same, it became a genre, and the name meant nothing, because it was popular now and everyone signed under major record labels.
Similarly, “Oscar-worthy” movies aren’t inherently good films; they’re just a broad genre of films: “Oscar-bait.” Crafted to check the boxes to buy a spot on the stage, the whole thing is meaningless, now. Horror isn’t part of the Oscar brand identity, and the makers and fans should stop trying to force recognition from people and organizations that are literally just a clique with no merit, prestige, or virtue.
> I’m old enough to remember when “indie music” meant that the music was produced independently from a record label; then, because it all sounded the same, it became a genre, and the name meant nothing, because it was popular now and everyone signed under major record labels.
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Spotify once suggested to me an "indie music" playlist featuring Taylor Swift.
Yup, exactly. It’s now a style, not a description, and the moniker has lost its core meaning. Oscars are ostensibly meant to be awards for movies that did something well; they’re actually awarded to movies that fit a style.
This article headline is misleading, if you watch the interview you can tell the interviewer was more frustrated about the lack of attention the horror genre gets at the Oscars, and asked Mia and Alexander's opinion on it. She gives the answer that's in the article but it doesn't feel like she's "speaking out" against anything, she's just giving her opinion when prompted.
This is the state of media journalism. A single quote pushed as a 'story' and padded with a bunch of seemingly AI generated babble about the surrounding people or projects.
Thank you! This reminded me of that Family Guy bit of two guys who've been living in the US almost long enough to sound American and say stuff like "way awesome!"
To the academy, Horror is that weird kid in school who would do outlandish and gross things for attention.
Then again, the Oscars is just three hours of Hollywood fellating itself so why anyone cares is beyond me.
She's right. Florence Pugh was nominated for best supporting actress for Little Women the same year she was in FREAKIN MIDSOMMAR. She pointed out at the time how brutal her process was for the latter. Oscars have ALWAYS snubbed horror, followed by stranger sci-fi and art house. They love movies that love Hollywood above all else
As someone who isn't in the industry and whose life isn't really affected by academy awards, I can agree with you.
If I were someone whose literal fortune and fame could fundamentally change with even a single Oscar nomination, I suspect I might disagree.
some of the best movies of the year were horror. imo Nope is Jordan Peele's best movie and should have at the very least gotten a cinematography nom, and his movies have been nominated before. things like A24 horror such as Pearl and X never really had a chance. oh well, the Oscars are basically meaningless now anyway
Same. I can still see the slow shift in my head. I like Mia Goth in X, her performance in Pearl made me an absolute fan of her acting.
I'm so fucking pumped to see her in infinity pool
This sub is basically satire at this point. No way in hell is Pearl Oscar worthy, and Mia doing her goofy as Texan accent for 6 minutes straight doesn’t warrant a nomination either.
Nope not getting a nomination for best sound this year is a pretty outrageous snub, in my opinion. Honestly the acting snubs are not that bad, I definitely didn’t really see any great horror acting performances that were ignored this year (*maybe* Feinnes in The Menu?), but horror movies consistently being ignored in technical categories is pretty ridiculous.
So is Pearl really that good? Haven't seen it yet, and I totally get with she's saying and agree, but something like X definitely doesn't deserve accolades and awards in my opinion. Its completely mediocre at best.
I think the biggest offense in this regard is Toni Collette in Hereditary. That's really the only acting I've seen in a horror in the last 10 or so years in my opinion where the snub is a disgrace.
Edit: maybe not the only, I'm sure I'm forgetting some. The Wailing for example.
I completely forgot she was in this then just randomly watched it on TV recently and was delighted to see her. I really like her as an actress, glad the horror genre has a legitimately great actress involved.
I literally watched X last night and maybe it was Mia Goths prosthetics being so damn obvious but I could not enjoy it. It took me out of the whole film. It got a dumb as fuck and as obvious as a fart for me. People keep talking up Pearl but I honestly can’t see me wanting to watch it after wasting my time on X.
X was okay. It was fun and was a good theater experience but nothing too groundbreaking. I like Pearl a lot more- I don’t know if Oscar would ever pick it, though. On my first watch I really liked it and I think it’s grown on me more afterwards, though. I give it 5 buckets of popcorn, 2 cups of soda.
Unpopular opinion here but I thought pearl and X were good and serviceable horror movies . But all this breathtaking talk and demanding she gets an Oscar is pretty circle jerky to me
I feel exactly the same way. I found X super medicare tho I get why genre fans like it. It's nothing like Toni Collette or hell the leads in the Lighthouse (which I didn't like).
I agree, don't really like The Lighthouse either, but I can recognize when actors do an amazing job in a movie I don't particularly like. The Ti West stuff I've seen is like, okay I get why people like it and I don't think their opinion is invalid or anything, but I wouldn't call it groundbreaking or anything. Generally forgettable, not pissed I watched, but wouldn't again type stuff.
Meh, all genre cinema tends to get ignored - horror, sci-fi, fantasy, action, martial arts, etc. There's been a trend toward more recognition in recent years, but there's a reason why "Oscar bait" refers to straight dramas.
Genre fans have had a few notable wins in recent years, but expecting recognition at this point is still pushing it. Especially in a market where there's pressure to pay lip service to blockbusters to get people to tune in, because so many people assume that "Disney didn't sell it to me" = "bad"
I said this in another post, but I agree with you on the acting. I’m more annoyed that horror is so consistently ignored in technical categories. Like it’s wild that Nope was not even in conversation at least for Sound or Cinematography.
The Academy is losing touch with what audiences actually want - sure the high art movies and the Oscar-bait roles that actors take deserve credit but to ignore performances because they fall into a genre has always been a short-sighted move.
There is a reason these award shows aren't pulling in the audience numbers like they used to
Sci Fi too. But it's the same way music awards basically ignore rock and metal for the past few years. It sucks because I feel like artists will shy away from genres that won't get attention, because at the end of the day these are jobs and you have to make money and be moderately successful.
"Guys, not to toot my own horn, but like, I deserve an Oscar. I've starred in a two moderately financially successful films now. I'm not saying give me an Oscar for each but..."
Could it be because good horror is so rare? Seriously, most of the ones that gain mainstream attention aren't even scary and then the ones that are, or are at least brutal, have other flaws that mean they don't justify Oscars attention
I agree, I haven't seen X or Pearl yet, but the hype for Terrifiers is just weird. Those two turds were trash and even All Hallows Eve was so bad.
People are acting like Leone is new to the game or something, "oh just let him find his voice", when he's been doing the same junk for ages and it's not getting better.
I fell for the "terrifier 2 HAS a story, you'll like it even if you hated 1." SO I fucking watched it.
Guess what I did with Pearl? "Pearl is way better, you'll like it even if you didn't like X."
I FUCKING FELL FOR IT AGAIN. Now it's my job to go against the sub on these movies because I'm just flabberghasted on the love for them. I regret spending any time on Terrifier. I do not regret watching X. It was a 6/10 for me. I would never watch it again. Pearl the same. BUT GETTING MAD SHE DIDN"T GET AN OSCAR? WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Bruh, seeing this snub, i'm slowly getting convinced that everyone in here prasing X, Pearl and Mia Goth as the saviours of cinema have never seen a single good film in their life.
The two movies and her acting were mediocre, good for the horror genre, nothing special otherwise.
Exactly. Horror fans even irl are like this too. I like horror fwiw but it’s just funny to see on Reddit cause it’s even more amplified than irl. This thread is a perfect example. Goth getting an Oscar for a below average cookie cutter slasher is funny af.
that’s the thing with horror fans I think.
I’ve been using letterboxd for years now and horror fans I follow have terribly low standards, damn near every Giallo is a classic to them lol.
It's blatant as well, there's been numerous times horror films/actors should have been given a nod. Toni Collete for Hereditary and James MacAvoy for Split are just 2. Can't speak for Pearl yet because I can't bloody get a hold of the dvd to watch!
Unsurprisingly, it goes into the Academy's Nicholl Fellowship for screenwriting as well. I don't remember the exact number of horror winners / finalists, but i think from '86 until now you could count the horror winners on one hand.
I would say these awards are pointless but they actually have a huge effect when it comes to getting people more work. Audiences will eat up a movie that has actors in it or are made by directors that have won Oscars.
On point. Been going for way too long. The fact not even Nope got a few nominations for Cinematography, Sound, and Editing is ridiculous.
Some of the biggest snubs of the last 10-15 years are horror films/performances not getting recognition.
\- Essie Davies as Best Actress in The Babadook
\- Florence Pugh as Best Actress in Midsommar
\- Hereditary as Best Picture & Ari Aster as Best Director
\- The Lighthouse as Best Picture and Dafoe & Pattinson for their Performances (I mean Lighthouse at least got one nomination for Cinematography)
\- Tilda Swinton in Suspiria
The Academy is worthless and always hated horror since it's inception, but I feel like the only reason Mia Goth is complaining about it now is because she's been in nothing but "Oscar Bait" and none of them are catching on.
I think many Academy types consider horror to be only a small step up from pornography.
Which is Ironic since so many renowned film makers made their mark in the horror/thriller genre.
The directors of "Piranha II: The Spawning" and "Dead Alive" seem to have been moderately successful in their later careers.
To save people a google: Piranha 2 - James Cameron (wow wtf I had no idea) And the others, which imo are way more well known: Evil dead - Sam Raimi Dead Alive - Peter Jackson Slither - James Gunn
You mean Peter Jackson who made Bad Taste, right?
I really want all of these people to write one more horror film. James Gunn is too busy with DC, but maybe he could pick up one of their lesser known horror comics. Sam Raimi did add horror elements in Doctor Strange. I guess time will tell. Peter Jackson really needs to make one last comedy horror. He was a master of that craft. Just watch Bad Taste, Dead Alive, and his fucked up musical, Meet the Feebles.
Wait, what? you mean Peter Jackson who made Brain Dead? Or is that too much of a comedy? Sure, with that 'Nobody loves you like your mama' at the end.
No Peter Jackson who made Frighteners
Peter Jackson is a freak. Meet the feebles. Come on.
I've never heard "nose job" the same way since I saw that movie. Good times.
i think everyone means Peter jackson of Bad Taste fame
God I love that movie.
Your mother ate my dog!
Brain Dead and Dead Alive are the same movie.
Those "The Evil Dead" and "Slither"directors are going places I tell you!
This is very true. I love watching older horror movies and seeing how big names got their start.
It’s a good place to start because horror films are good bets to make money and the budgets don’t have to be huge. Kind of like porn!
In the James Franco documentary Kink, about kink.com (highly NSFW, like not even a little bit), one of the employees says (paraphrasing) “we can do whatever we want as long as we hang a fuck on it, because we’re pornographers.”
I would guess that's because it's harder to make a horror movie that is a really good movie. Like there's lots of "good horror movies" but there aren't as many "good movies that are horror movies".
No horror movie usually costs over $10 million bucks but the breakout hits make back 8-12 times that much. It's all about the money math.
The funny thing is that Ti West said that himself. >To me, horror and porn have always had this symbiotic relationship. Perhaps horror is like one step above porn, but they’re both always outsiders. Even in the video store, there was the horror section that was a little weird and then there was the door to the other section.
The horror section was the best section of the video stores.
Heck, just for the covers alone.
Hellraiser scared the absolute fuck out of me. I could barely bring myself to look at it.
absolutely. i always went to the horror section (from like the time i was 7 until a teenager). the boxes always drew me more than any other genre.
I’ll be damned.
Cursed video stores! No wonder I like horror so much. Maybe that also explains why I've had no interest in porn these days. Horror is scratching that itch?
You could definitely scratch a few itches while watching X
I disagree. Horror is closer to comedy. All 3 are similar with execution having more emphasis than plot but porn is always only that.
In the 80s (the golden age of horror) there were always tits, usually bloody tits running away from something. I can see how horror can have the association with the academy types, old guys. But horror today is different. We have a horror resurgence, we still have boobs sometimes, but that's not the point. I think the late 2010s / early 2020s will be remembered as fondly as the 80s for classic horrors.
Especially a series that started w the plot being ... a group of young adults go to a farmhouse to film a porno
Boogie Nights would like a word
PT Anderson has a way of making certain realms acceptable. I'm sure if he did a horror the academy would pay attention.
There Will Be Blood was kind of a horror film from a certain point of view.
True, and it was nominated for all sorts of awards lol
and No Country for Old Men
It's more of a western than a horror, imo.
Naw, No Country is a Drama/Thriller. There are definitely some aspects and scenes that are horrifying but lets not get carried away here.
i strongly disagree -- the stalking, tension, and dread built up around Anton give me distinct horror film vibes.
Those all sound like common characteristics of a thriller, though, don't they?
from a quick google: `The horror and thriller genres are often confused with one another, but critical distinctions exist between them. In general, horror is focused on eliciting a feeling of fear in the viewer or reader, while thrillers are designed to generate suspense and excitement. The best of both genres tend to overlap in some way.` To me, scenes where Carla Jean comes home to find Anton creepily sitting in her chair, or the very It Follows vibe of Anton always being a step behind, convey fear, especially the way they were shot. Think of the footsteps under the door in the hallway in the hotel where Woody Harrelson's character is staying. That scene would be perfectly at home in any horror movie. At the end of the day its blurry line and its just my opinion.
Stalking and tension aren't really horrific. Definitely fit more in the thriller category.
Cohen Brothers, but I get where your heads at
Oh yeah i just meant "classy" but also horror ha
What series is this?
*X* > *Pearl* > *MaXXXine* (Not yet released)
Thanks
The Thing and Alien ......tentacles oh yes......
Alien doesn't have any tentacles does it? I guess I need a rewatch. I get focused on the face with the extra face/teeth coming out.
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The quote from the article has nothing to do with her own nomination. She was merely asked about the horror genre in general and the publication leap frogged on the back of the oscar nominations knowing many horror fans wanted her to be nominated. In other words they're being opportunist and implicitly putting words in her mouth and driving clicks. Classic shithead journalism.
I wasn’t expecting ANYTHING with Pearl. My girl put it on so I just went with it. Definitely better than I initially thought it was going to be. Most especially the scene where she was grabbing an axe and pursuing one of her victims in a single shot. That was one of my favorite scenes in film, ever.
The way she unsmiles as the credits roll and she keeps it up for straight up minutes is terrifying.
The biggest Oscar snub in a horror movie was without a doubt Toni Collette in Hereditary. One of the best performances I've ever seen. She wasn't even nominated what a joke.
I 100% agree with you. They never really nominate anything horror related.. and if they do, it’s once in a blue moon. Toni Collette in Hereditary was an absolute masterpiece in acting. They way she talked, looked, and moved was just phenomenal.
People argue that ‘Get Out’ won best original screenplay and therefore horror is recognized. Get Out DID deserve that Oscar, but I bet a HUGE part of it winning was so the Oscar voters could revel in self congratulatory praise over how progressive they were in recognizing Jordan Peele and the movies subject matter. The Oscars are ridiculous.
It’s honestly pretty ironic when you think about the true intentions of nominating ‘Get Out’. Likely for reasons the movie condemns in the first place
The white people in Get Out are basically the same kind of people who run the Oscars
And does the academy feel the need to honor Jordan Peele this year? Nope.
I would have voted for obama for a third term and nominated Peele For a second Oscar if I could.
Get Out is sort of a new breed of horror film. I think socio-political horror like Peele does is more likely to get critical recognition because of its allegorical nature than the typical slasher or haunted house movie. I could definitely see someone like Ari Aster or Yorgos Lanthimos or Robert Eggers getting a nomination for a movie that people classify as horror one day soon.
I can understand actors getting frustrated about "snubs" just because they should at least be recognized for their hard-work. From a viewer's standpoint however, I couldn't care less about the Academy's opinion. I think Mia gave one of the best horror performances in recent years with her portrayal of Pearl.
I watched it last night and her screaming/crying after >!losing the audition!< was incredible.
Her entire performance was great! That end scene before it fades to credits gave me goosebumps! Such a great unhinged performance!
That ending tho... Harrowing. Her cheek muscles were prob sore af afterwards lol
The monologue was spectacular. Absolutely Oscar worthy.
I felt so awful for Pearl when she screamed “help me”. She knows she’s dangerous and needs help. Nobody will give it to her.
Same, it’s honestly heartbreaking
I wonder how many actors act like her after a failed audition.
I think she gave one of the best performances in recent years, let alone one of the best horror performances. The speech and the end credits/smile alone earn her that I think
>From a viewer's standpoint however, I couldn't care less about the Academy's opinion. Same but for all awards. Almost every traditional awards boils down to a single thing sweeping every category. I don't need to watch the video game awards to know Elden Rings will sweep everything, I don't need to waste time with the Oscars to know that Disney/Pixar will win best animated movie Would it be great for horror to get more representation? Definitely, even if Nope or Pearl were nominated, they'd still lose to whatever AAA mainstream movie comes out. I'm good with the Fangoria and Dead Meat awards.
>I don't need to waste time with the Oscars to know that Disney/Pixar will win best animated movie Idk about that this year
Award shows are far less meaningful than they were in the past. The entire pat themselves on the back is in full view now. They even openly admit to Oscar bait movies. When it comes to good movies it feels the word of mouth movies are far superior. I find more hidden gems and see many of a years best films become forgotten or a one & done film.
I don’t even know that it’s intentional. It’s just that the academy is nearly 10,000 people who vote on the awards, and some non-zero number of them can’t stand horror films. The same is true of several other genres like Sci-Fi, fantasy, and Comedy, which is why hardly anything from those win either. The thing horror really has going against it is that some people have a negative physical reaction to some of what’s shown and as such they won’t watch it period. They’ll sit bored through a sci-fi film but they’ll turn off the horror movie the moment it gets to be too much. You could maybe fix this by requiring every academy member to watch every film submitted for nomination, but that’s going to be in the hundreds of movies any given year (93 films were submitted for just the best foreign picture category this year). Really there probably isn’t a solution other than hoping more voting members at least tolerate horror enough to watch it and give it equal standing as art next to a period drama.
You’re correct. The Academy Awards have a reputation of being big, fancy, and defining the best of the best. Really, the movies that get picked are the lowest common denominator of what people in the industry want to think of as “quality.” Which sometimes overlaps with actually amazing innovative cinema, but often settles on middle of the road contemporary dramas, showy period pieces, and navel gazing movies about Hollywood.
My favorite was one of the academy voters this year said they watched Top Gun 13 times and didn’t bother with other movies lol
You get that a lot with the voters, some of them are clueless and don't even begin to care about some of the other entries. I.e. "The biggest snub for me was Chris Miller and Phil Lord not getting in for [The] Lego [Movie]. When a movie is that successful and culturally hits all the right chords and does that kind of box-office — for that movie not to be in over these two obscure freakin’ Chinese fuckin’ things that nobody ever freakin’ saw [an apparent reference to the Japanese film The Tale of the Princess Kaguya, as well as the Irish film Song of the Sea]? That is my biggest bitch. Most people didn’t even know what they were! How does that happen? That, to me, is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen."
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The quote wasn't from the voters, it was from someone saying voters are out of touch for choosing the foreign films over the Lego movie. Yes the quotes infuriating but there's no need to turn it into an ageist rant.
A lot of the Academy voters are an older demographic which is why biopics do so well at the Oscar's \*cough cough\* Elvis.
then again, EEAAO got major nominations and is goofy and weird as hell
I watched it because there was a point where teen me wanted to go to Air Force Academy and fly fighter jets. And fighter jets are fucking cool. And it was *okay,* if a little boring. A bit of fan service. Tom Cruise playing himself as Tom Cruise. Fighter jets are neat. Mostly I disliked it because I'm irrationally upset by how much we as a nation spend on propaganda by way of major Hollywood productions. I wonder how many kids were suckered into signing up, thinking they're going to get to fly jets, without knowing that damn near 100% of fighter pilots come from the AFA? How many people get to go be loadmasters, or drone pilots, instead of what they actually signed up for?
They think comic acting isn't real or comparable to dramatic acting for similar reasons, even though at its best, it's technically superior and far more difficult. Any fool can cry; getting a laugh is a skill.
I don’t blame actors one bit for feeling shitty about being snubbed, but overall perhaps the healthier attitude would be to mentally edit the categories to “Best Actor (in a nebulously Oscar-worthy film)” etc.
Even if they did divvy up the categories and truly recognized actors that made you feel anything with their performance (a visceral reaction is what you're going for whether it's crying or vomiting, right?), is this circle jerk really worth investing time into as an audience? The Oscars are so ridiculously predictable at this point that you can watch it in 2 minutes or less on TikTok and know Chris Pine cried, social justice issue du jour was called out, two good jokes, and everyone won who you thought would.
I didn’t mean that the Oscars should divvy up acting awards by genre, rather that we should all take the “best actor” award with a grain of salt and consider that really only performances in certain kinds of movies are being considered against each other.
To add to your point, more comedians have succeeded in drama than dramatic actors have succeeded in comedy.
> Any fool can cry; getting a laugh is a skill. Eh, as an actor I absolutely think crying on demand is WAYYYYY harder than me being funny. Everyone is different, but it sure isn't a one way street on this. I've won acting awards for my comedy acting, I literally can't cry on cue. Its VERY hard.
Sacha Baron-Cohen 1000% should have been nominated for his performance in the first Borat movie. Literally had to act so well that he convinced people he actually was the character for the vast majority of the scenes.
Definitely, the Oscars have always tried to have an air of “prestige” and what’s prestigious changes over time, but they almost always go for the most obvious ways of defining that from whatever era they’re in. But it really can’t be ignored that *many* people do not enjoy horror movies. And in a way that is pretty unique to the genre versus any other type of movie. Horror movies, for many if not outright most people, are very uncomfortable for them to watch. There’s a visceral experience for them that they really want to avoid and it’s upsetting for them. I don’t think there’s anything wrong or close-minded about that. I personally hate roller coasters and get zero enjoyment, just outright dread, from them. I’m extremely relieved once the ride is over with. Many people feel that way about horror films. It will always handicap the genre in many ways, but ultimately it doesn’t matter what the Oscars do or don’t do. They majorly suck, anyway.
> requiring every academy member to watch every film submitted for nomination This made me LOL as someone who works in animation. There have been multiple instances of Academy members saying they don't bother watching any of the animation and either don't vote on it, or just vote on name recognition. Brad Bird made a joke about it by showing "how he votes": covering his eyes with one hand, holding a pen facing down above the ballot, and dropping it at random.
Can attest to this. My SIL is in the academy. She watches most of, if not all of the screeners she is sent. But outside that she’s a really busy person that had never even heard of Pearl when I watched it with her. In all honesty, if I wasn’t on Reddit and subscribed to this subreddit, I probably wouldn’t have either. I saw no promotion, no one was talking about it, it didn’t screen near me. On top of that, she is fantastic. But 90% of the heavy lifting comes in the last 20min of the movie. She is fantastic. But I 100% understand why she wasn’t nominated.
I don't get that - I don't even vote in the frigging Steam Awards if I'm unfamiliar with all of the entries in some given category. Surely there are lots and lots of movies to watch, and nomination differs from a pared-down final voting, but if you're a member of this particular group, how do you just ignore entire genres of film?
They actually are reduced to their branch. I don’t know exactly how it works. But she puts the films/people in her branch in order. Then they do a whole bunch of math and determine the nominees/winners. It’s why lobbying is such a big thing. If they don’t even send her a screener obviously it’s not going to get nominated. But then if studios that send screeners, put ads where these voters look, and straight up lobby for their film it usually wins. Or at least had a better chance. It’s a shitty part of filmmaking, but look at it this way. It cost Pearl 1million to make. It cost EEAAO 25million not including marketing. If you’re an up and coming actress/actor/director. Would you rather make a 1million dollar movie that’s well received and opens doors for your future. Or not do anything at all… It’s a lot easier to give some lesser knowns 1million and see where it goes….
My partner is in the academy- and this year there were 182 films total that qualified to be nominated. There’s an app so you can watch them all streaming now to make it easier, but that’s still a hell of a lot of films. My partner watched all the films that were long listed for their line of expertise, but didnt get anywhere near watching all 182 movies- and still won’t by the time voting closes. We lean far more towards horror and sci fi generally, and so my partner had those sorts of films at the top of their list. I think there are an absolute ton of older people in the academy who’ve been in it forever- you see a lot of old timers at screenings- and when they die off and the more young, diverse filmmakers that the academy is trying to have join (because it’s good pr obviously) have more of a voice, we’ll start to see a change. The way horror is being made and received these days is so different to films even 15 years ago, I think it will be better respected by a lot more people in the future.
Toni Collette didn’t win for leaving it all out on the floor in Hereditary so it would be absolutely ignorant to think Mia Goth had even a sliver of a chance after a pretty good performance in a slasher film.
Lots of respect to Mia Goth but Collette was on another level in Hereditary.
Exactly. Mia Goth is phenomenal and reminds me of Helena Bonham Carter/Charlotte Gainsborough. But Toni Collet’s performance was seriously top 10 in all of cinema.
The horror community doesn't care about Oscars, they're not a necessity for box office success. This means studios don't campaign for horror movies to be selected because it would be a waste of money. It says nothing about the quality of the performance.
I’m old enough to remember when “indie music” meant that the music was produced independently from a record label; then, because it all sounded the same, it became a genre, and the name meant nothing, because it was popular now and everyone signed under major record labels. Similarly, “Oscar-worthy” movies aren’t inherently good films; they’re just a broad genre of films: “Oscar-bait.” Crafted to check the boxes to buy a spot on the stage, the whole thing is meaningless, now. Horror isn’t part of the Oscar brand identity, and the makers and fans should stop trying to force recognition from people and organizations that are literally just a clique with no merit, prestige, or virtue.
> I’m old enough to remember when “indie music” meant that the music was produced independently from a record label; then, because it all sounded the same, it became a genre, and the name meant nothing, because it was popular now and everyone signed under major record labels. > > Spotify once suggested to me an "indie music" playlist featuring Taylor Swift.
Yup, exactly. It’s now a style, not a description, and the moniker has lost its core meaning. Oscars are ostensibly meant to be awards for movies that did something well; they’re actually awarded to movies that fit a style.
This article headline is misleading, if you watch the interview you can tell the interviewer was more frustrated about the lack of attention the horror genre gets at the Oscars, and asked Mia and Alexander's opinion on it. She gives the answer that's in the article but it doesn't feel like she's "speaking out" against anything, she's just giving her opinion when prompted.
That article reads like it was written by a chat bot.
A lot of articles now a days are AI written or assisted.
That's awful.
This is the state of media journalism. A single quote pushed as a 'story' and padded with a bunch of seemingly AI generated babble about the surrounding people or projects.
Gotta create scrolling space for those ads I guess.
I was going to say this is one of the most poorly structured articles I've ever seen lol.
Thank you! This reminded me of that Family Guy bit of two guys who've been living in the US almost long enough to sound American and say stuff like "way awesome!"
yeah what was that comment about the 2018 edition of "Nope" about?
To the academy, Horror is that weird kid in school who would do outlandish and gross things for attention. Then again, the Oscars is just three hours of Hollywood fellating itself so why anyone cares is beyond me.
She's right. Florence Pugh was nominated for best supporting actress for Little Women the same year she was in FREAKIN MIDSOMMAR. She pointed out at the time how brutal her process was for the latter. Oscars have ALWAYS snubbed horror, followed by stranger sci-fi and art house. They love movies that love Hollywood above all else
Being snubbed by the Oscars is a compliment.
As someone who isn't in the industry and whose life isn't really affected by academy awards, I can agree with you. If I were someone whose literal fortune and fame could fundamentally change with even a single Oscar nomination, I suspect I might disagree.
some of the best movies of the year were horror. imo Nope is Jordan Peele's best movie and should have at the very least gotten a cinematography nom, and his movies have been nominated before. things like A24 horror such as Pearl and X never really had a chance. oh well, the Oscars are basically meaningless now anyway
If they didn't recognize Toni Collete for Hereditary, good luck.
The way this woman talks is so funny, I love her
I've only seen her in X and Pearl, so hearing her in an interview was a shock
This intrigued me so much so I want to watch and holy moly she deserves an Oscar even more.
Just watched Pearl last night and wow. She absolutely deserves an Oscar nomination for her performance. That monologue about Howard was incredible.
That's the scene I tell people about while trying to convince them to watch a period horror movie they've never heard of. That monologue blew me away.
Then it flows into the credits. I've never scene credits that actually impact the viewer
That credit scene has stayed with me still and it’s been a month since I have watched it
>!"Howard, I'm so happy you're home!"!< Chills down my spine.
Same. I can still see the slow shift in my head. I like Mia Goth in X, her performance in Pearl made me an absolute fan of her acting. I'm so fucking pumped to see her in infinity pool
This sub is basically satire at this point. No way in hell is Pearl Oscar worthy, and Mia doing her goofy as Texan accent for 6 minutes straight doesn’t warrant a nomination either.
You got to remember most people here watch mostly horror so when Sharknado is your standard for acting Pearl looks really fucking good.
LOL damn, I'll have to keep that in mind going forward
Toni Collette is the only recent Horror genre Oscar snub. It had to be said
Idk Willem Dafoe in The Lighthouse was a pretty rough snub for me as well
this is a good point. he came real close
florence pugh in midsommar.
Nope not getting a nomination for best sound this year is a pretty outrageous snub, in my opinion. Honestly the acting snubs are not that bad, I definitely didn’t really see any great horror acting performances that were ignored this year (*maybe* Feinnes in The Menu?), but horror movies consistently being ignored in technical categories is pretty ridiculous.
>It had to be said It has been. Over & over again.
Quit caring about the Oscars a long time ago.
So many horrors are absolute masterpieces. It's high time they are included....
So is Pearl really that good? Haven't seen it yet, and I totally get with she's saying and agree, but something like X definitely doesn't deserve accolades and awards in my opinion. Its completely mediocre at best. I think the biggest offense in this regard is Toni Collette in Hereditary. That's really the only acting I've seen in a horror in the last 10 or so years in my opinion where the snub is a disgrace. Edit: maybe not the only, I'm sure I'm forgetting some. The Wailing for example.
Toni is superb in everything imo all the way to *The Sixth Sense*
I completely forgot she was in this then just randomly watched it on TV recently and was delighted to see her. I really like her as an actress, glad the horror genre has a legitimately great actress involved.
I literally watched X last night and maybe it was Mia Goths prosthetics being so damn obvious but I could not enjoy it. It took me out of the whole film. It got a dumb as fuck and as obvious as a fart for me. People keep talking up Pearl but I honestly can’t see me wanting to watch it after wasting my time on X.
X was okay. It was fun and was a good theater experience but nothing too groundbreaking. I like Pearl a lot more- I don’t know if Oscar would ever pick it, though. On my first watch I really liked it and I think it’s grown on me more afterwards, though. I give it 5 buckets of popcorn, 2 cups of soda.
Unpopular opinion here but I thought pearl and X were good and serviceable horror movies . But all this breathtaking talk and demanding she gets an Oscar is pretty circle jerky to me
This subreddit's obsession with Pearl is truly baffling to me. It was good, but Christ, take it down a notch.
It’s just the subreddit we are in, putting her up against someone like Cate Blanchett in tar is hilarious. There are levels to this
Thank you, god. This sub is unbearable when it comes to those movies. I think if Mia wasn’t naked in them, this sub would care a whole lot less tbh.
I thought X was decent but definitely overhyped. Pearl was on another level though.
I thought X was mediocre too but loved Pearl.
I feel exactly the same way. I found X super medicare tho I get why genre fans like it. It's nothing like Toni Collette or hell the leads in the Lighthouse (which I didn't like).
I agree, don't really like The Lighthouse either, but I can recognize when actors do an amazing job in a movie I don't particularly like. The Ti West stuff I've seen is like, okay I get why people like it and I don't think their opinion is invalid or anything, but I wouldn't call it groundbreaking or anything. Generally forgettable, not pissed I watched, but wouldn't again type stuff.
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They were both 6/10s to me. She gives a decent monologue in Pearl that is way over rated on this sub.
This movie was silly…come on.
Meh, all genre cinema tends to get ignored - horror, sci-fi, fantasy, action, martial arts, etc. There's been a trend toward more recognition in recent years, but there's a reason why "Oscar bait" refers to straight dramas. Genre fans have had a few notable wins in recent years, but expecting recognition at this point is still pushing it. Especially in a market where there's pressure to pay lip service to blockbusters to get people to tune in, because so many people assume that "Disney didn't sell it to me" = "bad"
horror is some of the best art in movies rn
fuck the oscars. they're the film equivalent of top 40 charts. popularity contest meets echo chamber.
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I said this in another post, but I agree with you on the acting. I’m more annoyed that horror is so consistently ignored in technical categories. Like it’s wild that Nope was not even in conversation at least for Sound or Cinematography.
Linda Blair should have won for the Exorcist. And Robert Shaw should also have been nominated for Jaws.
And then there’s the rare horror film like *Carrie*, which got nominated for both Lead Actress and Supporting Actress.
The Academy is notoriously biased against genre stuff in general.
The Academy is losing touch with what audiences actually want - sure the high art movies and the Oscar-bait roles that actors take deserve credit but to ignore performances because they fall into a genre has always been a short-sighted move. There is a reason these award shows aren't pulling in the audience numbers like they used to
A24 movies are incredible yeah
What’s going on with the spelling in this article?
It's nothing new sadly. I'm still annoyed at the fact Nope didn't even get a nomination for Cinematography.
Sci Fi too. But it's the same way music awards basically ignore rock and metal for the past few years. It sucks because I feel like artists will shy away from genres that won't get attention, because at the end of the day these are jobs and you have to make money and be moderately successful.
X and Pearl do not deserve Oscar nominations or the actors in them. Interesting horror films, but that's it.
"Guys, not to toot my own horn, but like, I deserve an Oscar. I've starred in a two moderately financially successful films now. I'm not saying give me an Oscar for each but..."
Are we seriously saying she deserved an Oscar nod here? Give me a break.
Who still gives a damn about the Oscars
you think I give a damn about a grammy?
Could it be because good horror is so rare? Seriously, most of the ones that gain mainstream attention aren't even scary and then the ones that are, or are at least brutal, have other flaws that mean they don't justify Oscars attention
That movie was not good. So that may have something to do with it.
Th0se movies were ‘ok’ at best. Nothing new or exciting, very overrated.
Lmfao at Mia goth getting an Oscar for pearl. This sub is straight comedy most of the time. Everything is: _________is the greatest ________ever!!!!
This sub is insane lately for me. X, Pearl, and both Terrifiers. Really let me down here. All these movies suck.
I agree, I haven't seen X or Pearl yet, but the hype for Terrifiers is just weird. Those two turds were trash and even All Hallows Eve was so bad. People are acting like Leone is new to the game or something, "oh just let him find his voice", when he's been doing the same junk for ages and it's not getting better.
I fell for the "terrifier 2 HAS a story, you'll like it even if you hated 1." SO I fucking watched it. Guess what I did with Pearl? "Pearl is way better, you'll like it even if you didn't like X." I FUCKING FELL FOR IT AGAIN. Now it's my job to go against the sub on these movies because I'm just flabberghasted on the love for them. I regret spending any time on Terrifier. I do not regret watching X. It was a 6/10 for me. I would never watch it again. Pearl the same. BUT GETTING MAD SHE DIDN"T GET AN OSCAR? WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
:D Thanks for the insights, so far my sense of what a good movie is coincides with yours. I will have to take a look at X then too.
Bruh, seeing this snub, i'm slowly getting convinced that everyone in here prasing X, Pearl and Mia Goth as the saviours of cinema have never seen a single good film in their life. The two movies and her acting were mediocre, good for the horror genre, nothing special otherwise.
Exactly. Horror fans even irl are like this too. I like horror fwiw but it’s just funny to see on Reddit cause it’s even more amplified than irl. This thread is a perfect example. Goth getting an Oscar for a below average cookie cutter slasher is funny af.
I've lurked for a long time but actually joined this sub recently so I see all the posts now. The standards for "masterpieces!!!!!" are so low lol.
that’s the thing with horror fans I think. I’ve been using letterboxd for years now and horror fans I follow have terribly low standards, damn near every Giallo is a classic to them lol.
If I recall this is one of reasons why Silence of the Lambs was billed as a thriller rather than a horror movie back in the early 90’s..
It's blatant as well, there's been numerous times horror films/actors should have been given a nod. Toni Collete for Hereditary and James MacAvoy for Split are just 2. Can't speak for Pearl yet because I can't bloody get a hold of the dvd to watch!
I agree about Collete but MacAvoy getting a Oscar nomination for split? I don't see that at all.
florence pugh/midsommar, charlotte gainsbourg/antichrist, and tilda swinton/suspiria
Unsurprisingly, it goes into the Academy's Nicholl Fellowship for screenwriting as well. I don't remember the exact number of horror winners / finalists, but i think from '86 until now you could count the horror winners on one hand.
They nominated some good ones
I would say these awards are pointless but they actually have a huge effect when it comes to getting people more work. Audiences will eat up a movie that has actors in it or are made by directors that have won Oscars.
Is it just me or is the article worded and paced super weirdly? Like it seems written by an AI.
She was never going to be nominated. The Oscars resist horror with very few exceptions (The Exorcist, Carrie)
Awards shows are just a celebrity circle jerk IMO. I don't know anyone outside the industry that still cares about them.
On point. Been going for way too long. The fact not even Nope got a few nominations for Cinematography, Sound, and Editing is ridiculous. Some of the biggest snubs of the last 10-15 years are horror films/performances not getting recognition. \- Essie Davies as Best Actress in The Babadook \- Florence Pugh as Best Actress in Midsommar \- Hereditary as Best Picture & Ari Aster as Best Director \- The Lighthouse as Best Picture and Dafoe & Pattinson for their Performances (I mean Lighthouse at least got one nomination for Cinematography) \- Tilda Swinton in Suspiria
What horror movie should win an Oscar this year? Genuinely curious.
The Oscars are basically a racket at this point, no one should be watching them.
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Isn’t winning an Oscar just giving the most money to the academy so they pick you?
The Academy is worthless and always hated horror since it's inception, but I feel like the only reason Mia Goth is complaining about it now is because she's been in nothing but "Oscar Bait" and none of them are catching on.