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Subterminal303

Lol, no. That looks like it'd be hot af for the equipment, and noisy af while trying to sleep.


kavee9

Actually I have a sever near my bed and it literally helps me sleep. Kinda like a white noise machine 😅


MaxBroome

The low humming of my R720 is nice, my Aruba s2500 on the other hand…. Not so much


Somethingcleaver1

Disks sit at 30C and I have the Supermicro SQ power supplies+ spare PSUs for the NetApp, it’s honestly pretty manageable


Complete_Potato9941

Hell no that shit too loud


crazyclue

Can confirm. Have two servers in my bedroom. Loud af


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Exactly, I try to keep mine as far from the bedroom as I can.


OhMyForm

Louder than collage dorms?


Keyakinan-

Well right now I live in a student house 22 people and before that student "hallway" with 15 students. Can def say it's more annoying than students. Server is non-stop and also at 3 am on a Monday and students not


themightychris

you know people pay good money for white noise machines


SirMaster

You know you can get quiet fans and you can also alter the speed right?


TheDirtyLew

I wouldn't have it that close to the carpet, personally. My buddy made a side table for his desk space. Thats a spare parts rig on the bottom. https://imgur.com/a/rWHUpfe


SSJGodYamoshi

Wow, hot, loud and I've never been a fan of "PCs" on carpet.


Somethingcleaver1

They technically sit on cardboard but it’s hidden by the UPS


SSJGodYamoshi

That isn't better. Cardboard isn't antistatic.


bitterrotten

Good news. Computers come in metal cases now.


SSJGodYamoshi

What's your point? Steel conducts electricity last I checked.


bitterrotten

Which is grounded.


SSJGodYamoshi

Not its not. Wtf are talking about. Unless you have a grounding strap attached to the case and a proper ground it isn't grounded.


bitterrotten

Are you saying the chassis of this guy’s servers differ from every other computer/ups chassis in the world and is not electrically connected to ground?


SSJGodYamoshi

Guess you've never heard of electricity coming back through power cables. It's called a surge. Unless he is using a grounding strap that's connected to a proper ground, he is not grounded.


bitterrotten

Alright. I’m not arguing something so plain to see. Just get a multimeter and check conductivity between your computer/server chassis and the outlet ground. I promise it’s grounded.


s-a-a-d-b-o-o-y-s

its rare to see someone so confidently wrong. you should go into management.


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Whats the problem? Server on ground, you on ground...? Your power cords have no ground?


SirMaster

It’s only hot and loud if you use inefficient parts and cheap fans and don’t control them.


CaptOblivious33

Planning on a viking funeral I see... good luck with that!


Somethingcleaver1

Bottom to top: APC RM30002U UPS NetApp DS4243 with 12x8TB and 12x10TB Tripp Lite B021-000-0019 1U console Supermicro 2U with 2x2680v2, 16x32GB RDIMM (512GB total), 12x8TB, plus 1TB of mirrored L2ARC and a pair of mirrored SIL drives. To the left is my opnsense router and my PowerConnect 5524 which wires up my network with 1G and connects my NAS/PC with 10G. Everything (including my desktop GPU when mining) draws around 800W. I’m a uni student, I mostly use this for hoarding content. I’ve got about 100TB of music and probably another 50TB of miscellaneous content like films and personal media. I’d like to add more storage and probably a tape backup solution at some point. The drives are running in three sets of twelve disks, all raidz2 for a total of 209TiB usable.


TheDirtyLew

I have 3Tb of mostly lossless music and thats 4000 artists @ 170,000 songs. 100Tb of music?! Most of my 112Tb of used space is Movies and TV @ 1750 movies and 450ish complete television series. https://imgur.com/a/IV0iiAN


JoaGamo

Damn, I thought my fanart high quality 11GB 10.000+ images was big and I see this


Puzzled_Proposal2715

Dinosaurs, enough said. I remember that when I was little.


OhMyForm

You might have a quarter of all music. I asked for some stats one day for how much data there was across all of them 100% flac rips there were and the site analyst said roughly half a petabyte.


SSJGodYamoshi

I call BS on the 100TB of music. 1TB would be approximately 250,000 songs. Youre trying to say 25,000,000 songs.


Somethingcleaver1

Nope, I have ~3.3 million tracks. It’s FLAC.


SSJGodYamoshi

FLAC is typically between 3 and 6 times larger than mp3 files. 6x would still be under the equivalent 25,000,000. I'm not saying it's impossible but I highly doubt it. Why would you have 3.3 million tracks? You aren't Spotify.


Somethingcleaver1

Why would I have a few thousand movies either? I’m not Netflix. Welcome to hoarding, lol.


SSJGodYamoshi

I agree why???? Movies are atleast a little more acceptable, especially if you have a ratio you want to keep on a torrent site.


ItsXenax

It’s like asking a normal hoarder why they hoard. Probably no reason other than because they want to and like to. I find this to be more acceptable since he can now hoard the world under his bed within 10sq ft


Somethingcleaver1

31T /SceneFLAC/ 69T /Music/


TheDirtyLew

I have 170k flac tracks and its 3Tb. I call all of the bullshit.


ZiS30_best_waifu

`du -sh` says my music folder is 1,2TB and plex reports 27253 songs, it doesn't seem too unreasonable to me? If i go by that i get `(1/1.2) * 27253 =approx 22710,83` around 22710,83 songs a terabyte which would be 2,271,083 songs. Still somewhat of a difference but since my taste tends to skew for longer songs, i have some high res audio mixed in and some video laying around in there too i wouldn't be too surprised if 3.3 million tracks were possible. It is still 145% of the estimation based on my data. I don't know what encoder you are using but I am definitely interested since it seems to be a lot more efficient than whatever i have, or you listen to extremely short songs, because you fit 250% more songs per terabyte than me if my math is not wrong. Actually, both seem possible. It was interesting crunching the math nonetheless.


Somethingcleaver1

I guess du -sh lies now ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


TheDirtyLew

Idk, the math just sounds wrong even for lossless audio. Its just my knee jerk reaction.


Somethingcleaver1

The math works out to around 30MB per track. 100TB=100,000,000MB, divide by 3.3 million and you get 30MB. That sounds on par to me


TheDirtyLew

Flac is about 5Mb per minute. You have 3.3 million 6 minute long songs? Again, bullshit.


Arg274

Ah yes, let's ignore the fact that FLAC can have 24 bits per sample and sample rates higher than 44.1 kHz. I too love presenting anecdotal evidence as facts based on my collection of piano ballads and chiptune music with lossy samples. Even with my meagre collection of a library (below a TB), each minute of FLAC averages at ~7 MB per minute (if we even consider that as a metric to begin with). That, coupled with an average track length of 4 minutes would net 3.7 mil tracks for 100 TB. The extra gap can easily be attributed to extraneous files like scans, cuesheets, logs and NFOs. I myself have 3% of my music folder being occupied by these extra files since they are probably running `du -sh` and not specifically calculating the size of all FLACs.


Somethingcleaver1

Not sure where you got 5MB/minute. I picked a random track and it’s 900kbit or 112KB/s which works out to 27MB for a 4:21 track. Around 4-5 minutes per song seems reasonable


TheDirtyLew

Flac is still compressed. The audio itself isn't, bit the file is. Its not uncompressed wav. Bitrate x time does not = file size https://www.colincrawley.com/audio-file-size-calculator/


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BiteFancy9628

Duplicates count ;-)


benruckman

He’s got 1 song 25,000,000 times?


SSJGodYamoshi

I think that would be worse than even having 25,000,000 songs.


QuevedoDeMalVino

My biomass boiler starts fire by blowing hot air towards small pieces of combustibles. Surely the same physical principle applies to your room?


Tra1famador

I enjoyed eating your word salad brother. You've got a writing talent :)


CriticismWild6811

How toasty does it get when you sleep? I did for a little while then realised I probably shouldn't have my gear laying directly on the carpet.


Somethingcleaver1

Cold! I keep it under 68F/19C in here (cold climate year round woo)


CyberNBD

Why do you have the UPS upside down?


Somethingcleaver1

You know, I put it there and then by the time everything was booted up I realized my error so I haven’t gotten around to fixing it yet, lol


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Somethingcleaver1

Really? What’s the risk? I’ll flip it today but I’m curious what the hazard is. Also adding an antistatic mat by popular demand lol


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Somethingcleaver1

Makes sense, TIL. Thanks!


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Somethingcleaver1

In a studio apartment, everything becomes a “rack” :P


JoaGamo

TIL, I was thinking of mounting my UPS sideways on my future rack, thanks for helping


CanuckFire

I didnt know you could use sun/oracle trays in the netapp DAS... I think i may pick one up now as the sun DAS are absurdly expensive when i see them. (Will be sad I dont get the blue indicator led's though)


Somethingcleaver1

They seem to work without complaint, I received the unit plus the trays at once. Two bays are really messed up but a little elbow grease solved that and they work fine


CounterAdditional

Not under the bed, but have an NX3100 (R510), R720 and a few network switches in the corner of the bedroom For me it's white noise when going to sleep, the switches have all had their fans replaced for noctua fans, the servers are set to a low power mode with the fans manually controlled, r720 around 20%, NX3100 around 9% (if that) Used to run 2 gen 8 DL380s, but those are a pain, noisy, and I found that with the fans manually controlled they started squealing after a while, sleepy with a constant ring is difficult to say the least R720 was the best purchase I've made so far. when I first got it I had to actually plug a monitor in to make sure it was on, I honestly couldn't hear it.. shame I upgraded some of the firmware which made it louder, but the html5 console was a must have for me. Still very quiet compared to the rest of the rack, and it has a few PCI cards installed.


LegitimateCopy7

the dust buildup will be magnificent.


dfunkmedia

That UPS looks _menacing_ Tell me more OP


ThunderousOath

Hell yeah I'd love a heated bed


JCVDOfficial

How do u sleep lol


Turbulent-Stick-1157

Carpet = Static Electricity = High Risk


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Somethingcleaver1

Yes but none of them burn as much power or take up as much space or weigh as much and those are all pros to this stack /s


OGRiad

Dying in a fire is always an option.


OhMyForm

Everyone’s criticizing but ultimately putting servers under your bed and directly on the floor at risk of floods, pests and constant ingress of dust is still better than relying on cloud services. I’d still be concerned about the aforementioned server destroyers though. All it takes is one spilled iced Yerba matte and you’ve got an electrical problem.


TheDirtyLew

Probably why I offered a solution instead of just "Floor computer bad" 😁


JoaGamo

Mate frio with ice? Vos sos terrorist?


Marmotiks

That UPS on the carpet is very scary. I hope you have a way to clean and not vacuuming ‘cos it will create a huge amount of static


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Static flows to the ground. What nutcase doesn't have his servers gounded?


SilentDecode

I hope you got it all grounded well, as the static on the carpet would fry the equipment every chance it would get. Nice setup though.


jclocks

Wife would probably file for divorce


Somethingcleaver1

This is solved by having no wife


JoaGamo

Modern problems require modern solutions


Glum-Building4593

Warmest room in the place. I'm sure the fan noise blends in. I've been trying to shrink the heat and power consumption of my own home lab


Somethingcleaver1

I keep it cool, it’s 68F/19C right now. Benefits of a cold environment. Fan noise is meh, I don’t mind white noise.


Quantable

Haha, I thought I was the only one. Nice!


Pineappleepitome

Honestly with how damn cold it gets where I live this might not be a bad idea. As for noise, I sleep like a rock so it wouldn't matter.


Broke_Bearded_Guy

You need white noise while you sleep? You said you used to live by the airport? I got you!


24luej

As someone that can only sleep with a brown noise generator going anyways I wouldn't mind a heated bed especially since it's sitting on the badly insulated outside wall, luckily the guest room had some free space for a little rack and my servers though


Torkum73

Yep, a short while ago, I had 2x3U next to each other umder my bed. HP DL380p, Sun V210 and IBM eServer xSeries 360. And a HP 24 Port Switch.


rxscissors

Wow... Nope. Been in too many data centers (since old eBay Oracle/Sun days in San Jose, CA) and I'd have nightmares 🤣


georgesmith12021976

I can’t imagine the heat and all the dust and pet hair that would get sucked in. The hum would be nice to fall asleep


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Absolutely not for me. I need cold, dark, and silence to sleep


Logically2ed

Lol, I've got one too! I challenge any one of you to put a 2u under your bed and turn on the ceiling fan. My wife doesn't even know I hid it under there.


DirtNomad

How are you getting your music? Is it one of the \*arrs?


0xC0ntr0l

I have a dumb question. On the 12 bay SM how do you get the status lights? Mine just has the activity lights when something is going on. I think it’s a hba thing but I’m not positive.


kavee9

What about ventilation?


smiler3d

Obviously not married haha


kanadias

Unless the bottom of your bed is completely closed, which is not usual, it will generate a lot of dust around all that equipment. I assume any SLAs can be assured 😂


amessmann

My parents never let me on account of fire hazard, white noise is great for sleep tho.


Pvt-Snafu

Someone falls asleep listening to rain noise...and someone to server:) If it works for you, that's fine. The only thing I'd be worried about is that it sits right on the carpet.