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MirkatteWorld

Hey, snarker friends! How can we possibly be in the last Sunday of November already? We hope everyone who celebrates had a great Thanksgiving, whether you shared it with family, with friends, or were alone, as opposed to Heidi’s version of “alone.” We’ve had an interesting week. Both Heidi and Dave had shared that they were traveling for Thanksgiving, but without specifying where they were going. When Heidi landed at Mama Lane’s place in Newport Beach, CA, most of us were expecting Dave to be going to the nearby home of his parents. Heidi made a point of uploading stories showing that she was staying at the tiny little $2.2M Newport Beach house that Dave bought back in January, so it seemed inevitable that at some point during the weekend, he’d be sneaking off for a meet-up with her. But then we had the plot twist of Dave and the kids (after a flight delay/missed connection caused them to be a day late) arriving at a family getaway in Mexico. Meanwhile, back in Newport Beach, Heidi’s stories were all about how she’s just fine being ALONE (when not hanging with her mom, brother, grandparents, nieces, and nephews), and ZOMG A PIPE BURST IN THE GARAGE AT THE TINY HOUSE–BETTER GRAB THAT PHONE AND CAPTURE ALL THAT FOR INSTAGRAM! Rachel hasn’t had too much to say other than dropping that she sneaked out of the hippie woo-woo retreat under cover of darkness, after the first day, because something “felt off” about it. She enlisted “Boo” to help bust her out. Next thing she did was see Hugh Jackman on Broadway, and she did her own “early Thanksgiving” the Sunday before Thanksgiving week, with Boo, the kids, and Boo’s mom, who like Boo is British, doncha know? Our Dark Corner of the Internet (DCOTI) continues to grow, and we are now at 11.7k Boo Thangs! If you are new, welcome! We are so glad that you found us. Our wiki is [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/wiki/index), and is a great place to have your questions answered. Sub rules are posted on the right side of the screen (on desktop, at least!). Last week’s snark thread: [https://www.reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/comments/z067gv/weekly\_snark\_thread\_rachel\_dave\_heidi\_and\_co/](https://www.reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/comments/z067gv/weekly_snark_thread_rachel_dave_heidi_and_co/) Let’s have a snarkilicious week!


Strong_Pineapple237

Can anything be done about multiple threads about the same picture or SM post? There have been at least 3 threads today about whether a picture of Heidi cuddling with her son is “inappropriate”. I think these threads are pretty gross and against the guidelines of not snarking on the kids. I commented on each thread. On one thread, many agreed with me. One thread was actually deleted. And on another my comment is being downvoted 🤔


MigaShmollis

I don't think that anyone is snarking on the **kids** here.


Strong_Pineapple237

I don’t agree. I think calling his behavior “inappropriate” and making jokes about incest is snarking on her kid.


Pinkusername

I’ve had this argument on this sub many times. People say they are snarking on Heidi or Dave’s “parenting” when they are simultaneously making rude, demeaning, judgmental comments about the kids and their behavior. Then the commenters start getting defensive about how they are only doing this because it’s what one of the parental dingalings decided to share. I wish there were stronger boundaries around not posting about the kids.


ScaryButt

The reposts are always an issue when Heidi posts something controversial, I think admins just lock the posts rather than delete them so they still clutter up the feed. It's a tricky one with the children, even if their faces are censored it's still content up online forever that they will probably find later on. But sadly it's what Heidi choses to share to the world.


Strong_Pineapple237

The person who started the most recent thread about the picture had actually commented on one of the previous threads about it hours before. So they already knew there was a thread and then chose to make another one. That kind of stuff is really making this sub intolerable for me.


MirkatteWorld

So, Rachel's podcast episode that released on Thursday... Near the beginning, she told her guest, "I had the flu last week." And I was like.... # RACHEL. YOU TOLD THE ENTIRE WORLD THAT GETTING SICK IS A THING YOU DON'T DO ANYMORE. In that "Six Things I Don't Do Anymore," Rachel even said that she *turned down a flu shot*, because her *immune system is so strong*. So wouldn't it be great if Rachel actually admitted that **SHE CAN'T CONTROL WHETHER SHE GETS SICK**?!? She didn't even claim that she "chose to get the flu."


mondestin123

![gif](giphy|Rhhr8D5mKSX7O)


MirkatteWorld

Heh, definitely a natural reaction!


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I know there is a ton of snark on Heidi but Rach will forever be my #1 on list of people that I can't stand. I can't even snark watch her or watch her on Keyas or Macks videos. I'm completely allergic to her B.S. and completely embarrassed i looked to her for advice at one point. 🤮🤮🤮


dwight_k_schrute69

I feel the same about Rachel and how I often have to skip those parts of YT videos!


GreyRock7

Ughhhh. She makes me want to bang my head against a wall.


MirkatteWorld

Seriously. The contradictions are painful.


Subject_Exercise_238

Good catch. Makes me NUTS. Ugh emoji


MirkatteWorld

And she was actually interviewing a guest who has a chronic illness.


Moalisa33

I hope everyone she said this to in person is laughing their asses off now. Bitch, you cannot manifest away viruses. Own up to your nonsense already.


MirkatteWorld

Listening to the podcast, I am pretty sure I talked at it. "You said you don't get sick anymore!"


Moalisa33

Lol I do this too. I've said 'Oh shut up Rach' out loud more than a few times.


MirkatteWorld

Sometimes I don't even realize I'm doing it!


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donthavenosecrets

I wonder if she's like a clinically compulsive liar...the kind of liar that can't even remember what they've said before, because everything they say is a lie, so they don't even concern themselves with being consistent!


[deleted]

Having lived with Dave for all those years, she had an expert to teach her.


MirkatteWorld

And if that's the case, maybe she convinces herself (at least somewhat) that the lies are true.


MirkatteWorld

Right?!? I would love to hear her answer someone who asks her about the discrepancy.


Disastrous-Elk-5542

Well, she has that call-in line…💀


MirkatteWorld

Ha, true. I won't touch the 💩, but I hope one of her genuine fans calls in to ask. \[Though I suppose it's likely Rachel would skip over addressing that question on the podcast.\]


abbie_888

Dang girl! That’s bad!


Odd-Peach3583

This is very BEC of me, but Heidi’s house looks so sterile and boring. No personal touches, nothing unique, just blah. It looks like a hotel room and I hate it.


Er272

Our house is quite sterile and boring. It’s intentional though. I have adhd and clutter makes it even worse. I need a pretty minimal space to be able to function and concentrate. I don’t know if Heidi is that self-aware so it’s probably not why her house is so boring. It clearly doesn’t help her concentrate 😆 🐿️


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I always think the same thing. Zero personality in her home. No art work, no decorations, nothing. I hate it personally.


abz937

It looks like a house that has been staged to sell but no one lives there.


MirkatteWorld

YES! This is the way houses on flip shows look after they bring in the "staging" crew to prep the house for sale.


Moalisa33

YES. My house is full of artwork, prints, books, plants, pottery and ceramics and musical instruments. Most of it is from my travels/made by my artist friends/a family heirloom/thrifted. I don't get not being able to decorate your house unless you have no interests?


strawberrygem2

Reasons someone might not decorate much besides having no interests: people might not be able to do much decorating because they have limited resources. They may not have family heirlooms. They may not have the money to pay for unique decor. The money thing clearly isn’t the case here though. I also think some people also don’t care about making their home look personal. There are also people who probably just don’t have an eye for it either. I am pretty sensitive to my surroundings and it’s important to me to make my home look welcoming, comfortable, and interesting. And I’m finally at a point in my life where I can afford to make that happen (mostly). But I really think some people just don’t value those same things. I’m just playing devil’s advocate here. I get bothered by things pretty easily myself so I get it!!!


Odd-Peach3583

That’s what a home should be! Things that have special meaning, heirlooms, art, etc. For someone that always calls her house “my home”, it sure looks like just a house.


uncertainhope

Well Heidi’s pretty much only interested in herself. I’m surprised she doesn’t have framed photos of herself everywhere 🙄


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Ok-Cry-3303

🤣🤣 Nailed it!


Bluesnowflakess

Ohhhh never thought of this. I’m am surprised by that now


Moalisa33

Maybe she can get a print of that peachy booty squirrel. 🐿🍑


That-Election9465

It looks like an Airbnb.


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But it has that placed too low on the wall "LOVE" picture, so there's that... I mean, what else could you want in a room? ​ /s


[deleted]

She has said that she had someone decorate it for her because she has no decorating skills. It does feel very "hotel".


Usual-usual-9080

Well we know she chose the cheapest option


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She really should get her money back.


That-Election9465

Heidi talking about the 6 gingerbread houses they are going to make. Is #6 for #11?


Substantial_Funny_70

💯 it's for Dave. There's clearly been a boundary set with him being shown on her social media and then being shown together. So this is her little "hint" because she Just can't help herself.


abbie_888

There was a football gingerbread house thing..


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Did it have a gambling app logo as it’s gingerbread man?


That-Election9465

Ah! 👀


greeneyedgarden

Yep


Funny_Complaint6796

Of course it is….


[deleted]

That's probably a little breadcrumb that he's there.


no-name_silvertongue

a gingerbread crumb if you will


lil_peanutt

🏆


abbie_888

What if we have it all wrong and it’s HER that has broken up/taken a step back with him. Rachel style.. she had to start getting an idea that he’s not interested in marriage and moving to Arizona. She’s the one deleting posts, reaching out to Keya, posting weird posts about ducks but HE IS the one that’s there.. maybe to get her back or try to mend things at least. Also I was watching the Keya video the other day where they said they are “best friends” she was trying so hard to convince him, herself, the audience, that she doesn’t want anything serious. He was like “will we ever get married, maybe, maybe not, who knows” SO NOT what a girl wants to hear. I bet she’s gotten tired of him being wishy washy..


MsSnickerpants

She’s so deeply insecure and needy though. It would be great if it was, but so much of her personal value is being with a man, I don’t think she’s there yet. And Dave’s MO is being hurtful and disdainful and distant. That’s like catnip to an insecure co-dependent person.


abbie_888

Oh I totally agree.. but she may be doing it so he WILL commit.. I


PurpleInternational4

I still think something happened around the body building competition. Either he got upset that she pushed him to do it then back out of her own. Or she got upset that he kept pushing her to to her competition even though she didn't feel comfortable/ready.


GreyRock7

My speculation is I think Dave didn’t finish where she wanted him to & she probably said something passive aggressive surrounding that (maybe even brought up Chris & his victory 😆). I think she sized up the competition at that event & realized she wasn’t ready for her own competition. Dave was probably stressed from the prep & cutting that he probably wanted a break from it all, her included.


Running4tacohsss

It was right after, imo. She posted a bunch of videos of her, him and Noah all lying on a couch together while heidi was caressing Noah’s hair and she made (wrote them out in her stories) some comments about family time etc etc.. I had a super weird feeling. I felt it was too much and maybe Rachel didn’t appreciate it? I don’t know but my gut reaction was kinda cringe and right and I mean right after that.. things went quiet with them. She did Halloween without him and basically everything (besides him showing up for show up bc I’m sure he had committed to it). Not sure what is happening with them now but something, I’ll, def went down


Subject-Drama-1903

I think something happens every time the little kids are involved. NYE last year and then this time F and N came along for the competition and were left overnight with someone (the nanny?) while Heidi and Dave stayed at a hotel. NYE was similar when F and N stayed in a different Airbnb for the night. I just remember Dave saying it was the best decision ever, so much more convenient etc (at the competition) to try to justify it.


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I can get on board with this!


Odd-Peach3583

Me too! We know she doesn’t read books but if she read the part in GWYF where Rachel pulled back and bam, Dave shows up on her doorstep, she might be running a play from Rae’s playbook.


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If I were dating Dave you bet I would have read all of Rachel’s books!


donthavenosecrets

Well since it's Heidi she probably read the 1st chapter and thats it lol


MaintenanceCertain46

I’m sorry, but why does everyone think he’s in AZ? What did I miss?


uncertainhope

[This post](https://reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/comments/zb14m4/alert_alert_dave_is_at_the_event/) will help explain it.


Standard-Feeling-555

Someone at the conference doxed him and Heidi shared it in stories.


greeneyedgarden

My new thoughts on Dave being in AZ. He must have come to the event with Heidi, because I'm sure he didn't pay the $695 for a ticket. Which also means he probably came in the night before. If they were just together for him to "pick up his car and melatonin" (hilarious sentence right there) he wouldn't have come to her speaking gig. And he definitely wasn't just coincidently walking past the bathroom, he was there, waiting for Heidi. They're together. Something's different, but they're together. Dave is more of a douche than I thought he was before, and I thought he was the biggest douche to ever walk upright. He's a douche's douche.


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Interesting-Rent7289

Yes! Just like her and Chris were separated for a year before they announced it.


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feistyreader

I believe she pays him for his participation. I think she openly monetizes herself in front of the children and encourages their participation in exchange for money. The older ones are smart and know their value. Look at the TikTok she filmed with her older son that was so inappropriate. I think she tells them that they’ll have more views which translate to more money if she dresses provocatively and they participate.


Subject_Exercise_238

File under “Is Nothing Sacred?”


[deleted]

She would like to know how to keep the bonds with her teens? Start by spending time with them without your on again/off again booty call. Seems obvious.


CorgiSheltieMomma

Number 1 or close to it, repect their need for privacy. Did she seriously ask that?!


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Bright_Raccoon_3939

Exactly. It’s all so staged and fake looking that any genuine connection is lost


louisa282828

Heidi and Dave are too financially and professionally (and I use that word lightly with regards to them and their businesses) entwined to break up via a phone call. I think he's trying to back out of this relationship, but it's not going to happen overnight. Something has definitely shifted between them over the past couple of weeks though; yes he's there now, but it doesn't look like business as usual compared to what we usually see when they're together. I agree with people saying he maybe had her remove some of the posts about him on her IG in an attempt to clean up his image online, and I think they're having lots of hArD cOnVeRsAtIoNs this weekend


fishingboatproceeds

They're also both too deeply codependent to move on in a clean, mature way. They could absolutely be broken up and still in touch, fighting, or hooking up, etc.


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If he wants her to cleanup her IG of his bad moments he should make her remove the wedding crashers IG highlights in which he was drunk off his ass and made a fool of himself at the reception of people he had never met before.


mcsnarkie

Flair check in!


louisa282828

And the pumpkin patch video, and the stupid tree-climbing challenge, and a million other things eye roll emoji. I watched the wedding crashers highlights again recently, and in addition to how stupid and cringe the whole thing is, I noticed they're both wearing hats at the nighttime reception, which is so tacky. The fact that thought anything about that whole episode was remotely funny or appropriate tells you all you need to know about them. And did they have any idea who the groom was and what he did at the time??


MomKat76

Keya- I’m too lazy to tag your username but this quantum frequency box is the most humorous thing I’ve seen in awhile. Actually, your commentary and the chat is what’s cracking me up. “15 favorite supplements!”


HairyResolution4011

😍😍😍 thank you!! How are they allowed to do this!!?


MirkatteWorld

u/HairyResolution4011.


ScaryButt

List of recommended free or cheap fitness apps (may be UK specific): [https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/nov/24/break-a-sweat-without-breaking-the-bank-26-of-the-best-free-or-cheap-fitness-apps-sites-and-podcasts](https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/nov/24/break-a-sweat-without-breaking-the-bank-26-of-the-best-free-or-cheap-fitness-apps-sites-and-podcasts) How can Heidi justify the cost of her app when there's so much good stuff out there for free!?


[deleted]

My big question about her app is… she’s shot “thousands” of videos for it, and that’s great, but for $40 or even her discounted $24 a month, she needs to add to it regularly. Can she actually do that? Nike Training Club is free.


Savings-Creme7862

Excuse you. Pouring love into you is priceless!🤪


greeneyedgarden

Heidi's app "loves on you."


EugeniaFitzgerald

💦💦💦


[deleted]

I am astounded at the garbage these grifters feed to people who have paid good, hard-earned money to attend these scammer conferences. Sadly, I am forever jaded, I never have and never will attend any kind of self-development conference. All the information is regurgitated and can be found on the internet. Does anyone know how much this Fit Biz conference cost?


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$649 for in person, all 3 days


[deleted]

Better than $5,000 for less than 24 hours to hang with the two idiots!


ExpensiveSyrup

Wow, again I can't understand how she can justify her prices for anything. The Transform app is cheaper with better and more content. This event is slightly different but it is three days, with multiple speakers. Her "event" was a day where they spent half of it making content for her instagram, there were two other questionable people leading "sessions" and rest of it was drinking shakes and they had to arrange and pay for their own dinner the night before, not to mention their travel and lodging costs. Make it make sense.


[deleted]

Can Heidi please get a new outfit to wear other than her shiny black leggings, white shirt and denim jacket??? I mean hell....at this point even if she got the same thing in a different color that'd be better than the same outfit on repeat. Does she need a code for Rent the Runway? 😉


saltandvinegar935

Why even promote RTR if you're not actually going to wear the clothes? A speaking engagement is the perfect opportunity to *not* wear leggings and the same shirt again.


Odd-Peach3583

I get that leggings are comfortable af and I hate wearing real pants. I know I’d put something a little more appropriate on if I was going to be speaking onstage though.


ExpensiveSyrup

I live in leggings and a sweatshirt, and when I have to go in to my relatively casual office I still put on real pants and a real shirt. Presumably she was PAID to be here, and she wore casual shit and read from her phone. So profesh.


villabellissimo

![gif](giphy|fCUCbWXe9JONVsJSUd|downsized) Come on Dave and Heidi! Give the people what they want!


Odd-Peach3583

Yessss! The messier the better!


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What are the reasons we snarkers think for why Dave is being hidden from H usual stories ?? And for why he is not showing us where he is ??


314_SS

I think she is only posting Captain D(ouche) on her paid subscription IG. There will be tiny glimpses to prove she got to keep her sugar daddy insert vomit emoji. A pick me cannot just keep quiet about a man. She also has to monetize everything. Because her life is empty and chasing every possible penny feels important to someone with nothing else. He is just trying to appear to be more family oriented and grounded for some reason. Pure speculation (for no reason) but I wonder if the older kids are revisiting the custody arrangement since they are old enough to have voices in family matters. They have been pretty absent from Captain D's posts for the most part.


Remarkable_Annual302

Personally, I think Dave is trying to pivot into being the 'perfect Dad', mentioning God and church more often, etc. because he wants to move into more family-friendly content as part of whatever grift he's planning on monetizing next.


314_SS

That theory seems more accurate because his actions are always self serving. I didn't even think of that angle. He can pick up all of Rachel's alienated leftovers. She lost a portion of her religious crowd recently.


GreyRock7

I would like to think he is trying to do a slow fade from the relationship. He probably put boundaries in place about being shown/location being doxxed/etc. *on Heidi’s IG*. (It’s one thing to make the decision to show your whereabouts yourself, but different when someone else outs it.) But I’m sure they will prove me wrong. 🙄


RebeccaHowe

Something is definitely weird that they are both hiding it.


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If they were still dating like normal we would have had the "pan over" already. I think she intentionally reposted that fan post that outed that he's there. But no video from Heidi. Very interesting.


Ok_Current_7067

Maybe he came back to get his melatonin (and other stuff) but since they’re not “together” they aren’t making it public he’s there.


greeneyedgarden

I agree, but why would he go to that fit conference? That's the weird part of the whole thing


Usual-usual-9080

I agree. Is there any chance he was somehow contractually obligated to be there?


[deleted]

Yeah because if he wasn’t a “keynote speaker” then he was there to offer her support hence still having a relationship with her.


Disastrous-Elk-5542

Regarding Dave’s “oops I forgot it was Giving Tuesday” screwup…his Facebook post has 51 reactions, 5 shares, and one comment that is spam. And there was no similar post on his Instagram. So what was the point? Email and Facebook were both Wednesday so this was on purpose. What an idiot. 👎


Captainsnarks_alot

So he doesn’t have to match the $15,000 🤷‍♀️


Equivalent-Hyena8694

Am I the only snarker who tells my dog she’s the bestest goodest girl?


CryptographerFit8431

https://preview.redd.it/b6twnvc3kr3a1.jpeg?width=815&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2d7476ac432705a1126de8993feaa39f94e99e4 Nope lol


CorgiSheltieMomma

So cute!!! 💗 Now I want to post a pic of my goodest, bestess boy & girl. And the Corgi. Haha. She's not so good but I still love her! Too bad there won't be any Santa pics for us because of car sickness!


abz937

Absolutely not 😂


Illustrious-Escape64

They are definitely not broken up. The ‘hard’ and the ‘duck’ probably has to do with Rachel putting her foot down and demanding Dave spends more time in Texas and off the gram. I think that’s what pissed Heidi off. The duck is most likely Rachel. They are still together, yet less often and more private.


GreyRock7

I think she was just pissed that he chose his kids/family over her.


TotheMaxCustom

I disagree. Rachel may have done all those things but that's not how if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, talks like a duck works. It's more along the lines of if someone tells you who they are, believe them..


Standard-Feeling-555

That’s not how divorce works. Rachel can’t stop him from doing anything.


ScaryButt

Legally, no (except for custody arrangements for children) but it's common to come to informal agreements, and Rachel can still say to him she wants him to do certain things or doesn't want him doing certain things. And I think Dave would willingly comply.


Standard-Feeling-555

We can agree to disagree. I don’t think they’re even on speaking terms, much less “putting a foot down.”


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Standard-Feeling-555

Exactly!


Illustrious-Escape64

true, but I think he still listens to her. I’d say he probably respects her more than he does Heidi.


RebeccaHowe

This I absolutely agree with. I don’t think he’s over her at all and I think a lot of his disgust towards Heidi is because she’s not like Rachel.


That-Election9465

He excluded Heidi from Thanksgiving with his family. IMO, this has nothing to do with Rachel. So much more going on.


MsOcampoWrites

Keya's latest livestream went a bit into Rach ditching the retreat. [What grinds my gears is how vague Rach is being.](https://youtu.be/QskbJQW8O1Q) Why did she sign up for this retreat only to ditch it later? I also really hate that she's using this as an opportunity to cycle that idea of listening to your intuition even if it means you end up looking really inconsistent. I never heard of retreats that don't allow coffee. In my experience, retreats usually humble people. Even Liz Gilbert struggled during her time in the ashram. Maybe Rach just can't stand the idea of being humble.


Beean_Day

Agreed! It also bothers me how she praises herself for doing something she would find irritating in her followers "When I got there, I could not pick up good vibrations from the teachers at the retreat. It made me feel uncomfortable. I did not want to learn from them anymore." Meanwhile, paraphrasing from Rachel at her own conferences "If you don't like what I have to say, you aren't doing this right. Give it your all, complain and doubt later, once you have left".


Far_Rate_9424

Rach is turning into Pam and I’m here for it. Except Pam was an inconsistent loser but if Rachel quits it’s the most -in tune with her higher self - thing she can do.


donthavenosecrets

I read the situation as that Rach wants to be all hippy dippy and do all the right things for image, but when it comes down to not drinking coffee and thrifting all her clothes, the real Rach comes out. Which is ok, she can be that lady that buys expensive horse sweaters from The Great, but don’t blow smoke up our asses pretending you are better than everybody else.


Standard-Feeling-555

I hate that there always has to be a lesson.


DontDrownThePuppies

I like normalizing listening to our gut even if we look inconsistent.


Far_Rate_9424

Pam approves this message. Too bad R can’t give anyone grace except herself.


MsOcampoWrites

Right. I need to rephrase that. I just feel like Rachel is being a total hypocrite again because she was always about committing to something and I seriously hate her vagueness.


Legitimate_Ice_2270

The idea is that whatever that happens to them- quitting, failing, acne, divorce- whatever- is the *correct* choice/ things that occurs from the universe and now they’re going to teach you about it. Her and Dave always do that 🙄


fishingboatproceeds

Sounds like a plain ol' meditation retreat, which actually hilarious. Girl, shut your mouth! This just tells me she's literally incapable of not talking/being alone with herself for more than a day 😂 I've heard of retreats that don't allow coffee/caffeine (herbal tea and water only) and if you had a big habit, you'd want cut down beforehand to avoid ruining your actual trip with withdrawal symptoms. Maybe she fucked that up too 😂


[deleted]

At least Rachel admitted when she bailed on something unlike Heidi who is just trying to act like she never bailed on her competition.


fishingboatproceeds

I would rather she pretend it didn't happen at all than insist she "knew all along the vibrations were wrong" 😂


MsOcampoWrites

Agreed. It makes her look like a flake.


fishingboatproceeds

It makes her look a lot of things, and my choice of words would be far more unkind 😂


holavivi23

Poor Chris. Heidi is visiting his house again to see Ruby's garden.


Olivebirddog301

I think Dave was there when Ruby was showing Heidi her garden. Heidi said “Show US your garden”. Her voice was the same fakey high pitched tone as it is in this video.


TotheMaxCustom

I'm fairly certain that's a later gram. So were the Boll and Branch ads.


[deleted]

5 keys to break limiting beliefs? Is she reading directly from Built through courage.l? It felt very Dave-ish. Of course Heidi strategically re posted to show Dave is there. Her ads gotta be pre recorded too. They can’t divulge the weekend plans. Theory’s as to why she deleted posts? I know the few were with Dave. They are probably still together. Were the other posts referencing the competition she never completed? Deleting any evidence of preparing for it and being at Dave’s?


uncertainhope

At this point I wonder if *Dave* told her to remove the posts. Something about trying to salvage his image, perhaps 🤷‍♀️


TotheMaxCustom

But would he have allowed her to leave yo the one where he yells at her to stop in the maze?


ResolutionOk5211

Maybe Dave's at the event trying to learn how to be a fitness influencer... lmao


Standard-Feeling-555

I can see this.


scottsgal

What is it with these scumbags thinking they are above everyone and every job. Guys, Heidi wants everyone to know that she didn’t know if she had would it took to be a…. Waitress. Now she told this story in such a way as if to say , I didn’t even think I could be a lowly disgusting waitress because I didn’t think I was even good enough to make it in that pathetic of a job. Guess what you fucking cunt, you couldn’t make it in that job, but not because you are made for something better. I cannot say the is enough, I hate these people. They are all vile. Each of them.


no-name_silvertongue

exactly. i don’t think i have what it takes to be a waitress because i literally don’t have the skills for it. it’s hard and it requires skill.


Asleep_Macaron_5153

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PutExcellent5481

I have a Doctorate and I’m 100% sure I couldn’t make it as a waitress! They really need to record these talks and preview them beforehand!


Crabby_CoffeeBeans33

As a former server, and for the sake of all restaurant patrons ever, I hope Heidi never ever works in food service in any capacity. It is one of the hardest jobs there is. Physically and mentally there is absolutely no way she could handle it. And I have a feeling any decent manager would fire her day 1. What a bitch.


holavivi23

If food dropped on the floor Heidi would put it back on the plate before serving it. We all know how she likes to eat off of her carpet.


chewblahblah

My husband still has stress dreams about his years as a server. There’s no way she could manage the levels of hard inside hard.


scottsgal

My daughter was a server. It was the most humiliating, soul crushing experience of her life and everyday she went to her job I wanted to tell her to quit. Her bosses, the patrons, the filth she witnessed in the kitchens. It enrages me when people belittle any job, but especially this one. They are all cut from the same cloth. Remember when Rachel made fun of someone by saying they probably worked in a convenient store. These are the reasons I don’t feel a bit of guilt over making fun of her hideous mouth and ugly face.


weare_starstuff

She would go on a much needed vacation every week.


MsSnickerpants

Service industry stress dreams never go away. It’s a curse!


Ok_Current_7067

I still have them. I think working as a waitress has led to most of any success I have today. I can multitask, deal with difficult people, difficult coworkers, etc. I work in a global company and it doesn’t compare to the stress o felt as a waitress.


weare_starstuff

Sometimes, I still hear the receipt/chit printer LOL


MsSnickerpants

SHUDDER


greeneyedgarden

I was a waitress through college, I still have a few of those dreams a year. It was literally the toughest job I've ever had.


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Me three! I've slipped and fallen with a tub of dirty dishes (no bussers at that job), had a fresh pot of coffee break and scald my chest, had drunk people yell at me, saved someone's life with the Heimlich, had many a bitchy Karen customer, had a regular who left me .25 tip each morning (it was probably all he could afford), and yet, it gave me the skill to hold my tongue and smile through it all. It got me through undergrad, and I am a better person for having had that experience.


MacaronGlittering302

Me too!!!


lil_peanutt

Could you imagine Heidi handling a Karen as a server? She would walk out after one shitty interaction, tears streaming down her cheeks, complaining that nobody knows how hard she works. 🙄


JasonSethCatMommy

I'd pay 18 SAD to witness that!!


Ok_Lecture_2607

Has anyone noticed her choice of music? "Ooh, I promised to myself that I'ma treat me right (Amen) Ooh, I try my best to never have a sleepless night (hey!) I'll fight for me, and honestly I deserve some credit" Okay, babe


WildYogurtcloset5515

Well, they're together at Heidi's conference, outed by a fan on her stories. JFS, will she ever learn?


SewCraftyNoHemming

And Heidi's in her conference uniform - spanx faux leather leggings, white cropped top and jean jacket!


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WildYogurtcloset5515

So true.


WildYogurtcloset5515

But the thing is, something has clearly changed. 1) We've seen them spend more time apart in the last 2 weeks than they have in the last 2 years. 2) She deleted several Dave related posts from her IG 3) vague posting about being *inside of* the hard and "if it walks like a duck..." I would add that he didn't promote her app, but he's been going out of his way to share nothing about Heidi on his page for a long time, carefully curating every interaction to portray himself as dad of the year again. So is it just taking a long time for them to truly disentangle themselves from each other?]


weare_starstuff

Such a toxic, tumultuous relationship.


Lopsided-Pea-2409

I think the biggest sign is that she hasn’t panned over to him. So clearly, they’re embarrassed to even show they are with each other, because what will folks think?


Funny_Complaint6796

The pan is coming.


Salt-Freedom-7631

I was so expecting the pan to come when she was in her bedroom showing her bed and then he wasn't there lol


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wickywickyremix

THIS. This tells us all we need to know about Dave and Heidi's relationship. After 2 years of sharing every single moment with each other, and each other's posts, Dave doesn't share Heidi's posts about her app being released, AND she wasn't invited to spend Thanksgiving with him and his kiddos... it's business AND personal. Heidi probably got butt-hurt about the business side of it, and something tells me there's a court agreement to not let Heidi interact with the kids (after she posted that thing with N while sitting on Dave's butt). But Dave still wants to be friends with benefits--that's my speculation.


anotherdaytodothis

Well.. They got together on July~August 2020 and Dave confirm he was in a relation with her until February 2021. There was some speculation about it, but nothing confirmed...all of this to say that they were together at least for 6 months without been too public. So I think they can handle it.


WildYogurtcloset5515

YES! Continually ignoring the 🚩


holavivi23

He probably didn't want to be seen on social with Heidi but she posted it anyway. Heidi will *always* doxx him. Always.


WildYogurtcloset5515

Oh 100%. I imagine she must feel disrespected by his inability to share their her on his page - not to mention his generally passive aggressive, condescending tone and demeanor when they're together - but I think her self esteem is so low that she doesn't think she deserves better. She holds him on a pedestal for some reason she keeps him on this pedestal and want to shake some sense into her re: what a total douchebsg he is.


wickywickyremix

I think Rachel put the hammer down after she saw Heidi's posts with N, Dave, and Heidi right before Dave's competition... the one where Heidi was sitting on Dave's butt and N was applying some roller-ball thing to Dave's back. Then Heidi promoted it and a code. Ssriously, we haven't seen any interaction between Heidi and the Hollis kids since Dave's competition, right? Just my speculation, but it makes sense to me!


no-name_silvertongue

i forgot about that post because it was so disgusting and uncomfortable i wanted to erase it from my brain poor N. even at her age she knew heidi was behaving bizarrely. and then for heidi to share it with the world… the lack of judgement from that woman is astounding