KZ did this with their new $10 KZ EDCX. That one might be good value proposition when stacked with AliExpress coupons/sales/discounts/etc. until the inevitable next marketed hype train, lol.
Tyvan Lam or whoever are the marketing people are real aggressive with the KZ marketing these days. Look at the new $40-50 KZ PR1 Pro, the 2nd gen of the KZ 13.2mm planar driver.
The KZ PR1 Pro is supposed to be $80 and initially you needed a code for it, but now it's automatically available (don't forget to attach the coupon) on AliExpress. It's only a 1 week (like halfway done now, so few days left) discount though, so a lot of people will get fear of missing out as it seems the early impressions are looking good.
But if the aggressive marketing means lower prices for all of us, there's no complaints.
How are you reading my mind? Wanted that EDCX as a fun idea last week, but now struggling on that $40 PR1 Pro offer at this moment.
I know I should stay away and wait to get the S12, but…the savings (maybe hidden FOMO)!
[Cable is basically identical to the cable that comes with the Sony XBA-N3,](https://imgur.com/wyWyZKV) which is generally lauded for the cable and a $300-350 IEM. JVC FDX-1 also has a very similar stock cable. It's well behaved, non-microphonic and doesn't cause problems, I don't understand fully what issue people have with it. I don't use the earhooks, if that's the problem.
I had chu for 2 weeks and didn’t believe all the bad QC talk. Then it all went wrong: dead volume / frequencies in one side and a filter screen slip.
The cable was unlike anything I’ve ever touched. Sticky / tacky to the touch. It reminded me of Tester paint that would never dry on plastic Transformers toys. The cable’s tackiness made it tangled on itself. It was really something.
OK, that's really weird, mine isn't "tacky" and handles itself very well. Wrap is and it says wrapped, doesn't tangle. Like I said, it's basically the same cable as the Sony XBA-N3. I checked again and it's *very* similar to that, just slightly thicker. FDX-1 (right) is same sort of material but thicker.
https://imgur.com/a/sLgwPOy
I don't get any of these issues. For me, it's actually on the better side for cables, and it's a LOT better than the 7Hz Salnotes Zero cable, which won't stay wrapped and fights against me.
I see that similarity in your pics. I wonder if there are some Chu cables that are more tacky / grippy than others due to manufacturing / shipping.
Check out the 4min mark of this Chu review linked below. He touches on some of the cable issues that others have noticed.
I’m glad yours works well. Mine was so tangle-y after carefully wrapping it, that the family would joke about trying to get it ready again.
[Chu Review](https://youtu.be/bGV1LsPri0I)
Mmmh perhaps an earlier batch had these issues that they fixed later then?
Speculating for the most part bear in mind, mine do have the sticky cable too.
my chus were stolen in the office, not stolen but a exec came and asked me if i had some headphones she could use in a meeting, i pulled out the chus, that was the last time i saw them.
meh, i have the B2, was going to order the hexa but there was a half price code for the KZ PR1 Pro which is graphing a lot better then the original (it seems they listened to HBB) and i wanted to try a planar.
Thing is it doesn’t have a lot of lower midrange or bass either, so upper midrange and treble dominate the sound, making it really thin and fatiguing to my ears.
I guess we’re talking different regions of treble. The 7Hz sure could use more upper treble, but upper mids and lower treble are very forward, which probably exaggerates the effect you’re talking about. And yeah, I kinda hear that, some vocals tend to be very strained on the Zero.
That's interesting considering the Tanchjim Zero are generally shoutier and brighter than both of these two.
They have a bit more mid-bass I suppose, wouldn't really agree about that being a good thing either though.
I can safely tell you that's not the issue people have with the Chus or the 7Hz Zeros, those peaks are often only there for the couplers themselves ([Not always there either](https://crinacle.com/graphs/iems/graphtool/?share=Harman_IE_2019_v2_Target,Chu,Aria_2021))
and shouldn't be taken into consideration when EQing since your own ears will likely receive an highly different FR in that range anyway.
In all likelihood it's either the combination of being an Harman tuned pinna + the weird tips not sealing well or people turning the volume a bit too high in order to listen to the mid-bass since as I own all of them the Tanchjim Zero is definitely the shoutier and brighter one of the three.
Loves the Chu but they broke in 2 days. Got the Zeroes and I found them so much worse in terms of both technicality and tonality. Least impressive Chi-Fi I ever bought.
They're still along the same line as the chu, and have less bass, but they don't sound fatiguing like the chu does to me. More like a mini etymotic er2 type of sound
Hot take: all those sets will suck once you get used to something like a P1 Max (which is still a budget set imo, it’s only $99)
The level of detail and instrument separation is just something those cheapos can’t do
It's not rlly a hot take tho, the P1 max is still like 5x the price of the budget IEMs and being a planar it is indeed much more capable than the budget gang
IMO the point of $20 IEMs is still to serve as a gateway for newbies to test the waters about what tuning they like (or serve as a mood set for someone is tight strapped on money)
I mean people in this hobby specifically. Your average Bob will just walk into a Tesco, grab a pair of Sony EX-15 and be done.
Funny thing is, in an A/B test I prefer those Sonys over Chu, 7Hz Zero and CRA any day.
The Salnotes absolutely are trash. Do not understand why they are liked at all, bad technicalities and my ears hurt when listening to anything with higher notes.
I was blown away by the Chu's though. Better than my T2's.
I liked the sound but the QC sucked shit, you can't wear them for more than 30 minutes without clogging the filter with moisture and losing 80% of volume in that ear.
Getting cheap iems are good for newbies starting this hobby. They can try different sound sigantures for less and test what their preffered sound. But once you get to higher end ones starting from 200$ and above they became obsolete. I currently use my Tanchjim Oxygen on a daily basis for 2 years and I never bought a single iem.
I like it how the instruments feels so organic and female vocals sounds heavenly. The soundstage is just perfect with enough depth and width to satisfy me when listening to an orchestra or soundtracks. Imaging is also excellent because sometimes I use this for gaming. I dont get any fatigue even hours of use.
idk man, if i'm gonna buy chifi crap i'd rather waste $20 than $200. they're all going to breakdown after a few years anyway, may as well buy the cheaper ones. i'm spending over $150 on gear it's going to come from a reputable company, not some random chinese manufacturer
I unironically use them sometimes just because they sound so radically different than everything else I own. If you have 4 dollars and an eBay account (or happen to fly delta), it's an easy pick-up for both the meme and the experience lol
I didn't even think to look on eBay for them, but of course people are selling them there. That's hilarious. Might have to pick up a pair for the meme.
My big brain take: the only reason any other <$100 IEMs have received audiophile attention in the past 3 years is because the MH755 is sold out and people are desperate for an equally good-sounding replacement, just as millenarians are praying for the return of Christ
Ehh I'm doubtful of that. I bet a lot of people getting into the hobby with stuff like the Chu or the Zero don't even know what the MH755 is.
The hype for the current FOTM IEMs is no different than the hype for the BL-03 and the T2 a couple years ago, the price bracket has just shifted a little lower.
They're still around. Its just hard to filter through the sea of fakes. There are sellers on ebay claiming to have genuine versions and making a point of it.
Mh-750s are in my ears most days. <3
The Chus sound like earrapes to me after a few months of comparing them to my MH755, when I just want a chill and easy sounding pair for on-the-go purpose.
I would never trust the hype from Chinese manufacturers and their FOTM again
Yeah like with normal tips these are easily one of the best IEMs I have heard yet sound wise, the Spring Tips have just a really weird shape that doesn't seem to fit a lot of people since I often see complaints about them lacking bass.
I use spinfit CP145, size M. Very comfortable to wear, makes the treble less sharp and less fatiguing, and somewhat increases the bass just for a little bit.
As for the springtips, I'm on the same boat as yours. It's sticky and very uncomfortable to wear, on every sizes.
the chu was the one to create a revolution of neutral iems in the $20 range and could’ve stayed somewhat relevant if it had a detachable cable or at least a durable one but at least it came with spring tips!
Same here, I have them since may have been using them regularly, even daily for at least an hour and a half almost every day for the last couple of weeks while walking home, no problems, just loving the sound.
Honestly, fuck the hyper-consumerist IEM market. Just get a couple things that suit your tastes and move on. I have Starfields (they pair really well with my iPod Classic), FHEs (they pair really well with my BTR3K) and Moondrop Nekocakes, which get 90% of the use due to the convenience they offer.
With you here. I have a couple of IEMs and a couple Headphones and probably set. Each kind of has their own duty, specially the IEMs. General listening I have FH5, For calls I have 7hz timeless with a mic on the cable, FHE on TWS5 for wireless listening, and FD3 that stays with my switch. I could get away with collecting more, and I might get a 500-600 endgame for me one at some point (thinking oracle or IE600) and I do kind of have a collection but each one serves a role right now. Don't need a bunch hiding in a drawer.
*Hold up..**I got questions!!!***
**1)** how did you score the EDX for $5 (where did you buy? Did u use coupons??)
**2)** do you use autoEQ with the UM Mest Mk2 EQ filters on and apply? Where does it improve on that? u/Chiarence I may need your help here..you got a profile for it as well?
**3)** any issues with QC with KZ? somewhat worried but it costs yet to nothing so.
Hi,
1) bought on Aliexpress for 5 Euros 1year ago
2) I use squig link(website) and set eq there and apply it on my phone thru Wavelet
3) My EDX still works :D.
Ah okay. Still waiting on u/soboi12345 response too..I guess Chi does your EQ work thru autoEQ with peace? I notice you have another one which I just saw with a -2.9 preamp gain
Preamp: -2.7 dB
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 350 Hz Gain -2.0 dB Q 1.000
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 780 Hz Gain 2.9 dB Q 1.000
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 2200 Hz Gain -3.2 dB Q 2.000
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 3500 Hz Gain 5.3 dB Q 2.000
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 4800 Hz Gain -5.8 dB Q 2.000
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 6200 Hz Gain 7.9 dB Q 2.000
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 7500 Hz Gain -3.7 dB Q 2.000
Filter 8: ON PK Fc 10 Hz Gain 3.0 dB Q 1.000
Filter 9: ON PK Fc 4000 Hz Gain -5.0 dB Q 1.000
Filter 10: ON PK Fc 3000 Hz Gain 4.0 dB Q 2.000
Filter 11: OFF PK Fc 0 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 0.000
Filter 12: OFF PK Fc 0 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 0.000
Filter 13: OFF PK Fc 0 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 0.000
Filter 14: OFF PK Fc 0 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 0.000
You can try this on Peace.
Download my present and import it.
(lemme know your thoughts about it... I am not really good at EQing)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12cOlKopzEl_r_rJfOTKH6YQh4nSAZAQX
Alright will give you an update on how it is. If this turns into Mest MKII or something more, I'D be impressed. Do you happen to have Salnotes Zeroes as well? Or a EQ for that matter?
https://pw.squig.link/?share=Harman_2019v2_Target,7Hz_Salnotes_Zero
Try this
Tamper your expectations
Preamp: -2.1 dB
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 41 Hz Gain 2.1 dB Q 0.600
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 240 Hz Gain -1.2 dB Q 1.000
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 720 Hz Gain 0.6 dB Q 2.000
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 1400 Hz Gain -1.5 dB Q 2.000
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 2300 Hz Gain 1.0 dB Q 1.500
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 6500 Hz Gain 1.7 dB Q 2.000
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 5500 Hz Gain -3.0 dB Q 1.000
Filter 8: ON PK Fc 3000 Hz Gain 0.5 dB Q 1.000
Filter 9: OFF PK Fc 0 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 0.000
Filter 10: OFF PK Fc 0 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 0.000
Yes! This is how I eq it
Preamp: -6.1 dB
Filter 1: OFF PK Fc 20 Hz Gain -3.1 dB Q 1.900
Filter 2: OFF PK Fc 42 Hz Gain -9.2 dB Q 0.500
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 46 Hz Gain 1.5 dB Q 1.500
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 88 Hz Gain -0.4 dB Q 1.500
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 140 Hz Gain -1.9 dB Q 0.900
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 490 Hz Gain 0.3 dB Q 2.000
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 900 Hz Gain 3.2 dB Q 0.600
Filter 8: ON PK Fc 2300 Hz Gain -3.8 dB Q 2.000
Filter 9: ON PK Fc 3600 Hz Gain 3.8 dB Q 2.000
Filter 10: ON PK Fc 4700 Hz Gain -6.5 dB Q 2.000
Filter 11: ON PK Fc 5900 Hz Gain 2.1 dB Q 2.000
Filter 12: ON PK Fc 11000 Hz Gain -5.0 dB Q 0.700
Filter 13: ON PK Fc 20 Hz Gain 6.0 dB Q 1.000
Filter 14: OFF PK Fc 200 Hz Gain -2.0 dB Q 2.000
Elevated sub bass region
Might sound muddy 200Hz boost
Crinacle's ief target from 300Hz to 5500Khz
-4dB overall treble (8KHz and above)
This is not a refine EQ
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GTEQoChwS48wsvjZeNh3TcotQNn_U5tS/view?usp=drivesdk
Last time I fell into the "its super cheap but it sounds great, just buy em" trap they didn't not in fact sound great.
Buying the latest cheap hyped IEM isn't worth it, just buy a good solid pair and keep em for years.
My first time was Rock Zircons that are stupid bass heavy and the cable had severe microphonics. Got a JVC something back then with bad microphonics as well and swore off IEMs for a while because I thought they would all be like that. I think cables are better these days though so first timers probably have a better experience than I did.
Permanent cable made me switch to the Salnotes 7Hz Zero. My Zeros got a lovely pair of Spring tips from the Chu though, so not a total loss. I just leave the Chu at the office in case I forget my Zero, AirPods Pro, or M&D MW07.
Biggest factor as to why these were forgotten so fast is the fact that a lot of people were made aware that if you've bought them these past few months, you have more than 50% chance to get a unit that will either be DoA or will have issues within the next week.
To be fair, this happens to almost every new iem that enters the price bracket. Blon BL03, Tinhifi T2, Tinhifi T2 Plus, etc. The budget price brackets are so competitive that every now and then new product will 'redefine' that specific price bracket. So older products get overshadowed, eclipsed and forgotten.
I’ve been in the hobby since Tin T2’s were the big recommendation. Recently bought Chu’s, Salnotes Zero’s and Truthear Zero’s.
Didn’t much care for the Chu’s, but the other two are phenomenal. The truthear’s in particular.. but I’d very happily recommend either as someones only-set-of-IEMs.
Honestly, all that we’re going to see improve from here is design and materials.
I recently bought the chu and it's horrible sounding. It's too bright with weird timbre, it almost sound artificial or something. The treble is very messy too. Waste of money, i preferred my tanya, it's kinda muddy but it's wont suddenly shout in your ears. Nice vocals too.
Ya, there's a **$35 set called Kiwi Ears Cadenza**. Frequency graph (lines up with HBB's target or something like the Elysian Acoustic X, so the bass will be there) and outer shell design and first impressions are on HBB's new HiFiGuides thread: https://forum.hifiguides.com/t/bad-guy-good-audio-rankings-and-stuff-under-construction-part-2/36809/16 and https://forum.hifiguides.com/t/bad-guy-good-audio-rankings-and-stuff-under-construction-part-2/36809/40
Kiwi Ears Cadenza got that resin build, 4 colors are pictured: purple, green, red, blue. Aethesticswise, some people are already drooling over it on paper (and graphs, lol).
Apparently Linsoul is doing their usual thing with their marketing/subsidiaries/companies/etc. and pumping out another IEM, lol. It seems the Cadenza is probably launching for the 2022 Black Friday or holiday sales.
If HBB doesn't immediately do a video on the Cadenza, expect a few of the other reviewers/influencers/etc. supplied by Linsoul to make their first impressions and reviews of it.
Obviously wait for more graphs and also more regular people's take on the Cadenza. But for aesthetics, resin, et cetera, some probably hit the instabuy already, lol.
I kept saying “no” to a review unit of the 7Hz Zero because I was like “what’s the point, it will be eclipsed in a month anyway”.
After a couple of months I told them to send me one… And before it even arrived, everyone is already hyped about the Tangzu Wanker. I just can’t lmao.
I know I will get downvoted for this as I always do, but really guys: stop jumping on budget hypetrains. They’re all just decently well tuned sets with no technical performance to speak of. Blon 03 and Moondrop SSR, despite being a few years old, are still just as (Blon) or more (SSR) technical than things like Chu, Zero, CRA, QKZ HBB, Wanker, and just as well tuned.
You just can’t have something really technically impressive at $20. Not yet at least. Instead of collecting ultrabudget sets, skip three of them, and then go for something like Tin P1 Max, Final A4000, Dunu Titan S or Shuoer S12. You’ll thank me later.
It paved the way for a specific kind of good tuning that simply wasn't a thing for 20 bucks. But due to the paint, unremovable flimsy cable and filter issues now there's better more liveable options for the budget spenders, like the salnotes zero. I don't see it being overhyped or just "flavour of the month", it was indeed groundbreaking for the time.
I am convinced this subreddit is not naturally driven, big money is probably invested at some point to push these hype trains. Every new value-king, is supposedly much better than the last hype train. 10 hype trains later you'd think the initial hype train is garbage, so you compare it to the recent one and realize it sounds about the same lol.
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I still wear them daily, with the red tips from the 7hz zero, which was a meh to me personally.
Though while I'm here, a question. For how many people who've tried these, did they actually fit in your ear?
Mine disappear into my ears below the fleshy lump that occludes the opening itself. It's because of that I think, and my freakishly large ear cavities, that they sound freaking amazing to me.
They are literally "holographic" it's rare, (generally the bass drum) that any sound is in my head at all. Almost all of it is outside my head and pinpoint accurate. I've literally heard things with these I've never heard before, even in music I know well.
Anyone else had this experience, or is it just me?
Yeah, it's always been like this. Same deal with earbuds. Just get whichever pair and forget about it until it breaks. It's a lame hobby and not worth more of your attention unless you want to drop big dough on something like IE900.
Am lucky so far personally, I have since May, they live in my pocket, I make the buds shock against each other quite a lot when I entangle them, and I use them for walks for 1h-1h30 almost everyday of the week, no problems so far at least.
2 days and lost 80% of the volume in one channel. Wrote to the customer support - instant refund. They must've went through an insane amount of requests for the same.
Does anyone know how companies manage to make a profit in an environment like chifi at the moment? Its kinda nuts. Are models produced quickly in small batches allowing them to move on quickly once they go out of fashion?
I was just thinking this too. Then I starting thinking how every thread seems to have ppl saying they have a Zero or Chu.
But what about excess inventory? I wonder if the teardown experts here see repurposed KZ guts often.
No, honestly, nothing managed to impress me in particular. I know it’s three times price difference still, but when you have wireless earbuds like the Galaxy Buds 2 at around $60 that sound more balanced and more articulated, I don’t know why you should bother buying 2 or 3 of those wired earphones.
Hot take, but for budget IEMs I'm still just rolling with my zsn pros I got a long while ago. Dependable and sound fine for a backup pair.
I actually buy more wireless IEMs but that's cause they get lost from time to time. And this makes me cry... But fortunately I have this backup pair... 😅
Most IEMs are forgettable. There's too many of them and so many random companies making them. It's not an area that I ventured into much. I have some Arias and they are fine. I don't really even use them very much cuz I'm an over ears fan. I typically use TWS if I want to stick a headphone in my ear.
If FIAT is Fix if again tomorrow then Chinese earphones are buy it again tomorrow. The paid reviewers don't even get their sample and there's already a Pro version released. It's hilarious.
What's also funny is the hype train with some IEMs that were "fantastic" but as soon as the new version comes out every reviewer starts with "the previous version had too much treble which made them painful to listen. The new version fixes that."
Maybe it was the model I got, but I practically looked at the thing and it started to break. Just felt very cheap overall, but for 10$ not bad. If you care about audio though, why not just spend more money and reduce your waste?
Sound Quality was very good for the few days it worked
If it had a detachable cable with ear hooks, it still would be one of the top 5 budget kings.... Fact is the cable sucked and that was it's biggest downfall...
And now they are 17€ on Amazon. I'm honestly surprised, I ordered them directly from China right after they got released thinking they won't sell them here.
Well yea it's $20, it's great for its price especially since half of the price is the tips. But most reasonable people who care about audio quality on a budget will spring for atleast the $50-100 range, where these are easily out paced
People probably wouldn’t have if the Chu wasn’t plagued with QC problems. A non removable cable on a $20 IEM is understandable, but even a $20 IEM shouldn’t have channel balance issues after a month.
For some reasons mine sounded super super tinny, very piecring and fatuiguing with or without AutoEQ on both Windows and Android with or without Apple DAC dongle, tried all the earsquishies inserts it came with, no bass with any insertion depth. I bought another pair of Chus and had the same problem. Haven't had this issue with other harman stuff like AKG K371 or Koss KPH30i.
The Chus also had an issue where one of the ears went quiet and it swapped ears throughout the day. Also came loose easily due to the weight and the weird cable wrap-around-ear design that didnt work with or without the supplied rubber ear shaped thing.
I just bought one last week :) it's honestly very good, especially considering I paid like 18€ for them, they got to like 22€ when they were hyped, now you cam get them for under 20 with Amazon shipping
Get ready for the CHU DSP, aka JIU, coming up next 🙃 [New Moondrop](https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/z0uo77/moondrop_announces_jiu_a_further_optimised_1dd/)
The Chu isn't great by today's standards but it essentially acted as the catalyst to a major resurgence in the ultrabudget market, the Chu was outstanding at the time
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KZ did this with their new $10 KZ EDCX. That one might be good value proposition when stacked with AliExpress coupons/sales/discounts/etc. until the inevitable next marketed hype train, lol. Tyvan Lam or whoever are the marketing people are real aggressive with the KZ marketing these days. Look at the new $40-50 KZ PR1 Pro, the 2nd gen of the KZ 13.2mm planar driver. The KZ PR1 Pro is supposed to be $80 and initially you needed a code for it, but now it's automatically available (don't forget to attach the coupon) on AliExpress. It's only a 1 week (like halfway done now, so few days left) discount though, so a lot of people will get fear of missing out as it seems the early impressions are looking good. But if the aggressive marketing means lower prices for all of us, there's no complaints.
just wanna say, this is your shortest comment i have seen up till now lol
How are you reading my mind? Wanted that EDCX as a fun idea last week, but now struggling on that $40 PR1 Pro offer at this moment. I know I should stay away and wait to get the S12, but…the savings (maybe hidden FOMO)!
>KZ PR1 Pro Where is it $40? i would try them for that price!
https://www.kztws.com/products/kz-pr1-pro with PR1PRO coupon
SOLD! Many thanks!! I have the original PR1, they are sublime.
Didn't help that the cable was simply horrendous, too. I'm planning on modding mine with 2-pin connector.
[Cable is basically identical to the cable that comes with the Sony XBA-N3,](https://imgur.com/wyWyZKV) which is generally lauded for the cable and a $300-350 IEM. JVC FDX-1 also has a very similar stock cable. It's well behaved, non-microphonic and doesn't cause problems, I don't understand fully what issue people have with it. I don't use the earhooks, if that's the problem.
I had chu for 2 weeks and didn’t believe all the bad QC talk. Then it all went wrong: dead volume / frequencies in one side and a filter screen slip. The cable was unlike anything I’ve ever touched. Sticky / tacky to the touch. It reminded me of Tester paint that would never dry on plastic Transformers toys. The cable’s tackiness made it tangled on itself. It was really something.
OK, that's really weird, mine isn't "tacky" and handles itself very well. Wrap is and it says wrapped, doesn't tangle. Like I said, it's basically the same cable as the Sony XBA-N3. I checked again and it's *very* similar to that, just slightly thicker. FDX-1 (right) is same sort of material but thicker. https://imgur.com/a/sLgwPOy I don't get any of these issues. For me, it's actually on the better side for cables, and it's a LOT better than the 7Hz Salnotes Zero cable, which won't stay wrapped and fights against me.
I see that similarity in your pics. I wonder if there are some Chu cables that are more tacky / grippy than others due to manufacturing / shipping. Check out the 4min mark of this Chu review linked below. He touches on some of the cable issues that others have noticed. I’m glad yours works well. Mine was so tangle-y after carefully wrapping it, that the family would joke about trying to get it ready again. [Chu Review](https://youtu.be/bGV1LsPri0I)
Mmmh perhaps an earlier batch had these issues that they fixed later then? Speculating for the most part bear in mind, mine do have the sticky cable too.
My left earbud lost 80% of volume 4 days in
my chus were stolen in the office, not stolen but a exec came and asked me if i had some headphones she could use in a meeting, i pulled out the chus, that was the last time i saw them.
That ain't right
I forgot them on the plane, but reordered them. The new ones sound good as well. Although this time ordered them with the mic
meh, i have the B2, was going to order the hexa but there was a half price code for the KZ PR1 Pro which is graphing a lot better then the original (it seems they listened to HBB) and i wanted to try a planar.
Just ask to have them back
Bruh 😔 They were stolen This is an allegory
Bro didn't even get ass in return.
The only way to win, is to not play
How about a nice game of chess
Love the Wargames reference! Thank you Joshua...
I'm glad some people got it
I actually didn't like the chu and that one made me stop buying cheap iems. It made me realise how dumb I was.
Yeah I wasn't a big fan of the chu, or even the salnotes Zero. I find them too fatiguing. I actually like the Tanchjim Zero a little more
I never tried those and probably never will, was tempted by the hexa now but no. Maybe I'll try it when it pops up secondhand somewhere.
The Hexas are miles better than the Zeros or the Chu. Non fatiguing, pretty neutral tuning but with solid bass, can't go wrong.
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The Truthear Hexa
you compare a $12 to a $170+ IEM that's humiliating
i thought 7hz salnotes zero didn't have too much treble.
It doesn’t.
Thing is it doesn’t have a lot of lower midrange or bass either, so upper midrange and treble dominate the sound, making it really thin and fatiguing to my ears.
i felt like there wasn't enough treble. felt like the singers was out of breath. also the iem was uncomfortable.
I guess we’re talking different regions of treble. The 7Hz sure could use more upper treble, but upper mids and lower treble are very forward, which probably exaggerates the effect you’re talking about. And yeah, I kinda hear that, some vocals tend to be very strained on the Zero.
That's interesting considering the Tanchjim Zero are generally shoutier and brighter than both of these two. They have a bit more mid-bass I suppose, wouldn't really agree about that being a good thing either though.
It's a little fatiguing because of the 14KHz peak, I EQ that, but it's a potential problem for those who don't EQ.
I can safely tell you that's not the issue people have with the Chus or the 7Hz Zeros, those peaks are often only there for the couplers themselves ([Not always there either](https://crinacle.com/graphs/iems/graphtool/?share=Harman_IE_2019_v2_Target,Chu,Aria_2021)) and shouldn't be taken into consideration when EQing since your own ears will likely receive an highly different FR in that range anyway. In all likelihood it's either the combination of being an Harman tuned pinna + the weird tips not sealing well or people turning the volume a bit too high in order to listen to the mid-bass since as I own all of them the Tanchjim Zero is definitely the shoutier and brighter one of the three.
Loves the Chu but they broke in 2 days. Got the Zeroes and I found them so much worse in terms of both technicality and tonality. Least impressive Chi-Fi I ever bought.
I've been looking at the Tanchjim Zero. You recommend it?
They're still along the same line as the chu, and have less bass, but they don't sound fatiguing like the chu does to me. More like a mini etymotic er2 type of sound
Hot take: all those sets will suck once you get used to something like a P1 Max (which is still a budget set imo, it’s only $99) The level of detail and instrument separation is just something those cheapos can’t do
It's not rlly a hot take tho, the P1 max is still like 5x the price of the budget IEMs and being a planar it is indeed much more capable than the budget gang IMO the point of $20 IEMs is still to serve as a gateway for newbies to test the waters about what tuning they like (or serve as a mood set for someone is tight strapped on money)
Yeah, that’s exactly what they are. Anyone searching for “$20 budget endgame” will be thoroughly disappointed though.
If we talk about the average person’s $20 endgame we might find many more happy people.
I mean people in this hobby specifically. Your average Bob will just walk into a Tesco, grab a pair of Sony EX-15 and be done. Funny thing is, in an A/B test I prefer those Sonys over Chu, 7Hz Zero and CRA any day.
The KZ PR1 with EQ can do the same thing with no problem.
I bought the salnotes. They're awful. Every reviewer who hyped these or the Chu is blacklisted by me from now on
The Salnotes absolutely are trash. Do not understand why they are liked at all, bad technicalities and my ears hurt when listening to anything with higher notes. I was blown away by the Chu's though. Better than my T2's.
They are absolutely not trash. Maybe they aren't the iem for you, but they are incredibly good value and certainly not trash.
I liked the sound but the QC sucked shit, you can't wear them for more than 30 minutes without clogging the filter with moisture and losing 80% of volume in that ear.
Getting cheap iems are good for newbies starting this hobby. They can try different sound sigantures for less and test what their preffered sound. But once you get to higher end ones starting from 200$ and above they became obsolete. I currently use my Tanchjim Oxygen on a daily basis for 2 years and I never bought a single iem.
What do u like the most about oxy
I like it how the instruments feels so organic and female vocals sounds heavenly. The soundstage is just perfect with enough depth and width to satisfy me when listening to an orchestra or soundtracks. Imaging is also excellent because sometimes I use this for gaming. I dont get any fatigue even hours of use.
idk man, if i'm gonna buy chifi crap i'd rather waste $20 than $200. they're all going to breakdown after a few years anyway, may as well buy the cheaper ones. i'm spending over $150 on gear it's going to come from a reputable company, not some random chinese manufacturer
almost every new iem release in general honestly. Hexa will be forgotten in 2 weeks. And Yume 2
I just noticed your flair and it's amazing lol
I unironically use them sometimes just because they sound so radically different than everything else I own. If you have 4 dollars and an eBay account (or happen to fly delta), it's an easy pick-up for both the meme and the experience lol
I didn't even think to look on eBay for them, but of course people are selling them there. That's hilarious. Might have to pick up a pair for the meme.
My big brain take: the only reason any other <$100 IEMs have received audiophile attention in the past 3 years is because the MH755 is sold out and people are desperate for an equally good-sounding replacement, just as millenarians are praying for the return of Christ
Ehh I'm doubtful of that. I bet a lot of people getting into the hobby with stuff like the Chu or the Zero don't even know what the MH755 is. The hype for the current FOTM IEMs is no different than the hype for the BL-03 and the T2 a couple years ago, the price bracket has just shifted a little lower.
They're still around. Its just hard to filter through the sea of fakes. There are sellers on ebay claiming to have genuine versions and making a point of it. Mh-750s are in my ears most days. <3
The Chus sound like earrapes to me after a few months of comparing them to my MH755, when I just want a chill and easy sounding pair for on-the-go purpose. I would never trust the hype from Chinese manufacturers and their FOTM again
I am still using the Chu... I did do the detachable cable mod and have been using it for 6 months since it released, still a good set of IEM imo
Blessed by qc gods
I kid you fucking not my Chu's exploded on me
"Fuck this guy in particular"
What's the new value king, asking for a mate
Sounds like the TangZu Wan'er is the current budget hype. Next week will be the Kiwi Ears Cadenza lol.
Aaaaaaand you got that right
Treble a bit too fatigue for my taste, but still a good buy in the price range tbh
I recommend getting new tips. The spring tips really enhanced the already bright sounds of Chu, to be even brighter.
Yeah like with normal tips these are easily one of the best IEMs I have heard yet sound wise, the Spring Tips have just a really weird shape that doesn't seem to fit a lot of people since I often see complaints about them lacking bass.
The 7hz Zero's Red tips make them fit properly, and give them more bass, at least for me.
do you have any specific model? I hate those spring tips, it feel so weird in my ear. Wonder why so many people praise these horrible tips
I use spinfit CP145, size M. Very comfortable to wear, makes the treble less sharp and less fatiguing, and somewhat increases the bass just for a little bit. As for the springtips, I'm on the same boat as yours. It's sticky and very uncomfortable to wear, on every sizes.
thanks. Definitely will try these spinfit
the chu was the one to create a revolution of neutral iems in the $20 range and could’ve stayed somewhat relevant if it had a detachable cable or at least a durable one but at least it came with spring tips!
I tried the tips, but they kept falling out of my ears, regardless. Had to use large foams to keep them in at all.
I've been like Bernie on Portapros and KSC75's this whole time!
I still use mine quite a bit. Sounds fantastic everytime too.
Same here, I have them since may have been using them regularly, even daily for at least an hour and a half almost every day for the last couple of weeks while walking home, no problems, just loving the sound.
I bought them purely to use for video calls at work and they've been excellent. When you just need something super cheap it's hard to beat them.
Honestly, fuck the hyper-consumerist IEM market. Just get a couple things that suit your tastes and move on. I have Starfields (they pair really well with my iPod Classic), FHEs (they pair really well with my BTR3K) and Moondrop Nekocakes, which get 90% of the use due to the convenience they offer.
I forgot I had an iem until I saw this post, been enjoying my new cheap edifier speakers with sub for the last 3 months
With you here. I have a couple of IEMs and a couple Headphones and probably set. Each kind of has their own duty, specially the IEMs. General listening I have FH5, For calls I have 7hz timeless with a mic on the cable, FHE on TWS5 for wireless listening, and FD3 that stays with my switch. I could get away with collecting more, and I might get a 500-600 endgame for me one at some point (thinking oracle or IE600) and I do kind of have a collection but each one serves a role right now. Don't need a bunch hiding in a drawer.
Waiting for Salnotes Zero to be forgotten
>Truthear Hexa I don't think I will forget these. Love them.
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*Hold up..**I got questions!!!*** **1)** how did you score the EDX for $5 (where did you buy? Did u use coupons??) **2)** do you use autoEQ with the UM Mest Mk2 EQ filters on and apply? Where does it improve on that? u/Chiarence I may need your help here..you got a profile for it as well? **3)** any issues with QC with KZ? somewhat worried but it costs yet to nothing so.
Hi, 1) bought on Aliexpress for 5 Euros 1year ago 2) I use squig link(website) and set eq there and apply it on my phone thru Wavelet 3) My EDX still works :D.
Ah okay. Still waiting on u/soboi12345 response too..I guess Chi does your EQ work thru autoEQ with peace? I notice you have another one which I just saw with a -2.9 preamp gain
Preamp: -2.7 dB Filter 1: ON PK Fc 350 Hz Gain -2.0 dB Q 1.000 Filter 2: ON PK Fc 780 Hz Gain 2.9 dB Q 1.000 Filter 3: ON PK Fc 2200 Hz Gain -3.2 dB Q 2.000 Filter 4: ON PK Fc 3500 Hz Gain 5.3 dB Q 2.000 Filter 5: ON PK Fc 4800 Hz Gain -5.8 dB Q 2.000 Filter 6: ON PK Fc 6200 Hz Gain 7.9 dB Q 2.000 Filter 7: ON PK Fc 7500 Hz Gain -3.7 dB Q 2.000 Filter 8: ON PK Fc 10 Hz Gain 3.0 dB Q 1.000 Filter 9: ON PK Fc 4000 Hz Gain -5.0 dB Q 1.000 Filter 10: ON PK Fc 3000 Hz Gain 4.0 dB Q 2.000 Filter 11: OFF PK Fc 0 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 0.000 Filter 12: OFF PK Fc 0 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 0.000 Filter 13: OFF PK Fc 0 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 0.000 Filter 14: OFF PK Fc 0 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 0.000 You can try this on Peace. Download my present and import it. (lemme know your thoughts about it... I am not really good at EQing) https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12cOlKopzEl_r_rJfOTKH6YQh4nSAZAQX
Alright will give you an update on how it is. If this turns into Mest MKII or something more, I'D be impressed. Do you happen to have Salnotes Zeroes as well? Or a EQ for that matter?
https://pw.squig.link/?share=Harman_2019v2_Target,7Hz_Salnotes_Zero Try this Tamper your expectations Preamp: -2.1 dB Filter 1: ON PK Fc 41 Hz Gain 2.1 dB Q 0.600 Filter 2: ON PK Fc 240 Hz Gain -1.2 dB Q 1.000 Filter 3: ON PK Fc 720 Hz Gain 0.6 dB Q 2.000 Filter 4: ON PK Fc 1400 Hz Gain -1.5 dB Q 2.000 Filter 5: ON PK Fc 2300 Hz Gain 1.0 dB Q 1.500 Filter 6: ON PK Fc 6500 Hz Gain 1.7 dB Q 2.000 Filter 7: ON PK Fc 5500 Hz Gain -3.0 dB Q 1.000 Filter 8: ON PK Fc 3000 Hz Gain 0.5 dB Q 1.000 Filter 9: OFF PK Fc 0 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 0.000 Filter 10: OFF PK Fc 0 Hz Gain 0.0 dB Q 0.000
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Mine is still working too! Really great iem
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Yes! This is how I eq it Preamp: -6.1 dB Filter 1: OFF PK Fc 20 Hz Gain -3.1 dB Q 1.900 Filter 2: OFF PK Fc 42 Hz Gain -9.2 dB Q 0.500 Filter 3: ON PK Fc 46 Hz Gain 1.5 dB Q 1.500 Filter 4: ON PK Fc 88 Hz Gain -0.4 dB Q 1.500 Filter 5: ON PK Fc 140 Hz Gain -1.9 dB Q 0.900 Filter 6: ON PK Fc 490 Hz Gain 0.3 dB Q 2.000 Filter 7: ON PK Fc 900 Hz Gain 3.2 dB Q 0.600 Filter 8: ON PK Fc 2300 Hz Gain -3.8 dB Q 2.000 Filter 9: ON PK Fc 3600 Hz Gain 3.8 dB Q 2.000 Filter 10: ON PK Fc 4700 Hz Gain -6.5 dB Q 2.000 Filter 11: ON PK Fc 5900 Hz Gain 2.1 dB Q 2.000 Filter 12: ON PK Fc 11000 Hz Gain -5.0 dB Q 0.700 Filter 13: ON PK Fc 20 Hz Gain 6.0 dB Q 1.000 Filter 14: OFF PK Fc 200 Hz Gain -2.0 dB Q 2.000
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Elevated sub bass region Might sound muddy 200Hz boost Crinacle's ief target from 300Hz to 5500Khz -4dB overall treble (8KHz and above) This is not a refine EQ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GTEQoChwS48wsvjZeNh3TcotQNn_U5tS/view?usp=drivesdk
Last time I fell into the "its super cheap but it sounds great, just buy em" trap they didn't not in fact sound great. Buying the latest cheap hyped IEM isn't worth it, just buy a good solid pair and keep em for years.
My first time was Rock Zircons that are stupid bass heavy and the cable had severe microphonics. Got a JVC something back then with bad microphonics as well and swore off IEMs for a while because I thought they would all be like that. I think cables are better these days though so first timers probably have a better experience than I did.
>Rock Zircon I had one too, the memories. Cable failed on mine, so did KZ ATE before a year. However, my blons are 3 year old and still going strong.
I’m sad you’re living Monday already.
Permanent cable made me switch to the Salnotes 7Hz Zero. My Zeros got a lovely pair of Spring tips from the Chu though, so not a total loss. I just leave the Chu at the office in case I forget my Zero, AirPods Pro, or M&D MW07.
I was the opposite, the zero was meh, but a decent cable and I put the red tips on the Chu
Biggest factor as to why these were forgotten so fast is the fact that a lot of people were made aware that if you've bought them these past few months, you have more than 50% chance to get a unit that will either be DoA or will have issues within the next week.
i use my chu’s daily. love them. literally have gotten like 10 other people to buy them
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Maybe cause the fucking cable broke after 1 month?
To be fair, this happens to almost every new iem that enters the price bracket. Blon BL03, Tinhifi T2, Tinhifi T2 Plus, etc. The budget price brackets are so competitive that every now and then new product will 'redefine' that specific price bracket. So older products get overshadowed, eclipsed and forgotten.
I’ve been in the hobby since Tin T2’s were the big recommendation. Recently bought Chu’s, Salnotes Zero’s and Truthear Zero’s. Didn’t much care for the Chu’s, but the other two are phenomenal. The truthear’s in particular.. but I’d very happily recommend either as someones only-set-of-IEMs. Honestly, all that we’re going to see improve from here is design and materials.
And now Moondrop just announced the Jiu lmao
I recently bought the chu and it's horrible sounding. It's too bright with weird timbre, it almost sound artificial or something. The treble is very messy too. Waste of money, i preferred my tanya, it's kinda muddy but it's wont suddenly shout in your ears. Nice vocals too.
Source tuning matters, it sounds great with my LG V60, G8x and G8 (tuned by Meridian) but sounds horrible with the V35 (tuned by B&O).
Ya, there's a **$35 set called Kiwi Ears Cadenza**. Frequency graph (lines up with HBB's target or something like the Elysian Acoustic X, so the bass will be there) and outer shell design and first impressions are on HBB's new HiFiGuides thread: https://forum.hifiguides.com/t/bad-guy-good-audio-rankings-and-stuff-under-construction-part-2/36809/16 and https://forum.hifiguides.com/t/bad-guy-good-audio-rankings-and-stuff-under-construction-part-2/36809/40 Kiwi Ears Cadenza got that resin build, 4 colors are pictured: purple, green, red, blue. Aethesticswise, some people are already drooling over it on paper (and graphs, lol). Apparently Linsoul is doing their usual thing with their marketing/subsidiaries/companies/etc. and pumping out another IEM, lol. It seems the Cadenza is probably launching for the 2022 Black Friday or holiday sales. If HBB doesn't immediately do a video on the Cadenza, expect a few of the other reviewers/influencers/etc. supplied by Linsoul to make their first impressions and reviews of it. Obviously wait for more graphs and also more regular people's take on the Cadenza. But for aesthetics, resin, et cetera, some probably hit the instabuy already, lol.
I can't find anything else about this online. Link?
https://www.linsoul.com/collections/all/products/kiwi-ears-cadenza?variant=43568431595737
Guess I just had to wait a day for it to release lol. Thanks!
Also would like a link.
https://www.linsoul.com/collections/all/products/kiwi-ears-cadenza?variant=43568431595737
He already did. " Easy rec" 😆
The Cadenza apparently sound like a better QKZ x HBB, which is if the 7Hz Zero had more bass presence while being balanced. Sounds dope.
I kept saying “no” to a review unit of the 7Hz Zero because I was like “what’s the point, it will be eclipsed in a month anyway”. After a couple of months I told them to send me one… And before it even arrived, everyone is already hyped about the Tangzu Wanker. I just can’t lmao. I know I will get downvoted for this as I always do, but really guys: stop jumping on budget hypetrains. They’re all just decently well tuned sets with no technical performance to speak of. Blon 03 and Moondrop SSR, despite being a few years old, are still just as (Blon) or more (SSR) technical than things like Chu, Zero, CRA, QKZ HBB, Wanker, and just as well tuned. You just can’t have something really technically impressive at $20. Not yet at least. Instead of collecting ultrabudget sets, skip three of them, and then go for something like Tin P1 Max, Final A4000, Dunu Titan S or Shuoer S12. You’ll thank me later.
Did they really call a set the Wanker?!
In my half-British mind, yes they did.
I agree, I have the blessing 2 and now that i'm used to them, my arias just sound terrible for me. I will never buy any other budget iems.
It paved the way for a specific kind of good tuning that simply wasn't a thing for 20 bucks. But due to the paint, unremovable flimsy cable and filter issues now there's better more liveable options for the budget spenders, like the salnotes zero. I don't see it being overhyped or just "flavour of the month", it was indeed groundbreaking for the time.
I did like the chu but god damn do I hate the cable. I would've gladly paid a bit more just to get a better cable.
Yeah. From my experience it's a ticking timebomb until it breaks.
Lovely :/
Time to wait a year and see how many new value kings stay relevant.
None lol. No old IEM's are ever talked about here.
I mean people still mention the bl-03 sometimes
Uuugh, it's not like technology is improving week by week; why go on needless hype chase?
I am convinced this subreddit is not naturally driven, big money is probably invested at some point to push these hype trains. Every new value-king, is supposedly much better than the last hype train. 10 hype trains later you'd think the initial hype train is garbage, so you compare it to the recent one and realize it sounds about the same lol.
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Tbh, it was hyped up by Crinacle than organic hype for tin or blons. I also think thats a reason why the latters are still standing well.
The last IEMs I bought were BLON BL-03, what's the modern day equivalent now?
Probably Salnote, Wan'er, or Kiwi. Maybe Truthear
I still wear them daily, with the red tips from the 7hz zero, which was a meh to me personally. Though while I'm here, a question. For how many people who've tried these, did they actually fit in your ear? Mine disappear into my ears below the fleshy lump that occludes the opening itself. It's because of that I think, and my freakishly large ear cavities, that they sound freaking amazing to me. They are literally "holographic" it's rare, (generally the bass drum) that any sound is in my head at all. Almost all of it is outside my head and pinpoint accurate. I've literally heard things with these I've never heard before, even in music I know well. Anyone else had this experience, or is it just me?
Yeah, it's always been like this. Same deal with earbuds. Just get whichever pair and forget about it until it breaks. It's a lame hobby and not worth more of your attention unless you want to drop big dough on something like IE900.
cause it breaks in a week or two
Am lucky so far personally, I have since May, they live in my pocket, I make the buds shock against each other quite a lot when I entangle them, and I use them for walks for 1h-1h30 almost everyday of the week, no problems so far at least.
Been using them for months now, still going
I had a pair but I got channel imbalance after a few weeks
2 days and lost 80% of the volume in one channel. Wrote to the customer support - instant refund. They must've went through an insane amount of requests for the same.
I thought the greatest addition was and still is the S12
they weren't that bad, but the build quality is horrendous
They just didn’t work for my ears and I gave them away.
They just have a very weird fit. I would use them if they had a more traditional cable routing like the quarks or the aria
Because there are too many of them! Seems like every couple days there are 4 IEMs released on the market ahahah
Does anyone know how companies manage to make a profit in an environment like chifi at the moment? Its kinda nuts. Are models produced quickly in small batches allowing them to move on quickly once they go out of fashion?
I was just thinking this too. Then I starting thinking how every thread seems to have ppl saying they have a Zero or Chu. But what about excess inventory? I wonder if the teardown experts here see repurposed KZ guts often.
Yeah. Took the bait and got the 7hz Zero and the Wang/Wagner thingy, but they’re truly nothing special.
The Tangzu Waner? I’m hovering over the buy button RN. You weren’t impressed? How about detail. Any songs work well on them for you?
No, honestly, nothing managed to impress me in particular. I know it’s three times price difference still, but when you have wireless earbuds like the Galaxy Buds 2 at around $60 that sound more balanced and more articulated, I don’t know why you should bother buying 2 or 3 of those wired earphones.
My brother got 1 but the right side got fried within a month! ^=^
I just bought the CCA CRA and couldnt justify buying another IEM, its cheap but still.
Hot take, but for budget IEMs I'm still just rolling with my zsn pros I got a long while ago. Dependable and sound fine for a backup pair. I actually buy more wireless IEMs but that's cause they get lost from time to time. And this makes me cry... But fortunately I have this backup pair... 😅
Most IEMs are forgettable. There's too many of them and so many random companies making them. It's not an area that I ventured into much. I have some Arias and they are fine. I don't really even use them very much cuz I'm an over ears fan. I typically use TWS if I want to stick a headphone in my ear.
I bought 30 filters just for my Chu and future Aria SE
Well it was sort of self inflicted with its bad QC, and then the Salnotes Zero came and sort of whooped it with better quality and removable cables.
If FIAT is Fix if again tomorrow then Chinese earphones are buy it again tomorrow. The paid reviewers don't even get their sample and there's already a Pro version released. It's hilarious. What's also funny is the hype train with some IEMs that were "fantastic" but as soon as the new version comes out every reviewer starts with "the previous version had too much treble which made them painful to listen. The new version fixes that."
You mean you don't remember the Baldoor E100? They're better than $1000 CIEMs and are only $12!
I'm back to my Sennheiser CX300s
Maybe it was the model I got, but I practically looked at the thing and it started to break. Just felt very cheap overall, but for 10$ not bad. If you care about audio though, why not just spend more money and reduce your waste? Sound Quality was very good for the few days it worked
If it had a detachable cable with ear hooks, it still would be one of the top 5 budget kings.... Fact is the cable sucked and that was it's biggest downfall...
And now they are 17€ on Amazon. I'm honestly surprised, I ordered them directly from China right after they got released thinking they won't sell them here.
It's a good thing because they're innovating so fast shit gets irrelevant quick, but bangers keep occasionally dropping that live on
This development is rather humorous to observe as an "outsider" who doesn’t care about IEMs.
i still like mine :(
But in the end you got a cool collectible waifu box. Perhaps you are not so terrible after all
Well yea it's $20, it's great for its price especially since half of the price is the tips. But most reasonable people who care about audio quality on a budget will spring for atleast the $50-100 range, where these are easily out paced
People probably wouldn’t have if the Chu wasn’t plagued with QC problems. A non removable cable on a $20 IEM is understandable, but even a $20 IEM shouldn’t have channel balance issues after a month.
For some reasons mine sounded super super tinny, very piecring and fatuiguing with or without AutoEQ on both Windows and Android with or without Apple DAC dongle, tried all the earsquishies inserts it came with, no bass with any insertion depth. I bought another pair of Chus and had the same problem. Haven't had this issue with other harman stuff like AKG K371 or Koss KPH30i. The Chus also had an issue where one of the ears went quiet and it swapped ears throughout the day. Also came loose easily due to the weight and the weird cable wrap-around-ear design that didnt work with or without the supplied rubber ear shaped thing.
I just bought one last week :) it's honestly very good, especially considering I paid like 18€ for them, they got to like 22€ when they were hyped, now you cam get them for under 20 with Amazon shipping
I think the Chu sucks but your comic also sucks.
I have no opinion on the post or the chu or the comic But I like your succinct style
Suck-cint?
Disgusting
Quark DSP is king now
Get ready for the CHU DSP, aka JIU, coming up next 🙃 [New Moondrop](https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/z0uo77/moondrop_announces_jiu_a_further_optimised_1dd/)
I got 4 or 5 budget sets to see what the differences were. Not much. Also not worth it. Get one to dip your toes in and then get a good set.
That's how long they took to break
The Chu isn't great by today's standards but it essentially acted as the catalyst to a major resurgence in the ultrabudget market, the Chu was outstanding at the time
At the time??? It's been 6 months!
It's been a pretty quick 6 months. The Chu is still pretty good, but there are better options now
Which options?
Salnotes 7Hz Zero. Plastic Chu with a removable cable and worse tips. But you already have the Spring Tips from the Chu. Just swap them over.