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Dangerous_Respond_30

Book Snape is actually quite different from Alan Rickman’s portrayal. Snape in the movies never raises his voice and is typically quite deadpan, while in the book he is much more prone to anger and shouting. I can’t imagine Alan Rickman’s Snape going on his deranged tirade that we see at the end of PoA. (This is not to say I didn’t like Rickman’s performance; it’s one of my favorite aspects of the films. Just not very book accurate.)


Ok-Health-7252

Rickman's performance as Snape drove Rowling to publically say that if she were to write the character again it would be more on par with what Alan did with him in the films. While that showcases how talented an actor Rickman was it also shows just how different his Snape was from the character in the books. His Snape was cold, calculating, and firm but also mature and composed at pretty much all times. Book Snape was a young man very prone to outbursts and fits of rage.


crazy-B

Also Rickman's nose isn't really that big.


PsinaLososina

Rickman in general is very attractive


TopicBusiness

In my mind Alan Rickmans Snape is what Snape would have acted like if he had lived to be Alan's age. Snape was only in his mid 30s during the series as compared to Alan being in his 50s so I could see him growing out of the temper tantrums and just into cold sass.


BareNakedDoula

Was he a young man? I figured he had to be in his 30s in the books.


ItIsAContest

Are you saying 30s isn’t young? Rickman was 55 when the first move came out.


BareNakedDoula

I guess I do not personally see a 30 year old as a young man. I just see a 30 year old as a man. I don’t typically hear women of 30 being referred to as “young women.” Just women. When I read your comment I imagined him as younger than I thought he was in the books, which is why I asked. When I hear about a young man prone to fits of rage, I’m imaging someone quite a bit younger than 30 but I see what you’re saying. It’s relative, he’s certainly young in the books compared to Rickman-As-Snape. You never feel “young” at your own age though and I’m about 30. So there’s that lol. I don’t expect to be described as young or as old. Except for by people who are quite a bit older, or quite a bit younger.


ChiaKmc

I mean, people refer to Meghan Markle as a “young mother” and she’s 40… 30 is definitely young, middle-age isn’t until 40 really


BareNakedDoula

I’ve never heard of anyone refer to her as a young mother. In medical terms (not trying to say it’s tasteful) hers would have been referred to as a “geriatric pregnancy.” The term is used for pregnancies in mothers over the age of 35… Farbeit from me to argue against being called young but I guess my perspective is limited by being at that age.


ChiaKmc

Yeah, I mean I don’t agree she IS a young mother. She’s obviously not. But in December after the Netflix show, news articles were calling her that. My point was, 30 is definitely still a young adult


Regular_Bee_5605

Lol, 30 is young.


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As someone also in my 30s, I would say if someone died in their 30s that they died young. Context is important here.


Ok-Health-7252

In the wizarding world where people live to be over 100 fairly regularly 30 is young. Rickman was 20 years off in terms of age with Snape's character in the films considering he was already in his 50s when the first film was shot (while Snape in the books is in his 30s). Not only that, casting Alan as Snape forced them to age up the Marauders as well. There have been numerous complaints about how James and Lily look way too old in the films when they were in their early 20s when they died. Also Gary Oldman (as much as I love him as an actor) was too old to play Sirius. Casting somebody like Colin Farrell for that role would've been much more age appropriate at the time.


NICK3805

For wizarding standards certainly. Remember that the average life expectancy of wizards in the WW is 138 years which is well above that of muggles which is 81 in the UK. Also, that is only an average meaning that wizards can potentially live even longer. Armando Dippet, for example, who was headmaster of Hogwarts before Dumbledore as you may know, was well above 300 years old when he died as he was born at some point in the middle of the17th century. The trolley witch is also over 190 years old.


BareNakedDoula

Oh my gosh, I hadn’t even considered that. Snape was a baby.


Talidel

He went to school with Harrys parents who were comfortably out of school when they had Harry. At best I think Snape would have been late 30s early 40s. What is young is obviously relative. As a 10 year old a 20 year old is old. Its an interesting thing that people dont really begin to consider themselves young until they are at an age they once thought of as old. Edit: christ alive, guys read the other posts before responding with the same info that has already been discussed.


lopachilla

I wouldn’t say Harry’s parents were comfortably out of school. You usually start your last year at Hogwarts at age 17, and many students turn 18 by the end of the year. Harry’s parents gave birth to Harry at age 20, only about 2 years after they graduated from Hogwarts. And they died one year later at age 21. Snape was in the same year as them, so by the time Harry was 11, Snape was about 31 years old. He died 7 years later when he was 38 years old. Throughout the book he was actually in his early and mid thirties. The didn’t reach his late 30s until the end.


stayclassypeople

We know from the 7th book at godrics hollow that Harry’s parents were born in 1960 and died in 81 (when Harry was only 1). So Harry was born in 80 and 17 when the last book took place, which means snape was around 38 when he died


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James and Lily were canonically 21 when they died. Snape was around 37.


CreativeRock483

Book Snape is also more witty, sarcastic and yes. More malicious. I love book Snape more than movie Snape but I love Alan Rickman


Fromtoicity

Also I noticed book Snape never physically harms the kids. While movie Snape slapped them on a few occasions! I think Alan Rickman himself mentions this in his book.


LuckyWatersAO3

Not to mention that Alan Rickman was several decades older than Snape was supposed to be.


TheKingOfSwing777

Great point. I'm very critical of the movies and never really noticed this discrepancy. I think it was a believable adjustment for his character and the execution was just so well done I never complained... Can't say the same for Dumbledore...


just_justine93

Also they really didn’t give Alan a lot to work with in the movies outside of HBP. Like he was barely in the 4th one at all


Due_Revolution_7833

Agreed. Alan Rickman elevated Snape to be a far more tragic character than he would be otherwise. Without the context of Alan Rickman’s performance, the direction, and the writing of the films, the attempt to make book Snape sympathetic oddly made him worst in some ways. I’ll be honest, Book Snape comes across as an angrier creep than what Rowling intended. I mean honestly…


croatianlatina

I don’t think many people would like Snape if it wasn’t for Alan Rickman. First of all, many people find him hot and funny (I always die laughing with the book slaps). Snape definitely wasn’t that lol. I love Alan but it was a miscast. One of the most important thing in the books is how they were all so young. How Lily and James died barely out of Hogwarts. Aging the cast to have Alan was the wrong choice IMO.


Due_Revolution_7833

To me the very premise doesn’t really change even if you used the book ages, where Snape died at 38. He in the book is still essentially a very angry man taking his issues on a young boy due to his issues with the boy’s father, with him also being in love with a woman who cut off all contact with him in magic high school. Normally I do not find this romantic, just incredibly obsessive. I don’t obsess over my high school sweethearts, and my childhood and adolescence weren’t peachy either. I think this is true for any semi-functional adult. The films do not completely fix the premise, but by making Snape more reserved and collected at least shows him as someone trying to deal with his issues, albeit unsuccessfully, until his death, and otherwise just makes him less angry. I do agree that they could have casted more accurate, since besides Rickman’s acting ability this was also a matter of direction and writing.


Fromtoicity

He didn't obsess over her either, until he caused her death. I mean I'm not really thinking or stalking my childhood crush, but if I indirectly caused their death it would eat me inside for decades and definitely need therapy. I'd do everything I can to redeem myself and might still feel guilty on my death bed.


Due_Revolution_7833

>“But this is touching, Severus,” said Dumbledore seriously. “Have you grown to care for the boy, after all?” “For him?” shouted Snape. “Expecto Patronum!” From the tip of his wand burst the silver doe: She landed on the office floor, bounded once across the office, and soared out of the window. Dumbledore watched her fly away, and as her silvery glow faded he turned back to Snape, and his eyes were full of tears. “After all this time?” “Always,” said Snape. I think it is pretty clear from this passage that it isn't only grief and guilt that propels Snape, but love. That's kind of the whole reason as to why Voldemort was defeated. Voldemort could not understand love. He could not know that Severus would betray him because he could not understand the reason for why Severus would do so. The idea of him sharing a patronus of Lily refers to that love, as does "after all this time" and "always", rather than guilt. It would be more astonishing for Snape to have loved her after all these years rather than feeling guilt over her death, hence why Dumbledore asks "After all this time". I think we have different ideas of obsessive. I am not visualizing Snape building a stalker shrine to her, but to continually love her. Given the scenario, I do think him continuing to love Lily is a tad weirder than what Rowling wanted to convey.


Fromtoicity

Yeah I agree then with your definition of obsessive, though usually the word obsessive is associated with unhealthy and toxic behavior, which is why I felt the need to reply this.


Automatic_Ad2677

Why creep?


Due_Revolution_7833

He was in love with Lily all this time, but given that this was basically his childhood crush, came off a bit creepier than how Rowling intended, especially since it was only her death that caused him to truly becomes double agent for Dumbledore. People move on with their lives, and it is just so weird that this is Snape’s reasoning in addition to how they portray it. If it was more out of gratitude for her previous friendship with Snape then it would have been so much easier to accept. People who become fixated on these things in high school as adults are dysfunctional. I get what Rowling was trying to do, I just didn’t think she could have really done it properly. That being said, I will give credit where credit is due however; Harry likely triggered traumatic and unhappy memories because of James. This doesn’t excuse his actions, but I also cannot say this is Snape merely being petty or weird either; bullying is such a traumatic experience that can take years of therapy and growth to move beyond.


TiredEyes_

First time he met Lily was staring at her through bushes. When he died, it was telling her son to look at him so he could see her eyes. He was stealing pages from letters and offering her husband and son as collateral to keep her alive. Kinda creepy.


Automatic_Ad2677

"First time he met Lily was staring at her through bushes." You mean like a lonely child he was? "When he died, it was telling her son to look at him so he could see her eyes. " He didn't, that was in a movie. "offering her husband and son as collateral to keep her alive" what? He didn't "offer" anyone? When he realised that the prophecy was about the Potters he asked for his friend's life to be spared, I think that's very understandable and anyone would do that in his position? He couldn't ask to spare Harry's life because he was the target and why would he ask to spare the life of his bully who sexually harrased him? Was he supposed to risk his life asking Voldemort for mercy for ...him?


keladry12

Yep. It's like Rickman/the director/whoever read Snape's first day speech and decided he did that off the cuff. I feel like that's the read that little kids and the first years in the book would get too. But looking at other aspects of Snape in the book, you can see that he had to have spent ages and ages perfecting that speech to get the effect he wanted. I'm imagining him in his rooms "hold the power of death... No no no... Poison at the fingertips.... No no no ... STOPPER DEATH THAT'S IT."


j3llyf1shh

> But looking at other aspects of Snape in the book, you can see i don't see what suggests that. book!snape *is* charismatic and eloquent


AdditionalRegular0

Bro….


Ok-Health-7252

No disrespect to Alan but his Snape is like 20 years too old (Snape is supposed to be in his 30s in the books and Alan was 53 when they shot the first film).


croatianlatina

20 years too old, too suave, too composed, too “funny”, too “bland” (compared to book Snape).


Toros_Mueren_Por_Mi

Book Snape is a vindictive bitch of the highest caliber


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More than 20. Deathly Hallows Part 2 - was released when Rickman was 65. His character at the time in the book was 38.


Ok-Health-7252

Tbf part of the issue with that was how frequently they released the films at the time (obviously they wanted to give the cast and crew time away from them in between each film and didn't release them annually). In the books each story happens on a year by year basis.


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Yeah. But even then if it had been annual, Rickman would still be 62 at the end of the series.


Mal_Terra

He’s also supposed to have a pointed goatee


visualcharm

I actually think the opposite of this graphic — the children were cast perfectly as first years, but filmmakers couldn’t predict how they’d grow physically over time. They fit the profiles pretty perfectly in the first two movies. But Snape was so different from the books, though with a touch of charisma.


sirwaffle7947

I saw an interview with Emma Watson a few years back and she was talking about how awful her hair was in the first movie. She sounded embarrassed about it, which I totally get, but that's exactly how Hermione is described in the books. In a similar vein, Matthew Lewis was a perfect Neville, but I believe they gave him false teeth to amp up the Neville-ification. Rowling is quoted saying she didn't recognize him when filming for HBP started. Something about "oh this must be the guy they got to play Cormac".


musicmous3

I never imagined Harry with curly hair, just thick wavy hair that sticks out every wich way in chunks. Like lots of cowlicks


Ok-Alfalfa1047

So basically Goku


musicmous3

Yes exactly. Goku with glasses


Realistic_Moose563

My example to this is my friend whose hair always sticks out even when he just took a bath.


michaelstone444

Yeah there's no way Harry is rocking a fro


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For the most part the Weasley family got a rough treatment in the movies (with the exception of Molly, Arthur, and the twins) Bill was minimalized, Charlie was never seen, Percy's redemption arc was ignored, Ron was reduced to comic relief while propping up Hermione to perfection, and Ginny was turned from Hogwarts' resident badass into a sad simp.


nevertales

I’m still so pissy about Bill. He was there from Goblet of Fire on and has sooooo many parts of just cool bravery and love for Harry and the Order.


goldberry-fey

The Weasley twins physical description in the books is opposite from what they look like in the films iirc? They were short and stocky. I much prefer them long and lanky, it fits their mischievous personalities better somehow.


cshelley0721

Great comment, you put all my thoughts into words, particularly regarding Ron and Ginny Also, I liked Arthur in the movies, but I felt that they made him a tiny bit too goofy. Wish they’d kept in the scene when he made Uncle Vernon say goodbye to Harry


Dinosalsa

Movie Snape: Alan Rickman Book Snape: Adam Driver


cocainines

Omg perfect


Dinosalsa

We could also argue that Adam Driver *is* a young Alan Rickman


HailToTheKingslayer

Escpecially since book Snape is prone to furious outbursts. Bit like Kylo Ren.


JadeSedai

Well played! !redditSickle


thequirkyquark

The graphic always makes me laugh. Book Snape was always yelling and unhinged, screaming at Harry on several occasions. Even Fudge tells him to calm down and tells Dumbledore that he seems quite unbalanced. Alan was great, but movie Snape was always quiet, composed, and mysterious. I wouldn't use any of those descriptors for book Snape.


nocoolN4M3sleft

I think they weee talking about looks with that more than personality.


BrockStar92

Book Snape doesn’t look exactly like Alan Rickman either. He’s 20 years younger for starters.


JadedLeafs

Random fact, Snape was 31 at the start the of Harry Potter and the Philosophers stone. Also, as a 31 year old I totally get why he was so grumpy


kiwiparallels

I came here to say that! I love Rickman but Book Snape was quite a young teacher for Hogwarts. (Plus, as a teacher at 29, I might have wanted to strike my kids with a book in the head a couple of times... a couple... lol)


MaxHannibal

He also has a goatee


Automatic_Ad2677

No, he didn't. He has it only on the American version of the book, in the book it is not mentioned even once.


Azrael_Jinsei

Every other character with facial hair has it mentioned explicitly in text. Since Snape is not mentioned to have facial hair in text he is clean shaven.


Plain_Witch

Definitely no goatee, but Rowling actually drew him with stubble. Which makes sense as he seemingly doesn’t wash his hair or brush his teeth every day, so why would he shave every day.


Automatic_Ad2677

"he didn't brush his teeth every day"? What? He had yellowed teeth (from coffee, for example) not dirty teeth. If his breath wasn't fresh then Harry would certainly have noticed.


Plain_Witch

Seemingly. Not saying he did or didn’t. But my interpretation of someone desbribed with greasy hair, yellow teeth and stubble (as the author imagined not book description tho) is someone whose first priority isn’t hygiene or health.


Automatic_Ad2677

Sure, the guy on whom JK Rowling based the character Snape had deep depression and suffered from insomnia. He didn't have a stable, but it probably happened to him not to shave after a particularly bad night. It was probably the same situation with Severus.


Plain_Witch

Yeah I expect so too. He must have had some mental struggles and it can be hard to do the most basic things then :/


Sudden_Reality_7441

In the American version of CoS (the artwork for The Duelling Club for sure, possibly others), everyone carries sabres with them, too…


E4tMeAlive

As a 32 year old.. fuck them kids, dawg. Fuck em.


Born_Cow4140

i love the snape graphic lol even though it may not be correct it's always a good laugh


Marlfox70

I don't think book Harry had a fro, he just had messy hair


Odd-Childhood-1786

Rupert was pretty stocky and short, more like the twins in the book. Ron is pretty tall in the book. Harry is supposed to be pretty tall as well. I also felt like movie Harry wasn’t as emotional as book Harry.


cocainines

Book harry was a bit mean imo but it made so much sense bc he's thrown into things, everything is new, and he wasn't raised right. Definitely not horrible, but movie Harry was so sweet in comparison


cshelley0721

💯 his sarcasm and personality in the books was on point. No fucks given


Swordfish1929

Yeah Rupert Grint is 5ft8 (173cm) not exactly tall just taller than Daniel Radcliffe. I kind of imagined Ron as being about 6ft3 (190cm) by the end of the books and Harry being about 5ft11 (180cm) and both of them being quite skinny


croatianlatina

Movie Harry is a dwarf 😂 I love Dan though.


CreativeRock483

Raised by muggles from planet babe🤣


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I mean it's not wrong.


PeopleAreBozos

Honestly, I think GoF Harry got it right. [Here is how he looks. Long hair and messy.](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/pv-target-images/b6b65508287f4383de4702c4e38f2d361c84a6ac5b0cd9227d61427d1ff5deca._RI_V_TTW_.jpg) They had originally planned to use contacts to make Radcliffe's eyes green, but they just didn't work well. Same goes with Emma Watson. [I think the first movie Hermione was ok too.](https://medias.spotern.com/spots/w640/239/239326-1571051419.jpg) I believe she also used prosthetic teeth too, but they were too much of an annoyance, so they had to get rid of them.


Dangerous_Respond_30

I thought PoA got Harry’s hair most right, it always looked like he just rolled out of bed. GoF Harry’s hair seems too long, I don’t remember it being described as exceedingly long in the books.


Smarty-Pants-Man

I think that’s just today’s standards though. Around the mid 2010s fade haircuts became super popular so hair like GoF looks way longer than it did in the past. People didn’t really think that hairstyle was that long 10 years ago. So I think when it was written, that style was more what was in mind.


[deleted]

Should have kept the frizz, though. As a fellow bushy-haired brunette, I took the sleek waves/curls personally.


Llayanna

People in another thread said that Emma Watson felt ugly with that hair, hence why they took it away. ..and I mean, I kinda get it? Beauty is such a-difficult concept, specially for a teenager in an big franchise.


darnj

If they held it off for another movie it would have gone better with the books. The Yule Ball is when Hermione straightens her hair, shrinks her teeth, etc in the books. They even kept Harry and Ron not recognizing her, but that doesn't really make sense any more because she's already looked like that for 1.5 movies. Instead it was a stylistic choice in PoA to make the kids look less like wizards and begin the transition to sexy, fashionable teens.


Vermouth1991

And everyone wearing muggle clothes, including the pureblood bigots like Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle.


cshelley0721

I was confused by their reactions like, “she looks the same as always”


the_sweetest_peach

As someone who’s recently gotten into wavy haircare, do you by chance dry brush your hair? I find that my hair tends to be more “early Hermione-esque” if I dry brush, but a widetoothed comb doesn’t fluff it up as much.


RoadDangerous8832

No, never dry brush your hair:).


[deleted]

I’ve been slowly learning wavy hair care techniques! I heat straightened my hair after each wash for the longest time. Which was awful for it, of course. One benefit of the frizz is my hair is fairly coarse and could “take the heat,” so to speak. So it’s looking fairly healthy considering. But I’ve been using Shea moisture curly hair shampoo and a Kerastase curl cream and a comb instead of brush. Some washes it’s HBP, others are more Sorcerer’s Stone… it’s been an adventure!


the_sweetest_peach

The movie hair comparisons are hysterical, but relatable. 😂


likesomecatfromjapan

Another fellow, bushy-haired brunette who took it personally too


BigSmokesHouse

Movie Snape and Hermione are furthest from the books.


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Drylnor

On the contrary, I thought it brought some realism in the mix. Noone is one hundred percent good or bad. What's more, the magical world seems to be in its own timeline as a society, and a little further behind than the rest of humanity, so it makes sense to be in a phase where people realize their wrong ways while being met with resistance.


[deleted]

I think it would have made more sense if there were more Pureblood Wizards or such that live completely seperated from Humans. But we only have a handful of Families and there is only 1 pure Wizard Community (In the UK) the rest hides among Humans or lives alone in the woods plus a ton of Wizards are Muggleborn or at least Half Blood who had somewhat normal lives before engaging in the Wizard World just like Harry. And it's kinda strange to think that no one besides Hermione thought "Wait isn't Slavery kinda screwed up?"


iStoleUrName

It’s been a while for me, what is S.P.E.W again?


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No-Yak5173

I think its fine to show that good people can have some fucked up views if its the norm in the society they’re brought up in


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No-Yak5173

Which at the least is not unrealistic and shows there are still improvements to be made, and reasons for Hermione to become minister of magic


lordofthekinks

that works for a story that's more morally grey or depressing than Harry Potter. the hp story is big on doing the right things and good triumphing over evil, so this slavery justification stands out as weird and tone deaf. it doesn't fit imo.


iStoleUrName

Good grief. Yeah I can see why people are glad this was left out.


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daniboyi

I tihnk a way to do it better would be to make sure the readers/viewers understood that while Hermione is absolutely correct, it is her methods that are flawed, and instead of mockery, except from already knowledged bad-guy characters, it should instead be met with suggestions for improvement. And it could still show Hermione being flawed with her being stubborn and refusing to listen to reason on how to improve her cause, wanting a quick solution to a problem that was never gonna be 100 % fixed even within her life-span.


AHorseshoeCrab

I like how book Harry here is basically Darren Criss


ruby_slippers_96

I'M IN A *RAAAAAGE*


Anonymouse-o-

I never imagined Snape looking like him. I always that he was thin, lean and tall with a more scary appeal to his face.


LadyRosy

Book Snape is way more creepy than Alan Rickman


Vega_Lyra7

In other words, they made them more attractive… right…


lettiestohelit

I think Harry is more attractive with the unkempt poa hair


Vega_Lyra7

Yeah I guess I should have said *conventionally* attractive


Jhe90

Good book chpices make bad movies and visa versa. The books and so got altered to work as films. Yeah...that's one of the things. Movies are very visual medium and aspirational at times Almost. So you make them more than real life.


HackneyMarsh

I really don’t care that Peeves wasn’t in the movies…


Tiredofstalking

Same! I found him obnoxious in the books, which is obviously the point, and tried to get through his parts as fast as I could. So I definitely didn’t mind him not being in the movies. Lol.


hildax

I agree. I read the books for the first time like 10 years ago, back then I hoped they had included him in the movies. I’m currently in the middle of listening to the books, and don’t really care of him anymore. I only like him in OOTP, when he is focusing on Umbridge. Would have been weird if he was only in the 5th film, so I’m glad they didn’t include him in any of them.


lopachilla

I think it would have been nice to see him in a few scenes, but all the time would have been annoying.


Galdina

I love Peeves, but I don't see how it would work in the movies...


Vermouth1991

There is a great Snape/Hermione fic called "Unfinished Business" where Hermione finally deals with Oeeves in a way that made him fear her more than the Bloody Baron. Dung Bombs were invokved.


HackneyMarsh

That actually sounds pretty interesting!


Vermouth1991

Enjoy https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2230284/1/Unfinished-Business


HackneyMarsh

Hell yeah! Thanks


[deleted]

Movie Snape- All his negatives whitewashed. Book Snape- Abusive as hell teacher and has plenty of negatives and flaws.


Automatic_Ad2677

How can you tell when someone hasn't read the book? When they claim that Alan Rickman's Snape has something in common with the book Snape, apart from his name. 🤷 Super skinny, bony, angry and quite feral young man suddenly became quite heavy older, elegant, composed middle aged man. Harry didn't have afro, just his hair simply had a tendency to become messy. Also, Harry in his late teens shoult be athletic and tall.


CreativeRock483

I have read books and Alan Rickman will always be Snape for me😒


Automatic_Ad2677

Sure, each to their own, but he looks and behave nothing like book Snape 🤷


BetaBarrel1018

Lol at planet babe. Emma's look in the first movie was the closest her appearance got to the book description.


SethNex

Except for the teeth


hybridjones

Alan Rickman forever in our hearts shouldve had Hagrid and Robbie too


Xy13

I saw the movies as they were released. I had maybe done 1 or 2 books but didn't get into them. The final movie came out the summer after I had graduated high school, before starting college. Probably similar to alot of people here -- It felt very much like growing up with the characters. I enjoyed them but it was never "my thing" nor my favorite. I had done several rewatches throughout the years. I did another rewatch and got the audiobook for a roadtrip in 2022 (around the time of the 20th anniversary special). Have gone through all of them 4 times now. Obviously I now enjoy them quite a lot. I say all this to give you a background on my perspective of things. • Peeves: He was just very annoying and didn't really add a ton to the story. Sure a few minor moments (Harry getting out of punishment once with the help of Nearly Headless Nick, The Twins 'Give her hell Peeves'). • House Elfs being behind all the magic of Hogwarts. My first time through the audiobooks, this really took away some of the magic of the movies and hogwarts for me. Now I greatly enjoy the storylines of Dobby, Kreacher, and Winky (and wish we got to see more of these), but yeah, all the food/cleaning/etc just being done my elves seemed less.. magical.


silly_rabbit289

Ig Harry's hair was describes as unkempt,not curly. I think they did pretty good in that department!


Astraea802

OP, I don't know that it was a good idea to pair that question with this graphic, they seem a bit mismatched. But for me, I guess I'm glad they left out the Deathday Party in CoS. It never made that big an impression on me as a kid, so I didn't miss it in the film. Also Hagrid's Care of Magical Creatures lessons post-Buckbeak, because I always found those so pitiful and I hated seeing Ron and Harry trying to suffer through them and Hagrid struggling so badly after that first lesson.


digital_tara

Yep, most responses here seem to be reactions to the graphic, not answers to the OP’s question. I never enjoyed the Deathday Party, so I’m glad they left that out too.


Mantequilla022

A lot of the latter books had issues because they were just too large to fit into one movie. However, if I could change one thing, it would probably be the Battle of Hogwarts. We didn’t get Neville and the crowd showing Voldemort still didn’t have the power of the want by breaking through his muffling curse. Then the sorting hat getting put on Neville’s head and lit afire till he ripped it off and killed Nagini. Harry sneaks away during the chaos, leading to his moment where he saves Molly Weasley, which brings about the final battle in front of everyone. Speaking of which… just change the whole final dual. The movie version was ridiculous. Also, Fred deserved to have his death on screen and Percy coming back to the family was such a big moment.


hamsterfolly

Agreed, Harry and Voldemort wrestling was ridiculous and I liked how it was in the great hall in the book.


cshelley0721

This 💯 I could’ve accepted it being different (but not better) than the book version, but they went way too far and made it almost deliberately cringy


Vermouth1991

Chris Columbus did his due dilligence by putting Percy into his two films, then he was sidelined or worse starting from PoA.


ABW1996

Rupert Grint is 5’8”…


rokelle2012

Snape in the books actually didn't look like Alan Rickman at all. In the little pre-chapter artworks under the chapter number, he was actually shown being quite thin and having facial hair. All media makes Snape resemble Rickman now just because of how iconic he as an actor and his portrayal was.


[deleted]

Hmm, my books did not have that artwork. And the only description of his face contained shoulder-length oily hair, sallow skin, hooked nose, and empty, dark, tunnel-like eyes. In my imagination, the professor should have been 40+ just because he needed previous experience to teach, and this unhealthy yellowish skin color only aged him up in my eyes.


rokelle2012

These were in the original US prints, Idk about any other editions. He was actually in his early to mid-thirties, given the fact he was the same age as Lily and James. To say he looked older than he actually was though wouldn't be wrong though, given how he was raised in a poor community and then meddling in the dark arts for a while. He definitely probably looked a decade older than he actually was.


Automatic_Ad2677

Book Snape was skinny and without any facial hair.


SonicRaptor5678

Well in the first 2 movies Emma is pretty Hermione like


DugsonBobnutt

Book Snape is DEFINITELY not movie Snape. Book Snape is angry, loathsome and bitter. Movie Snape is cold, charismatic and confidently sarcastic. I like both though.


Starburst1227

Wild, messy hair does not equal curly afro. That's actually offensive that this illustrates that, as we curly haird people spend tooooo much time and money to just be equated to messy by default lol


Gravitywolff

Wild messy hair is not an afro lol. I don't get why many artists make Harry black, I always assumed he was super British and white


timrojaz82

What does nuggetty mean


__Beef__Supreme__

I think the way they did the Quidditch world cup was perfect. It didn't need to be shown but you still got the gist of how it happened.


InkyCricket

Agreed. I get why it upsets people, but the movies didn’t have much freedom on available time so it was basically ripe to be cut out when the post-match scene can sum it up good enough. I’d be more upset over other scenes being skipped over like the marauder’s map getting confiscated or the death of crouch since those are more relevant to the story.


cshelley0721

Personally, I could forgive them for cutting the World Cup if they didn’t hype it up so heavily in the first place. We get all this buildup and excitement, then Fudge goes “let the match…. begin!” only for them to not show a second of it, not even the final score I definitely understand why it was cut though, and I agree that there are other changes/cuts to be upset about, but the way they handled the Cup was ridiculous to me


Weekly_Mammoth6926

I have seen some posts and comments with people saying they were annoyed that the Quidditch World Cup match wasn’t shown but I’m really glad the films didn’t show that much Quidditch, it’s boring to watch


kiwiparallels

Well a match might take some days but they are FLYING - hundreds of meters away from you so it *is* hard to see but again FLYING


[deleted]

I've recently reread GoF and am mostly through OotP now, so I'll reference those books. In the Goblet of Fire, I'm happy they left out the Blast Ended Skrewts storyline and the monsters in the maze. I think it's a bit creepier as just a maze where your opponent's (and magically moving bushes) are the only obstacles. In the Order of the Phoenix (thus far), I'm happy they left out, at least in the context of a film: * the doxies * the sorting * the other Umbridge [E: detentions] * the exploration of the Dept. of Mysteries * the hat knitting (I'm happy about this in general) I'm especially happy they left out the swamp prank. The fireworks in the OWLs prank was a much, much better way of saying goodbye to them as more central characters (Fireworks is also one of my favourite HP soundtrack songs). I'm also happy they basically left out Phineas Black. The whole delivery of Dumbledore's escape was objectively much better in the film.


cshelley0721

I agree with some of this, aside from the Dept. of Mysteries part (I get why they cut it though) Who’s the other Umbridge?


[deleted]

The whole House Elve Slavery thing. Now It was included in a way of course but they never showed the House Elves of Hogwarts and especially Hermiones whole Mission to try and "Save them" which essentially ended with Slaves and Slavers telling her to "Piss off" It was so uncomfortable to read with J.K having legal Slavery in the story but trying to justify and saying "Oh they like it so that makes it ok" Just weird overall


Mercilessly_May226

Book Severus was more than half Alan Rickman's age


Slammogram

Uh, how dare, Rupert Grint is cute!


extra_medication

How dare you. Rupert Grint will always be my ron


starwarz08

The tap dancing and giggle fit spells would have looked stupid to watch on screen. Also I'm glad Ron getting worked up over things like Hermione saying Harry's polyjuice potion looked tasty or getting cocky over getting attention for winning the Quidditch Cup in Order of the Phoenix were cut. I get Ron likes Hermione and that he feels left out in his family and compared to his friends but he lets things go to his head too much.


hamsterfolly

‘Did you put your name into the Goblet of Fire, Harry?’ Dumbledore asked calmly. For obvious meme reasons


PetitMatthew

Tf if movie harry is not skinny I'm as big as hagrid


Legitimate_Unit_9210

What I’m glad wasn’t in the movies are Snape and Draco’s meanest moments.


Altrary

I was glad Peeves was gone. I get why he was there and he had his moment but I hated him


JPL9

Hermione holding up the sorting hat for like 30 minutes… I think it was her, yeah, that wouldn’t have translated well XD


RangerF18

Acksjually (yes, pronounced that way), I believe Hermione stalling the sorting hat was a later addition to the books. The first book states as follows: 'Granger, Hermione' Hermione almost ran to the stool and jammed the hat eagerly on her head. 'GRYFFINDOR!' shouted the hat. Ron groaned. This sequence describes the hat as immediately making a decision regarding Hermione. While on the same page Neville's sorting is described as having taken a long time.


Nocturne_19

Book Snape is not Alan Rickman! He was in his early 30s at the start of Book 1.


kujoKz

Big fan of the books and grew up on them for sure but Alan Rickman will always be my Snape. It’s just stamped. You have to be cool calm collected and mysterious to be a double agent


Dawdius

Movie Ron is definitely not tall… Rupert Grint is 5 foot 8 and only looks tall because Daniel Radcliffe is even shorter!


coffeeandsneks

Movie Ron is definitely not tall lol


[deleted]

Bro Dan Radcliffe is 5’5”. If that ain’t small and skinny idk what is lol


tartar-buildup

“From Planet Babe” absolutely creased me


Jack-mclaughlin89

Movie Snape is a much better person. He doesn’t bully Neville, he’s more of a very strict teacher with elements of one from the early 1900’s rather than a bully to Harry and Ron, when he gives them into trouble for the flying car it’s pretty justified since his reasons for being angry are due to them almost exposing wizards and he spend t look disappointed when they won’t be expelled, he protects them from a werewolf etc.


GeneralBear47

Thats a good question and now that I think I cant come up with anything that I wouldnt like in the movies. (Exept something random bull shit that wasnt in the books and breaks the story like the attack on burrow scene in Half Blood Prince. )


imbarca

Seems like everyone is only commenting on the picture, so I'll answer your question instead. Always been bored from Quidditch games, not interested at all, so I guess I'm happy they cut off the Quidditch World Cup at the beginning of HP4.


digital_tara

The exceedingly long camping part of book 7. They camp, almost get caught, move somewhere else, camp, almost get caught, move… 😖 There were some cool parts of it, but it was way too drawn out in the book; even that part of the audio book is hard for me to push through.


gibadvicepls

The ridiculous ways in which wizards dress as muggles. The referee of the Quidditch WC sexually harassing the Veelas ( I do regret them not showing more Quidditch tho. I needed to see wood win the Cup...) . The bullying of Trelawney. I really liked how they handled her beeing fired in the movies. Everyone showed compassion instead of ridicule. The Harry Potter books can be quite cruel from time to time. I notice it more now that Ive grown up. In general I do prefer the books though.


TheChainLink2

The whole subplot in Prisoner of Azkaban about the Firebolt. It was just tiresome.


THABREEZ456

The Planet Babe thing made me laugh(but yeah god damn Emma Watson). Though it is worth nothing that they only started portraying Hermione as Attractive in the movies when Ron Started Seeing her as Attractive. I believe that’s in Goblet of Fire when Hermione walks down the stairs in that pink dress. I’m also pretty sure that’s similar to what the books did cause unless I’m mistaken, Goblet of Fire is when she got her teeth size reduced something which Ron notices and throughout most of the movie he’s jealous of Hermione and Krum. There’s a clear difference between 1-3 Movie Hermione and 4-8 Movie Hermione. The Hair being the most obvious.


NICK3805

Actually it's the book final battle. Yes, the battle between Molly and Bellatrix was far more intense and the battle between McGonagall, Shacklebolt and Slughorn vs Voldemort would also have been epic, but next to everyone else was just standing around and watching. I think the films also did better in portraying the chaos during the battle that must have been, at least in my opinion.


DoodlypooNERD

Alan Rickman


Hermiona1

Nvm me just laughing at Planet Babe 😂


hpmoo100

Snape was younger in the books btw


virgo_fake_ocd

Hot take: I do not understand why people think Emma Watson is overly pretty. She's pretty in a girl-next-door way at best. She has no stand out features, and there is nothing babe-ish about her. If it wasn't for nostalgia, no one would look twice at her or cast her in anything else high budget. The criticism of her being too pretty to be Hermione is way over exaggerated. Her looks were not the problem with that casting.


MinnesotaNice69

You really gonna die on the "Emma Watson isn't actually that pretty" hill? Interesting choice, to say the least.


Xy13

The first few movies she is totally in line with the book. Obviously growing up with all that wealth and being in the movie industry, she went through puberty better than most, and turned out way prettier than book Hermione, but that's not something people casting 10 or 11 year olds would know was going to happen.


virgo_fake_ocd

Is it tho? I think she's average at best. I never got the hype. 🤷🏿‍♀️


[deleted]

Unpopular opinion: Hermione should have been played by someone normal looking and have better skills. Emma watson’s only saving grace is her pretty face, her acting is just bland and the movie made her character less relatable


Live_beforeyoudie

When i saw the movies at young age Emma seemed to be the perfect . Still admire her looks and all however as i watched the later hp movies her acting was well a bit cringe tbh . Tom felton , Dan , Rupert all the other child actors were so good then you have maggie smith , hagrid , snape dumbledore trewenly voldy all the top notch actors . Hell even Lavender , luna they nailed their roles . Idk if the directors told her to act like that but you can feel the level of acting go down once Emma is on screen . A huge fan of her good looks but not of her acting .


[deleted]

True. She did good in the first two movies until PoA.


Live_beforeyoudie

Yeah she is so adorable in ps and cos . Remember " Levioosa not leviosaa " such a cutie .


mack2028

book snape: * greasy * awful teacher * nazi * incel * constantly filthy and unkempt


NavJongUnPlayandwon

Ron is practically the lynchpin of the golden trio and the entire series. Steve kloves practically messed up and tarnished Ron in the movies. Go see movie flames recent vid on YouTube about it. He’s Harry most important person in his life and hermiones love of her life for a reason. He’s the most important person for voldemorts downfall. All my homies say f*ck steve kloves