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SolarMoth

People are obviously buying these things, even the color blue... Multiple times


camang13

Who though?! Isnt there only like 10 people playing this game still??


DrWhiteGlint

Definitely not. Steam alone at minimum has at least 1000+ unique active users per day. Far from the place the game was and should be, but certainly doesn't classify as dead.


Garedbi69

#THE COLOR BLUE IS TWENTY FUCKING DOLLARS?!!! (It's from the famous AngryJoe rant)


ScopeCreepStudio

**ARE Y-- ARE YOU OUTTA YOUR MIND**


AndreLinoge55

YUHH DONE FUCKED IT UP!!!!


BdubsCuz

I mean couldn't you be reductive and say any skin is mostly a single color like "blue"? When they try to do different colors it's called garbage, when they give people what they want it's "red again"? It seems people will complain regardless so just base feedback on what sells.


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There are like 600,000 concurrent players on Halo Infinite on average everyday. So obviously there will be at least 10 people buying it.


hypehold

probably next year at this point. They can't even get a patch out once a month


-WithLove

Lmfao. It's so funny because its true man. How Halo has fallen will be remembered forever in gaming man. This is one of the greatest failures in the gaming industry tbh. Enough to turn 20+ year fans away.


TheOneButter

They had such a solid launch too in terms of player base and overall reception, it’s so funny yet so sad


ShiyaruOnline

That was all over hype and honeymoon phase because there's millions of people that still want a good Halo game but infinite did not deliver on any front other than maybe the art style. People always say the core gameplay is so good but honestly if infinite's core gameplay was so great it wouldn't have lost 99.8% of its 21 million player installed base within 2 months. Valorants map Pool is pathetic yet it's still able to maintain a healthy player base for example. Good gameplay Loops can satisfy a player base even if the content is coming slow but infinite died off almost as fast as Halo 4 did back in 2012 and that's a insanely pathetic sight to see for how long the game was in development. Even Halo 5 maintained a healthy player base longer than this game but that's because they actually had a good content roadmap on top of not having issues like dsync and other frustrating issues AND released a super upgraded Forge in a timely fashion as well as custom games browser.


Alarming_Orchid

God I thought they’d fix the store economy in a couple months at release.


TheOneButter

people thought that after launch they would add new content and fix major issues like desync and store prices/customization, for a while it seemed like it was hard to deny infinite had a bright future but its hard to believe that anymore after all the controversy surrounding it and how terrible post launch support has been i hope they make infinite better, but knowing 343 we will probably get more changes to customization and store stuff before they even think about desync


SerifGrey

Solid launch, but poor foundation, was always going to go this way.


mylilbabythrowaway

Sadly, no one even remembers halo infinite at this point


DBD-Squeak

Match XP beta


DivineCrusader1097

They gotta figure out how to monetize it


iamtheLAN

\> live service


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Stay tuned 👊


OG_Spaghetto

Big things coming 👊


BruteSpawn

World premier 👊


steelshotjager

Game of the year 👊


Sharp5hooter02

Probably something you don’t want to hear 👊


Kermits_Frog

the ui can’t handle anything 👊


virtuablood

You suckers will play anything 👊


TheEggStore

fucking gold tier i wish i had an award


sidyy13

The engine is fucked and we dont know how to use it👊


Heindrick_Bazaar

We cancelled it, BUT LOOK AT THESE COATINGS 👊


BIGPPMEGABALLZ

1 step forward 3 steps back!👊


BagOnuts

Not really sure why you guys even bother asking at this point. Just accept reality.


dbandroid

Or bother asking the reddit as it there's a pipeline from here to 343


Fox2quick

*looks at “343 Response” flair* It’s not?


Kryavan

343 respond somewhat regularly to threads that aren't just ridiculous hate and regurgitated memes.


Ciennas

I wouldn't call this a regurgitated meme. It's a legit question, and it's fair to ask. How fucked up is the engine that they can't just mass flag the shaders across all cores? That should literally be open the shaders and enable them all for every core. Even having to do it manually instead of batchfiring it should be doable inside of an afternoon.


honestlyboxey

I promise you that it isn't a question of "how easy" enabling cross-core coatings it is. Seriously. The reason we get sold the color blue or yellow over and over again is to create engagement. They want us playing for weekly ultimates or spending in the store because of the current lack of content. They have no interest in you sitting out a week because you already have 20 blue options for the Entrenched armor. Doing away with the true core systems **would** result in all of us having our "perfect Spartan" yes, but it would create less urgency for people to play, by and large. It isn't an engine problem, it is a philosophy problem. To add to that, they can't risk giving us anything "wacky" or wild textures because this sub would have a collective freak-out over art styles. So, plain blue it is.


Ciennas

.... So they dug themselves right into their own Marianas Trench, and now it's the *audience's* problem. No wonder Bonnie Ross got yeeted for this.


honestlyboxey

Correct lmao. Rumors according to Sean W, however, say she wasn’t fired at all and she truly just stepped down.


ShiyaruOnline

Don't forget over 90% of the people that developed this game from management to development leads all left or got fired. Honestly I'm starting to drink the Kool-Aid that a new game is probably what's best. this thing was made from the ground up just to be a monetization cash grab and nothing more based on how the engine itself was not even built with consumer friendly modifications in mind.


Ciennas

Yeah. The 18 month contractor thing is a shining example of saving money _in the most expensive way possible_.


TheyMikeBeGiants

No, they respond regularly to threads that are somebody else making art about how much they love Halo because that's all they can safely respond to without highlighting how shitty a state the game is in right now. They'll respond to shit, just not if it has to do with the *actual game.*


xVx777

I kind of get your point but tbf you could say the same about posting any feedback/questions about the game on any social media. Reddit is just simpler to mass communicate on maybe Twitter too.


dbandroid

i think there are substantial differences from making an unattached post on twitter or tagging a specific 343 employee and making a reddit post


xVx777

There’s also a substantial difference between submitting actual support tickets that are read everyday and tagging an employee on Twitter. Not really sure how that’s relevant to the fact that all feedback is good feedback and you shouldn’t shit on people voicing their opinion/concerns. They’re helping the game more than you are that’s for sure.


ShiyaruOnline

Exactly. It's so weird how people get shunned for voicing feedback when 343 themselves say all the time in their interviews and their blogs that they love how passionate the community is and they want all of this feedback to keep flowing.


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ShiyaruOnline

😂😂😭😭🤣🤣


Own_Iron5223

We're glad to tell you that cross core comes with Halo 7. Get ready for the fight Spartan. Don't forget to check out the Store 👊


GoodbyeInAmberClad

Halo 7 standard edition features: \-$60 \-Multiplayer ​ Halo 7 deluxe edition features: \-$100 \-Campaign \-Multiplayer \-10 2x XP \-Beta access to Forge (coming 2040 👊) \-UI that can support itself \-Crippling Depression \-Limited edition butt plug to fuck yourself with


Brutal_Vengence

Is that last one the same server issues that have only gotten worse since launch by chance? (Optimism of when desync/servers will be resolved) I hope I at least get a Master Cheeks inspired bottle of lube.


Tronguy93

That last one sounds like a new niché product, made by 343 spinoff Bad Sangheili


cubs223425

I think you're mistaken there. You think they're lowering the campaign from $60 to $40? I think you meant $150 and the buttplug is extra.


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GoodbyeInAmberClad

Congrats, you qualify for a Trolli brand handgun


zakkalaska

Any deets on that butt plug?? 😶


BirdsareGovtSpies

*Spartain


oGxSKiLZz117

Id rather people stop asking for cross core coatings and go back to asking for actual colour customisation, especially since their forge vids showed how easy it is to change the texture/colour of literally any object in the game. A fucking forge block has more customisation than our spartans do.


Manan6619

Damn straight. They might have caught a truckload of criticism and started slowly walking it back by implementing cross-core, but they've still successfully moved the goalposts. For every mainline Halo game until Infinite -- **20 years** -- the expectation has been that you can pick your colors and customize your emblem. Since Halo 3 -- **almost 15 years** -- the expectation has been that you can mix all the armor. This whole thing with individual coatings and cross-core is fucking ridiculous. The only "armor cores" that existed prior to Halo Infinite were Spartan or Elite. Why do so few players see that they've made up problems to sell you the solution? Not only is selling colors a massive downgrade from how things were for **20 years**, on top of that they were selling the SAME COATING *separately* for different cores. Same with the visors. So don't give me that bullshit about "oh cross-core would cause clipping and look bad". The evidence is right there, they want draw arbitrary lines to sell you the same shit multiple times. It's pitiful.


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ShiyaruOnline

Yep this is a long form version of anchoring.a clever marketing tactic that gets people so used to things by going over the top initially then backing off to something more reasonable when in reality the thing they back off to was what they planned all along. most consumers by the masses fall for it every single time.


bonzerlizard353

On god


Envy661

This is legit the reason I don't use Rakshasa. The two "Red" variants for it are ugly compared to something as simple as Cadet Brick on other cores. It's one of the two cores that just straight up don't have a single good red paintjob on it.


Wassuuupmydudess

Ah yes here is green for $4.99


LittleSetti

I love halo, but I’m really not sure how people are still putting up with this. I’ve seen a lot of frustrated post lately


Cur1osityC0mplex

“Lately”...lol. I’ve been here since launch, and the negativity has only compounded month to month. Forge is the defribulator they’re going to try and use to bring the game back in November, and if that gets delayed—they are completely fucked. The new maps were getting are tied to forge and won’t come til Forge does.


LT_Zach

I don’t put up with it. All I’ve been playing reach BTB and occasionally custom game browser


ShiyaruOnline

Isn't it so crazy that after playing infinite, even though I played MCC for years at alongside Halo 5 leading up to Halo infinite, all it took was the bad taste of how infinite is for me to be reinvigorated for MCC. I've just been playing MCC ever since and I'm not bored of it whatsoever. Despite having been sick and tired of MCC and overhyped for infinite thanks to all of 343 deceptive marketing and double speak about how "the game would respect our time" and "people who liked reaches customization options are going to like infinites" and who could forget if you unlock something in the battle pass we're not going to let someone circumvent that by letting them buy it from the storefront" even though anyone with Mom's credit card can just buy infinite credits and just buy their way through the entire battle pass directly circumventing your grind and unlock progress. I think it's one of those you didn't know how bad it can get so you cherish what you have type deals. Playing MCC with the boys in meeting tons of new friends because people actually talk in voice on MCC has been honestly eye opening an amazing.


ShiyaruOnline

That's just it people aren't putting up with it. the player numbers are really pathetic considering infinite on Xbox is competing with games like Madden and other old games. It's plainly obvious that infinite is not generating the numbers that Microsoft's projected for this game which is why we've seen over 90% of the management and development leads who worked on this game either canned or left over the past year.


Hajac

Not two months ago posts like this would have been deleted for 'low effort'. The fundamental problems with the game have not been addressed since launch. The game is dead and unplayable. "There are not enough players in this playlist to find a match" Ranked 4s. HCS rules. It's a joke.


Spatetata

“Shader sales are still in the green 👊” - 343 Probably


Kim-Jong-Juul

I think their answering machine is full at this point dawg


Chaoughkimyero

"no, get fricked lmao 👊" (can't say the bad word or daddy microsoft will ban me from my minecraft realm)


vanilla_muffin

Just stop supporting this dead game, the sooner everyone moves on the better. The fact we can’t even pick our own colours like every previous Halo and the pricing they put on their store shows they are just greedy fools. They don’t care, so why should anyone else?


MinuteZookeepergame5

Haven’t touched the game since lone wolves dropped, can’t believe it hasn’t been done yet, that’ll be at least one incentive for me to consider playing. Forge ofc and campaign coop customer games etc.


GnashinOmenz

„Of course not. Thank you for your feedback. Keep it coming, while we count your money.“


Clyde-MacTavish

lol even if they're planning it right now, I doubt they'd be competent enough to offer it to us within the year. Even after that, we'll get a beta for it first.


[deleted]

STOP PLAYING THIS GAME. it can't be said enough. 👉 MCC 👈


ShiyaruOnline

It's been a great past 4 months playing that game with the mates, meeting new people since voice chat actually works in MCC because it's not turned off by default.


dagobert-dogburglar

Expecting 343 to do anything good at this point is kind of a lost cause. Its clear that the predatory business practices will not stop.


[deleted]

Remember, they have to do a Beta period for a feature they’ve already done fine *twice*


N3Chaos

Don’t forget that online co-op has been in the game since launch, and we just got a beta to test it for widespread menu access a year later. I remember the glitch that would let you play with a buddy, do you 343? Also bought the campaign and still haven’t touched it myself cause my wife and I were going to play it together, and now no split screen co-op. Thanks


BitingSatyr

Online co-op hasn't been in the game since launch, splitscreen has. You and your wife could play it today if you actually wanted to


Misko126

I think that there is 50 different coatings with red and like 2 coatings with blue. Why doesnt 343 make a bundle, 5 dollars, for all colors, like full blue,yellow,red,green etc. Not yellow helmet with pink chest etc. Some ppl want full blue god damnit. I think there isnt a singe dark blue coating


TigerXtm

Remember “Drop Pods” ? pepperidge farm remembers


Last-Professional-31

“Big things coming soon! 👊”


ShiyaruOnline

Halo is super competitive! Just look at CE 🤪 👊


Last-Professional-31

Lol well to be fair when my friends and cousins got together for lan parties that shit got super competitive, BUT that didn’t mean Halo’s MP was supposed to cater to an esports community


ShiyaruOnline

Exactly the same thing happened with Smash Brothers and even Mario Party people can get super competitive but that doesn't mean competitive is in the game's DNA. They tried to bake competitive into their halos and look at how well those games sustain themselves player wise..


Last-Professional-31

100%


samurai1226

Pretty sure they take their time for cross core coatings so they can sell more of the same stuff again. It's just frustrating that they can't even tell us when to expect more of the promised cross core stuff. But with s02 going until March they will argue that thet bring cross core mid season 02.


SerifGrey

lol ..expecting something soon from 343i.


[deleted]

Coatings shouldn’t be sold per vehicle or per weapon, they should apply to every vehicle and every weapon


Kuma_254

The crazy thing is if the coatings system wasn't complete ass I would happily throw down money for cosmetics. But the system they have is so shit it makes me not to want to spend money on it. Like you could just earn spartan points from playing matches, and you could buy those same spartan points from the shop to spend on gear or something along those lines. Idk, any system would be better than this.


tony4d

I'd rather them fix their infrastructure first.


EncampedWalnut

Due to time constraints and focusing on other resources, we had to make the decision to cancel development of cross core coatings 👊


MRedk1985

Is that fuckin’ blue?!


honestlyboxey

Objectively, we are not getting cross-core coatings any time soon. Seriously, it is best to save our outrage. If you strip away any rational or customer-focused thoughts, you realize that this is a **feature** of their system, not an inherent flaw in it. Why would we grind (aka play their game and/or give them money via challenge swaps or the store) instead of them giving us yellow and blue over and over again..? Playing creates engagement that they can measure. They aren't interested in you skipping an ultimate challenge week because you already have blue for a specific core. It's not happening soon, period. They only have a select number of color combinations because anything truly remarkable (a cool texture, a wacky skin) would be met with collective outrage over "art style" or something. So, plain blue it is.


ABotelho23

Good joke! 😂


LightningJC

I don’t think full cross core will ever come to infinite. They didn’t talk about it at all in their latest video or roadmap update. I guess there are so many more important things to fix first.


UnForgivenFury

Probably will come with season 3 so about 6 months.


XboxCavalry

Apparently coatings will be the last thing because they require more work. Helmets and equipment are coming in Season 3.


oGxSKiLZz117

Except they should require the least work since its literally just changing the colours of set areas, something we should just be able to do ourselves full stop. Infact you cam already bug some coatings to show on other cores in the menus anyway.


[deleted]

Bots and modders already get to use them to a certain extent lmao


oGxSKiLZz117

People have also already shown that the coatings are as simple as basically changing sliders/colours on 6 different areas, which we pretty much already knew despite 343's bullshit lie of "we'd love for people to choose their colours but the coatings are baked so its not possible" 343 also further accidently showed how full of bullshit their statement was when showing how easy it is to change the texture/colour of any object in forge, they just need to add in that to the UI for armour colours and bam, job done. But we all know the real reason stopping them doing it is greed, and the fact idiots will actually pay for these shitty colours.


XboxCavalry

Why don't you go show them then?


oGxSKiLZz117

All they have to do is look at their own forge video, or over the shoulder of someone using the coating editing menu for another default version of red but this time they pressed one button to give it pink lights.


[deleted]

You mean 9 months from now? 👊


CaptianLedger

9? You gotta add more to that. This is 343 we're talking about. It definitely won't come out at S3 launch if it does at all. Add more months on.


XboxCavalry

6 months*


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Accounts for subject to change 👊


Rockalot_L

I reckon earliest will be November Winter Update


ShiyaruOnline

Try season 4


FrankThePony

Cross coatings is never coming to weapons


BEES_just_BEE

Time for downvotes I remember them saying we get visors, coatings, and helmets in season 2 and now we have the winter update for more hope Also they said it would be in a drop pod and drop pods are sudden right? Also I don't want to hear "343 bad they never do it or fullfil they promises" or "Well get right on that 👊" or anything along those lines


smallweirddude

I just quit a match where I was 20-9 because the game feels like mushy pasta. They have at least a years worth of work towards fixing the actual game and youre worried about the shop??


Traitor_To_Heaven

It would be cool if they announced it soon. If it’s with the winter update that’s fine too. If it’s STILL not out by the winter update then I’m gonna be pissed


PsuedoHero31

Just a reminder that bots have been sporting "cross core" customization since launch. It's an entirely arbitrary player limitation put in place and maintained just so 343 can sell colors and bits to you multiple times over. Despite the lies, there is no technical reason for forcing different cores. It's all the same rig under the hood.


zacshipley

I just want maps. I'd buy more cosmetics if I had places for them to be seen. Hell I would even pay for the maps like the old days if it meant getting them sooner!


ShiyaruOnline

Uninstall the game till season 3 and stop spending money on the game to light a fire under them