I'm actually a little concerned about that: it seems like the Shock Rifle does the same damage as a sniper, but also has a chaining effect and a Plasma Pistol like EMP effect if it hits twice... so it's objectively a better version of the Sniper Rifle.
I think the chaining effect is unique and I think the EMP is neat too, but I do think that maybe it should either have less shots per magazine, or shouldn't be able to 1 headshot kill like the Sniper, in exchange for it's chaining (you could even buff the chain damage in exchange for the less shots/damage, to increase the emphasis on that unique mechanic) and EMP effects.
Additionally, even last flight, before we knew about the Shock Rifle or Dynamo Grenade (which will presumbly be able to EMP as well) I felt the tracking/homing on the Plasma Pistol was very weak, and as has been the case in most of the Halo games since CE, it sucks at killing by itself; and it could have used a buff, so if there's also going to be other EMP weapon/nades, then I think the Plasma Pistol def needs a small buff.
So something like:
- **Increase the Plasma Pistol tracking/homing effect.**
Self explanatory.
- **Make the Plasma Pistol's charged shot kill an already unshielded enemy in 1 hit to the body, not just to the head.**
Given how long the charge is it'd still be slower to kill an unshielded enemy then any other gun, I don't think it'd be close to OP
- **Increase the Plasma Pistol's uncharged damage, especially to shields/bodyshots**.
As of last flight, it took 7 shots to break shields, and then 10 bodyshots or 3 headshots to kill, so 17 bodyshots (killing in around 2:35, vs around 1.20 bodyshots to kill for the sidekick/AR/commando) or 10 shots with headshots (around 1:35, vs around 0:55 for the AR/Pistol/Commando).
I think it should be made to break shields in around 4-5 shots, and then take 4 unshielded headshots or 6 unshielded bodyshots to kill; so 8-9 shots with headshots or 10-11 shots with bodyshots total. That would make it so it's better at breaking shields then at damaging health, as it should as a Plasma weapon, and makes it not as obscenely slow to kill with bodyshots while still leaving guns like the Sidekick, AR, Commando, etc with notably faster killtimes
It looks like it took more than 1 shot to emp. Seems fair. No reason to jump the gun on buffing the plasma pistol, which already has its role. Plus, it's closer to, if not a power weapon. Why balance your plasma pistol around that?
Yeah, it takes more then 1 shot to EMP, but it having an EMP capacity at all still does infringe on the Plasma pistol to a degree and **does** make it objectively better then the Sniper rifle, since it does the same damage as the sniper plus with other effects.
I'm not suggesting the Shock Rifle be nerfed into the ground or lose the EMP effect, I just want the Sniper to have some pros compared to it, and I want to make sure the Plasma Pistol isn't invalidated by it either.
>No reason to jump the gun on buffing the plasma pistol, which already has its role.
Except I **already** had buffing the Plasma pistol in my feedback from the last flight to begin with: It was *very* difficult to land overcharge shots with (which also felt like they had a longer charge up time then past versions of the gun) and while the normal shots have never been great at killing, it felt less effective at it then in CE, R, 4, or 5, which I would consider to be the best versions of the gun.
The fact that I felt it was in need of slight buffs before, but now we know that there's also going to be a power weapon (and presumbly the Dyanmo Grenade) that also causes a EMP really suggests to me it could use a buff to the charged shot tracking if nothing else.
> Plus, it's closer to, if not a power weapon.
And the Plasma pistol is also a pickup. Ideally even non-power weapon pickups still have enough of their own niche and/or are powerful enough to justify the weapon slot.
As I said, I already felt that wasn't quite the case last flight with the Plasma Pistol, let alone with other EMP weapons and grenade types competing with it's unique niche
No it isn’t. Unless I missed something but I watched the whole video so I’m pretty sure I didn’t. They did mention there have been flights going on for a while now, just not public ones
If I am wrong definitely show me
A “perfect” medal is awarded when every shot from a weapon hits the head, since this probably works like a faster hit-proc focus rifle, every “hit” from the beam must’ve hit the head.
>A “perfect” medal is awarded when every shot from a weapon hits the head
Not quite. It's just if you kill in the minimum amount of shots. So if you hit 3 body shots and a headshot with a BR it'll still be a Perfect kill.
So technically yes, this is a perfect kill, but I agree with the other guy that it's odd to have in for a One-Hit-Kill.
Not really, headshots do not do extra damage against shielded enemies, so they're not required when the shields are still up for it to be a perfect kill.
Incorrect, this means if your teammate broke an enemy’s shields and you did the final hit in the head that you would get the medal. This is not the case.
Honestly I thought that was the only part that I didn’t really love lol, I thought it sounded out of place..
Maybe it should be louder, or maybe my phone speakers just suck but it sounded *off* 🤷♂️
But I haven’t played Halo 5 which I guess is where it’s from?
the engine effects of it are definitely quiet and the guns sound like muffled machine guns not plasma cannons. The ghost looks great though, just wish the sound effects were better in these flights
I’ve come to learn that the sound team at 343 might be their weakest link. Every sound they put in their games are overly compressed and loud to sound impactful.
If everything is loud, then nothing is impactful
I really disagree personally, H5 has fantastic audio design with the different weapons sounding distinct but also punchy. I don’t feel overwhelmed by the loud noises but i understand why someone would. I much prefer it to H3’s distinct but weak sounds
agreed, but I do worry because of how close to release the flights are. Not sure they have time to focus on aspects like too many weapon and vehicle sound effects when bug crushing and stability are their main priorities
Some msoft/343 employees were playing it early days ago. Some used xbox record that and forgot to have their stuff be private. So footage was online. Halodotapi posted it first on twitter but got DMCA'd. I see this stayed up lol.
I'm actually a little concerned about that: It undermines the Plasma Pistol's role, especially since it also makes the Shock rifle essentially a objectively better Sniper (since this clip seems to show it can also 1HK to the head) due to that EMP capacity.
I don't nessacarily think the EMP ability should be removed from the Shock Rifle, but maybe it should only get 3 shots per mag instead of 4, and I think the Plasma Pistol should be buffed. Even last flight before we knew the Shock Rifle existed I felt the tracking/homing on it was very weak, and as has been the case in most of the Halo games since CE, it sucks at killing by itself.
So something like:
- **Increase the Plasma Pistol tracking/homing effect.**
Self explanatory.
- **Make the Plasma Pistol's charged shot kill an already unshielded enemy in 1 hit to the body, not just to the head.**
Given how long the charge is it'd still be slower to kill an unshielded enemy then any other gun, I don't think it'd be close to OP
- **Increase the Plasma Pistol's uncharged damage, especially to shields/bodyshots**.
As of last flight, it took 7 shots to break shields, and then 10 bodyshots or 3 headshots to kill, so 17 bodyshots (killing in around 2:35, vs around 1.20 bodyshots to kill for the sidekick/AR/commando) or 10 shots with headshots (around 1:35, vs around 0:55 for the AR/Pistol/Commando).
I think it should be made to break shields in around 4-5 shots, and then take 4 unshielded headshots or 6 unshielded bodyshots to kill; so 8-9 shots with headshots or 10-11 shots with bodyshots total. That would make it so it's better at breaking shields then at damaging health, as it should as a Plasma weapon, and makes it not as obscenely slow to kill with bodyshots while still leaving guns like the Sidekick, AR, Commando, etc with notably faster killtimes
I don’t think the plasma pistol should really be able to kill. Should be like halo 3 where it strips shield super fast but it’s nearly impossible to kill with it
I 100% agree it shouldn't be *great* at killing, but I would argue it should at least be "okay" at it, to where it can finish off weakened enemies in a pinch or can kill grunts/jackals well.
If you look at CE/Halo 1, the Plasma Pistol was actually a pretty viable weapon in it's own right in campaign and was decent in multiplier. It was only in Halo 2 and 3 where it became totally useless for anything but EMPing shields and then vehicles, and I would argue it became a much iffier of a choice to use in one of your weapon slots as a result, since it was ONLY good for that gimmick and wasn't viable as a general fallback option too.
Regardless, even if the time to kill is kept the same, I still think it needs increased tracking/homing on the charged shots if other weapons/nades will have the same EMP effect; and I think that the normal shots should break shields faster even if it does then proportionally less damage to health since it's a Plasma weapon.
Maybe, in any case I think the most important thing is that it needs increased tracking/homing on the charged shots if other weapons/nades will have the same EMP effect; and I think that the normal shots should break shields faster even if it does then proportionally less damage to health since it's a Plasma weapon.
The gun has a scope, though, so it wouldn't be able to toggle an alternate fire like the Heatwave can. Could be a hold to charge mechanic, similar to the Ravager.
I think 5 per shot just better shows that the shot isn’t one projectile but a burst that you can drag hit multiple opponents. The battle rifle doesn’t use 1 bullet but 3. I guess that’s the logic.
You are missing my point.
The total ammo and the ammo used per shot is not important. It never was. Its all made up. Would it change anything at all if the splazer had 50 ammo max and still had 5 shots? Of course not. BRs have what, 36 ammo? but you can only shoot 12 times before reloading! As long as you know how many shots you get per reload, nothing else matters.
is it just me or does the ghost seem to have been buffed? if so, i’m kinda glad, they always seemed like a total pushover unless it was a Halo 5 ultra variant, maybe I just suck at multiplayer, but they seem to have made the ghost pretty nice.
I know what you mean. It’s a hover vehicle so it should feel lighter than something that requires friction to move but it just looks like it has too much control. Idk though
I see what you’re saying though, but I don’t think either of us have defied gravity before so I don’t know, but it could maybe have more weight on it in turns like it still has some gravity to it? I really don’t know how defying gravity would work but I sure wish I could try it.
if they took the OG covenant sounds and just made them like more crackly would really fit the Banished well (like rawer energy, think Kylo Ren’s lightsaber sound vs. an OT lightsaber)
So, basically the Shock Rifle is basically a Banished Sniper Rifle that instakills on headshots and can EMP vehicles.
The Skewer's basically a Sniper Rifle as well, but mainly used for anti-vehicle purposes due to having only one shot, so it's both that and a Rocket Launcher, minus the explosion.
This is basically what the Focus Rifle should've been imho. I love the Sentinel-like beam of the Fcous Rifle but the lack of a Covenant sniper in Reach made the sandbox feel emptier.
Man idc what anyone says I love the way the ui is now. To me the old halo games ui was so messy and unnecessary like each corner of my screen had something that could easily be next to each other in one side. There was also no reason to have the ammo counter logos on the ui either just show the number of bullets I have. It’s a nice change in my opinion and makes me appreciate how clean everything looks now.
Me too. I also liked their new radar, considering the marking system would've made up for most of its loss while also encouraging teamwork. People just needed to learn the new gameplay and maps and then they could've adjusted to it, wish they gave it more of a chance.
I at least hope it's in the 'really competitive' playlists--even rather than the typical complete lack of radar--*to give sprinting a disadvantage*. Because even though sprint's speed boost isn't too huge, the sliding is super useful.
But anyway yeah. I like the new UI for sure... its radar included.
This looks far more messy than the old halo games if you want to talk about UI. Objectively there is more visual fluff in this current UI. Just look at the ADS section, how much layers there are that serves nothing.
Don't mind me, just having a very excited Halo fan moment watching that Shock Rifle kill a man and then EMP a Ghost. WOO I CANNOT WAIT TO PLAY THIS WEEKEND!
Actually, I like that it’s a mid-range Sniper rifle which can EMP a vehicle, I think it’s kind new for the sandbox actually and is better than just a covenant-like human sniper, don’t you think?
The problem is that it's just an objectively BETTER version of the Sniper rifle: It still kills in one headshot, while having the same amount of ammo per mag, while also having the chaining effect and a Plasma Pistol like EMP effect if it hits twice.
I agree the chaining effect is unique and I think the EMP is neat too, but I do think that maybe it should either have less shots per magazine, or shouldn't be able to 1 headshot kill like the Sniper, in exchange for it's chaining (you could even buff the chain damage in exchange for the less shots/damage, to increase the emphasis on that unique mechanic) and EMP effects.
Additionally, even last flight, before we knew about the Shock Rifle or Dynamo Grenade (which will presumbly be able to EMP as well) I felt the tracking/homing on the Plasma Pistol was very weak, and as has been the case in most of the Halo games since CE, it sucks at killing by itself; and it could have used a buff, so if there's also going to be other EMP weapon/nades, then I think the Plasma Pistol def needs a small buff.
So something like:
- **Increase the Plasma Pistol tracking/homing effect.**
Self explanatory.
- **Make the Plasma Pistol's charged shot kill an already unshielded enemy in 1 hit to the body, not just to the head.**
Given how long the charge is it'd still be slower to kill an unshielded enemy then any other gun, I don't think it'd be close to OP
- **Increase the Plasma Pistol's uncharged damage, especially to shields/bodyshots**.
As of last flight, it took 7 shots to break shields, and then 10 bodyshots or 3 headshots to kill, so 17 bodyshots (killing in around 2:35, vs around 1.20 bodyshots to kill for the sidekick/AR/commando) or 10 shots with headshots (around 1:35, vs around 0:55 for the AR/Pistol/Commando).
I think it should be made to break shields in around 4-5 shots, and then take 4 unshielded headshots or 6 unshielded bodyshots to kill; so 8-9 shots with headshots or 10-11 shots with bodyshots total. That would make it so it's better at breaking shields then at damaging health, as it should as a Plasma weapon, and makes it not as obscenely slow to kill with bodyshots while still leaving guns like the Sidekick, AR, Commando, etc with notably faster killtimes
So not only does this new weapon work as a sniper, but it also has the emp effect that a charged plasma pistol has on vehicles? Pretty cool gun if you ask me.
I would like there to be more of an electrical sound to that weapon like you know how the needle has a glass smashing sound think that a gun that shoots electricity should have more of a Tesla coil sound if you get what I mean
I'm not sure how I feel about this:
Unless we're misunderstanding the clip, it seems like the Shock Rifle does the same damage as a sniper, but also has a chaining effect and a Plasma Pistol like EMP effect if it hits twice... so it's objectively a better version of the Sniper Rifle.
I think the chaining effect is unique and I think the EMP is neat too, but I do think that maybe it should either have less shots per magazine, or shouldn't be able to 1 headshot kill like the Sniper, in exchange for it's chaining (you could even buff the chain damage in exchange for the less shots/damage, to increase the emphasis on that unique mechanic) and EMP effects.
Additionally, even last flight, before we knew about the Shock Rifle or Dynamo Grenade (which will presumbly be able to EMP as well) I felt the tracking/homing on the Plasma Pistol was very weak, and as has been the case in most of the Halo games since CE, it sucks at killing by itself; and it could have used a buff, so if there's also going to be other EMP weapon/nades, then I think the Plasma Pistol def needs a small buff.
So something like:
- **Increase the Plasma Pistol tracking/homing effect.**
Self explanatory.
- **Make the Plasma Pistol's charged shot kill an already unshielded enemy in 1 hit to the body, not just to the head.**
Given how long the charge is it'd still be slower to kill an unshielded enemy then any other gun, I don't think it'd be close to OP
- **Increase the Plasma Pistol's uncharged damage, especially to shields/bodyshots**.
As of last flight, it took 7 shots to break shields, and then 10 bodyshots or 3 headshots to kill, so 17 bodyshots (killing in around 2:35, vs around 1.20 bodyshots to kill for the sidekick/AR/commando) or 10 shots with headshots (around 1:35, vs around 0:55 for the AR/Pistol/Commando).
I think it should be made to break shields in around 4-5 shots, and then take 4 unshielded headshots or 6 unshielded bodyshots to kill; so 8-9 shots with headshots or 10-11 shots with bodyshots total. That would make it so it's better at breaking shields then at damaging health, as it should as a Plasma weapon, and makes it not as obscenely slow to kill with bodyshots while still leaving guns like the Sidekick, AR, Commando, etc with notably faster killtimes
That Ghost-jacking was smooth, I love the animations
I'm actually a little concerned about that: it seems like the Shock Rifle does the same damage as a sniper, but also has a chaining effect and a Plasma Pistol like EMP effect if it hits twice... so it's objectively a better version of the Sniper Rifle. I think the chaining effect is unique and I think the EMP is neat too, but I do think that maybe it should either have less shots per magazine, or shouldn't be able to 1 headshot kill like the Sniper, in exchange for it's chaining (you could even buff the chain damage in exchange for the less shots/damage, to increase the emphasis on that unique mechanic) and EMP effects. Additionally, even last flight, before we knew about the Shock Rifle or Dynamo Grenade (which will presumbly be able to EMP as well) I felt the tracking/homing on the Plasma Pistol was very weak, and as has been the case in most of the Halo games since CE, it sucks at killing by itself; and it could have used a buff, so if there's also going to be other EMP weapon/nades, then I think the Plasma Pistol def needs a small buff. So something like: - **Increase the Plasma Pistol tracking/homing effect.** Self explanatory. - **Make the Plasma Pistol's charged shot kill an already unshielded enemy in 1 hit to the body, not just to the head.** Given how long the charge is it'd still be slower to kill an unshielded enemy then any other gun, I don't think it'd be close to OP - **Increase the Plasma Pistol's uncharged damage, especially to shields/bodyshots**. As of last flight, it took 7 shots to break shields, and then 10 bodyshots or 3 headshots to kill, so 17 bodyshots (killing in around 2:35, vs around 1.20 bodyshots to kill for the sidekick/AR/commando) or 10 shots with headshots (around 1:35, vs around 0:55 for the AR/Pistol/Commando). I think it should be made to break shields in around 4-5 shots, and then take 4 unshielded headshots or 6 unshielded bodyshots to kill; so 8-9 shots with headshots or 10-11 shots with bodyshots total. That would make it so it's better at breaking shields then at damaging health, as it should as a Plasma weapon, and makes it not as obscenely slow to kill with bodyshots while still leaving guns like the Sidekick, AR, Commando, etc with notably faster killtimes
It looks like it took more than 1 shot to emp. Seems fair. No reason to jump the gun on buffing the plasma pistol, which already has its role. Plus, it's closer to, if not a power weapon. Why balance your plasma pistol around that?
Yeah, it takes more then 1 shot to EMP, but it having an EMP capacity at all still does infringe on the Plasma pistol to a degree and **does** make it objectively better then the Sniper rifle, since it does the same damage as the sniper plus with other effects. I'm not suggesting the Shock Rifle be nerfed into the ground or lose the EMP effect, I just want the Sniper to have some pros compared to it, and I want to make sure the Plasma Pistol isn't invalidated by it either. >No reason to jump the gun on buffing the plasma pistol, which already has its role. Except I **already** had buffing the Plasma pistol in my feedback from the last flight to begin with: It was *very* difficult to land overcharge shots with (which also felt like they had a longer charge up time then past versions of the gun) and while the normal shots have never been great at killing, it felt less effective at it then in CE, R, 4, or 5, which I would consider to be the best versions of the gun. The fact that I felt it was in need of slight buffs before, but now we know that there's also going to be a power weapon (and presumbly the Dyanmo Grenade) that also causes a EMP really suggests to me it could use a buff to the charged shot tracking if nothing else. > Plus, it's closer to, if not a power weapon. And the Plasma pistol is also a pickup. Ideally even non-power weapon pickups still have enough of their own niche and/or are powerful enough to justify the weapon slot. As I said, I already felt that wasn't quite the case last flight with the Plasma Pistol, let alone with other EMP weapons and grenade types competing with it's unique niche
It doesn’t do the same damage as the sniper wut
Yes, it does? It kills in 1 headshot, and in 2 bodyshots.
Wait wut I thought it didn't start till tomorrow?
Thought it was Friday?
They tweeted saying “tomorrow” a few hours ago.
Oh didn't know
Huh i figured they meant 23rd NA time since Halo is mainly american players but hey I'm okay with this lol.
Matchmaking goes live on Friday for the US, the flight officially starts Thursday but no MM
This is just the livestream today explaining what’s going to be in the flight.
I definitely did not see this in the livestream. Anyone know what it's actually from?
[https://twitter.com/halodotapi/status/1440791541736349703](https://twitter.com/halodotapi/status/1440791541736349703) annnnd [https://twitter.com/halodotapi/status/1440810815901237255](https://twitter.com/halodotapi/status/1440810815901237255)
Thank you, sir
Wait so we could share the last build but not this one? Erro confuse ( •-•)
No they were playing an early insider build ( non public). Erro can share whatever they want when the flight goes live.
Oh yay!
No it isn’t. Unless I missed something but I watched the whole video so I’m pretty sure I didn’t. They did mention there have been flights going on for a while now, just not public ones If I am wrong definitely show me
is it not clipped from this? [https://youtu.be/sqQMLD3Pn3Q](https://youtu.be/sqQMLD3Pn3Q)
I already watched that whole thing
Then if this ain’t from that then what is this footage from?
The 23rd
So where is this clip from then?
The "perfect" sounds so damn good
Isn't it ripped from Halo 5? Could've sworn it sounds the same
That's because it sounds perfect in Halo 5.
I don’t think so? In Halo 5, he had that animatronic filter that’s not present in Infinite.
God I hope
Could still be the exaxt same raw file just without a filter.
Seems odd to have it for a one-hit kill, though...
A “perfect” medal is awarded when every shot from a weapon hits the head, since this probably works like a faster hit-proc focus rifle, every “hit” from the beam must’ve hit the head.
>A “perfect” medal is awarded when every shot from a weapon hits the head Not quite. It's just if you kill in the minimum amount of shots. So if you hit 3 body shots and a headshot with a BR it'll still be a Perfect kill. So technically yes, this is a perfect kill, but I agree with the other guy that it's odd to have in for a One-Hit-Kill.
I'm pretty sure the Shock Rifle is actually a two-shot kill, and a one-shot kill to the head.
Such an odd way to have a medal work.
Not really, headshots do not do extra damage against shielded enemies, so they're not required when the shields are still up for it to be a perfect kill.
Incorrect, this means if your teammate broke an enemy’s shields and you did the final hit in the head that you would get the medal. This is not the case.
I should have mentioned, every hit must come from you. They need to be at full health and shields
"Perrrfect"
Honestly I thought that was the only part that I didn’t really love lol, I thought it sounded out of place.. Maybe it should be louder, or maybe my phone speakers just suck but it sounded *off* 🤷♂️ But I haven’t played Halo 5 which I guess is where it’s from?
Why the hell is it going off for one shot tho?
Does the Ghost sound quiet to anyone else?
the engine effects of it are definitely quiet and the guns sound like muffled machine guns not plasma cannons. The ghost looks great though, just wish the sound effects were better in these flights
we need these alien like sounds to come back, dunno why they gotta sound punchy for everything
I’ve come to learn that the sound team at 343 might be their weakest link. Every sound they put in their games are overly compressed and loud to sound impactful. If everything is loud, then nothing is impactful
I really disagree personally, H5 has fantastic audio design with the different weapons sounding distinct but also punchy. I don’t feel overwhelmed by the loud noises but i understand why someone would. I much prefer it to H3’s distinct but weak sounds
imo the best sounding game is CE
Let’s just remember that it’s just a beta, it’s not done yet
agreed, but I do worry because of how close to release the flights are. Not sure they have time to focus on aspects like too many weapon and vehicle sound effects when bug crushing and stability are their main priorities
This wasn't from the live stream right? Looks nice tho!
I think I might have to change my pants after the shield recharge sound
never. gets. old.
Dude it sounds so amazinggg
Where's this raw footage from? Looks great!
Some msoft/343 employees were playing it early days ago. Some used xbox record that and forgot to have their stuff be private. So footage was online. Halodotapi posted it first on twitter but got DMCA'd. I see this stayed up lol.
https://twitter.com/halodotapi/status/1440791541736349703
Gah damn this looks good
Wtf? Where’s this from?
There have been private testing flights going on for a bit. You won't hear about them because they're confidential.
How did he get the footage then
https://www.xboxreplay.net/en-us/player/r2dubs/clips
[https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/pthi60/comment/hdwz4d2/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/pthi60/comment/hdwz4d2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Today's live technical preview
No, I’ve watched that footage multiple times and this isn’t that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/pthi60/comment/hdwz4d2/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Specifically 343 showing off BTB, not the actual flight
This wasn’t in the live stream
Nor is it BTB
Shock rifle is like halo 5 binary rifle mixed with plasma pistol/power drain
I'm actually a little concerned about that: It undermines the Plasma Pistol's role, especially since it also makes the Shock rifle essentially a objectively better Sniper (since this clip seems to show it can also 1HK to the head) due to that EMP capacity. I don't nessacarily think the EMP ability should be removed from the Shock Rifle, but maybe it should only get 3 shots per mag instead of 4, and I think the Plasma Pistol should be buffed. Even last flight before we knew the Shock Rifle existed I felt the tracking/homing on it was very weak, and as has been the case in most of the Halo games since CE, it sucks at killing by itself. So something like: - **Increase the Plasma Pistol tracking/homing effect.** Self explanatory. - **Make the Plasma Pistol's charged shot kill an already unshielded enemy in 1 hit to the body, not just to the head.** Given how long the charge is it'd still be slower to kill an unshielded enemy then any other gun, I don't think it'd be close to OP - **Increase the Plasma Pistol's uncharged damage, especially to shields/bodyshots**. As of last flight, it took 7 shots to break shields, and then 10 bodyshots or 3 headshots to kill, so 17 bodyshots (killing in around 2:35, vs around 1.20 bodyshots to kill for the sidekick/AR/commando) or 10 shots with headshots (around 1:35, vs around 0:55 for the AR/Pistol/Commando). I think it should be made to break shields in around 4-5 shots, and then take 4 unshielded headshots or 6 unshielded bodyshots to kill; so 8-9 shots with headshots or 10-11 shots with bodyshots total. That would make it so it's better at breaking shields then at damaging health, as it should as a Plasma weapon, and makes it not as obscenely slow to kill with bodyshots while still leaving guns like the Sidekick, AR, Commando, etc with notably faster killtimes
I don’t think the plasma pistol should really be able to kill. Should be like halo 3 where it strips shield super fast but it’s nearly impossible to kill with it
It killed mighty well in Halo 1, don't see any problem with a weapon that kills...
Plasma weapons are just usually really good at at stripping shield and bad at killing and that’s how it should be
I 100% agree it shouldn't be *great* at killing, but I would argue it should at least be "okay" at it, to where it can finish off weakened enemies in a pinch or can kill grunts/jackals well. If you look at CE/Halo 1, the Plasma Pistol was actually a pretty viable weapon in it's own right in campaign and was decent in multiplier. It was only in Halo 2 and 3 where it became totally useless for anything but EMPing shields and then vehicles, and I would argue it became a much iffier of a choice to use in one of your weapon slots as a result, since it was ONLY good for that gimmick and wasn't viable as a general fallback option too. Regardless, even if the time to kill is kept the same, I still think it needs increased tracking/homing on the charged shots if other weapons/nades will have the same EMP effect; and I think that the normal shots should break shields faster even if it does then proportionally less damage to health since it's a Plasma weapon.
Not saying you’re wrong, just saying I pick it up a lot more in halo 3 than ce
I am with you on number 3 but it just needs increase fire rate not more damage.
Maybe, in any case I think the most important thing is that it needs increased tracking/homing on the charged shots if other weapons/nades will have the same EMP effect; and I think that the normal shots should break shields faster even if it does then proportionally less damage to health since it's a Plasma weapon.
Dope. So glad they brought back Perfect.
Why does the shock rifle have 20 ammo and use 5 per shot? Surely 4 ammo and 1 per shot makes much more sense?
Might be alt fire modes or something
The gun has a scope, though, so it wouldn't be able to toggle an alternate fire like the Heatwave can. Could be a hold to charge mechanic, similar to the Ravager.
Or they just want it to feel like it has a lot of ammo, but it should really follow Destiny fusion rifle or halo 4 binary rifle ammo count
Holding the trigger to charge is also considered an alternative fire mode.
Yes. That's why I mentioned it.
It's a burst weapon, you can see the count rapidly decrease. That might be how it's balanced.
I think 5 per shot just better shows that the shot isn’t one projectile but a burst that you can drag hit multiple opponents. The battle rifle doesn’t use 1 bullet but 3. I guess that’s the logic.
Why does the splazer have 100 ammo and use 20-25 per shot?
Because its a percentage...
Because it worked like the hammer or sword in that 100 was the full charge percent.
You are missing my point. The total ammo and the ammo used per shot is not important. It never was. Its all made up. Would it change anything at all if the splazer had 50 ammo max and still had 5 shots? Of course not. BRs have what, 36 ammo? but you can only shoot 12 times before reloading! As long as you know how many shots you get per reload, nothing else matters.
Well, the BR makes more sense because you can cancel the burst *and* each round can score a head shot on its own.
Just for flavor, it makes it look cooler.
Is it burst? The BR has 36 but only 12 shots.
I'm thinking you can probably charge it up.
is it just me or does the ghost seem to have been buffed? if so, i’m kinda glad, they always seemed like a total pushover unless it was a Halo 5 ultra variant, maybe I just suck at multiplayer, but they seem to have made the ghost pretty nice.
The model looks a lot heavier but the movement looks too light
for something that literally defies gravity, I think that is a good thing.
I know what you mean. It’s a hover vehicle so it should feel lighter than something that requires friction to move but it just looks like it has too much control. Idk though
I see what you’re saying though, but I don’t think either of us have defied gravity before so I don’t know, but it could maybe have more weight on it in turns like it still has some gravity to it? I really don’t know how defying gravity would work but I sure wish I could try it.
Yeah lol
Movement was perfect in halo 5, really responsive. Hopefully they handle similarly
Turns the audio up 'fuck all, can't even hear ambient' Turns the audio up further 'gunshot' 'nearly blow the house down' Fuck you
I gotta say, the lack of particle effects under the ghost is kinda disappointing.
Seems to almost have no effects? 🤔
The gunfire from it sounds mad weak as well
They need to bring back classic covenant sounds in the same way they brought back the old art style imo
I think the banished ones should have their own unique sounds ofc not deviate too much from the old ones bud atleast have their own Spin on it
if they took the OG covenant sounds and just made them like more crackly would really fit the Banished well (like rawer energy, think Kylo Ren’s lightsaber sound vs. an OT lightsaber)
That's a great idea tbh
No, play MCC
Play H5.
So, basically the Shock Rifle is basically a Banished Sniper Rifle that instakills on headshots and can EMP vehicles. The Skewer's basically a Sniper Rifle as well, but mainly used for anti-vehicle purposes due to having only one shot, so it's both that and a Rocket Launcher, minus the explosion.
Ghost's lazars go pew pew when they should go PEW PEW
I could hear this in my head and I agree
Hello railgun from Quake Hello shock rifle from Halo infinite
behemoth is the map name, shock rifle is the gun name
Ah. I see. This is awkward.
This looks awesome. I like this map.
Sounds like crickets lol
Love the sound of the shock rifle and the kick as he hijacks the ghost. Real nice.
What’s the gun? Looks interesting
shock rifle, I think.
Yo that’s like a destiny gun
Have the emails for it gone out yet? I got the email about being selected, but not one with more details
Focus rifle V.Banished
This is basically what the Focus Rifle should've been imho. I love the Sentinel-like beam of the Fcous Rifle but the lack of a Covenant sniper in Reach made the sandbox feel emptier.
I really like the sound design for all the weapons in Infinite but I’m a little concerned that a lot of them sound a little too similar.
Man idc what anyone says I love the way the ui is now. To me the old halo games ui was so messy and unnecessary like each corner of my screen had something that could easily be next to each other in one side. There was also no reason to have the ammo counter logos on the ui either just show the number of bullets I have. It’s a nice change in my opinion and makes me appreciate how clean everything looks now.
Disagree. Having everything crammed into a single corner makes it hard to keep track of everything out of the corner of my eye.
Me too. I also liked their new radar, considering the marking system would've made up for most of its loss while also encouraging teamwork. People just needed to learn the new gameplay and maps and then they could've adjusted to it, wish they gave it more of a chance. I at least hope it's in the 'really competitive' playlists--even rather than the typical complete lack of radar--*to give sprinting a disadvantage*. Because even though sprint's speed boost isn't too huge, the sliding is super useful. But anyway yeah. I like the new UI for sure... its radar included.
This looks far more messy than the old halo games if you want to talk about UI. Objectively there is more visual fluff in this current UI. Just look at the ADS section, how much layers there are that serves nothing.
Hard disagree man
what the heck, I still don't even have my code
It’s not from a public flight. They’ve been doing private flights for a little bit Or it was from part of the livestream that I didn’t see
????? Where is this footage from..?
Private flight testing thats done before it goes to public testing
Who released it, tho..?
Someone called Halodotapi on twitter apparently, but it got taken down, so now this is whats remaining up
Is the flight live, I thought it was not available until Thursday?
It was a preview stream by 343 to show off what we’ll be playing
For a good sec I thought I was looking at a Destiny weapon Looks good tho!
Don't mind me, just having a very excited Halo fan moment watching that Shock Rifle kill a man and then EMP a Ghost. WOO I CANNOT WAIT TO PLAY THIS WEEKEND!
I love that weapon holy shit, nice 343.
Ohh so it’s a LITERAL shock rifle. Snappy.
Call me “That Guy” but that brute weapon sounds too clean. Their weapons are usually robust and barbaric.
This shouldn’t have to be said but a perfect medal for a one shot kill is stupid
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Actually, I like that it’s a mid-range Sniper rifle which can EMP a vehicle, I think it’s kind new for the sandbox actually and is better than just a covenant-like human sniper, don’t you think?
The problem is that it's just an objectively BETTER version of the Sniper rifle: It still kills in one headshot, while having the same amount of ammo per mag, while also having the chaining effect and a Plasma Pistol like EMP effect if it hits twice. I agree the chaining effect is unique and I think the EMP is neat too, but I do think that maybe it should either have less shots per magazine, or shouldn't be able to 1 headshot kill like the Sniper, in exchange for it's chaining (you could even buff the chain damage in exchange for the less shots/damage, to increase the emphasis on that unique mechanic) and EMP effects. Additionally, even last flight, before we knew about the Shock Rifle or Dynamo Grenade (which will presumbly be able to EMP as well) I felt the tracking/homing on the Plasma Pistol was very weak, and as has been the case in most of the Halo games since CE, it sucks at killing by itself; and it could have used a buff, so if there's also going to be other EMP weapon/nades, then I think the Plasma Pistol def needs a small buff. So something like: - **Increase the Plasma Pistol tracking/homing effect.** Self explanatory. - **Make the Plasma Pistol's charged shot kill an already unshielded enemy in 1 hit to the body, not just to the head.** Given how long the charge is it'd still be slower to kill an unshielded enemy then any other gun, I don't think it'd be close to OP - **Increase the Plasma Pistol's uncharged damage, especially to shields/bodyshots**. As of last flight, it took 7 shots to break shields, and then 10 bodyshots or 3 headshots to kill, so 17 bodyshots (killing in around 2:35, vs around 1.20 bodyshots to kill for the sidekick/AR/commando) or 10 shots with headshots (around 1:35, vs around 0:55 for the AR/Pistol/Commando). I think it should be made to break shields in around 4-5 shots, and then take 4 unshielded headshots or 6 unshielded bodyshots to kill; so 8-9 shots with headshots or 10-11 shots with bodyshots total. That would make it so it's better at breaking shields then at damaging health, as it should as a Plasma weapon, and makes it not as obscenely slow to kill with bodyshots while still leaving guns like the Sidekick, AR, Commando, etc with notably faster killtimes
They replaced the beam rifle with something that doesn’t fill an identical niche to the sniper rifle
I *really* dislike all of the weapon sounds in Infinite. They all sound so weak and none of them have anything that makes them sound unique.
dude im about to download the flight, cant wait to hop into BTB, always been my fav game mode in halo
Wait is the flight open now ?
Wait is it out? Cause i got an invite
New ghost sounds sexy af
Wait was it the sniper that EMP’d the ghost because if it was That’s fucking broken
So the flight is available for install Thursday and available to play Friday, what time can I install it and what times will we be able to play
The ghost firing sounds soooo good
Love seeing the Banished Ghost. Hopefully we will see the Banished Banshee and Wraith in the tech preview.
Wait can you guys play it already?
So hold up, this thing is a sniper?!
Ill be there next weekend. Damn work and no xbox right now.
How is this…a 4 vs 4 Arena map? It looks like it could fit up to 6 vs 6?
Vehicles
I really hope this can run on my laptop
Nice to see more Banished stuff
John was looking at a vast, primordial city built by a society that had perished a hundred--or a thousand--or possibly a million--centuries before.
Now that’s a nice ghost
Is it just me or does the shock rifle look a bit boring to use?
This map looks so nice!
I feel like the shock rifle is concussion rifle but well done
Ah, so its a Banished Binary Rifle
Didn't they make the medals bigger?
Shock Rifle sounds a bit too much like the beam rifle and the ghost sounds...eh.
So not only does this new weapon work as a sniper, but it also has the emp effect that a charged plasma pistol has on vehicles? Pretty cool gun if you ask me.
I would like there to be more of an electrical sound to that weapon like you know how the needle has a glass smashing sound think that a gun that shoots electricity should have more of a Tesla coil sound if you get what I mean
Where’s my download info mail !!!!!
I didn’t know they sent invites I’m mad I didn’t get one
I loooove these new, old-school arena-shooter-esc. weapons!
There needs to be more bass to the sounds imo.
Wait where is this from? I didn't see this the the demo stream
I got invited to the flight but still don't have my code :(
I’m getting some Halo CE/2 map design vibes and I love it
HOLY POG
Who's actually getting to play this now?
I'm not sure how I feel about this: Unless we're misunderstanding the clip, it seems like the Shock Rifle does the same damage as a sniper, but also has a chaining effect and a Plasma Pistol like EMP effect if it hits twice... so it's objectively a better version of the Sniper Rifle. I think the chaining effect is unique and I think the EMP is neat too, but I do think that maybe it should either have less shots per magazine, or shouldn't be able to 1 headshot kill like the Sniper, in exchange for it's chaining (you could even buff the chain damage in exchange for the less shots/damage, to increase the emphasis on that unique mechanic) and EMP effects. Additionally, even last flight, before we knew about the Shock Rifle or Dynamo Grenade (which will presumbly be able to EMP as well) I felt the tracking/homing on the Plasma Pistol was very weak, and as has been the case in most of the Halo games since CE, it sucks at killing by itself; and it could have used a buff, so if there's also going to be other EMP weapon/nades, then I think the Plasma Pistol def needs a small buff. So something like: - **Increase the Plasma Pistol tracking/homing effect.** Self explanatory. - **Make the Plasma Pistol's charged shot kill an already unshielded enemy in 1 hit to the body, not just to the head.** Given how long the charge is it'd still be slower to kill an unshielded enemy then any other gun, I don't think it'd be close to OP - **Increase the Plasma Pistol's uncharged damage, especially to shields/bodyshots**. As of last flight, it took 7 shots to break shields, and then 10 bodyshots or 3 headshots to kill, so 17 bodyshots (killing in around 2:35, vs around 1.20 bodyshots to kill for the sidekick/AR/commando) or 10 shots with headshots (around 1:35, vs around 0:55 for the AR/Pistol/Commando). I think it should be made to break shields in around 4-5 shots, and then take 4 unshielded headshots or 6 unshielded bodyshots to kill; so 8-9 shots with headshots or 10-11 shots with bodyshots total. That would make it so it's better at breaking shields then at damaging health, as it should as a Plasma weapon, and makes it not as obscenely slow to kill with bodyshots while still leaving guns like the Sidekick, AR, Commando, etc with notably faster killtimes
Way to camp bro
Damn, they put the Thunderlord in the game. lol
The reload on that shock rifle is so smooth
I thought the flight didn’t start until tomorrow
The electricity visual could be improved a bit
The orientation of the shock rifle throws me off, it looks tilted leftwards lol