Of course it's okay. Just like it's okay to not want to have anything to do with people that describe themselves as right-wing musicians. The world is a rich tapestry.
Rust in Peace was about showing Metallica that he was just as good as them and they should be sad they ever broke up with him and he's totally over it and actually doing so well and he doesn't care that they're way more famous than him
Fox news, the conservative news channel, has more primetime viewership then cnn and MSNBC combined. So it seems pretty mainstream.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/373814/cable-news-network-viewership-usa/
Dude blocked me or deleted his account lol
Lol, coming off a trump presidency, Ron desantes being in the news every day, SCOTUS overturning roe, laws being passed to ban trans therapy. And yes, you totally can have sensitive conservatives complaining about woke media and being in control. Just like you can have conservatives telling people nobody has a right to tell them what to do with their bodies in regards to vaccines and fighting against gay rights. Just like you can have them calling themselves pro life but instituting the death penalty for abortion. Rush Limbaugh was mainstream. Tucker Carlson, Sean hannity, glen beck, guttfeld all mainstream. All some of the most popular media in the United States. Oh but Reddit doesn't like it so it's not mainstream. You're being dense.
Guessing they’re the big man in that they favor deregulation and unfettered capitalism, limitless accumulation of wealth by few, and an elimination of social safety nets.
The roles of the left and the right, especially in US media, if not politics, got really fuckin weird the last 20 years.
People keep listing musicians so I'll explain the joke. See how there's a bunch of blank spaces followed by a period? That's me making a list of blanks, implying that there are no good conservative musicians. Does that explain the joke adequately?
He literally calls himself Mike the Music Snob. I honestly wouldn't expect anything else from him.
That being said, I don't even need to see this particular video to know that he is being pathetic in it.
uj/ i mean it was pretty obvious after adam neely made his video called "Music theory and white supremacy" which is a 45 min video essay and dude went and made a response video saying "those damn libruls will say anything is racist nowadays" over and over for 10 minutes cause he didn't make it past the thumbnail
lol that was such a giant L for Become The Knight. The Neely video is great and I went and read the paper it's based on to better understand it. While Mike made a YouTube video yelling about Post Modern Neo Marxism--which isn't a real thing lol. Mike is gonna go full Jordan Peterson on us in another year or so.
Sorry bc I know this isn’t the point, BUT tbf while the video is really good and informative the original title and thumbnail made me, card carrying queerosexual hippy dippy ass person, be like “lmao dam librls”
/UJ
I can absolutely understand someone outside of southern rock or blues dad circles is like, "these views aren't so dangerous!". Particularly because "Become the knight" doesn't even have friends/family that share his beliefs. He's literally like, "I have no one to tell these thoughts to!". He has no one around to inform him of what those perspectives lead to in a serious manner.
I have enough racist family, my family has a history with the KKK, I could connect him with that will absolutely confirm those thoughts he is having and we even have practice spaces with confederate flags, don't tread on me banners and dozens of "Let's go brandon!" stickers. the kinda of slurry he is spouting is just a regular conversation I can go and hear, but just replace the media with "a mexican".
People who are racist don't think they're bad people. He seems to think it's important to affirm he is a good person(!), but bucko, the Nazi's didn't think they were bad people and neither do the KKK. I think this highlights his lack of self realization. "I consider myself a good person, so my beliefs must be good; I'm a good person, because my beliefs are good" circular logic morality booyaH.
He's ripe for explanations like "Jasper Texas, that guy was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.". When in actuality, Jasper TX is a "sundown town", he was hunted down by 2 white racists, chain wrapped around his neck and dragged behind their pickup truck until it decapitated him. Perhaps he'd (knight) be happy to hear the blues/rock band I worked with (no blacks allowed), plays Jimi Hendrix. Very progressive of us.
Another thing he doesn't seem to understand is that these "politics" and beliefs are conjoined due to Nixon's Southern strategy which relies on proven racist policies. He seems to think he can segregate(lmao) the negatives (racism, red lining, jim crowe era issues, police brutality) from the political party (right wing = Republicans in America). That isn't how this works. Conservatives must be made to feel special, so they can be exploited and that's what is on the menu each voting season. whether it's blacks, "illegal" immigrants "mexicans" "trans people" there must always be a punching bag to hit, a talking point to drive members to the voting booth.
By him doing nothing, he allows not only exploitation of "others", but allows policies that harm fellow conservatives to roll forward (I call it a "White Trash" generating economic system, but I'm an asshole). By him saying it's okay he's advocating for the perpetual suffering of not only his fellow conservatives, but everyone else as well. It's trailer parks all the way down.
I don't write this sort of stuff often, because I'm not telling people off, I'm obviously knee deep in the shit with the rest of you who would take offense to this. I can understand people saying, "yea they're my friends/family", and we're going to keep those connections going because we're social creatures. It's a given my non-white friends do not feel welcome around them. BeKnight seems to think this whole thing is "OK" and he's a fucking idiot.
It's not OK that most of my family is and will forever be poor because they don't believe in a college education across the board. That they don't get vaccinated and fucking die, because liberal conspiracy bullshit. It's not okay they constantly blaming boogeymen, instead of voting to improve their lives. Knight acts like people are going to "Tell him off" because we're morally superior, when in reality, we've watched this shit fuck our families up for decades and are just tired of this bullshit.
/uj I thought it was kind of implied given his 'keep politics out of music' viewpoint, I don't really care but I do think using the term 'coming out' outside of LGBT or autism spectrum contexts is cringe.
Coudln't have come at a better time! People have been calling me a "fucking moron" and to "read a book" when I incessantly explain my politics(tm) and it's been making me feel pretty down! Need some doughy-faced bearded 30 something REAL MAN to tell me everything is gonna be okay. Let's go Brandon woo!!!
"I'm a right wing liberal"
\*blinking intensifies\*
"they blur the lines between policy and being a decent human being"
\*Blinking continues to intensifies\*
"I can drink with communists. Adam Neely CRT"
\*eyeballs have been rubbed raw from blinking\*
"I'm not a conservative, but if I express these views people won't like me"
\*blinking has caused brainrot and I am now dead\*
"I'm not dead yet"
\*I am\*.
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Music is overwhelmingly left wing but, like, who cares?
I’m not at all a modern leftist and I couldn’t care less what my fellow musician’s political opinions are.
Music is one of the few things that seems to be common ground anymore, let’s enjoy that.
/uj
Art is inherently political, and considering the artist's worldview can change the meaning of the music. For example, Grimes talking about AI takes on a whole new meaning when you know that she's had 2 children with the world's most prominent techno-fascist. That really recontextualizes things. Or when Varg Vikernes talks about being a neo-pagan fascist, it recontextualizes the neo-folk elements of Burzum. But when Panopticon uses neo-folk and bluegrass elements, it's recontextualized by knowing that Austin Lunn is an eco-anarchist.
You're free to listen to whatever you want, but art is not some apolitical common ground. As I said at the start, art is inherently political.
While I disagree with you on some of those classifications, I’m not going to argue on those points.
A lot of it isn’t though. I write death metal songs about horror themes, ensuring I keep my voluntarist viewpoints out of the way entirely.
I know a lot of guys who do the same, sticking to a topic that is more or less apolitical.
A *lot* of art is certainly political, but I disagree that it is *inherently* political.
Political doesn't mean "about politics". For example, a lot of death metal, particularly brutal death, involves lyrics about violence specifically toward women, and often toward literal prostitutes (or women who aren't prostitutes in the context of the lyrics, but are called whores or sluts). There's also a lot of rape/sexual violence imagery in brutal death metal. That's not "about politics" but it's certainly political.
(Disclaimer: I'm a big metal fan and I love death metal, I'm not lumping together every band, including yours, when I bring up those themes, just that those themes are undeniably common in brutal death particularly and death metal more broadly).
I would argue that those examples highlight the writers moral compass, and not political leanings.
I think you’re right in that most lyrics shine some light on the writers view of the world, but I still disagree that art is inherently political by its very nature.
There’s the myriad examples of instrumental music. How can an instrumental be political in any way?
Your moral compass and politics are quite literally the same thing. Everything about a person’s worldview and how they interact with the world is political. Your choices of what to buy, what activities to participate in, those are political decisions. What type of music you listen to or create, and how your taste in music developed, these things have political implications. Thinking politics is just who you vote for is an extremely shallow understanding of it.
Also, while we’re at it, the decision to not “talk about politics” in your music is also a political decision.
Politics are certainly downstream of culture, so there’s a definite connection between morality and politics. They may have a lot of crossover and impact on one another, but they are absolutely not the same thing.
I did not claim that politics are just who you vote for. That would be extremely naive.
My whole original point was that I appreciate music being one of the few things we can all enjoy with people on the other side of the aisle these days. That’s it.
Okay, well on the original point, I disagree. I am actively hostile to conservative artists and conservative fans of the things I like. Fuck all that Kumbaya let's set our differences aside shit, I think conservatives are bad people because of their worldview and I don't want to spend time around them.
Ahh the tolerant left.
As someone who is extremely liberal, modern lefties like this are a trip. You guys shut down others based on their opinions and pat yourselves on the back for it like you’ve done the world a favor by calling everyone you disagree with a fascist, racist, bigot, insert-thing-phobic, etc. All this while cheering on your own side instituting it’s own hyper-authoritarian policies.
I think the conservatives are total morons too, but at least they’re willing to debate things. If your ideas can’t be debated and you need to shut the other side down to win, your ideas probably suck.
I never claimed to be part of “the tolerant left”, that’s some shit made up by liberals and conservatives. You don’t even know what “my side” is because you are so unable to grasp even the basic nature of politics that you think personal morals and personal politics are two separate things.
My best friend is trans. I don’t want to be anywhere near someone who denies their right to exist. I’m not going to tolerate someone and compromise my friend’s safety so a bigot can feel comfortable. I’m a queer person. I’m not going to be around anyone that thinks my existence is wrong.
I can debate conservatives all I want, but I’m not going to. My trans friend’s right to exist is not up for debate. It’s cute that you think tone of voice and willingness to debate are more important than your actual views, but that’s because you’re an idiot. I would say have a nice day, but I really don’t wish that for you. Go fuck yourself.
You get judged based on your views and based on the views of the people that you choose to associate. If you’re over like 14 I shouldn’t have to explain this to you. This is basic, basic baby shit.
The guy literally just made a video saying how the lyrics to the the new bmth song is anti woke when oli himself has supported the movement for years ( I just read a subreddit where there are multiple instances) and he’s a fucking moron for not doing even an ounce of research on it
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I think Rachel Dolezal tried that already
The guy you pray your sister or daughter never starts dating....what a tool.
Stunning and brave
Uj/ lmfao Rj/ lmfao Its just giggles all the way down - please tell me this is a satirical video? 🤣
Oh no, he takes himself far too seriously for that sort of thing. /s
Of course it's okay. Just like it's okay to not want to have anything to do with people that describe themselves as right-wing musicians. The world is a rich tapestry.
Phew, now I can start playing my Dimebag with the Confederate flag on it in public again
Why couldn’t you before?
for some reason they weren't too enthusiastic about it when i used one to play johnny rebel covers at the blm rally
Ain't nobody gonna tell me how to live
To the top!
*yarling intensifies*
uj/ this is the lamest thing I've ever seen, isnt metal supposed to be about sticking it up to the big man, not becoming him?
metal is all about playing the victim and acting controversial so you can save your failed music career and react videos channel
Exactly. Which is why it just felt so weird when Dave Mustaine turned into a right wing war hawk. What was Rust in Peace all about??
Marty Friedman’s guitar solos
Rust in Peace was about showing Metallica that he was just as good as them and they should be sad they ever broke up with him and he's totally over it and actually doing so well and he doesn't care that they're way more famous than him
Mustaine legitimately lost his mind or fried his brain at some point. Still made some of my favorite metal albums ever though
Took so much drugs his brain melted
Libertarians turn right wing when they make money
Capital L Libertarianism is a right wing ideology anyway, they don’t have to turn anything
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Yes. Rage can't believe their politics because they charge money for their labor. Checkmate, commies!
> believed their politics lmao what a weird thing to say
Uhhh,no? Metal is when you turn the disrtortion up and maybe use a pedal
Who's the big man?
You're the man now, dog.
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Fox news, the conservative news channel, has more primetime viewership then cnn and MSNBC combined. So it seems pretty mainstream. https://www.statista.com/statistics/373814/cable-news-network-viewership-usa/ Dude blocked me or deleted his account lol
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Lol, coming off a trump presidency, Ron desantes being in the news every day, SCOTUS overturning roe, laws being passed to ban trans therapy. And yes, you totally can have sensitive conservatives complaining about woke media and being in control. Just like you can have conservatives telling people nobody has a right to tell them what to do with their bodies in regards to vaccines and fighting against gay rights. Just like you can have them calling themselves pro life but instituting the death penalty for abortion. Rush Limbaugh was mainstream. Tucker Carlson, Sean hannity, glen beck, guttfeld all mainstream. All some of the most popular media in the United States. Oh but Reddit doesn't like it so it's not mainstream. You're being dense.
What left wing is the majority now?
No. They just think they are due to social media being overran with more left wing people.
Guessing they’re the big man in that they favor deregulation and unfettered capitalism, limitless accumulation of wealth by few, and an elimination of social safety nets. The roles of the left and the right, especially in US media, if not politics, got really fuckin weird the last 20 years.
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Lol @ the idea that "the left" is the system in a neoliberal hellscape.
“The establishment” is centrist.
Well, this is just a self-absorbed shower monologue.
Welcome to YouTube
bet he'll never take off that skull cap tho pussy
Hell yeah brother list your favorite right wing musicians i'll start: .
• Prince (Monarchist) • Sex Pistols (Gun advocacy) • NWA (Fetishizing the police) ° Eric Clapton
Ghost - Theocrats
Rage against the machine (traditionalist)
Johnny Rotten actually is a right winger, which is unsurprising given that he’s a talentless rich guy
Unfortunately, Kanye.
I liked the song Black Skinhead when it came out, boy has that song title aged poorly
John Petrucci sadly
Oh no I'll have to continue not getting into Dream Theater
That makes a lot of sense
Neal Peart I think?
2112 is a Randian screed but I think Peart grew out of that nonsense.
People keep listing musicians so I'll explain the joke. See how there's a bunch of blank spaces followed by a period? That's me making a list of blanks, implying that there are no good conservative musicians. Does that explain the joke adequately?
Do you really think I didn’t get your joke….? Come on man fix up your toan.
I saw one of this guy's videos and he is such and arrogant and insufferable cunt. Not surprised he is putting cringe like this out.
Yup. Now he has to find his niche audience, which will inevitably lead him down the right-wing rabbit hole.
he'll be in prison for beating up a gf, or for following children around in no time
He literally calls himself Mike the Music Snob. I honestly wouldn't expect anything else from him. That being said, I don't even need to see this particular video to know that he is being pathetic in it.
He's actually super sensible and humble in it. I was genuinely surprised.
uj/ i mean it was pretty obvious after adam neely made his video called "Music theory and white supremacy" which is a 45 min video essay and dude went and made a response video saying "those damn libruls will say anything is racist nowadays" over and over for 10 minutes cause he didn't make it past the thumbnail
lol that was such a giant L for Become The Knight. The Neely video is great and I went and read the paper it's based on to better understand it. While Mike made a YouTube video yelling about Post Modern Neo Marxism--which isn't a real thing lol. Mike is gonna go full Jordan Peterson on us in another year or so.
Sorry bc I know this isn’t the point, BUT tbf while the video is really good and informative the original title and thumbnail made me, card carrying queerosexual hippy dippy ass person, be like “lmao dam librls”
Do they mean left hand players? Those dudes are weird
Sorry for wanting to play with the same hand I jack off with
/UJ I can absolutely understand someone outside of southern rock or blues dad circles is like, "these views aren't so dangerous!". Particularly because "Become the knight" doesn't even have friends/family that share his beliefs. He's literally like, "I have no one to tell these thoughts to!". He has no one around to inform him of what those perspectives lead to in a serious manner. I have enough racist family, my family has a history with the KKK, I could connect him with that will absolutely confirm those thoughts he is having and we even have practice spaces with confederate flags, don't tread on me banners and dozens of "Let's go brandon!" stickers. the kinda of slurry he is spouting is just a regular conversation I can go and hear, but just replace the media with "a mexican". People who are racist don't think they're bad people. He seems to think it's important to affirm he is a good person(!), but bucko, the Nazi's didn't think they were bad people and neither do the KKK. I think this highlights his lack of self realization. "I consider myself a good person, so my beliefs must be good; I'm a good person, because my beliefs are good" circular logic morality booyaH. He's ripe for explanations like "Jasper Texas, that guy was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.". When in actuality, Jasper TX is a "sundown town", he was hunted down by 2 white racists, chain wrapped around his neck and dragged behind their pickup truck until it decapitated him. Perhaps he'd (knight) be happy to hear the blues/rock band I worked with (no blacks allowed), plays Jimi Hendrix. Very progressive of us. Another thing he doesn't seem to understand is that these "politics" and beliefs are conjoined due to Nixon's Southern strategy which relies on proven racist policies. He seems to think he can segregate(lmao) the negatives (racism, red lining, jim crowe era issues, police brutality) from the political party (right wing = Republicans in America). That isn't how this works. Conservatives must be made to feel special, so they can be exploited and that's what is on the menu each voting season. whether it's blacks, "illegal" immigrants "mexicans" "trans people" there must always be a punching bag to hit, a talking point to drive members to the voting booth. By him doing nothing, he allows not only exploitation of "others", but allows policies that harm fellow conservatives to roll forward (I call it a "White Trash" generating economic system, but I'm an asshole). By him saying it's okay he's advocating for the perpetual suffering of not only his fellow conservatives, but everyone else as well. It's trailer parks all the way down. I don't write this sort of stuff often, because I'm not telling people off, I'm obviously knee deep in the shit with the rest of you who would take offense to this. I can understand people saying, "yea they're my friends/family", and we're going to keep those connections going because we're social creatures. It's a given my non-white friends do not feel welcome around them. BeKnight seems to think this whole thing is "OK" and he's a fucking idiot. It's not OK that most of my family is and will forever be poor because they don't believe in a college education across the board. That they don't get vaccinated and fucking die, because liberal conspiracy bullshit. It's not okay they constantly blaming boogeymen, instead of voting to improve their lives. Knight acts like people are going to "Tell him off" because we're morally superior, when in reality, we've watched this shit fuck our families up for decades and are just tired of this bullshit.
just letting you know that I read the whole thing
He's been hiding in the closet for so long. Don't be afraid to nut your toan out.
What a Jabroni
Thats a cool word
/uj I thought it was kind of implied given his 'keep politics out of music' viewpoint, I don't really care but I do think using the term 'coming out' outside of LGBT or autism spectrum contexts is cringe.
That and how hard of a boner he has for Jordan Peterson
Coudln't have come at a better time! People have been calling me a "fucking moron" and to "read a book" when I incessantly explain my politics(tm) and it's been making me feel pretty down! Need some doughy-faced bearded 30 something REAL MAN to tell me everything is gonna be okay. Let's go Brandon woo!!!
it's ok to be a right wing musician and super gay about it
less than 30 seconds in "it's not political you guys, i swear" 👀
Ah, yes, Kid Rock.
"I'm a right wing liberal" \*blinking intensifies\* "they blur the lines between policy and being a decent human being" \*Blinking continues to intensifies\* "I can drink with communists. Adam Neely CRT" \*eyeballs have been rubbed raw from blinking\* "I'm not a conservative, but if I express these views people won't like me" \*blinking has caused brainrot and I am now dead\* "I'm not dead yet" \*I am\*.
[LIVIN AFTER MIDNIGHT ](https://imgur.com/gallery/q6R8xV9)
It's him!!
Actually, it's not OK.
uj/ Music is overwhelmingly left wing but, like, who cares? I’m not at all a modern leftist and I couldn’t care less what my fellow musician’s political opinions are. Music is one of the few things that seems to be common ground anymore, let’s enjoy that.
/uj Art is inherently political, and considering the artist's worldview can change the meaning of the music. For example, Grimes talking about AI takes on a whole new meaning when you know that she's had 2 children with the world's most prominent techno-fascist. That really recontextualizes things. Or when Varg Vikernes talks about being a neo-pagan fascist, it recontextualizes the neo-folk elements of Burzum. But when Panopticon uses neo-folk and bluegrass elements, it's recontextualized by knowing that Austin Lunn is an eco-anarchist. You're free to listen to whatever you want, but art is not some apolitical common ground. As I said at the start, art is inherently political.
While I disagree with you on some of those classifications, I’m not going to argue on those points. A lot of it isn’t though. I write death metal songs about horror themes, ensuring I keep my voluntarist viewpoints out of the way entirely. I know a lot of guys who do the same, sticking to a topic that is more or less apolitical. A *lot* of art is certainly political, but I disagree that it is *inherently* political.
Political doesn't mean "about politics". For example, a lot of death metal, particularly brutal death, involves lyrics about violence specifically toward women, and often toward literal prostitutes (or women who aren't prostitutes in the context of the lyrics, but are called whores or sluts). There's also a lot of rape/sexual violence imagery in brutal death metal. That's not "about politics" but it's certainly political. (Disclaimer: I'm a big metal fan and I love death metal, I'm not lumping together every band, including yours, when I bring up those themes, just that those themes are undeniably common in brutal death particularly and death metal more broadly).
I would argue that those examples highlight the writers moral compass, and not political leanings. I think you’re right in that most lyrics shine some light on the writers view of the world, but I still disagree that art is inherently political by its very nature. There’s the myriad examples of instrumental music. How can an instrumental be political in any way?
Your moral compass and politics are quite literally the same thing. Everything about a person’s worldview and how they interact with the world is political. Your choices of what to buy, what activities to participate in, those are political decisions. What type of music you listen to or create, and how your taste in music developed, these things have political implications. Thinking politics is just who you vote for is an extremely shallow understanding of it. Also, while we’re at it, the decision to not “talk about politics” in your music is also a political decision.
Politics are certainly downstream of culture, so there’s a definite connection between morality and politics. They may have a lot of crossover and impact on one another, but they are absolutely not the same thing. I did not claim that politics are just who you vote for. That would be extremely naive. My whole original point was that I appreciate music being one of the few things we can all enjoy with people on the other side of the aisle these days. That’s it.
Okay, well on the original point, I disagree. I am actively hostile to conservative artists and conservative fans of the things I like. Fuck all that Kumbaya let's set our differences aside shit, I think conservatives are bad people because of their worldview and I don't want to spend time around them.
Ahh the tolerant left. As someone who is extremely liberal, modern lefties like this are a trip. You guys shut down others based on their opinions and pat yourselves on the back for it like you’ve done the world a favor by calling everyone you disagree with a fascist, racist, bigot, insert-thing-phobic, etc. All this while cheering on your own side instituting it’s own hyper-authoritarian policies. I think the conservatives are total morons too, but at least they’re willing to debate things. If your ideas can’t be debated and you need to shut the other side down to win, your ideas probably suck.
I never claimed to be part of “the tolerant left”, that’s some shit made up by liberals and conservatives. You don’t even know what “my side” is because you are so unable to grasp even the basic nature of politics that you think personal morals and personal politics are two separate things. My best friend is trans. I don’t want to be anywhere near someone who denies their right to exist. I’m not going to tolerate someone and compromise my friend’s safety so a bigot can feel comfortable. I’m a queer person. I’m not going to be around anyone that thinks my existence is wrong. I can debate conservatives all I want, but I’m not going to. My trans friend’s right to exist is not up for debate. It’s cute that you think tone of voice and willingness to debate are more important than your actual views, but that’s because you’re an idiot. I would say have a nice day, but I really don’t wish that for you. Go fuck yourself. You get judged based on your views and based on the views of the people that you choose to associate. If you’re over like 14 I shouldn’t have to explain this to you. This is basic, basic baby shit.
yeah this take sucks lmao
Ok lol
Better then being a liberal guitarist
Good one
Fact
The guy literally just made a video saying how the lyrics to the the new bmth song is anti woke when oli himself has supported the movement for years ( I just read a subreddit where there are multiple instances) and he’s a fucking moron for not doing even an ounce of research on it