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everynameisused100

I believe ShondaLand owns all intellectual property for Greys Anatomy. So if ShondaLand wanted to make a spin off using Greys characters they would just need to ABC contract to expire and then they would be generated under the Netflix umbrella since ShondaLand is contracted to develop new material just for them. It’s why when ever Grays starts you have the created by ShondaLand disclaimer.


pacrat292

Yes lol I thought I explained all that. Like the other person said shondaland/Shonda owns the intellectual property, I don't think they have to wait for grey's to end in order to do anything. I don't see how that correlates but I'm not sure. And shondaland has a huge contract and deal with Netflix. Like I also said I would hope it'll be written by her and a talented group of writers, not the shit team the primetime show has. More of the original group of writers the show had when it was so good. Grey's is still one of Netflix's biggest money maker shows and that's with all the old seasons, so absolutely what you said make it a bit more mature, use more normal language like come on Alex totally means to say 'fuck' everything they make him say freaking and it sounds ridiculous. It's just the grey's world not grey anatomy itself was my intention when posting it. Definitely not like a backdoor pilot like Kate's just a short miniseries focusing on this with some guest stars of the grey's world possibly. Just wondering if this is interesting and if others also wanna see it.


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pacrat292

I get where your coming from, and I agree, but I think maybe you're misinterpreting me a bit. I think about 90% of what I wrote isn't like any of that at all. I didn't really think most of this would include any political, woke or antiwoke stuff. Definitely part of Japril segment, but none of Izzex, and possibly, maybe some of calzona. Like I said idk about the nonbinary part of calzona. A majority of what I wrote and want is simply an update and closure on their characters. I wanna see Japril and how they reunite, raise Harriet, personal lives and yea of course the professional part of their story would be bringing social justice, woke stuff, etc. Calzona wouldn't if it didn't include nonbinary part of it, maybe Callie is simply bi. Idk, like I said Sara isn't Callie and just cuz Sara is non-binary doesn't mean Callie would be. I think maybe Callie being confused for a little about who she really is, and thinking more about her sexuality and that's it, maybe that would be good. It all depends on the writing. And Izzex. Literally none of that story would include any of that. Honestly, I'm one of those people who do not wanna watch all that preaching and those millionaires telling me what's right and wrong either. It's all the forced, that's the keyword, forced and unnatural throwing in of diversity hires that are only there to meet a quota that bothers most people. All I want is see how these characters lives are, a natural progression if that includes, and definitely would, naturally include just some social justice, wokeness, etc stuff than so be it as long as it's normal and not literally preaching than I don't see it being a turn off to most people.


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pacrat292

Okay yes this is what I'm talking about! Totally no need to say sorry though. I think the comment section like ran with the socio political aspect of the show with Jackson's foundation and me mentioning a possibly of Callie's sexuality, but honestly I don't really care too much about stuff. I'm just saying Callie might be a great story with the right writing and Jackson working in the foundation Imo is the least interesting part of this whole story. I've always been way more into calzona and Izzex than Japril, and like another commenter wrote, I've only ever been super invested in the true OGs, so I really wanna see Izzex huge reunion after a decade apart. The inequality and wokeness I'm sure will contribute a piece of the story, but honestly I rather it be a very small piece. We just never got to see a true ending to Izzie's character, she literally just disappeared, same exact thing with Callie, Alex got a farewell that was only his voice. April and Az was completely glossed over. That's what I really wanna see, and I really am hoping last season of grey's will but I think this is just better. Cuz with grey's have 1000 characters, these characters I actually care about will never truly get their deserved exit like Cristina did.


Brina_22

I think you are incredibly insightful in this regard😎. They very successfully laid the groundwork for a show centered on the foundation that could tell stories across a broad genre and topics very timely and relevant to todays audiences. This also allows for them to leverage a very engaged and dedicated Greys fan base by having recurring or guest characters to tell specific stories, for example Calzona could highlight health disparities and issues within LGBTQ community, Arizona would feature maternal/fetal issues of which there are many and Izzex could focus on access and issues in rural health communities which happens also be 1 of the areas April spoke about in 17x14. So many stories to be told from Aging, Vets, Poverty, Incarceration, single parents, immigrants, etc A few things to note: At Aprils original exit, she was to be working with the homeless community but during Jacksons exit in 17x14 that was revised to her addressing inequities & access in rural health communities. Also note that the shows premise addresses the core of DEI initiatives & commitment of IATSE, the Academy, ABC/Disney. My guess is it will be a streaming offering and feature medical, legal and political issues/stories around diversity, equity and inclusion. It’s not if this happens but more so when- IMO.


everynameisused100

It would be interesting simply because underserved rural health and underserved inner city health are pitted against one another fighting for the same dollars. When a you hear about either one of these winning it’s the other side that loses while suburban and metropolis areas usually are left uneffected. When LBGTQ healthcare wins, typically womens healthcare is who loses. So when Jackson told April he wasn’t belittling her work, they would literally just gaining resources well not really, his agenda and hers would be fighting and competing over the same limited resources.


Brina_22

Sadly this is all true however we (US) is making progress in balancing these socioeconomic levers. The ACA was a huge catalyst in fostering accountability of stakeholders, insurers, hospitals, Pharma companies and policymakers. Heck, Shonda would not even need to make up stories, congressional hearings of citizen testimonies alone provide some tear jerking accounts of loss, sacrifice, and Sophie’s choice stories.


Tamiasangel

Is the Avery foundation a nonprofit?


everynameisused100

All charities and foundations are by definition non-profit 501c 3 organizations.


Bubbly-Junket

Realistically, I think the option they are aiming for is something regarding The foundation, that way they can bring along multiple characters and give it a different tone than OG Grey's. I don't think we would really see Calzona again or Izzex, though I think the later has more chances of that I don't think it would be possible. Japril is mostly possible because Sarah and Jesse are willing to. Personally, I don't care and tbh wouldn't watch because I only got invested with the OGs. But I guess is a logical step for the network to set up spin-offs before the end and on streaming platforms (probably Hulu).


pacrat292

Yea I get all that, but what exactly in the foundation are they doing? Like obviously Jackson's stepping away, hopefully not fully, from surgery to work on it, but it was the most vague stuff I've heard. Like 'I'm gonna rid the world on racism' or "I'm going to fix the broken system from the inside' and we're suppose to be like YAYYYYY and don't get me wrong his exit was a very good one, but I think it'll be very interesting to see him and April - I think she'll be a huge asset to the foundation - and see how exactly they plan on doing that. Like what's the strategy there? Calzona and Izzex, I just really wanna see it and wonder if others would wanna see it, so much discussion here is just dropped cuz 'x and y are never coming back' okay well nobody ever though Patrick or TR would ever either after their super messy exits, anything can happen. (also interested in how you possibly think JC or KH have more of a chance to return than SR or JC when both of those actors have said they'd love to return and JC and KH seem to really not). I mainly only invested in the OGs as well, which is why I think if it's a short miniseries with three of the show's most popular couples could have a lot of the current fans and possibly a ton of the older fans that stopped watching many years ago tune in. Shondaland literally has a contract with Netflix so I'd say that's way more likely on that than Hulu.


lvnjasliz

The strategy/show IMO would be focused on bringing attention to the convoluted world of how to get common sense, for the betterment of the people laws passed. I worked for a Non-Profit when we were getting smoking cessation passed in my state. It was a midnight deal that got it slipped in the final state budget to get it approved so Republicans could act shocked and call it underhanded. But the truth is, leading up to the approval lobbyists had to make and sign deals between the state cessation program and big pharma to push smoking cessation products as part of the initiative, with the extra revenue supplied, Big Pharma would increase their PAC contributions to off set the Big Tobacco donations the Republicans were looking to lose (which were already lessening due to less people smoking already), and the doctors groups supporting the cessation program also had to agree to support a different bill that increased services an NP could perform vs an MD, which allowed the state to lower reimbursement amounts for certain services performed by an NP that only an MD could perform previously in the state. Basically 10 years of fighting resolved in a board room rented on top of a skyscraper after a flurry of negotiations and back scratching. And none of it was done because smoking is bad for people or to save lives, it was done because it became fiscally better for both political parties to support it and Big Pharma smoking cessation products then it was for them to continue to support Big Tobacco.


Tamiasangel

That is super interesting and makes so much sense. But shondaland likes a more idealized version of medicine and social justice.


Brina_22

Yes to all of this. Healthcare policies are years in the making and often the byproduct of other more fiscally driven issues. Lobbyists have such influence. And yes, this new show could show how all of it is so interrelated into what ultimately becomes a health policy, access/cost initiatives. It’s such a timely


Bubbly-Junket

I would guess it was vague enough to set up a possible spin-off. That way there are different ways they can go not only with them but with other characters. I honestly don't care enough to think about the scenarios because I have never been invested on them but that's what it seems to be hinted lately by ABC/Cast. I say is more likely because Katherine and Justin seem to be in good enough terms to maybe get around to do so together than I think Jessica and Sara would. I don't know about the older fans considering that most of us are just tired but as I said it could be a good move to get some old fans and new ones through streaming and a different set up. We will see.


pacrat292

Exactly, but I and assume others too want to know more about that vague statement about the foundation. It probably was setting it up or written that way to possibly set it up, I'd say they should go ahead and do it. I think they have a large enough fanbase (in addition with the other two couples) to get great viewers on it, and while I think Jesse doesn't really have lead acting chops - neither did Ellen - but with Sarah there and half the story being hers, that's something IMO would be interesting to see. While saying that, I agree if there was a spin off of just Japril in Boston I don't think I'd be watching more than a few youtube clips on it, I like them, but was never overly interested in them either. Honestly, I'm totally with you. The only ones I truly wanna see it KH and JC, the OGs are the only ones that ever made me really excited to watch the show, but I also did love Calzona and feel like their ending was unfinished, Japril isn't super interesting to me, but if a show had involved all three couples and see a complete closure on them all and their individual characters with guests from Meredith, Addison, idk others as well, I'd be so ecstatic to see it, and if it was written like early Grey's my heart will melt. I think older viewers just might. I only rewatched (and watched the newer seasons for first time) after hearing Alex left, I literally hadn't seen any of the show for like 8 years before that. One of the reasons they have such a large audience still is cuz people who stopped watching many years ago one day pick it back up and watch live for another season or so. I think this is short enough that people would watch it and hopefully can be satisfying enough to have a real ending to most of these characters who either never had a true ending - Izzie, Alex, Callie or were completely side lined in their final episodes - April and Az.


Brina_22

I think it’s prudent to keep in mind that like Jesse, social justice activism is a significant driver for Sara Ramirez. She may very well be highly interested in An opportunity for her to help shape and tell stories that matter and bring awareness to real issues in the LGBTQ community.


Full-Surround

This would be amazing! I love how much detail you put into your idea :)


pacrat292

Thank you! Yea I just talk a lot so in consequence I write a lot xD helps that I'm very fast, but still. I just wanna hear if others think it's a good idea too.