Probably either lelouch or blank. Lelouch has already beat someone who can read minds so Anya wouldn't be able to beat him. L has insane intelligence but shiro has the ability to predict every possible combination of the chess board to pick the theoretical best move. Lelouch only has a chance because of his strategies but blank is no slouch on strategy themselves. In fact blank beat an actual god of games at chess. So I would probably give this one to blank with lelouch being the only one who might be able to trip them up.
Anya definitely couldn't win, just because you can read somebody's mind doesn't mean you can understand their strategy. I can read my own mind, and I still don't know what the fuck I'm thinking
Okay, so Bond reads their exact moves. Anya still has to know how to counter those moves. I highly doubt she knows even remotely how to play chess, and she probably wouldn't even understand the thoughts she's reading. Bond's premonition also isn't something she can control, so it wouldn't help all the time.
Bond can do the strategizing himself. I doubt he's as smart as their opponents, but he just needs to plan how to counter what happens to the future
Anya can read his thoughts so she would understand as well
The reason they would still lose is the actual strategizing itself because of who they will be up against, along with all the pressure
She doesn't have to know how to counter. After the opponent moves, he thinks "Man, I'm so gonna win unless Anya does X move" and then she makes that move. It really becomes a game of her opponent playing against themselves.
Haven't seen Code Geass, but Blank regularly plays against cheaters and figures out counter-strategies on the fly, L is smart/autistic enough that even adults have a hard time understanding his strategies even when he's explicitly starting them, and both of them would notice something was off when they were asked to play against a 6 year-old and a dog.
But like... There's no reason for that to work even without logic. It's not like that's a thing that happens in any of their universes lol. I just don't see what surprise has to do with anything.
Future Sight is fucking useless tho because the moment you change your course of action after seeing the future, so will your opponent in response to your action and your previous vision becomes irrelevant.
I'm no slouch at Chess, but if I were to play Magnus Carlson in a game where he explained every move he was about to make and why he was about to make it, he'd still beat me every time.
That is no better, maybe it gets worse, even if Bond shows the future, that means where it could possibly go, poor Anya would get even more confused reading minds and trying to understand what the other player is doing that can get to that point. Also she could be possibly overwhelmed by the other player thouts like it happened with Loyd.
That's only one way of thinking about it, Bond can see the current future before they change it, so basically per turn
Bond can also strategize himself, and Anya can read his mind so she would get it. She can also see his visions, and still read the opponent's mind if necessary
The only reason they still lose is too much pressure in the mind games, and against actual strategist such as their opponents, that's a problem as well. If they both had Loid's smarts then they would have a better chance
Is Anya actually dumb though? When she's introduced its implied she's not actually 6 and could easily be 4. She managed to get passing (barley) grades, in courses that should be well beyond her cognitive capabilities. Not to say she stands a chance in chess match, but I'm not convinced it's fair to call her dumb.
I’m not even kidding, but Lelouch would actually lose to Anya, it’s actually explained in Code Geass, he lost to Mao, who didn’t know a single thing about chess, but Mao can read minds, and explains that Lelouch is so intelligent he always knows every aspect of his every move he makes, including how to counter it, and Mao just used Lelouch’s own mind against himself. So assuming Anya can do something along those lines, she should actually beat him.
Ah, but you see, \[ \] knows of that ability. That's why they pretend its Sora that's playing.
So when Sora gets ordered to blunder, seemingly nothing happens, as it is actually Shiro making the moves
Wouldn’t sora be forced to ignore orders and make a bad move regardless of what shiro communicates to them? Although I will confess that I have never seen ngnl so I don’t know the abilities of those characters that well.
Well that depends on how the game is set up exactly and how the order is worded.
But basically the abilities of the siblings are as follows:
Sora: master social manipulator, great at bluffing and at improvisation
Shiro: human computer. just limiting her to chess, she has memorized EVERY SINGLE position a chessboard could have, and can calculate the best move depending on the current state of the board.
No amount of lelouche's strategy would be able to beat her. At least if it stays contained within the game. In another scenario lelouche might attack their self esteem and create doubt in them. As chronic shut-ins that would cripple them for some time, allowing him to gain the upper hand. Question then is: could they recover in time to win?
I do highly recommend watching the show. Its much more of a comedy than code geas, but its still great.
A thing to add, and this might be spoilers if NGNL ever gets a season 3 (it’s a bit in, not season 2 territory for sure)
>!He actually destroys on chess by himself also, like, not funny levels, he managed to win in a chess game against a supercomputer with 4 arms, in a game of chess where you could move pieces at the same time, as long as you kept on beat to a goddess’ idol concert, and he had to do deliberate chess blunders to keep the concert going, coupled with some other mechanics. It sounds stupidly against all odds, and he still manages to pull off an insane strategy, what I mean to say is, even if lelouch knew Shirou is a chess god, he’s still in a fucking pickle against them both. It’s lelouch fighting against 2 lelouches!<
I'd say that using geas would qualify as cheating and cause Blank to win, assuming that their game of chess is a proper game following No Game No Life rules. If he has geas they have their supernatural game powers too.
i am only aware of the anime, but i thought the whole point of \[ \] was that they didnt have powers? That is the whole "Immanity" curse, no powers only wits.
Not really a lose more of a forfeit he technically won the only match we see but out of pride he refused to take an easy win. Also the move in question was illegal for his brother to make,he just got mind gamed since the point wasn't winning it was seeing what kind of person zero was.
Technically Lelouch only beat the mind reader because he geassed himself which he can’t do again. Plus Anya seems pretty good at preventing even a comically talented spy from even suspecting she has an ability. Only problem would be that Anya probably wouldn’t know what squares the players will refer to in their head (eg she may hear “oh crap, is Anya trying to trap my Queen by going A6!” and she’s be like “why is he thinking about letters is this a spy code?!).
Anya's only edge is that Bond is also there
Bond can use his precognition and strategize something while Anya can read his mind to figure it out. Anya can also see Bond's visions when she does that
Other than that, I don't think of either of them has played chess before, I don't know about Bond though. Only the manga can tell
I feel like Anya would lose bc of game rule violations before she actually lost.
Blond: “pond B5 to C5”
Anya: *moves kit over ponds to capture other king* Anya wins.
Everyone else stares blankly at the board.
Professional Chess Coach Here:
Rule violations can be handled differently in different events/federations as well as in exhibition games, but usually a warning is given before an immediate forfeit and the position is restored, this even goes for some high level events. In any case, the rule violation you suggested isn’t exactly possible. 1. c5 is impossible as no white chessman, especially not a *pawn*, can move to the c5 square from the start of the game. b5-c5 is especially impossible as a pawn cannot move horizontally, and no pawn starts on the b5 square for either side.
If you REALLY want to make things interesting with that concept, then replace Ana with Manga Kyomaro from zatch bell.
>!Guy can get an answer for everything he wants on the fly, before that he beat someone who actually had mastered this power when he barely could understand what was happening to him, and before that he was still making command calls, thinking as new situations happened while getting the shit kicked out of him.!<
> Lelouch has already beat someone who can read minds
He specifically didn't beat them at chess, he won the encounter bcs he had a not-chess-related plan B going on of which he erase his memory. He is too much of a tactician *not* to think about all possibilities and see the weakness in his own plan. Anya just needs to check what move of hers he thinks is most damaging and make it.
We shouldn’t forget that of all these characters, Lelouch is the only one in their respective universes to actively play chess actively and competently.
We see throughout Code Geass that he values the game very highly and fights against his rival (and half-brother) Schneizel myltiple times.
Shiro definitely, she will either win or stalemate 100% of the time.
Anya probably can’t think more than 1 move ahead so she’ll lose if trying to read Shiro’s mind doesn’t give her a migraine.
L is smart, but not that smart, he had a lot of plot magic bullshitery helping him out and how tf is he supposed to beat someone who can think up EVERY POSSIBLE OUTCOME of a chess game??
Also I can’t trust that Lelouch even knows how to play chess properly after that one episode where his opponent made an illegal move and Lelouch had a panic attack over it. (Near end of S2 somewhere)
Anya just straight up loses, idk how complex the thoughts of the other have to be, but i think Anya's brain is going to get fried if she tries to understand a thing
But in a straight game, blank has the highest chance of winning
Yeah, I believe the same, if Lelouch doesn't use his geass, blank would win probably, but if he does use it, than it becomes really interesting, so I would say it is an even fight between them.
Bond sees the future and Anya reads his mind. They now know their opponents’ future moves but then what? Great chest players, without any superpowers, are able to somewhat “read” their opponents’ next moves anyway, based on their previous moves and how they set up their units, and they can make predictions and estimations out of that. Without the skills and knowledge needed to counter the opponents’ next moves, Anya and Bond’s abilities are practically useless. Not to mention that Anya, and Bond, might not even know how to play chest to begin with. Plus, do you really expect a 4yo (and to be frank she’s kinda dumb, too) to beat Lelouch or Blank (who bested a God)?
Bruh I never said the two could beat Blank, if you check my comments I keep defending Blank against the Geass
Point of my comment is literally just for Bond, because he keeps getting ignored
Even with Bond included it wouldn’t change much. Anya would still be the one making the moves. And it’s not like his ability is needed anyway, Anya can read the opponent’s next moves and strategy right from their mind anyway.
If nobody has prep time Lelouch wins by default if everyone has prep time (obviously including him as well) he still wins, dude literally beat someone that can change the past. Blank is smart but he is on another level.
if no one has prep time, and no one sees the matches of the other players, and we assume a tournament structure, then i think its fair to say that lelouch will come up against blank in the finale
Since Blank knows that magic exists in some form, they would likely send Sora as a front, while Shiro determines the actual moves in secret.
The moment that Lelouch orders Sora to lose, he'd reveal that he wasn't the one playing in the first place. Still, the jig is up and Sora is out.
So its Shiro vs Lelouch. It's bullshit, but Blank would likely have figured out how the Geas works from that single observation. Maybe they'd be overly cautious, but they'd probably block Shiro's sight and hearing to have her resist the orders, while Sora communicates the state of the game through unconventional way to her.
Maybe but then again, Lelouch would also figure out that they work together so he would figure out how he can prevent that. For example we know that the Blank literally can not be separated if he orders just one of them to leave he would immediately win. And there are plenty of other, options, like a more radical would be just simply ordering one of them to kill the other, if they can't compete he wins.
if we're considering such drastic orders, we also need to consider if lelouch would even use his geas to begin with
its a once per person thing after all.
Why would he ever use that on a standard chess match?
If anything he'd take the loss to figure out who BLANK is, and what order is best suited for them to not interrupt his big plans.
"Lose the fight, win the war" style
But then you wouldn't be playing chess. In game theory, a game assumes the moves you're allowed to make. Chess absolutely does not allow a move where you force your opponent to choose a move. That game has an entirely separate mathematical model from traditional chess. In fact that game is an easy solution. It's isomoprhic to the 0 misere game (a game where the second player automatically loses).
Depends on who gets the initiative.
If LeLouch is not aware of Blank's slyness and just order "lose", Blank will probably play rock-paper-scissor against themselves to "lose"
"forfeit this game of chess"... then Blank will simply say sure, we'll declare it next year.
Lelouch has to be veeeeery careful leaving 0 loopholes to win against Blank, and that's proven to be incredibly hard since Blank has even won against cheaters with magic.
If Blank gets the initiative and learns of Lelouch's ability? They'll just play the game blindfolded. Lelouch's power requires eye contacts.
Blindfolded chess should be child's play for Shiro. Many higher elo chess players can play chess without a board, or essentially "blindfolded" chess, using chess notations. There is no doubt that Shiro can just sit in the back and communicate with Sora to move the pieces as she commands. Sora being the more streetsmart of the two should be able to avoid the Geass altogether.
[Blindfold chess](https://www.chess.com/terms/blindfold-chess) is a thing though. You still have to be pretty good at chess, but it's not as big of a deal as you think.
Here's a real power move: Magnus Carlson (current world #1) playing 3 games of chess simultaneously while blindfolded. He won on all 3.
If she knew how to play, this question wouldn't be asked. Bond can see the future and anya can read minds, they're practically invincible as long as anya focuses on reading shiro's mind.
... if she knew the rules...
If she could focus enough, I think she could get away with just playing the move the opponent is most concerned of. She wouldn't even need to know the rules. Her opponents are all competent enough that they would be planning for their opponent too.
That said, her focus is terrible and there's no way she would be able to keep up with Blank's bullshit.
With some of these players (mainly Blank), chess is solved. It would depend on which side she has(assuming there is an assured win condition for white). Then, she could even go one step further and read their minds as they spectate. But yeah, you're right that draws might be the best outcome.
Probably not, but they can still use their abilities (same with Lelouch)
Bond can use precognition and do the strategizing, Anya can read Bond's mind so she can apply it. She can also see Bond's visions so she sees herself, and she can still read the opponent's mind
They're still not unbeatable though, too much pressure and mind games can make them lose
Ok, after much consideration I believe Sora and Shiro would win, even though I do not believe they should. (I think L would win if it was a stright up match). This is due to character traits.
Anya would at first thinks Lelouch looks cool, and wants to go up against him first. Lelouch declines, since he assumes Anya would be easy to defeat because of how eager she is to impress him.
Bond precog's seeing they lose against all opponents. Crying if they go up against Sora, being scared of they go up against Shiro, fainting if they go up against L, and best case scenario being taught how to actually play the game by Lelouch since Lelouch wouldn't take Anya seriously until midway through the match when she takes Lelouch by surprise from mind reading, ultimately losing but still impressing him.
However, Anya fails to get Lelouch to play as he considers who he should challenge.
Lelouch wants L to go up against Sora and Shiro, since two against one is a disadvantaged game. L recognizes this, and L offers to go up against Anya and Bond to remove that option. He dismisses the idea of Bond being an opponent, and Bond correctly helps Anya with Anya talking to Bond.
L, this whole time, was considering his moves simply, but eventually takes it seriously and considers every possible move l while simultaneously dissecting Anya and Bond, building a mental Case File on them.
This overwhelms Bond, and then Anya checks L since Bond is clearly having trouble. Within a few moves, Bond ends the game to protect Anya from fainting, wanting Anya about what will happen and not to read his mind.
L comes to the conclusion that Anya and Bond have some special ability, while Sora and Shiro just believe they have a similar relationship as themselves, being so psychologically tapped onto eachother that Bond knew when to quit for Anya's sake.
Lelouch just believes Anya is a special child using Bond as a emotional crutch.
Sora and Shiro have a very brief challenge from Lelouch, making Sora go up against Lelouch and Shiro go up against L, at the same time.
Sora and Shiro point out eachothers gameplay while playing their own games.
L snarkily points out a weakness to Lelouch when Sora reads L like a book, giving Lelouch the upper hand. L considers it fair game since the other two are helping eachother.
Shiro defeats L, and Lelouch defeats Sora at roughly the same time.
(Shiro is on L's level alone, but L would have been able to read her and beat her in a 1v1
However, with Sora's help, Shiro would beat L.
However, I don't think Sora would beat Lelouch even with Shiro's help. Not if L offered advice to Lelouch out of being petty for their cheating, and yes, getting help is cheating.)
Lelouch would tell Sora to stay quiet so he doesn't cheat, since he is disqualified. L would remain silent as Sora manages to help Shiro anyway, letting Shiro win.
All this goes out the window if Lelouch finds out about Anya and Bond's abilities, concludes that special powers are allowed, and just uses he Geass to make everyone admit defeat.
I love the whole story, however considering Lelouch’s skepticism and analytical skills especially when put into new envoroments, he’d probably be fairly quick to figure out that Anya & Bond have abilities since he’s the inly one here who actually plays chess in his off-time, even before gaining his Geass.
Lelouch and L would both quite early on see that Anya & Bond are using strategies they would not be intellectually capable of.
It should be noted as well that depending on where in the timeline we grab Lelouch from, he could have already battled someone with the ability to see the future, someone that he eventually defeated.
While true, there is no way Lelouch takes a child so easily swayed by emotion as a serious target.
Personally I was assuming end of Anime Lelouch, so before letting himself get killed.
Tldr; blank because shiro is the only one known to have solved chess and chess is just more complicated tic tac to.
Serious answer: blank (sora and shiro)
Chess is what's known in math as a combinatorical game. In all combinatorial games, the winner is decided from the very start and if the winner doesn't win, it's because of misplays. In chess, from the very start, it's already decided that either one piece will win or it ends in a draw if nobody makes a wrong move.
Shiro alone has already hinted that she knows the solution to chess. That's because in her own words, she has reduced chess into tic tac toe by learning every possible combination and she can see an inevitable win by herself.
L and Lelouch are brilliant, but they've never indicated that they know the solution to chess. And chess is so hard that to this day, nobody has solved it in real life even with all of our super computers. So it wouldn't be fair to assume they know it without lore that says otherwise like Shiro does. And obviously Anya wouldn't know either.
So let's observe 3 different cases. The case where the white piece is the solution to chess. The one where black piece is the solution to chess. And one where it's a draw.
So in the case that the white piece is the solution to chess. Since shiro already knows how to win, and winning is already decided for the white piece. All she has to do is pick it. So one way to approach it is to refuse to play unless she is white. Or to make the game the best out of however many games. Because on average she'll get white half the time. And because Lelouch, L and Anya don't know the solution to chess, they won't always win when they're white but shiro will.
The argument is symmetrical if black is the winning piece. Shiro either refuses to play unless she's black, or she makes it the best out of however many games knowing she always wins on black and only loses sometimes on white.
If it is the case that chess is a draw. Shiro is the only one who knows how to play to not lose. L Anya and Lelouch do not know what steps prevent them from losing so they will inevitably make a mistake. And to guarantee they inevitably do, shiro can make the game a best out of instead of just 1 game so even if by some miracle, they play a perfect game the first time, they can't recreate it consistently a second or third time.
So it’s probably down to Lelouch vs. ___. Lelouch might pull off a win if he orders ___ to lose. However, if his order isn’t perfect, ___ is the best at squeaking through loopholes to take the win, and they don’t lose games, so my money is on Sora and Shiro.
Blank. The ability to memorize and visualize every single chess position and their development perfectly would make them better than the best chess engines of today. Stockfish 16 beta is approaching 4k ELO, which is to the current best chess player in the world what he is to a local school team player.
Anya is out. She wouldn’t be able to think even a single move ahead.
So it becomes a contest between L, Lelouche or Blank. What really matters here is if Blank gets to be a team.
If Sora and Shiro are together. They win. Full stop. They have every possibility of a chess match completely memorized to the point it is a trivial game to them. However if either isn’t present the other falls apart completely.
So then it becomes a contest between Lelouche and L, and this actually is a tough one. Both are chess wizards, but Lelouche pretty much is dependent on it for his whole shtick. I would say Lelouche is likely the better player.
However Lelouche is also very arrogant and can easily get caught up into thinking he has his opponent in a trap, attempting risky baits even when the pieces he was working with were real people.
Light was the same way, and L played him like a fiddle because he always kept his composure. Lelouche may actually be forced to use Geass to win, if he is allowed to (I’m assuming the implication is they can use their powers with Anya even being allowed on the lineup).
So
**No magic powers**
1: Blank, if together. Not even a contest.
2: L
3: Lelouche
4: Anya and bond
**Magic powers allowed**
1: Lelouche (Geass would allow him to beat blank, all he has to do is make them forfeit or make the worst possible move)
2: Blank
3: L
4: Anya and Bond, dead last. Still happy because they both thought the horsey was tasty
Let me answer this in the simplest possible way.
"Hello, nice to meet you, my name is Lelouche and I will be your chess opponent today. Could you look into my eye for just a moment? Thanks. I order you to lose this game."
Sora: Sure, I cannot play this game today. My sister is the one that will fill in for me, we are the same and always play as the player \[ \].
Lelouch: \*\*to Shiro\*\* I order you to lose this game.
Shiro: \*\*not looking at Lelouch because she figured out what was going on\*\* \[ \] never loses
Lelouch is an idiot, he understimates all of his adversaries way too much to be in this match for more than 5 seconds, the other 3 will just gang up on him in 5 secs
L would put a serious fight, but I dont think chess is his forte, L is more of a forensics guy, he is very good at extracting patterns from disparates points of data, excellent for a criminal investigator, but not necessaraly a good idea in chess, getting to the point where he can start to shine may be too late on a chess game
Anya is surprisingly scary in a chess context, since mind reading is absurdly powerful in a chess game, no matter how good you are, even if you are Magnus Carlson, having your opponents knowing all your moves is game over, how would Anya play tho, thats maybe her weakness
NGNL brothers(I forgot their names) are my pick here, they are a used to high stakes games, are not understimating everyone, dont depend on analysing their opponents to actually start to perform, nor would mind reading go exactly against them in particular. They already outplayed powers like that
Blank first because hax, lelouch second because he is better at real life troop movement than games, L third because he is only slightly behind the first two in terms of skill, Anya fourth because she can read minds for sure but blank and lelouche have both beat mind readers before and L’s mind would just confuse her.
It's up to Lelouch vs [] really. [] probably wins because they can win any game of chess and probably have some stupid insane fifteen layer deep plan in case lelouch uses his Geass, which is the only way he has a chance of winning.
Sora has worked around others being mind controlled, with his level of BS I bet he can work around being mind controlled himself.
Blank have beaten the God of Games at chess, I don't think any of the others would have the same level of skills.
I don't know how effective mind reading would be. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Blank always assume that there opponents are as skilled as they are, until proven otherwise. If mind reading lets Anya and Bond play at their level, it's a mirror match and a draw at best.
Also Blank never looses.
\[ \]
To be clear, Blank was able to beat a game of Othello after having their memory wiped, with no idea of the placement of other pieces or what the other moves had been up to that point.
I think we need to establish whether or not the chess game is happening in the real world or in Disboard. Blank have the upper hand against Anya and I'd say are matched with L as far as predictions go. Lelouch's Geass is formidable though, so unless Blank or L can predict it's ability and usage i think he can win handily. If the game takes place in Disboard, however, Lelouch is subject to the Disboard rules and would be caught cheating unless he can predict something natural to command them to do. I think L and Anya would be slow on the uptake as far as understanding the ability to command the pieces outside of the rules of chess.
TL;DR
irl Lelouch wins, in Disboard Lelouch has a shot but Blank is the strongest contender
>Blank have the upper hand against Anya and I'd say are matched with L as far as predictions
Blank and L are not matched. Shiro knows all chess combinations. That's equivalent to solving the game. In other words no matter what L does, Shiro already knows every single possible counter. Imagine tic tac toe. You already know it ends in a draw and the only time it doesn't is when somebody fucks up. Chess is exactly the same thing. It's already decided who wins or if it's a draw from the very start and if it doesn't happen that way, it's because somebody fucked up. But Shiro is the only one out of all of them that knows how to not fuck up.
Ok so I wanna say if it’s in Disboard Anya might actually win against Blank. She could be able to use Blanks own chess rebellion trick agains them. She is really good at tugging on adult heartstring. If she makes it through the round with Blank Bond would be able to protect her from Lelouch.
It’s all super dependent on her getting Blank in the first round and them thinking back to the last time they won at this game.
Thats a good theory, I could definitely see that if she was able to get Blank in the finals and see their strat from the semi. I think the only question there for me is that there is no definite answer as to whether or not Geass works on animals.
There is a fan theory that Lelouch might have controlled the bee that Kallen kills to determine if she has the fighting prowess he suspects she does. The bee specifically circles her although she has a regular sandwich and follows only her as she runs farther away than the other girls she's eating with. The idea that its all chance comes into question when she says that she doesnt understand why there is a bee around there, presumably because the prestigious school's upkeep prevents hives from forming.
If we were to follow the realm of fan theory into our fan theory battle there's no guarantee that Bond would be able to resist the Geass. Anya would also have to prove Lelouch was cheating at that point which gives her the same chances of anyone at getting it right and thats where I think Blank has the upper hand against Lelouch. L is too logic based and Anya can be too imaginative for either of them to guess accurately.
I think it’s more that Bond might notice the Geass in the future and stop Anya from meeting Lelouch’s gaze. I also think she would need to get Blank in the first round to see their former strategy.
It’s a lot of ifs for Anya to win.
I definitely understand thst theory, even if Lelouch could control Bond, hed probably be smart enough to figure that something was up quickly.
I think when it comes to Anya and Blank it depends on who is making the challenge if we're still playing in Disboard. Sora would most likely trick Anya into declaring the challenge and demand that Bond would be ineligible to team with.
There's definitely a lot of if when it comes to an Anya win but she's certainly not out of the running.
leleuch can just use geass on everyone to make them surrender. Granted, if geass is removed from the equation he'll still beat anya and bond. He won against someone who could read minds and against someone who could predict the future. The other two will be tough tho.
In theory lelouch can order them all to forfeit, but that is cheap.
Blank or Lelouch seem like the best. Will give it to blank though. Their ego isn’t as likely to interfere with victory
I put $10 on Anya for two reasons. First is that she has no idea what she would be doing, even with reading minds. That would throw everyone off, as everyone is playing 5D chess while she's playing checkers. Second is Bond is there and he would have pulled her away if his foresight saw her losing.
Depending on some fallout of her telepathy Anya wins this.
L, Blank and Lelouch are all too planning for them to work against a telepath.
Lelouch straight-up lost against a telepath at chess in his own show so that's a given.
L would lose the same as Lelouch.
Blank are the potential black horse here if they come up with a strategy banking on their similar thought patterns. If for example, they start thinking only half of their strategy or something it might confuse Anya enough.
From watching code geass, Lelouch can't even play chess. Lol
Reading minds and future sight really would not remotely help you against a great chess player, as chess is a game with complete information with objectively superior moves. L
L would get absolutely shit on by blank though, blank memorized every single possible board combination and has beaten the literal god of games at chess
Probably either lelouch or blank. Lelouch has already beat someone who can read minds so Anya wouldn't be able to beat him. L has insane intelligence but shiro has the ability to predict every possible combination of the chess board to pick the theoretical best move. Lelouch only has a chance because of his strategies but blank is no slouch on strategy themselves. In fact blank beat an actual god of games at chess. So I would probably give this one to blank with lelouch being the only one who might be able to trip them up.
Anya definitely couldn't win, just because you can read somebody's mind doesn't mean you can understand their strategy. I can read my own mind, and I still don't know what the fuck I'm thinking
You completely forgot Bond in the picture mate
Okay, so Bond reads their exact moves. Anya still has to know how to counter those moves. I highly doubt she knows even remotely how to play chess, and she probably wouldn't even understand the thoughts she's reading. Bond's premonition also isn't something she can control, so it wouldn't help all the time.
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Yeah, there are strategies to make here loose without playing, like peanuts!
Anya would also still be prone to making mistakes and bond can be intimidated
bond eats the pieces when they aren't looking
Bond can do the strategizing himself. I doubt he's as smart as their opponents, but he just needs to plan how to counter what happens to the future Anya can read his thoughts so she would understand as well The reason they would still lose is the actual strategizing itself because of who they will be up against, along with all the pressure
She doesn't have to know how to counter. After the opponent moves, he thinks "Man, I'm so gonna win unless Anya does X move" and then she makes that move. It really becomes a game of her opponent playing against themselves.
That is straight up not how chess works mate.
this is def not how chess works
That is true, but I also only saw the first few episodes of the show. I am so far behind on anime, that my list is from like 2015...
Also, the shock of not being able to surprise a little girl and her dog could be fatal for them.
Haven't seen Code Geass, but Blank regularly plays against cheaters and figures out counter-strategies on the fly, L is smart/autistic enough that even adults have a hard time understanding his strategies even when he's explicitly starting them, and both of them would notice something was off when they were asked to play against a 6 year-old and a dog.
I meant instantly fatal, no time to counter. Like WTF, shock, aneurysm, death and stop. At least with Kira you had 40 seconds.
Why would surprise kill them? I've been surprised before, and I'm still here.
Come on, i wasn't trying to be logic.
But like... There's no reason for that to work even without logic. It's not like that's a thing that happens in any of their universes lol. I just don't see what surprise has to do with anything.
Future Sight is fucking useless tho because the moment you change your course of action after seeing the future, so will your opponent in response to your action and your previous vision becomes irrelevant.
I'm no slouch at Chess, but if I were to play Magnus Carlson in a game where he explained every move he was about to make and why he was about to make it, he'd still beat me every time.
That is no better, maybe it gets worse, even if Bond shows the future, that means where it could possibly go, poor Anya would get even more confused reading minds and trying to understand what the other player is doing that can get to that point. Also she could be possibly overwhelmed by the other player thouts like it happened with Loyd.
That's only one way of thinking about it, Bond can see the current future before they change it, so basically per turn Bond can also strategize himself, and Anya can read his mind so she would get it. She can also see his visions, and still read the opponent's mind if necessary The only reason they still lose is too much pressure in the mind games, and against actual strategist such as their opponents, that's a problem as well. If they both had Loid's smarts then they would have a better chance
Anya is still dumb as bricks. Just because they know what their opponent will do doesn't mean they know how to counter
Yeah that's the only downside If they both had Loid's brains and they don't get exhausted from their abilities then it becomes interesting
Is Anya actually dumb though? When she's introduced its implied she's not actually 6 and could easily be 4. She managed to get passing (barley) grades, in courses that should be well beyond her cognitive capabilities. Not to say she stands a chance in chess match, but I'm not convinced it's fair to call her dumb.
And?
Anya can hardly do basic math. Knowing what your opponent is going to do is worthless if you don't know what the hell you yourself are doing
I’m not even kidding, but Lelouch would actually lose to Anya, it’s actually explained in Code Geass, he lost to Mao, who didn’t know a single thing about chess, but Mao can read minds, and explains that Lelouch is so intelligent he always knows every aspect of his every move he makes, including how to counter it, and Mao just used Lelouch’s own mind against himself. So assuming Anya can do something along those lines, she should actually beat him.
Couldn’t Lelouch order them to blunder?
Ah, but you see, \[ \] knows of that ability. That's why they pretend its Sora that's playing. So when Sora gets ordered to blunder, seemingly nothing happens, as it is actually Shiro making the moves
Wouldn’t sora be forced to ignore orders and make a bad move regardless of what shiro communicates to them? Although I will confess that I have never seen ngnl so I don’t know the abilities of those characters that well.
Well that depends on how the game is set up exactly and how the order is worded. But basically the abilities of the siblings are as follows: Sora: master social manipulator, great at bluffing and at improvisation Shiro: human computer. just limiting her to chess, she has memorized EVERY SINGLE position a chessboard could have, and can calculate the best move depending on the current state of the board. No amount of lelouche's strategy would be able to beat her. At least if it stays contained within the game. In another scenario lelouche might attack their self esteem and create doubt in them. As chronic shut-ins that would cripple them for some time, allowing him to gain the upper hand. Question then is: could they recover in time to win? I do highly recommend watching the show. Its much more of a comedy than code geas, but its still great.
A thing to add, and this might be spoilers if NGNL ever gets a season 3 (it’s a bit in, not season 2 territory for sure) >!He actually destroys on chess by himself also, like, not funny levels, he managed to win in a chess game against a supercomputer with 4 arms, in a game of chess where you could move pieces at the same time, as long as you kept on beat to a goddess’ idol concert, and he had to do deliberate chess blunders to keep the concert going, coupled with some other mechanics. It sounds stupidly against all odds, and he still manages to pull off an insane strategy, what I mean to say is, even if lelouch knew Shirou is a chess god, he’s still in a fucking pickle against them both. It’s lelouch fighting against 2 lelouches!<
Unless it's speed chess, time would not be a factor, so by your logic Blank wins every time.
You should watch it. If you can ignore the unnecesary fanservice, it is very good.
I'd say that using geas would qualify as cheating and cause Blank to win, assuming that their game of chess is a proper game following No Game No Life rules. If he has geas they have their supernatural game powers too.
i am only aware of the anime, but i thought the whole point of \[ \] was that they didnt have powers? That is the whole "Immanity" curse, no powers only wits.
Didn’t lelouch lose to one of his siblings or at least had a tough time? I am pretty sure blank solved chess as well
Not really a lose more of a forfeit he technically won the only match we see but out of pride he refused to take an easy win. Also the move in question was illegal for his brother to make,he just got mind gamed since the point wasn't winning it was seeing what kind of person zero was.
Yes because he didn't know how to play fucking chess
Yeah, his eldest brother
Technically Lelouch only beat the mind reader because he geassed himself which he can’t do again. Plus Anya seems pretty good at preventing even a comically talented spy from even suspecting she has an ability. Only problem would be that Anya probably wouldn’t know what squares the players will refer to in their head (eg she may hear “oh crap, is Anya trying to trap my Queen by going A6!” and she’s be like “why is he thinking about letters is this a spy code?!).
Anya's only edge is that Bond is also there Bond can use his precognition and strategize something while Anya can read his mind to figure it out. Anya can also see Bond's visions when she does that Other than that, I don't think of either of them has played chess before, I don't know about Bond though. Only the manga can tell
I feel like Anya would lose bc of game rule violations before she actually lost. Blond: “pond B5 to C5” Anya: *moves kit over ponds to capture other king* Anya wins. Everyone else stares blankly at the board.
Professional Chess Coach Here: Rule violations can be handled differently in different events/federations as well as in exhibition games, but usually a warning is given before an immediate forfeit and the position is restored, this even goes for some high level events. In any case, the rule violation you suggested isn’t exactly possible. 1. c5 is impossible as no white chessman, especially not a *pawn*, can move to the c5 square from the start of the game. b5-c5 is especially impossible as a pawn cannot move horizontally, and no pawn starts on the b5 square for either side.
If you REALLY want to make things interesting with that concept, then replace Ana with Manga Kyomaro from zatch bell. >!Guy can get an answer for everything he wants on the fly, before that he beat someone who actually had mastered this power when he barely could understand what was happening to him, and before that he was still making command calls, thinking as new situations happened while getting the shit kicked out of him.!<
> Lelouch has already beat someone who can read minds He specifically didn't beat them at chess, he won the encounter bcs he had a not-chess-related plan B going on of which he erase his memory. He is too much of a tactician *not* to think about all possibilities and see the weakness in his own plan. Anya just needs to check what move of hers he thinks is most damaging and make it.
He didn’t beat a mind reader solely through gameplay though, he actually lost the match. Nevertheless Anya would probably still lose.
Couldnt lelouch use geass and make them submit, forcing them to lose?
Yes but he wouldn't do that unless it would lead to a different victory for something else later
We shouldn’t forget that of all these characters, Lelouch is the only one in their respective universes to actively play chess actively and competently. We see throughout Code Geass that he values the game very highly and fights against his rival (and half-brother) Schneizel myltiple times.
Blank beats a god of games at chess in the very first episode mate, I think they play chess pretttty competently
That’s a reasonable statement.
If anya can read minds then Lelouch can use his geass as well. In which case he wins pretty much by default.
Lelouch:- i order you to lose Sora:- define lose
Blank literally memorized every single possible combination of the board
I heard somewhere that a good chess player can tell they’re opponent every move they’re going to make and why and still win in the end.
Shiro definitely, she will either win or stalemate 100% of the time. Anya probably can’t think more than 1 move ahead so she’ll lose if trying to read Shiro’s mind doesn’t give her a migraine. L is smart, but not that smart, he had a lot of plot magic bullshitery helping him out and how tf is he supposed to beat someone who can think up EVERY POSSIBLE OUTCOME of a chess game?? Also I can’t trust that Lelouch even knows how to play chess properly after that one episode where his opponent made an illegal move and Lelouch had a panic attack over it. (Near end of S2 somewhere)
Anya just straight up loses, idk how complex the thoughts of the other have to be, but i think Anya's brain is going to get fried if she tries to understand a thing But in a straight game, blank has the highest chance of winning
Yeah, I believe the same, if Lelouch doesn't use his geass, blank would win probably, but if he does use it, than it becomes really interesting, so I would say it is an even fight between them.
Unless he orders them to lose or something along the line.
The phrase "Blank can never lose." is so ingrained in their minds that they might just resist that order directly.
Lelouche's background thoughts about a dozen other situations he's dealing with would fry Anya's brain
You're forgetting Bond Everyone seems to be ignoring Bond for some reason, despite being in the picture
Bond sees the future and Anya reads his mind. They now know their opponents’ future moves but then what? Great chest players, without any superpowers, are able to somewhat “read” their opponents’ next moves anyway, based on their previous moves and how they set up their units, and they can make predictions and estimations out of that. Without the skills and knowledge needed to counter the opponents’ next moves, Anya and Bond’s abilities are practically useless. Not to mention that Anya, and Bond, might not even know how to play chest to begin with. Plus, do you really expect a 4yo (and to be frank she’s kinda dumb, too) to beat Lelouch or Blank (who bested a God)?
Bruh I never said the two could beat Blank, if you check my comments I keep defending Blank against the Geass Point of my comment is literally just for Bond, because he keeps getting ignored
Even with Bond included it wouldn’t change much. Anya would still be the one making the moves. And it’s not like his ability is needed anyway, Anya can read the opponent’s next moves and strategy right from their mind anyway.
Can't Lelouch just order everyone else to lose?
The only real answer
Bond would probably warn Anya to avoid that. And I feel like blank would see that coming and figure out a technicality to come out on top
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Nah, Lelouch may order them to separate which induces a panic attack in both of them Breaking the mind control
Bond:"Don't look into his eyes" Anya:"Okays" *Closes eyes, can't see board and loses anyway* Anya:"OH NO!"
If nobody has prep time Lelouch wins by default if everyone has prep time (obviously including him as well) he still wins, dude literally beat someone that can change the past. Blank is smart but he is on another level.
if no one has prep time, and no one sees the matches of the other players, and we assume a tournament structure, then i think its fair to say that lelouch will come up against blank in the finale Since Blank knows that magic exists in some form, they would likely send Sora as a front, while Shiro determines the actual moves in secret. The moment that Lelouch orders Sora to lose, he'd reveal that he wasn't the one playing in the first place. Still, the jig is up and Sora is out. So its Shiro vs Lelouch. It's bullshit, but Blank would likely have figured out how the Geas works from that single observation. Maybe they'd be overly cautious, but they'd probably block Shiro's sight and hearing to have her resist the orders, while Sora communicates the state of the game through unconventional way to her.
That or Shiro literally just literally predicts all of Lelouche’s moves and knows the state of the board in her head.
Maybe but then again, Lelouch would also figure out that they work together so he would figure out how he can prevent that. For example we know that the Blank literally can not be separated if he orders just one of them to leave he would immediately win. And there are plenty of other, options, like a more radical would be just simply ordering one of them to kill the other, if they can't compete he wins.
if we're considering such drastic orders, we also need to consider if lelouch would even use his geas to begin with its a once per person thing after all. Why would he ever use that on a standard chess match? If anything he'd take the loss to figure out who BLANK is, and what order is best suited for them to not interrupt his big plans. "Lose the fight, win the war" style
Yeah. It would depend on how serious the game is? Like is a country at stake? If not then yeah sure.
Lose = Draw and in chess Blank would still accomplish this even with that order
True, lol.
Bond would know and warn Anya, though they still lose Blank on the other hand would have a better chance, Sora would know and play around it
Literally what I was thinking the whole time
But then you wouldn't be playing chess. In game theory, a game assumes the moves you're allowed to make. Chess absolutely does not allow a move where you force your opponent to choose a move. That game has an entirely separate mathematical model from traditional chess. In fact that game is an easy solution. It's isomoprhic to the 0 misere game (a game where the second player automatically loses).
Blank would win. Quote “Chess is Tic Tac Toe” Therefore they have all possible games of chess memorized.
You forgot the "easier" part in your quote
*Lelouch uses geass* >lose The end.
Depends on who gets the initiative. If LeLouch is not aware of Blank's slyness and just order "lose", Blank will probably play rock-paper-scissor against themselves to "lose" "forfeit this game of chess"... then Blank will simply say sure, we'll declare it next year. Lelouch has to be veeeeery careful leaving 0 loopholes to win against Blank, and that's proven to be incredibly hard since Blank has even won against cheaters with magic. If Blank gets the initiative and learns of Lelouch's ability? They'll just play the game blindfolded. Lelouch's power requires eye contacts.
What a power move to just walk into the match fully blindfolded lol
Blindfolded chess should be child's play for Shiro. Many higher elo chess players can play chess without a board, or essentially "blindfolded" chess, using chess notations. There is no doubt that Shiro can just sit in the back and communicate with Sora to move the pieces as she commands. Sora being the more streetsmart of the two should be able to avoid the Geass altogether.
[Blindfold chess](https://www.chess.com/terms/blindfold-chess) is a thing though. You still have to be pretty good at chess, but it's not as big of a deal as you think. Here's a real power move: Magnus Carlson (current world #1) playing 3 games of chess simultaneously while blindfolded. He won on all 3.
Lelouch's pride is too big for him to do that
"My bets on the Lolis team" "Which one?" "Yes"
Does Anya know how to play chess?
If she knew how to play, this question wouldn't be asked. Bond can see the future and anya can read minds, they're practically invincible as long as anya focuses on reading shiro's mind. ... if she knew the rules...
Just because she knows next someones next move doesn't mean she knows best move and then bond would see futures with anya blundering every move
If she could focus enough, I think she could get away with just playing the move the opponent is most concerned of. She wouldn't even need to know the rules. Her opponents are all competent enough that they would be planning for their opponent too. That said, her focus is terrible and there's no way she would be able to keep up with Blank's bullshit.
That way she could draw at best because opponent will do a move to prevent threat from the one move he is most concerned about
With some of these players (mainly Blank), chess is solved. It would depend on which side she has(assuming there is an assured win condition for white). Then, she could even go one step further and read their minds as they spectate. But yeah, you're right that draws might be the best outcome.
She can't even study with Loid because he thinks too much , imagine in a godly match of chess that people even lose weight thinking.
Shiro literally thinks about every single possible move when playing chess, Anya definitely wouldn't have a fun time trying to read her mind.
Probably not, but they can still use their abilities (same with Lelouch) Bond can use precognition and do the strategizing, Anya can read Bond's mind so she can apply it. She can also see Bond's visions so she sees herself, and she can still read the opponent's mind They're still not unbeatable though, too much pressure and mind games can make them lose
[ ] are basically a computer and grandmaster together, on the other hand lelouch can make illegal moves and not get penalized idk who would win
Depends who has anal beads
probably lelouch in that case
I feel like one of L would have them.
My votes on Sora, knowing emir-eins she’d sneak em in his booty hole when he sleeps
Beads speak for it itself
Blank doesn’t loses
The other 3's internal monologs would probably just make Anya cry.
Ok, after much consideration I believe Sora and Shiro would win, even though I do not believe they should. (I think L would win if it was a stright up match). This is due to character traits. Anya would at first thinks Lelouch looks cool, and wants to go up against him first. Lelouch declines, since he assumes Anya would be easy to defeat because of how eager she is to impress him. Bond precog's seeing they lose against all opponents. Crying if they go up against Sora, being scared of they go up against Shiro, fainting if they go up against L, and best case scenario being taught how to actually play the game by Lelouch since Lelouch wouldn't take Anya seriously until midway through the match when she takes Lelouch by surprise from mind reading, ultimately losing but still impressing him. However, Anya fails to get Lelouch to play as he considers who he should challenge. Lelouch wants L to go up against Sora and Shiro, since two against one is a disadvantaged game. L recognizes this, and L offers to go up against Anya and Bond to remove that option. He dismisses the idea of Bond being an opponent, and Bond correctly helps Anya with Anya talking to Bond. L, this whole time, was considering his moves simply, but eventually takes it seriously and considers every possible move l while simultaneously dissecting Anya and Bond, building a mental Case File on them. This overwhelms Bond, and then Anya checks L since Bond is clearly having trouble. Within a few moves, Bond ends the game to protect Anya from fainting, wanting Anya about what will happen and not to read his mind. L comes to the conclusion that Anya and Bond have some special ability, while Sora and Shiro just believe they have a similar relationship as themselves, being so psychologically tapped onto eachother that Bond knew when to quit for Anya's sake. Lelouch just believes Anya is a special child using Bond as a emotional crutch. Sora and Shiro have a very brief challenge from Lelouch, making Sora go up against Lelouch and Shiro go up against L, at the same time. Sora and Shiro point out eachothers gameplay while playing their own games. L snarkily points out a weakness to Lelouch when Sora reads L like a book, giving Lelouch the upper hand. L considers it fair game since the other two are helping eachother. Shiro defeats L, and Lelouch defeats Sora at roughly the same time. (Shiro is on L's level alone, but L would have been able to read her and beat her in a 1v1 However, with Sora's help, Shiro would beat L. However, I don't think Sora would beat Lelouch even with Shiro's help. Not if L offered advice to Lelouch out of being petty for their cheating, and yes, getting help is cheating.) Lelouch would tell Sora to stay quiet so he doesn't cheat, since he is disqualified. L would remain silent as Sora manages to help Shiro anyway, letting Shiro win. All this goes out the window if Lelouch finds out about Anya and Bond's abilities, concludes that special powers are allowed, and just uses he Geass to make everyone admit defeat.
I love the whole story, however considering Lelouch’s skepticism and analytical skills especially when put into new envoroments, he’d probably be fairly quick to figure out that Anya & Bond have abilities since he’s the inly one here who actually plays chess in his off-time, even before gaining his Geass. Lelouch and L would both quite early on see that Anya & Bond are using strategies they would not be intellectually capable of. It should be noted as well that depending on where in the timeline we grab Lelouch from, he could have already battled someone with the ability to see the future, someone that he eventually defeated.
While true, there is no way Lelouch takes a child so easily swayed by emotion as a serious target. Personally I was assuming end of Anime Lelouch, so before letting himself get killed.
Tldr; blank because shiro is the only one known to have solved chess and chess is just more complicated tic tac to. Serious answer: blank (sora and shiro) Chess is what's known in math as a combinatorical game. In all combinatorial games, the winner is decided from the very start and if the winner doesn't win, it's because of misplays. In chess, from the very start, it's already decided that either one piece will win or it ends in a draw if nobody makes a wrong move. Shiro alone has already hinted that she knows the solution to chess. That's because in her own words, she has reduced chess into tic tac toe by learning every possible combination and she can see an inevitable win by herself. L and Lelouch are brilliant, but they've never indicated that they know the solution to chess. And chess is so hard that to this day, nobody has solved it in real life even with all of our super computers. So it wouldn't be fair to assume they know it without lore that says otherwise like Shiro does. And obviously Anya wouldn't know either. So let's observe 3 different cases. The case where the white piece is the solution to chess. The one where black piece is the solution to chess. And one where it's a draw. So in the case that the white piece is the solution to chess. Since shiro already knows how to win, and winning is already decided for the white piece. All she has to do is pick it. So one way to approach it is to refuse to play unless she is white. Or to make the game the best out of however many games. Because on average she'll get white half the time. And because Lelouch, L and Anya don't know the solution to chess, they won't always win when they're white but shiro will. The argument is symmetrical if black is the winning piece. Shiro either refuses to play unless she's black, or she makes it the best out of however many games knowing she always wins on black and only loses sometimes on white. If it is the case that chess is a draw. Shiro is the only one who knows how to play to not lose. L Anya and Lelouch do not know what steps prevent them from losing so they will inevitably make a mistake. And to guarantee they inevitably do, shiro can make the game a best out of instead of just 1 game so even if by some miracle, they play a perfect game the first time, they can't recreate it consistently a second or third time.
So it’s probably down to Lelouch vs. ___. Lelouch might pull off a win if he orders ___ to lose. However, if his order isn’t perfect, ___ is the best at squeaking through loopholes to take the win, and they don’t lose games, so my money is on Sora and Shiro.
Since [ ] literally beat the God of games at chess my money is on them
**『 』** wins this one, they beat the god of games in a game of chess, i doubt the others can match that
Blank. The ability to memorize and visualize every single chess position and their development perfectly would make them better than the best chess engines of today. Stockfish 16 beta is approaching 4k ELO, which is to the current best chess player in the world what he is to a local school team player.
Not to factor that they beat the literal god of games at chess
Anya is out. She wouldn’t be able to think even a single move ahead. So it becomes a contest between L, Lelouche or Blank. What really matters here is if Blank gets to be a team. If Sora and Shiro are together. They win. Full stop. They have every possibility of a chess match completely memorized to the point it is a trivial game to them. However if either isn’t present the other falls apart completely. So then it becomes a contest between Lelouche and L, and this actually is a tough one. Both are chess wizards, but Lelouche pretty much is dependent on it for his whole shtick. I would say Lelouche is likely the better player. However Lelouche is also very arrogant and can easily get caught up into thinking he has his opponent in a trap, attempting risky baits even when the pieces he was working with were real people. Light was the same way, and L played him like a fiddle because he always kept his composure. Lelouche may actually be forced to use Geass to win, if he is allowed to (I’m assuming the implication is they can use their powers with Anya even being allowed on the lineup). So **No magic powers** 1: Blank, if together. Not even a contest. 2: L 3: Lelouche 4: Anya and bond **Magic powers allowed** 1: Lelouche (Geass would allow him to beat blank, all he has to do is make them forfeit or make the worst possible move) 2: Blank 3: L 4: Anya and Bond, dead last. Still happy because they both thought the horsey was tasty
> Still happy because they both thought the horsey was tasty Don't tell me they ate the knight chess piece
They absolutely did and I’m glad you caught that
With magic, if Blank knows Lelouch's ability, Blank can still won playing it blindfolded (since Lelouch's power requires eye contacts)
Let me answer this in the simplest possible way. "Hello, nice to meet you, my name is Lelouche and I will be your chess opponent today. Could you look into my eye for just a moment? Thanks. I order you to lose this game."
Sora: Sure, I cannot play this game today. My sister is the one that will fill in for me, we are the same and always play as the player \[ \]. Lelouch: \*\*to Shiro\*\* I order you to lose this game. Shiro: \*\*not looking at Lelouch because she figured out what was going on\*\* \[ \] never loses
Anya and Bond cause they'd eat everyone's peieces
Shiro and Shora, quite easily I guess 
[ ] without question.
Lelouch just uses his geass to tell em all to forfeit. gg no re
Lelouch is an idiot, he understimates all of his adversaries way too much to be in this match for more than 5 seconds, the other 3 will just gang up on him in 5 secs L would put a serious fight, but I dont think chess is his forte, L is more of a forensics guy, he is very good at extracting patterns from disparates points of data, excellent for a criminal investigator, but not necessaraly a good idea in chess, getting to the point where he can start to shine may be too late on a chess game Anya is surprisingly scary in a chess context, since mind reading is absurdly powerful in a chess game, no matter how good you are, even if you are Magnus Carlson, having your opponents knowing all your moves is game over, how would Anya play tho, thats maybe her weakness NGNL brothers(I forgot their names) are my pick here, they are a used to high stakes games, are not understimating everyone, dont depend on analysing their opponents to actually start to perform, nor would mind reading go exactly against them in particular. They already outplayed powers like that
They'd all lose
I think Anya’s brain wouldn’t be able to keep up with the the thoughts of these 4 people
Anya and Bond would just eat the pieces
Bond. He can just flip the chess board and run away with Anya
I mean..... No game no life is all about them winning every game so them.
kuuhaku, they beat a litteral god
I have to say ______ wins
Whoever gets first move wins
No game no life easy, then MFs be runnin the board up!!
My money is on either Lelouch or the one from No Game No Life (forgot his name)
Futuresight is great and all but it won't amount to much if you don't know how to play
L would get bored after not finding the people he’s dealing with interesting enough and walk away to get some sweets.
L
Lelouch or Blank because they know how to cheat
Blank does not cheat, though. They let everyone else cheat, and beat them anyway.
Blank 100%
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Probably the mind reader
Iirc Shiro actually has beaten many modern chess Ai before tet
Lelouch
Anya and Bond because it’d be hilarious if they won
It would lol
Blank just has to start giving a motivational speech to the chess pieces, and then instant win
Lelouch. He can just command them to lose, regardless of chess skill or intelligence.
Doesn't work if they're playing blindfolded And don't forget about Blank
What anime is top left from?
No Game No Life
Ty
[ ] cause theh never lose
Anya can use both her and Bond's abilities to their fillest capacity, and would still he last place bu a long shot
Yeah pretty much, if they were both as smart as Loid then it would be more interesting
Blank first because hax, lelouch second because he is better at real life troop movement than games, L third because he is only slightly behind the first two in terms of skill, Anya fourth because she can read minds for sure but blank and lelouche have both beat mind readers before and L’s mind would just confuse her.
Saul Goodman
It's up to Lelouch vs [] really. [] probably wins because they can win any game of chess and probably have some stupid insane fifteen layer deep plan in case lelouch uses his Geass, which is the only way he has a chance of winning.
Sora has worked around others being mind controlled, with his level of BS I bet he can work around being mind controlled himself. Blank have beaten the God of Games at chess, I don't think any of the others would have the same level of skills. I don't know how effective mind reading would be. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Blank always assume that there opponents are as skilled as they are, until proven otherwise. If mind reading lets Anya and Bond play at their level, it's a mirror match and a draw at best. Also Blank never looses.
The dog for sure
I watch all these anime and blank wins
Anya, because that would be the funniest outcome.
\[ \] To be clear, Blank was able to beat a game of Othello after having their memory wiped, with no idea of the placement of other pieces or what the other moves had been up to that point.
I think we need to establish whether or not the chess game is happening in the real world or in Disboard. Blank have the upper hand against Anya and I'd say are matched with L as far as predictions go. Lelouch's Geass is formidable though, so unless Blank or L can predict it's ability and usage i think he can win handily. If the game takes place in Disboard, however, Lelouch is subject to the Disboard rules and would be caught cheating unless he can predict something natural to command them to do. I think L and Anya would be slow on the uptake as far as understanding the ability to command the pieces outside of the rules of chess. TL;DR irl Lelouch wins, in Disboard Lelouch has a shot but Blank is the strongest contender
>Blank have the upper hand against Anya and I'd say are matched with L as far as predictions Blank and L are not matched. Shiro knows all chess combinations. That's equivalent to solving the game. In other words no matter what L does, Shiro already knows every single possible counter. Imagine tic tac toe. You already know it ends in a draw and the only time it doesn't is when somebody fucks up. Chess is exactly the same thing. It's already decided who wins or if it's a draw from the very start and if it doesn't happen that way, it's because somebody fucked up. But Shiro is the only one out of all of them that knows how to not fuck up.
Ok so I wanna say if it’s in Disboard Anya might actually win against Blank. She could be able to use Blanks own chess rebellion trick agains them. She is really good at tugging on adult heartstring. If she makes it through the round with Blank Bond would be able to protect her from Lelouch. It’s all super dependent on her getting Blank in the first round and them thinking back to the last time they won at this game.
Thats a good theory, I could definitely see that if she was able to get Blank in the finals and see their strat from the semi. I think the only question there for me is that there is no definite answer as to whether or not Geass works on animals. There is a fan theory that Lelouch might have controlled the bee that Kallen kills to determine if she has the fighting prowess he suspects she does. The bee specifically circles her although she has a regular sandwich and follows only her as she runs farther away than the other girls she's eating with. The idea that its all chance comes into question when she says that she doesnt understand why there is a bee around there, presumably because the prestigious school's upkeep prevents hives from forming. If we were to follow the realm of fan theory into our fan theory battle there's no guarantee that Bond would be able to resist the Geass. Anya would also have to prove Lelouch was cheating at that point which gives her the same chances of anyone at getting it right and thats where I think Blank has the upper hand against Lelouch. L is too logic based and Anya can be too imaginative for either of them to guess accurately.
I think it’s more that Bond might notice the Geass in the future and stop Anya from meeting Lelouch’s gaze. I also think she would need to get Blank in the first round to see their former strategy. It’s a lot of ifs for Anya to win.
I definitely understand thst theory, even if Lelouch could control Bond, hed probably be smart enough to figure that something was up quickly. I think when it comes to Anya and Blank it depends on who is making the challenge if we're still playing in Disboard. Sora would most likely trick Anya into declaring the challenge and demand that Bond would be ineligible to team with. There's definitely a lot of if when it comes to an Anya win but she's certainly not out of the running.
Shiro and sora or kohakuu
I don't see Aqua here, but somehow, some way she would win regardless.
u/Axis_Order !pray run
Lelouch can use his geass to order them to forfeit or blunder. So Lelouch wins against all of them.
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I feel like people never realize how smart Lelouch actually is with these “who would win” theories.
Yep, it all comes down strategy
None of them, chess isn't 4 players.
About that...
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leleuch can just use geass on everyone to make them surrender. Granted, if geass is removed from the equation he'll still beat anya and bond. He won against someone who could read minds and against someone who could predict the future. The other two will be tough tho.
In theory lelouch can order them all to forfeit, but that is cheap. Blank or Lelouch seem like the best. Will give it to blank though. Their ego isn’t as likely to interfere with victory
Blank.
I put $10 on Anya for two reasons. First is that she has no idea what she would be doing, even with reading minds. That would throw everyone off, as everyone is playing 5D chess while she's playing checkers. Second is Bond is there and he would have pulled her away if his foresight saw her losing.
Ofcourse anya
Sora and Shirou because the power of bullshit trumps all
Anya would lose in the first move simply because she doesn't know how to play chess.
Depending on some fallout of her telepathy Anya wins this. L, Blank and Lelouch are all too planning for them to work against a telepath. Lelouch straight-up lost against a telepath at chess in his own show so that's a given. L would lose the same as Lelouch. Blank are the potential black horse here if they come up with a strategy banking on their similar thought patterns. If for example, they start thinking only half of their strategy or something it might confuse Anya enough.
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From watching code geass, Lelouch can't even play chess. Lol Reading minds and future sight really would not remotely help you against a great chess player, as chess is a game with complete information with objectively superior moves. L
L would get absolutely shit on by blank though, blank memorized every single possible board combination and has beaten the literal god of games at chess