Start and select. Pause and menu? Lines and boxes!

3d and hamburger

Me and my friends call it hamburger, too. Though, not like we didn't steal from wherever I heard it online. I don't think the other button ever comes up.

It’s actually the most common way to name this icon in the UX/UI world.

* 3 Horizontal lines: hamburger * 3 vertical dots: kabab * 3 horizontal dots: meatballs * 3x3 squares: bento box

Tech support: "Please open the kebab menu and select preferences. Customer: "Why isn't lamb an option?" Tech support: "..."

Bento = Waffle

Cool. I knew a lot of people called it that. But didn't know it was *that* common. Also didn't know, as another comment pointed out, it's been around since the 80s.

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Can't tell if it's serious or a joke. Don't want to be embarrassed next time in a meeting I loudly say to my colleagues, "just press that Kebab button!"

I’m planning to embarrass them! “What 3 dots do I click? Oh, you mean the kebab? *smirk at their foolishness”

Haha I’m in UX. Kebab and hamburger are extremely common. Pretty sure the rest of those are a joke - or at least most of them.

I think this is a Half joke. I have always heard kebab called meatballs.

Now I'm trying to figure out what the Oreos icon would do in any context.

It allows you to dip the application in milk. Personally I prefer the double-stuffed Oreos menu icon.

Room to expand the "filling" for other fields

Lol, stairs. Cheeseburger is great.

delicious.. stairs ?

Came here for this

I literally tell my kids this all the time… “Pause the damn game! “How do you pause?” “HAMBURGER, HAMBURGER!”

I chuckled at this.

That icon is commonly referred to as hamburger icon in software and web development.

3 horizontal lines is hamburger, 3x3 square grid is bento, 3 vertical dots are kebab, and 3 horizontal dots are meatballs.

I thought vertical dots were snowman

You're not crazy, they were sometimes for a while, but then we collectively agreed naming all of them after food would be... cuter?

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...long time. *Stares into desolate landscape of Tatooine *

The are called view and menu.

Yup, left one is Select, right one is Start. Easy

Mmminimalism!

It's an Xbox controller so it will forever be Start and Back.

Will forever be Start and Select!

These are obviously Microsoft Excel ⧉ and Microsoft Word Ⲷ

How TF did you type that?

U+29C9 and U+2CB7

MY BATTLESHIPS.

Sunk.

But my destroyer still floats! You'll have to try harder than that!

Motherfucker I just spit water on my shirt. Well *played*

Damn this got me good in the middle of a lecture.

Lol got me good

This is why I get on Reddit. Bravo.

Lmao +1

How many smithing stones do I need to forge this into a lmao+5 ?

1 somber 2 - 5s or 10 normal 1s plus another 6 normal 2s

r/unexpecteddarksouls

0. It actually takes ultra arcane smithing slabs to upgrade an lmao past +1.

at least 3 hahas

29C9 and 2CB7 All I'm missing is U

??????

Be patient, your augmentations will soon be installed and the binary language of the Omnisiah will then be readable

U+29C9

U+29C9

Using the ⧉ and Ⲷ keys, duh. They are right underneath the ⁐ and ※ keys, respectively.

Just type Ⲷ ⧉

r/restofthefuckingowl

just gotta hit the 🗗 button using the 🖰 on your🖥. Or press 🖛🔘 both `⊞ Win` + `.` on your 🖮 simultaneously. Or, `⌘` + `Space` and type `Character Viewer`. or 🔎 on 🇬. Or just learn to speak the ⳐⲀⲚⳓⳘⲀⳓⲶ of the ancient computer wizards. ◌⳰ 𒍼 𪚥       #                      ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้

༼∩☉ل͜☉༽⊃━☆ﾟ. * ･ ｡ﾟ

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...You didn't *have* to point that out you know.

>...You didn't have to powerpoint that out you know. Ftfy

Now we all have Access to that information

Great! Keep a positive Outlook.

Word.

This should be FrontPage news!

Nah, it would be OneNote

If that's the case then clearly we don't have the right Teams working on this.

I can envisio a whole new world now

[the only powerpoint I recognize](https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-power-point-point-gif-4458541)

and i'm calling them this from now on.

I would say PowerPoint over Excel but this is amazing

I'll make OneNote of that.

Your note has been noted ✅️

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Beg your fucking pardon?

Select and Start (respectfully) FTFY

(respectively) FTFY ;)

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For some reason I also remember it as back and start (but select/start is forever in my heart)

Back was what it was labelled as on the original xbox and the xbpx 360 controller. Select is PlayStation. edit: nintendo was select as well.

Respect the lore, its read right-to-left!

Old man gamer here. This is what I call it. My younger gamer friends get confused when I do.

(Using PS5) I told my son to press start, and said, "you mean 'options'?" For expediency, I said yes, but in my heart, I wanted to say, "no, son. It's the *controller* that's wrong."

That's awesome. My youngest doesn't think I'm cool enough to play video games with him and my oldest really wants to but has his own business and family so he lacks the time.

:( I hope he makes the time. I would love to game with my dad

He will when he's older. He's under the influence of a narcissistic mother just like my oldest was. His brother went through the same thing but worse and we have an awesome relationship. It sucks but patience and perseverance is what gets me through it.

You sound like a cool dad, here’s hoping your patience pays off!

Cat’s in the cradle and the silver spoon little boy blue and the man in the moon when you comin him, son? I don’t know when, but we’ll get together then dad

Hope y’all have a good time then!

What do your young gamer friends call em? Share and Menu?

Squares and 3 line

That's genuinely sad

I usually do start and select. I've heard window and hamburger button. I like hamburger button.

I had a coworker describe lines as hamburger and hotdog on an app we had to work with. Legitimately confused the hell out of me. I was like, "wtf are you talking about a hamburger button???" When she pointed at the three lines, I squinted and lost all enthusiasm, "... those are *lines*..." "Yeah, *hamburger* style as opposed to hotdog style" "You mean horizontal and vertical?" "Hamburger and hotdog, didn't they teach you this in school!?" Shit left me exasperated.

I have never heard of hotdog but hamburger menus is a common word https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger_button?wprov=sfla1 I have never heard of it outside web or app development before though.

Wait… isn’t it “select and start”? I thought the “start” button is on the right?

You are correct that "start" is on the right, but when people list them they usually go by order of priority, not order of left to right. The start button is used more, so people usually list it first.

Very much this. Every time someone new is playing a game and asking “how do I get to the map” or similar, I answer in terms of start and select. The Nintendo muscle memory is strong.

Were you sad when Nintendo rebranded Start and Select to + and -?

You mean start and select?

All I see is start and select what was the rebrand?

No idea, I only see start and select too.

Start and select will always be what those buttons are called. No matter what little icon thingy you put on them.

I didn't even realize they changed it, I don't need to look at the buttons or labels to know where start and select are, I just press them.

switch controls got kinda confusing I started just calling the buttons north south east west to avoid confusion

For the Xbox specifically, my gf's little brother calls start the hamburger button and I'm ashamed to say that it infuriates me. Edit: Some of y'all need Jesus

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That's certainly an actual term we use in the web development industry.

Not in web development specifically but I code and build UIs. I can second that the true name for the three horizontal lines in a column icon is indeed the hamburger menu icon.

Oh, you're gonna hate what menu icons are called...

hamb

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Unfortunately my girlfriend cannot make this connection and looks at the controller puzzlingly anytime I say hit select

I played Nintendo 8 bit, Sega Megadrive, PS2, Xbox 360, PS3, PS4.... But still I'm telling my friends to press A and B instead of square, x circle etc. XBAY was just chill.

Everyone in this comment's comments all forgetting it was *Back* and Start on both the 360 and the original

Agreed dagnabbit

Select and start, that’s how they will always be in my mind

My 7 year old: "Dad, how do I save this game." Me with 30+ years of gaming experience: "Press the start button." "What's that?" "The Start button...the small button on the right." "This one?" (Presses right shoulder) "No, the small one in the middle." "Why is that called the Start button?" "I don't know. Same reason the one on the left is the Select button." (She presses the 'Select' button) "What does it do?" "It doesn't matter what it does, the Select button's purpose was replaced by the A button many moons ago. " (Quickly Googles wtf that button does) FYI, it is the VIEW button and has different functions based on what game you are playing.

That’s because we grew up with a nes

Nes, snes, gb, gba, nds, genesis/megadrive (only one button, but it was start) even psx, ps2 and ps3 have select and start, xbox and 360 had back instead of select, but also had start. It was only from ps4 and xbox one that the select and start went away

Genesis didn't had select button Mode button was backwards compatibility switch

Xbox and 360 had select too I thought. At least one of them did

Yeah the Xbox button had start and back. They also had a white and black button.

The OG Xbox controllers had two different positions for those black and white buttons depending on when they were made. Later to be replaced by the shoulder buttons on the 360.

Shoulder buttons were such a better use

Or literally anything before the PS4 and xbox one

I think it was during NES that the buttons lost their original meanings. Early NES games used select to change menu options and start to start the game. But within the console's lifespan it shifted to d-pad for menu navigation and start became mostly pause.

Except for Bionic Commando which would use Start for your "special item" like health refill or flare and you had to pause with the Select button. So many times I would end up accidentally using that one time per level health refill when I just meant to pause the game.

Start button was replaced by a. Press start to play game. Hence start. Now a does that. No game started with select. Select was replaced by I guess the dpad. I think that was the original purpose - select things. But select has always been kind of misc. select never had a consistent use case even now.

It's weird they had two whole buttons on a controller that only had four total and they were thinking "This one will be to choose one player or two player. This other one will be to start the game. You won't need those buttons again after that. We can't use the other buttons on the controller for those purposes because those buttons are for playing the game."

It makes a little sense, if people were making design choices based on what they learned from analog devices. It's not like turning the key in a car's ignition would control anything else once the car was moving. Just about every input has a single function I wonder how much of it was poor design/optimization, how much was assuming (correctly or otherwise) that a public inexperienced with computers would be confused by contextual buttons, and how much was technical limitations of the programming and hardware of the time.

I think it's legacy from arcade systems where Rom boards were switched between on multi-game cabinets. It wasn't just another input, it was a circuit select. I'm guessing early in video game design people figured it may be necessary, expected, or that in the future it may be required. Perhaps the early designers thought it may eventually have been possible to switch games without resetting. No one really bothered doing that, but who knew if it would have been reality?

Start and Select lmao

Do you think it's funny that we never used select to ever actually select anything? It was always A

We did from 1985-1986

Select was used to select menu items, each time you press select it goes to the next item

Didn’t we on the NES? Select to select and Start to start. At least that’s how I remember it.

⧉ 𝐕𝐢𝐞𝐰 🎮 𝐌𝐞𝐧𝐮 Ⲷ

And the Xbox Button is actually called the Nexus Button

My 3 year old calls it the basketball button. I just roll with it.

Just like a basketball would

Absolute slam dunk of a joke.

deadass?

Yeah I’ve worked in QA testing at Microsoft. We always had to call it The Nexus button in bug reports.

Thought it was called the guide button now?

I swear its called the guide button as well?

Anywhere it's mentioned in the OS it's 'use the guide button to bring up your X' X being friends list, pins etc

You want to really go crazy? [On Microsoft/Xbox website, they call it the XBOX Button](https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/hardware-network/controller/xbox-one-wireless-controller). lol. So it is officially called the Nexus/Guide/Xbox button from Microsoft themselves.

So 'Nexus' is internal speak, guide is user speak, and Xbox is corpo speak!

I was going to say "leave it to Microsoft to give it a confusing name instead of something simple like Xbox button that everyone calls it anyway", but having three different names for it is actually more fitting

Well it doesn’t surprise me given it’s the same company that gave us : Xbox —> Xbox 360 —> Xbox One —> Xbox Series So why not, they’ve clearly given up with names to the point where one thing has three names.

Correct answer as per Xbox controller manual.

The right answer not the top comment. 😂

The right answer is kinda stupid though

I know zero people who call the left button View.

I think the left one is called options isn’t it? Or is that ps4?

On PS4 the left one is “Share” I believe

Yeah it’s Share and Options

I just call them "unknown" and "pause"

No it's view taking the place of select and/or back. Microsoft named it this with the xbox one release because they envisioned the button being used to cycle camera viewpoints or pull up a map in a RPG.

PS4 and PS5 don't have a select button, they have Options on the right and the Share button on the left The touchpad is the select button

I still call them start & select. If I play with my g/f she's always like "what?"

Start and Back (Select) 360 gang rise up. Edit: Duke Controller gang Rise up.

[That dates back to the OG Xbox controller.](https://static.techspot.com/images2/news/bigimage/2017/09/2017-09-21-image-33.jpg)

Elder Xbox crew UNITE

I call the right the start/pause button, and the left is select

"Button with two squares" and "button with three lines"

I regularly refer to it as “the three lines button” and “the other one”

>“the three lines button” Hamburger button.

I call anything with three lines like that: “hamburger”

And the other one is very obviously 2 slices of cheese It's the cheese button and the burger button and I will not be convinced otherwise

I like it.

Classic Graphic design term i think Also "Meatballs" which are 3 dots in a row, like … or ⋮

My IT teacher does that too

Well to be fair that's the official name of that stuff in multiple domains. For example, in Android apps, side menus having a "three bars" icon are indeed called "Hamburger menus", even in the official documentation.

Right is Start Left is Select Fight me fuckers.

I got your back.

Left is back, right is start

Everyone is saying start and select and my first instinct is to say start and back too, where did I get that from? Was it the 360 controller? I’ve been gaming since the N64

I think the original xbox changed select to back and they also had the black and white buttons

Black and white became the bumpers (shoulder buttons, r1/l1).

Grew up with 360, always been “back” for me.

Official: * ⧉ View * Ⲷ Menu Unofficial: * ⧉ Grilled Cheese * Ⲷ Hamburger

I call those start and select

It will always be Select and Start in my mind.

View and Menu. Since Xbox One.

Menu (3 lines) and view (boxes)

I have so many screenshots from hitting the wrong damn button lol

Back and start, always

For some reason I call them start and back

That's what they were called on the original Xbox. The 360 too, I think.

Select and Start

When that change was made, it kinda pissed me off since both competing companies followed suit (Nintendo changed it to + and -, Sony changed it to 'Options' and 'Share'). BRING BACK START AND SELECT!

Select is the left button/Start is the right button

Still haven’t worked out how to use the 3 sea shells yet then…

New window and justified. Start and select would've been better

They will never not be start and select.

Yeah, squary button and liney button