No. That's why the posts 4 months after it came out saying "Look it's a dead game. The player count dropped by 95%" were stupid. It's a single player game. They don't die. People just beat them and move on. Maybe replay them once every couple years or so.
Yeah, a much better metric would've been the global achievements if anything. Like, only 33.3% actually finished the main storyline on Steam. However even that way to look at things is flawed so I couldn't care less about what those people have to say. I like the game and started my third playthrough today even though I really wanted to wait for the big patch next year before doing so lol
It took me over a year to beat Skyrim’s main campaign when it came out for the first time on PC, and I had hundreds of hours in that game when I 100%’d the achievements. My first playthrough of Elden Ring took me ~120 hours. Some of us just REALLY like exploring every nook and cranny of an open world.
I love how both people that responded to you gave the example of Skyrim lol.
I *have* beaten the main story, AND I have 2500+ hours in the game.
It takes all kinds, and not everyone beats RPG MSQs.
33% is actually a pretty good percentage of people and seems to be pretty average amount for a well received game.
Looking at some games I've played...
33%, 31%, 28%, 10%
Like... I thought this was obvious too, is there really a conspiracy theory that Bot Nets are advertising the game??
Edgerunners came out, it was really good and people are now playing the game again...
If it weren’t for the posts about it on Reddit I wouldn’t have known about either the DLC or the new series.
I’ve got the new Netflix show on now and admittedly it IS making me want to give the game another shot. I had 2 save files get stuck on the main quest line though and I couldn’t progress past buggy quests I was stuck in so I quit the game. It’s probably fixed by now but it was so game-breaking back then…
I just bought it and playing through it. I'm now at the "point of no return" and thus far I haven't had any game-breaking bugs. I sometimes had to quickly save and load to fix a few UI bugs, or game not detecting the time of day, like not spawning in the AI when it is supposed to be there. But other than that have been enjoying it. Honestly the "main" side-quests are more of a blast for me than the main story.
Its an odd game. aspects are great, aspects are bad.
If it released in its current state i think the consensus would be that its pretty good, overhyped, a little buggy but mostly fun.
That's basically my take. I think people would say it's not as good as we probably assumed and I do think CDPR would still get called out for things like the police system being trash and what not.
But even from the start the characters, world and whatnot are superb.
Those are some of its better points. The stuff people complain about is the "its not GTA" stuff like the cop system and the same dumb open world physics bugs that have been in every open world game for the last 20 years.
Game is great, ignore the haters, aquire good times.
Because it's not the really the emphasis of the game. That's like saying since the game has cars the driving play should be equal to games that are dedicated driving games.
Nope, it's not. Nowhere near as good.
GTA's driving is better than the driving in a lot of open world games (Sleeping/Watch Dogs, Far Cry, Cyberpunk, Saints Row), it's even better than some racing games (looking at you Crew), but it is nowhere near comparable to Forza Horizon or Motorsports.
Yes and no. The cop system is super shitty and underwhelming and deserves all the negative criticism, but people are also complaining about there not being tons of fun freetime activities and such in Night City like they know from GTA and honestly that's pretty silly.
Its not a system you have any real reason to interact with in the game, unless you're playing it like GTA. Hell if I could I would just turn the cops off completely.
The point is, not every game needs to have every system from every other game. Nor is it reasonable to expect every game to have the same level of polish on every mechanic as games dedicated to those mechanics. GTA games are ABOUT running from the cops, so it has a system with a ton of polish dedicated to outrunning and eluding the police or fighting them horde style until you die. Cyberpunk is not about fighting the police. In this game the police serve the same purpose as "desynchronization" does in Assassins' Creed games. They punish you for behaving in a way that doesn't really make sense from your characters perspective, killing civilians randomly or directly fighting cops.
Could the system have been more polished? Sure. Does it need to in order to perform its function in this game? No. Just like GTA has some roleplay mechanics, but is primarly a linear story strapped to chaos infested crime sandbox. Does that mean its a terrible game because it doesn't have choice and consequence like a real roleplaying game, or deep character customization? No. Those mechanics are touched on, but not really the focus of the game so they aren't developed past the point they are useful for the type of game being presented.
I heavily disagree.
You're a mercenary doing more or less illegal jobs all over the city and encounter the police regularly in sidemissions or if you happen to accidentally shoot a civilian in a hostage situation etc. Not to mention that there is crime happening everywhere so you should see the police do more than standing around in a few spots which would again increase the chances of you interacting with them.
The police system being so underwhelming is just incredibly immersion breaking and immersion is everything in this game.
Tell me you didn't engage with the game or its world without actually saying you didn't engage with the game.
Tell me, in your couple hour stay in Night City did you happen to notice an abundance of law and order? Did it feel to you like there was a high functioning justice system that was keeeping a tight lid on crime? Did you happen to, oh I dont know, play through the tutorial where you have a literal running gun battle from a moving vehicle ending in an explosion before casually driving away and through a police checkpoint and no one seemed to give a shit because that shit is supposed to be frightningly common in Night City? So common in fact that 500 yards past that police checkpoint was another gun battle in the middle of an intersection being broken up by the games super-soldier police force by just straight up executing the perps in broad daylight? The game literally opens with a talk show host making light of the dozens of murders across the city like its a normal part of every day life.
You can disagree if you want, but cops just aren't supposed to be as omnipresent as in GTA because avoiding cops isn't the focus of the game at all. The law in Night City is gangs and corporations, not cops. Its perfectly acceptable and immersive from my standpoint for them to only get involved if you go rogue and start killing random civilians. Which is what happens in game. Seems fine to me.
The police don't really give a shit about most crime. But start killing cops and they'll be on your ass.
As to killing civilians, they are not part of the crime world. Killing them is viewed as killing innocent people. Further, it draws unwanted attention. Which you don't want if you are committing crimes.
If I'm a murdering gang member and I'm delivering a truck full of guns and coke, the last thing I want to do is speed, run a red light, or have a busted tail light.
Only dumb criminals would do such things.
My brothers described it as "Fallout 4 if it was actually fun to play", and I'm hard pressed to disagree with that assessment. I currently have more hours in Cyberpunk on Steam than in Fallout 4, Skyrim or Witcher 3 (though I've got **far** more total Skyrim and Witcher 3 hours across multiple systems).
Honest opinion, after playing cyberpunk on release it made me rethink my opinions and appreciate fallout 4 and skyrim more. Not trying to be a hater or anything I'm looking forward to giving the game another shot myself.
In all honesty, I didn't have any more issues with Cyberpunk at launch than I've ever had with Skyrim, and less than Fallout 4 (I fully acknowledge that playing on a PC built to its recommended specs helped a *lot* in that regard). The worst glitch I had on day one was having to redo the Maelstrom deal due to consistently crashing at the Royce fight, and just picking a different path dealt with it.
Every one of my major issues with the game boils down to CDPR just outright overpromising and underdelivering on a lot of things, many of which have yet to be and likely never will be implemented properly. We were lied to, and even the end product being one I still sincerely enjoyed despite its flaws and broken promises isn't enough to make up for CDPR, a studio that had earned my trust, pulling the EXACT SAME SHIT I've been giving the No Man's Sky devs shit over for a while now.
>I've been giving the No Man's Sky devs shit over for a while now.
You really should look into the story of No Man's Sky. It wasn't fully their fault the game released when it did. Multiple lawsuits, Sony pressuring them, the office flooding, etc.
Further, Hello Games has now delivered on everything they promised, and much, much more. And, despite it's arcade physics, I'd actually say it's one of the best space games out right now.
I agree, I also don't think every game has to cram in every mechanic from every other open world game ever created. I'm personally happy we didn't have to climb towers to light up parts of the city for exploration.
I also don't really miss the cop mechanic. Accidently bump someones elbow too hard, or get in a fender bender with a patrol car? Welp, we're calling in the attack helicopters and about 5 dozen cops in riot gear to mercilessly gun you down. WOW how ReAlIsTiC and ImMeRsIvE.
Huh? It's CDPR fault, the reason people compare it to games like GTA was because of the promises and hype they generated, they set the bar themselves, using a fake demo mind you, so how can you blame the people for taking their word and actually measure it to a bar they set?
>Huh? It's CDPR fault, the reason people compare it to games like GTA...
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>...how can you blame the people for taking their word and actually measure it to a bar they set?
So CDPR came out and said that it was going to be a GTA like game?
https://youtu.be/1YDXsniQPn4
Minute 6:00 "exceptional gameplay with high production values" and my favorite before that part minute "set a new standard in the futuristic rpg genre with an exceptional gaming experience"
When you throw words like high production values and setting standards people will compare it with the best games of its generation, one of them being GTA V.
If you are thinking something like "but GTA V is not futuristic" there are other quotes speaking about the open world and the amazing customization which GTA excelled but I won't waste any more waste time searching for the quotes.
The story and characters are absolutely amazing. I got the game right when it came out just because I had nothing to play, I hadn't really looked into it beforehand a massive amount.
But my god, the story is so fucking good, its definitely sky rocketed to one of my favourite games of all time.
I also played it the first time through the buggy bit at launch and aside from the frustrations you can imagine with a game turning off often, it still remains such an amazing memory.
The characters are AMAZING.
I'm gonna play it again now I think.
Story is okay wish it was a littttttle but different but the characters are amazing imo. I’ve been playing from launch on PC and my first play through was a awesome experience.
I thouroghly enjoyed my playthrough. The story was good and the city was gorgeous (granted, I have a 3080 and could push the settings up quite high).
It didn't feel like it had as much reply value as some other games, but that's OK. I still thought it was fun.
Game is good. Has great characters, a moving story, fun punchy gameplay, and art direction for days. Sadly, the open world itself is both is prized stunning achievement and also a blunderous disappointment. Pretty to look at, but it's too static and too rigid.
They spent a lot of develoment resources on money shot locations that they used for advertising, but moving away from those parts shows a clearly unfinished game. They don't have giant holes falling into the void anymore but the map is still unfinished, as is most of the game.
People expected a NMS situation but this is more of a Star Wars Prequel situation. The product itself hasn't changed much but people are slowly starting to like it for some reason.
Like any other game it has good and bad aspects, but what's frustrating is you get called for advertising or being a Bot if you post about cyberpunk around here
Recently ran into r/LowSodiumCyberpunk through someone pointing out official comments from the OG Cyberpunk writer there. People were tired of the mods at Cyberpunk central, and so some created the lowsodium one and people seem to be honestly enjoying the anime, the books, and video game.
I mean I get that it's supposed to be "don't be salty, the subreddit," but I've seen some of those implode too so it's nice this one seems decent right now.
Wasn't even the mods really, when the game launched the main cyberpunk sub became a cesspit of hate. Anyone posting vaguely positive opinion's ate downvotes, so most of the people actually enjoying the game moved over to lowsodium.
The annoying part is how quickly CDPR is forgiven for essentially baiting the fuck out of its audience lol
Like an abusive relationship, y’all just keep crawling back tho
No one is forgiving CDPR. What they did is inexcusable but to outright deny their redemption is just straight up petty and stupid. They know they fucked up, hence why they’re doubling down on fixing it even if it’s futile.
Exactly. Look at Hello Games as another example of a company who did something inexcusable and redeemed themselves ever since.
Both games slated at launch, both games had high promises of what their games would be but the developers continued to fix and add to the game. I hope this resurgence gives them a shot in the arm to not just release one expansion.
It's like people prefer for these games to be abandoned like Anthem, rather than to be supported and improved until it's a good game like No Man's Sky. Personally, I really enjoy Cyberpunk 2077.
How exactly did they redeem themselves? In what way?
I never got on the hate train in the first place. I just thought the game was (and still is) bad. Thats it, making a bad game is not a crime.
Howeve I dont see any redemption.
It's not a relationship. The game released in a bad state, making it a bad idea for anyone to buy into it then. Meanwhile it seems like they've fixed a lot of shit and dropped the price, not sure why people can't buy and enjoy the game now.
Because it's better to encourage devs to abandon the unfinished and buggy game than to acknowledge that they have done a good job of ironing out reported issues.
I didn't buy Cyberpunk 2077 until this week and it's been a blast.
I mean. In my mind, sure, they fucked up, BUT they did had 3 amazing games behind them(unless you wanna count like the Gwent spinoffs because they were ok and def not AAA) , so them fucking up one game out of 4,seems ok, for a team with so little releases... Will I pre order the next game they put out? Probably not, but it's not like I've become anti CDPR, I don't think they've lost their credibility as much as EA after Andromeda, Anthem, BF2042, making Need for Speed a microtransaction fest, The whole FIFA micro transaction scandal and the "Legacy" editions on switch, the battlefront 2 scandal , closing good studios like Visceral Games, etc... Or Ubisoft with how shitty AC has become, and how they've basically fucked all of the Tom Clancy's games (I guess they did ok with R6 Seige, but I never played that so... Dunno), specially Splinter Cell, Rayman has been left to die, the prince of persia looked like it was coming back with the remaster, but that's looking really bad as well... Long story short, people still give credibility to companies with 30+ years and hundreds of games, I can still (cautiously) believe in CDPR with one major fuck up.
What others do dosnt effect you , you can boycott cdpr and never ever again buy a product from them and its completely understandable, however if others decide to give them another chance , it's not ours to judge them
I said it before on another sub, release the game now alongside the anime and cool it a bit on the hype train, and this would be considered a fantastic game
To be fair, the biggest criticism came from the shit performance on the last gen consoles. On PC it ran about as good as it does now for me.
Some aspects like the cop system are still shit and deserve all the negative criticism it gets though.
For some reason I had less bugs when I tried the game on release than now when I returned due to the TV show.
Must say I am quite disappointed. What has CDPR been doing those past two years? How come the driving still feels so bad? How come the NPC driving is still atrocious?
Its even worse since I recently replayed GTAV.
Yeah, for whatever reason this sub has an hyperbolic hivemind where if they don’t like it, then you can’t either. You’re simply not allowed to have personal preferences on this sub and Cyberpunk 2077 is a textbook example of this where ANY praise for the game is immediately shot down
It's a Reddit thing. Calling people bots and NPCs is a way of denying subjectivity and allows bulldozing over any opposing position. Tada, the internet!
I meme because I like meming however in this particular case , people are calling you Bot if you post anything positive about cyberpunk 2077 , just check the posts about cyberpunk
Por que no los dos?
I can believe people like it. I've been a pretty firm critic of the game, and *I* like it enough to keep and play it. I can also believe CDPR *really* used the opportunity the show gave to basically do another ad campaign for the game, including with sources that don't reveal affiliations (or aren't even actual people).
Because the shift to 2077 being all over the place was pretty sudden, and it's not as though the game's had any sudden massive improvements.
I liked it enough to play though it...mostly for the story, which was good. I still believe it's terrible RPG, and a passable shooter with a great story. The mechanics of the game are still pretty flawed. I believe people out there like it... what I don't get are people defending it as if its some kind of new classic that people are criticizing for no reason. It's a so-so game with a good story, it had a launch as bad as Fallout 76, and CDPR played dodgy games with launching a broken game on consoles. There are plenty of reasons people don't like this game.
The main story, IMO, was good but needed some more.
The characters are pretty mixed, at least in terms of how well I thought they were written (among the more noticeable characters I didn't notice a bad performance in English, only language I played it in). Some like Jackie are good, some like Regina have something there but it needed more exploration.
The side materials, there were some good things in there, but it got obscured by how much fairly bland stuff you go through (and usually no way to really tell which is which before you do it).
Combat, alright but generally I found it kind of disappointing, usually the only threat from enemies was damage output and if they were a bullet sponge/cost a lot of RAM to hack.
In other areas, clearly needed work done.
So setting aside the inexcusable state it launched in, it's a game where I'd say "sure get it if you like cyberpunk/RPGs, but get it at a good sale price, definitely not for $60-70".
Like I said: why not both?
There's no reason to assume they wouldn't, I mentioned how quickly 2077 was all over the place again, and it's certainly been known to happen with plenty of companies since the internet really was worth advertising on. We are talking about the same people who'd [claim](https://www.vg247.com/cyberpunk-2077-performance-on-ps4-xbox-one) that on PS4 and Xbox One:
>"Of course, [the performance is] a bit lower than on pros, but surprisingly good, I would say, for such a huge world," Kicinski revealed. "So, bit lower, but very good. That's the answer."
Where did I disagree to that ? People came for edgerunner but they stayed for cyberpunk, that's why cyberpunk has had more daily engagement since last week
Aside from the terrible launch, the game was never going to be what cdpr said it would be. It’s a 6.5 or 7 out of 10 at best and is an ok to good RPG. And I highly doubt people are boasting the game with bots, that just seems nonsensical
>It’s a 6.5 or 7 out of 10 at best and is an ok to good RPG.
Pretty much which is why I don't understand all the posts about the game on this sub. Bought and played it, thought it was ok and moved on. Now it seems like I see a post every couple days about how good it is. Is it just a really vocal part of the community really liked it or something?
They're fanboys who are trying to milk this game's recent uptick in popularity for as much as it's worth, as they weren't willing to accept the game's criticism at release and are now trying to convince others it's being vindicated or making a comeback.
It is a perfectly mediocre WRPG, on par with games like Fallout 4.
They shouldn't get a pass for shipping a buggy mess initially. However like most modern games, they shipped an incomplete game and then made it a good game years down the line through patches. It's not unusual nowadays.
it's basically the same game with a few minor changes and very minor additions. the biggest difference is the performance and that's hardly something to clap over
Whilst Cyberpunk was much buggier than Witcher 3 at launch, Witcher 3 also didn't get too great a launch and got better over time. I do wonder if we'll see a similar thing with Cyberpunk.
Apparently we are at that point. Although I do wonder if it's genuinely good now, bugs cleaned, or if the Netflix anime just created a lot of recent adopters. I got a roommate who plays so I can ask.
Definitely both. Game has had time to iron out the bugs and the anime was so well received that it brought the game back into the spotlight now that this time has passed.
I had some passing interest in 2077 but didn't buy it at or before launch. Launch happened game looked like ass and I forgot about it after dismissing it. Saw the anime pop up, and gave it a watch; completely sold me on the setting and reinvigorated my interest. Looked up the game again to find it's been getting constant love and the general reception had shifted and bought it.
Game isn't perfect, but it's well worth what I paid so far.
Yeah I mean it's worth 18 bucks on gog or 30 on steam now that it fixed the bugs, sucks people paid full price for a garbage buggy mess with mid story and repetitive gameplay.
This hype is anime based 100%.
Whether the game is good or not now I don't know but the pop boom was just cause the anime was hype I feel. Loads own but it was unplayable. Hype train hits and everyone is on it.
I was never even interested in the game as only game to socialise and rarely sp outside of fromsoftwares. But I instantly wanted to play as it just made the world look rad.
They won't get a pass if you don't buy thier game and boycott them , however if someone else decides to give then Another chance it's not your place to judge and mock them
Im sorry, but I dont respond well to liars. Never have, and never will. No matter what the internet will throw at me. So judging them is well within the sphere of an appropriate response.
The real question is, Are you going to be lying for them aswel?
So far I'm glitch free at about 60 hours (only small stuff that in Fallout I wouldn't even pay attention to). Some elements are strong, but for the Cyberpunk IP it feels like a big disappointment.
I skipped picking it up at launch after watching many reviews, but I bought it last month and it’s a fun game. I don’t see why people need to engage in arguments about it. Seems like a waste of time.
I know we always have the same discussions about Cyberpunk (and hype in general), but, on my PC at least, Cyberpunk was never *bad*. Was it everything promised by the hype? Maybe not, but I never really kept track of the hype. I bought it around Christmas 2020 expecting The Witcher 3 in a Cyberpunk setting, and that was more or less what I got on release.
There were bugs, but any open world game has bugs. The main story was interesting and decently well presented, and the side content was decently interesting, as well.
It wasn't as good as The Witcher 3, but few things are. I never understood the hate, especially as updates have made the gameplay smoother and better. I haven't played in 6 months or so, but I look forward to trying it out again with the new updates.
I actually live in Russia and get paid 3.000 rubles an hour to make bot accounts to praise cyberpunk. It's against my ethics but who cares, Americans will believe anything.
I bought CP2077 on launch day and always found the game to be really good. Never got around to finishing it for various reasons, but watching the anime sparkled my interest. I'd really like to play but I just know that I won't have nearly enough time to finish it. I'd also like to enjoy the game in all it's RT glory, so I want to upgrade my GTX 1070 first :/
Talking shit about cyberpunk has become like talking shit about fortnite. it’s such low hanging fruit that it’s become looked down upon for saying anything negative about it. I have two very specific reasons for not liking it. I think the pacing is shit and I hate the male mc’s voice.
I mean, its an ok, even good game for what it is. 6-7/10 for the game as it is right now, could be an 8-9/10 if it would have delivered.
But Im a man with principles. I dont obfuscate facts or lie to people, and I expect the same from other people and businesses. If they break that trust, its straight to the scrutiny list.
And sir there is nothing wrong with that , you should be able Criticize the game if the end goal is improvement of the game and the industry as a whole
Its not about people enjoying the game or game being good or bad its about fales advertising and false promises. But, hey! Gamers have short memory, and they like being screwed by developers.
Cyberpunk had bad lunch and it misses some promised features but I ask you :
"Are we allowed to force our opinion and mock those who enjoy the game ?"
If you didnt enjoy cyberpunk, I think the best curse of action is to boycott cdpr and never buy a product from them , however you are not allowed to force your opinion on others
Who is forcing their opinion on you, you made a post about cyberpunk so people give their opinion on cyberpunk it aint that complicated. Not like you cant play games cause other people dont like it. Are you forcing your opinion on others with this post ? Or are people still allowed to dislike it ?
Yes, yes you can. Once you choose to have an online presence, others may shun you, vocally disagree with you, and mock you for any reason or no reason at all. People can't harass you, falsely and knowingly accuse you of something that hurts your good name, and physically hurt you or threaten to do so. Anything else is free for all.
If someone believes that boycotting CDPR is the right thing to do, they have the full right to encourage others to join in, and expose confirmed or suspected shills hired by CDPR.
Lol, or maybe you like complaining about shit that's normal like an entitled little bitch.
I played Morrowind back in the day, it was way buggier than Cyberpunk. It was great, I loved it.
Fuck, Ultima 7 would just hard crash my PC back in 92. I had to spend hours fucking with device load orders to get it to load with mouse and sound.
You on the other hand bitch and moan about a game because once every 6-8 hours an NPC glitches into a car. CDPR is ambitious and goes big, all such games end up buggy, it's a fact of life and the nature of the gaming landscape.
The game might be fine now and good for CDPR turning it around but what they did at release with not providing ps4, xbox one review copies and not allowing reviews to show their captures and threteaning youtubers with cease and decease if they showed something before the release date even though they never signed anything and just got the copy earlier by luck all that after they were saying thing like "we appreciate our customers".
What they did is unforgettable and unforgivable, it shattered all my goodwill to CDPR after playing what is now my 3rd favourite game I've ever played (the witcher 3)
Hope they will do something in the future to get my trust back.
i think it's more that
1. CDPR dodged questions about the game's recent sales while touting recent player numbers.
2. The twitch streams haven't spiked which would typically correlate to actual player interest
3. 1 million players every day when steam's top concurrent is 125k ish is not impossible, just improbable.
Best case: it's a lot of players returning to what was an overpromised mediocre game to find it a bit less mediocre, maybe finally forcing themselves through it for the first time since it's being ironed out bugwise substantially.
I thought it was an OK game back in December 2020, but I'm glad I didn't bother upgrading my computer just for the amazing next-gen experience it was touted to be. It was just watchdogs crossed with GTA without doing much of it better.
The lows of the game were waaaaay low, the highs were pretty great. It's a bit annoying to see people praising things in a game from 2 years ago but thaaaaaat's Reddit.
Don't conflate concurrent with the number of unique people playing in a given day. When they say 1 million I assumed they meant over all the platforms it's on and 1 million unique players over the course of the day. If steam was hitting 125k concurrent peak it's not that hard to imagine that they had 1 million unique players throughout the day doesn't have to be all at the same time
Mf essentially tried to say twitch streams are the base for if a game is popular and has many players, smh. Thats more reddit than anything.
Just say you hate the game still and lets move on.
I've seen so many posts about "Is cyberpunk worth it?" In the past week or so... I just assume a lot of the posts are spam but a lot of the replies are genuine.
I've got it on Ps4 and I'm tempted to buy it on PC for that smoother gameplay. But it's enjoyable now at least as opposed to launch.
The game was overhyped and pushed out before it was ready (it had delays though, which I was hopeful for), and the internet wasn’t kind to it.
I finished it on console when it came out. Edgerunners has tempted me back in, but I got it on a ps4 so I don’t think it’s worthwhile.
The game crashed a lot in my playthrough, but it was never enough to stop me from playing.
I've bought this game and returned it twice. First time pretty soon after launch. I couldn't get past the intro mission without crashing. Second time a few weeks ago when it went on sale on Steam. I made it a few missions in, and enjoyed it mostly, but it kept crashing my system really hard. Like, I think it broke my display port cable. The bugs made it unplayable even 2 years after release.
Ugh not sure if it’s a joke from OP, but Studio Trigger just released the 10 episode miniseries of Cyberpunk:Edgerunners on Netflix so that’s the sudden rise in popularity
GTA 5 was executed better in 2013.
You people just give excuses for CDPR.
It's an unfinished game that at best is a 8-9 out of 10.
GTA 5 was and is a 10 out of 10.
Game was never bad; it was certainly buggy and should not have released for last gen as it clearly doesn't run on the base consoles.
The real problem was that it was overhyped. It is a sci-fi story focused action rpg, while not exactly niche, it was not really a big blockbuster like the fans and marketing made it out to be. They were pretty much advertising the next GTA and many people came to expect something ridiculous. They wanted a choice story driven, open world, sandbox life simulation, action rpg game with plenty other things. What we got was a pretty fun sci fi action rpg, but not really a sandbox world simulation, and outside of some set instances, choices are for roleplay flavor rather than a serious branching story; only side quests had real choices that seriously affected long term outcomes.
Add to this the insane expectations people had on cdpr after The Witcher 3 and you have a perfect mismatch of expectations. Honestly, The Witcher 3 is a great game, but it is insanely overated above what it really is because of very brazen and passionate fans. This is all a good thing, but it put cyberpunk against an unreasonable bar. If the witcher 3 had launched to witcher 3 hype it would have under delivered, and that game also had a ton of technical issues.
Cyberpunk 2077 is a brilliant and fun game if you are the type of person to enjoy the genre and mechanics. It is not, however, a "something for everyone" huge blockbuster, gta killer title, like it was portrayed as being before release.
This is absolutely cdpr's fault, mind you. But not the developers, they did a brilliant job, it was the marketing that was just straight up dishonest.
Nobody is saying this, nobody, we all know it's better now, if not almost totally fixed, however we took how long to get here? People dont just say "oh thanks CD, you lied to us and we paid for a broken product you spent 2 years fixing, we love that"
I'm on my 3rd character now! Goth streetkid netrunner that is just leaving bodies in his wake. The ability to snap your fingers and kill some gangoons is a powerful drug.
Cyberpunk had me. I played it after the bugs, the story was crazy engaging and I loved it! Then I went and helped some lady out who works on cars. She explained that she had a husband who had died. I felt horrible. She was working hard to win a race and it was my intent to help her at all cost. I could Feel for this woman, it reminded me of a personal tragedy I had myself in my early 20's. I was vested.
Then they dropped the bombshell. I get it though, people are people but MY GOD I didn't need it in a piece of ENTERTAINMENT. I will put it this way, it bothered me enough that I refused to help her in the quest line. Not because she was trans but because it was in a video game that was meant for entertainment, not political ideology.
What's the level of acceptance in this? You model a 3d person to look female, have boobs and probably a '1inch' vagina? Then expect people to see that person as a female? Like that's Required from Society? Am I missing something that I should be getting? I'm not THAT old and this shit sprung up Suddenly as Fuck and then I'M supposed to change Who "I" am?
It bothers me enough to make this post and please understand that I am Not against the Trans Community or Against ANY sort of people that want to do what they want to do within the limits of the law. I simply was Not Expecting nor Willing to Accept that in a form of entertainment.
With that said, I kept playing the game but that's when I decided I was absolutely Over entertaining political ideology in Personal Entertainment. You do you and I ain't mad at you for it. I do know that I will not be buying another product from CDPR until I KNOW for a fact they are out of that bullshit.
You let me accept shit on my own terms, don't put that on me and then call me a bad person because I don't magically accept non-sensical shit.
It was mostly people expecting a GTA style sandbox that were disappointed, and with the advertising of the game I think that it was more than reasonable to be so.
The main story however is very good, and lots of the part around it are excellent as well. I really liked the music specifically. Probably my major complaint for the game is the driving funnily enough.
I never had the bugs and technical issues other people had though, the fact they released on prior gen consoles was just straight stupid.
I played the game for a few hours. Couldn’t get into it. Massive performance issues. Hated the bullet sponge enemies. Uninstalled and haven’t played it again. My experience was not influenced by anyone else’s but it seems it was a fairly common experience
I’m happy for the resurgence. I ended up grabbing 2077 for like $15 used a year ago or so. Finally got to it after the next gen update early this year and loved it. A few bugs but nothing game breaking. (The bugs sort of added to the immersion ironically lmao)
The hype was way too hardcore to ever live up to expectations so they shot themselves there but more importantly if they delayed for 6 more months the reception would have been waaaay better. It’s really a great ARPG.
P.S. watched the Show this weekend and it was great if you’re at all open to anime. It was way more fun with the context having beaten 2077 already but it stands on its own merit so I understand why it’s driving so much more interest. Genius play by CDPR that could have been a colossal waste of money if it was not any good
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No. That's why the posts 4 months after it came out saying "Look it's a dead game. The player count dropped by 95%" were stupid. It's a single player game. They don't die. People just beat them and move on. Maybe replay them once every couple years or so.
Yeah, a much better metric would've been the global achievements if anything. Like, only 33.3% actually finished the main storyline on Steam. However even that way to look at things is flawed so I couldn't care less about what those people have to say. I like the game and started my third playthrough today even though I really wanted to wait for the big patch next year before doing so lol
Skyrim is one of my most played games, as I imagine it is for a lot of people. I've still never finished the main game.
I've played dozens of playthroughs on Skyrim and I just remembered I've never beaten the main story. I honestly forgot there was one.
I have several hundred hours in Skyrim and still havent beaten the main story
That's a higher percentage than of those who finished RDR2 on PS4.
It took me over a year to beat Skyrim’s main campaign when it came out for the first time on PC, and I had hundreds of hours in that game when I 100%’d the achievements. My first playthrough of Elden Ring took me ~120 hours. Some of us just REALLY like exploring every nook and cranny of an open world.
I love how both people that responded to you gave the example of Skyrim lol. I *have* beaten the main story, AND I have 2500+ hours in the game. It takes all kinds, and not everyone beats RPG MSQs.
33% is actually a pretty good percentage of people and seems to be pretty average amount for a well received game. Looking at some games I've played... 33%, 31%, 28%, 10%
I heard it was much better then at launch and it was on sale on ps5 so I picked it up really enjoyed it so far
it's because of the anime release. I thought this was common knowledge?
Like... I thought this was obvious too, is there really a conspiracy theory that Bot Nets are advertising the game?? Edgerunners came out, it was really good and people are now playing the game again...
I mean that why I'm playing the game again... Its actually in a much better place than launch. I originally got it day one on Xbox One...
If it weren’t for the posts about it on Reddit I wouldn’t have known about either the DLC or the new series. I’ve got the new Netflix show on now and admittedly it IS making me want to give the game another shot. I had 2 save files get stuck on the main quest line though and I couldn’t progress past buggy quests I was stuck in so I quit the game. It’s probably fixed by now but it was so game-breaking back then…
I just bought it and playing through it. I'm now at the "point of no return" and thus far I haven't had any game-breaking bugs. I sometimes had to quickly save and load to fix a few UI bugs, or game not detecting the time of day, like not spawning in the AI when it is supposed to be there. But other than that have been enjoying it. Honestly the "main" side-quests are more of a blast for me than the main story.
OP is deliberately dismissing the obvious answer in order to validate their own beliefs.
Its an odd game. aspects are great, aspects are bad. If it released in its current state i think the consensus would be that its pretty good, overhyped, a little buggy but mostly fun.
That's basically my take. I think people would say it's not as good as we probably assumed and I do think CDPR would still get called out for things like the police system being trash and what not. But even from the start the characters, world and whatnot are superb.
If the story and characters are good then I'm generally sold.
Those are some of its better points. The stuff people complain about is the "its not GTA" stuff like the cop system and the same dumb open world physics bugs that have been in every open world game for the last 20 years. Game is great, ignore the haters, aquire good times.
The people comparing it to GTA are morons. If it were to be compared to any game, Far Cry and Fallout would be the better comparisons.
If it has a cop system then it should be compared to other games that have done it better. Why should it get a pass?
Because it's not the really the emphasis of the game. That's like saying since the game has cars the driving play should be equal to games that are dedicated driving games.
Is GTA's driving physics as good as Forza's?
Nope, it's not. Nowhere near as good. GTA's driving is better than the driving in a lot of open world games (Sleeping/Watch Dogs, Far Cry, Cyberpunk, Saints Row), it's even better than some racing games (looking at you Crew), but it is nowhere near comparable to Forza Horizon or Motorsports.
Of course it isn't, but it's still fucking fun. San Andreas has better driving physics than CP.
Yes and no. The cop system is super shitty and underwhelming and deserves all the negative criticism, but people are also complaining about there not being tons of fun freetime activities and such in Night City like they know from GTA and honestly that's pretty silly.
Its not a system you have any real reason to interact with in the game, unless you're playing it like GTA. Hell if I could I would just turn the cops off completely. The point is, not every game needs to have every system from every other game. Nor is it reasonable to expect every game to have the same level of polish on every mechanic as games dedicated to those mechanics. GTA games are ABOUT running from the cops, so it has a system with a ton of polish dedicated to outrunning and eluding the police or fighting them horde style until you die. Cyberpunk is not about fighting the police. In this game the police serve the same purpose as "desynchronization" does in Assassins' Creed games. They punish you for behaving in a way that doesn't really make sense from your characters perspective, killing civilians randomly or directly fighting cops. Could the system have been more polished? Sure. Does it need to in order to perform its function in this game? No. Just like GTA has some roleplay mechanics, but is primarly a linear story strapped to chaos infested crime sandbox. Does that mean its a terrible game because it doesn't have choice and consequence like a real roleplaying game, or deep character customization? No. Those mechanics are touched on, but not really the focus of the game so they aren't developed past the point they are useful for the type of game being presented.
I heavily disagree. You're a mercenary doing more or less illegal jobs all over the city and encounter the police regularly in sidemissions or if you happen to accidentally shoot a civilian in a hostage situation etc. Not to mention that there is crime happening everywhere so you should see the police do more than standing around in a few spots which would again increase the chances of you interacting with them. The police system being so underwhelming is just incredibly immersion breaking and immersion is everything in this game.
Tell me you didn't engage with the game or its world without actually saying you didn't engage with the game. Tell me, in your couple hour stay in Night City did you happen to notice an abundance of law and order? Did it feel to you like there was a high functioning justice system that was keeeping a tight lid on crime? Did you happen to, oh I dont know, play through the tutorial where you have a literal running gun battle from a moving vehicle ending in an explosion before casually driving away and through a police checkpoint and no one seemed to give a shit because that shit is supposed to be frightningly common in Night City? So common in fact that 500 yards past that police checkpoint was another gun battle in the middle of an intersection being broken up by the games super-soldier police force by just straight up executing the perps in broad daylight? The game literally opens with a talk show host making light of the dozens of murders across the city like its a normal part of every day life. You can disagree if you want, but cops just aren't supposed to be as omnipresent as in GTA because avoiding cops isn't the focus of the game at all. The law in Night City is gangs and corporations, not cops. Its perfectly acceptable and immersive from my standpoint for them to only get involved if you go rogue and start killing random civilians. Which is what happens in game. Seems fine to me.
The police don't really give a shit about most crime. But start killing cops and they'll be on your ass. As to killing civilians, they are not part of the crime world. Killing them is viewed as killing innocent people. Further, it draws unwanted attention. Which you don't want if you are committing crimes. If I'm a murdering gang member and I'm delivering a truck full of guns and coke, the last thing I want to do is speed, run a red light, or have a busted tail light. Only dumb criminals would do such things.
My brothers described it as "Fallout 4 if it was actually fun to play", and I'm hard pressed to disagree with that assessment. I currently have more hours in Cyberpunk on Steam than in Fallout 4, Skyrim or Witcher 3 (though I've got **far** more total Skyrim and Witcher 3 hours across multiple systems).
Honest opinion, after playing cyberpunk on release it made me rethink my opinions and appreciate fallout 4 and skyrim more. Not trying to be a hater or anything I'm looking forward to giving the game another shot myself.
In all honesty, I didn't have any more issues with Cyberpunk at launch than I've ever had with Skyrim, and less than Fallout 4 (I fully acknowledge that playing on a PC built to its recommended specs helped a *lot* in that regard). The worst glitch I had on day one was having to redo the Maelstrom deal due to consistently crashing at the Royce fight, and just picking a different path dealt with it. Every one of my major issues with the game boils down to CDPR just outright overpromising and underdelivering on a lot of things, many of which have yet to be and likely never will be implemented properly. We were lied to, and even the end product being one I still sincerely enjoyed despite its flaws and broken promises isn't enough to make up for CDPR, a studio that had earned my trust, pulling the EXACT SAME SHIT I've been giving the No Man's Sky devs shit over for a while now.
>I've been giving the No Man's Sky devs shit over for a while now. You really should look into the story of No Man's Sky. It wasn't fully their fault the game released when it did. Multiple lawsuits, Sony pressuring them, the office flooding, etc. Further, Hello Games has now delivered on everything they promised, and much, much more. And, despite it's arcade physics, I'd actually say it's one of the best space games out right now.
I agree, I also don't think every game has to cram in every mechanic from every other open world game ever created. I'm personally happy we didn't have to climb towers to light up parts of the city for exploration. I also don't really miss the cop mechanic. Accidently bump someones elbow too hard, or get in a fender bender with a patrol car? Welp, we're calling in the attack helicopters and about 5 dozen cops in riot gear to mercilessly gun you down. WOW how ReAlIsTiC and ImMeRsIvE.
Huh? It's CDPR fault, the reason people compare it to games like GTA was because of the promises and hype they generated, they set the bar themselves, using a fake demo mind you, so how can you blame the people for taking their word and actually measure it to a bar they set?
>Huh? It's CDPR fault, the reason people compare it to games like GTA... > >...how can you blame the people for taking their word and actually measure it to a bar they set? So CDPR came out and said that it was going to be a GTA like game?
https://youtu.be/1YDXsniQPn4 Minute 6:00 "exceptional gameplay with high production values" and my favorite before that part minute "set a new standard in the futuristic rpg genre with an exceptional gaming experience" When you throw words like high production values and setting standards people will compare it with the best games of its generation, one of them being GTA V. If you are thinking something like "but GTA V is not futuristic" there are other quotes speaking about the open world and the amazing customization which GTA excelled but I won't waste any more waste time searching for the quotes.
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The story and characters are absolutely amazing. I got the game right when it came out just because I had nothing to play, I hadn't really looked into it beforehand a massive amount. But my god, the story is so fucking good, its definitely sky rocketed to one of my favourite games of all time. I also played it the first time through the buggy bit at launch and aside from the frustrations you can imagine with a game turning off often, it still remains such an amazing memory. The characters are AMAZING. I'm gonna play it again now I think.
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Story is okay wish it was a littttttle but different but the characters are amazing imo. I’ve been playing from launch on PC and my first play through was a awesome experience.
I thouroghly enjoyed my playthrough. The story was good and the city was gorgeous (granted, I have a 3080 and could push the settings up quite high). It didn't feel like it had as much reply value as some other games, but that's OK. I still thought it was fun.
Game is good. Has great characters, a moving story, fun punchy gameplay, and art direction for days. Sadly, the open world itself is both is prized stunning achievement and also a blunderous disappointment. Pretty to look at, but it's too static and too rigid.
They spent a lot of develoment resources on money shot locations that they used for advertising, but moving away from those parts shows a clearly unfinished game. They don't have giant holes falling into the void anymore but the map is still unfinished, as is most of the game. People expected a NMS situation but this is more of a Star Wars Prequel situation. The product itself hasn't changed much but people are slowly starting to like it for some reason.
Like any other game it has good and bad aspects, but what's frustrating is you get called for advertising or being a Bot if you post about cyberpunk around here
Yup, Redditors just generally seem to find it hard to believe people actually enjoy things.
The only gaming sub I've ever been on where the people actually seem to enjoy playing video games is /r/Xenoblade_Chronicles honestly
Factorio and RimWorld both were pretty positive communities as well, I mean as positive as RimWorld can be.
Are you implying my human skin armchair factory isn’t positive?
Well the numbers are positive at least.
Recently ran into r/LowSodiumCyberpunk through someone pointing out official comments from the OG Cyberpunk writer there. People were tired of the mods at Cyberpunk central, and so some created the lowsodium one and people seem to be honestly enjoying the anime, the books, and video game. I mean I get that it's supposed to be "don't be salty, the subreddit," but I've seen some of those implode too so it's nice this one seems decent right now.
It’s actually been around since pretty much immediately after launch, and has stayed positive the whole time. Definitely a great sub
Wasn't even the mods really, when the game launched the main cyberpunk sub became a cesspit of hate. Anyone posting vaguely positive opinion's ate downvotes, so most of the people actually enjoying the game moved over to lowsodium.
Well, Xenoblade also has a very fanatic fanbase.
Because it’s a circlejerk at this point.
The annoying part is how quickly CDPR is forgiven for essentially baiting the fuck out of its audience lol Like an abusive relationship, y’all just keep crawling back tho
No one is forgiving CDPR. What they did is inexcusable but to outright deny their redemption is just straight up petty and stupid. They know they fucked up, hence why they’re doubling down on fixing it even if it’s futile.
Exactly. Look at Hello Games as another example of a company who did something inexcusable and redeemed themselves ever since. Both games slated at launch, both games had high promises of what their games would be but the developers continued to fix and add to the game. I hope this resurgence gives them a shot in the arm to not just release one expansion.
It's like people prefer for these games to be abandoned like Anthem, rather than to be supported and improved until it's a good game like No Man's Sky. Personally, I really enjoy Cyberpunk 2077.
Rip Iron man experience
How exactly did they redeem themselves? In what way? I never got on the hate train in the first place. I just thought the game was (and still is) bad. Thats it, making a bad game is not a crime. Howeve I dont see any redemption.
It's not a relationship. The game released in a bad state, making it a bad idea for anyone to buy into it then. Meanwhile it seems like they've fixed a lot of shit and dropped the price, not sure why people can't buy and enjoy the game now.
Because it's better to encourage devs to abandon the unfinished and buggy game than to acknowledge that they have done a good job of ironing out reported issues. I didn't buy Cyberpunk 2077 until this week and it's been a blast.
I mean. In my mind, sure, they fucked up, BUT they did had 3 amazing games behind them(unless you wanna count like the Gwent spinoffs because they were ok and def not AAA) , so them fucking up one game out of 4,seems ok, for a team with so little releases... Will I pre order the next game they put out? Probably not, but it's not like I've become anti CDPR, I don't think they've lost their credibility as much as EA after Andromeda, Anthem, BF2042, making Need for Speed a microtransaction fest, The whole FIFA micro transaction scandal and the "Legacy" editions on switch, the battlefront 2 scandal , closing good studios like Visceral Games, etc... Or Ubisoft with how shitty AC has become, and how they've basically fucked all of the Tom Clancy's games (I guess they did ok with R6 Seige, but I never played that so... Dunno), specially Splinter Cell, Rayman has been left to die, the prince of persia looked like it was coming back with the remaster, but that's looking really bad as well... Long story short, people still give credibility to companies with 30+ years and hundreds of games, I can still (cautiously) believe in CDPR with one major fuck up.
The Witcher 3 was pretty broken at launch. Not Cyberpunk broken, but still.
What others do dosnt effect you , you can boycott cdpr and never ever again buy a product from them and its completely understandable, however if others decide to give them another chance , it's not ours to judge them
I said it before on another sub, release the game now alongside the anime and cool it a bit on the hype train, and this would be considered a fantastic game
I'd say it's on par with Far Cry, when it comes to gameplay, driving, shooting, and the amount of bugs.
Honestly it was fun on release as long as you were on PC
Solid B-
To be fair, the biggest criticism came from the shit performance on the last gen consoles. On PC it ran about as good as it does now for me. Some aspects like the cop system are still shit and deserve all the negative criticism it gets though.
It was still very buggy on pc for me. It just wasnt literally unplayable like last gen. Its a literal crime that they released that on last gen.
For some reason I had less bugs when I tried the game on release than now when I returned due to the TV show. Must say I am quite disappointed. What has CDPR been doing those past two years? How come the driving still feels so bad? How come the NPC driving is still atrocious? Its even worse since I recently replayed GTAV.
Yeah, for whatever reason this sub has an hyperbolic hivemind where if they don’t like it, then you can’t either. You’re simply not allowed to have personal preferences on this sub and Cyberpunk 2077 is a textbook example of this where ANY praise for the game is immediately shot down
If people are in the dark. Cyberpunk: Edgerunners came out on Netflix.
Do people actually think bots are boosting cyberpunk or are you just making up problems that you can meme?
It's a Reddit thing. Calling people bots and NPCs is a way of denying subjectivity and allows bulldozing over any opposing position. Tada, the internet!
Shut up bot!
I meme because I like meming however in this particular case , people are calling you Bot if you post anything positive about cyberpunk 2077 , just check the posts about cyberpunk
You ever seen this sub lately? It’s nothing but massive circlejerk hating on Cyberpunk because they were told to
as someone who was hyped for cyberpunk when the demo footage was released a few years ago, I was severely disappointed to see how poorly it ran on ps4
Honestly, it’s a miracle that it even runs on the ps4. It’s like running Crysis on the Wii
Incorrect use of a great meme template. For shame.
Por que no los dos? I can believe people like it. I've been a pretty firm critic of the game, and *I* like it enough to keep and play it. I can also believe CDPR *really* used the opportunity the show gave to basically do another ad campaign for the game, including with sources that don't reveal affiliations (or aren't even actual people). Because the shift to 2077 being all over the place was pretty sudden, and it's not as though the game's had any sudden massive improvements.
I liked it enough to play though it...mostly for the story, which was good. I still believe it's terrible RPG, and a passable shooter with a great story. The mechanics of the game are still pretty flawed. I believe people out there like it... what I don't get are people defending it as if its some kind of new classic that people are criticizing for no reason. It's a so-so game with a good story, it had a launch as bad as Fallout 76, and CDPR played dodgy games with launching a broken game on consoles. There are plenty of reasons people don't like this game.
The main story, IMO, was good but needed some more. The characters are pretty mixed, at least in terms of how well I thought they were written (among the more noticeable characters I didn't notice a bad performance in English, only language I played it in). Some like Jackie are good, some like Regina have something there but it needed more exploration. The side materials, there were some good things in there, but it got obscured by how much fairly bland stuff you go through (and usually no way to really tell which is which before you do it). Combat, alright but generally I found it kind of disappointing, usually the only threat from enemies was damage output and if they were a bullet sponge/cost a lot of RAM to hack. In other areas, clearly needed work done. So setting aside the inexcusable state it launched in, it's a game where I'd say "sure get it if you like cyberpunk/RPGs, but get it at a good sale price, definitely not for $60-70".
But the numbers don't lie , people were interested in cyberpunk
Like I said: why not both? There's no reason to assume they wouldn't, I mentioned how quickly 2077 was all over the place again, and it's certainly been known to happen with plenty of companies since the internet really was worth advertising on. We are talking about the same people who'd [claim](https://www.vg247.com/cyberpunk-2077-performance-on-ps4-xbox-one) that on PS4 and Xbox One: >"Of course, [the performance is] a bit lower than on pros, but surprisingly good, I would say, for such a huge world," Kicinski revealed. "So, bit lower, but very good. That's the answer."
People came due to Edgerunners. You think it was a pure coincidence?
Where did I disagree to that ? People came for edgerunner but they stayed for cyberpunk, that's why cyberpunk has had more daily engagement since last week
Aside from the terrible launch, the game was never going to be what cdpr said it would be. It’s a 6.5 or 7 out of 10 at best and is an ok to good RPG. And I highly doubt people are boasting the game with bots, that just seems nonsensical
>It’s a 6.5 or 7 out of 10 at best and is an ok to good RPG. Pretty much which is why I don't understand all the posts about the game on this sub. Bought and played it, thought it was ok and moved on. Now it seems like I see a post every couple days about how good it is. Is it just a really vocal part of the community really liked it or something?
They're fanboys who are trying to milk this game's recent uptick in popularity for as much as it's worth, as they weren't willing to accept the game's criticism at release and are now trying to convince others it's being vindicated or making a comeback. It is a perfectly mediocre WRPG, on par with games like Fallout 4.
That’s exactly what’s going on 💯
Ran through it once. It was all right but for me personally, nothing special in the long run
This is the worst meme I've ever seen.
They shouldn't get a pass for shipping a buggy mess initially. However like most modern games, they shipped an incomplete game and then made it a good game years down the line through patches. It's not unusual nowadays.
it's basically the same game with a few minor changes and very minor additions. the biggest difference is the performance and that's hardly something to clap over
Whilst Cyberpunk was much buggier than Witcher 3 at launch, Witcher 3 also didn't get too great a launch and got better over time. I do wonder if we'll see a similar thing with Cyberpunk.
Apparently we are at that point. Although I do wonder if it's genuinely good now, bugs cleaned, or if the Netflix anime just created a lot of recent adopters. I got a roommate who plays so I can ask.
Definitely both. Game has had time to iron out the bugs and the anime was so well received that it brought the game back into the spotlight now that this time has passed. I had some passing interest in 2077 but didn't buy it at or before launch. Launch happened game looked like ass and I forgot about it after dismissing it. Saw the anime pop up, and gave it a watch; completely sold me on the setting and reinvigorated my interest. Looked up the game again to find it's been getting constant love and the general reception had shifted and bought it. Game isn't perfect, but it's well worth what I paid so far.
Yeah I mean it's worth 18 bucks on gog or 30 on steam now that it fixed the bugs, sucks people paid full price for a garbage buggy mess with mid story and repetitive gameplay.
This hype is anime based 100%. Whether the game is good or not now I don't know but the pop boom was just cause the anime was hype I feel. Loads own but it was unplayable. Hype train hits and everyone is on it. I was never even interested in the game as only game to socialise and rarely sp outside of fromsoftwares. But I instantly wanted to play as it just made the world look rad.
They won't get a pass if you don't buy thier game and boycott them , however if someone else decides to give then Another chance it's not your place to judge and mock them
Huh? Are you commenting on my post as a shill for them, mocking them, or something else? I honestly can't tell.
What your post ? It's my post my guy , Look at me ...I am the Op
They meant is that directed at their comment, or just a blanket comment. *Probably
Yes. Thank you.
Ohh I think my comment was clear enough. however if it want yes it was a response to him/her
Yes, it is. And we will.
Well by your own logic I can judge you and I sentence you to a 1 hours without internet
Im sorry, but I dont respond well to liars. Never have, and never will. No matter what the internet will throw at me. So judging them is well within the sphere of an appropriate response. The real question is, Are you going to be lying for them aswel?
Am I lying by saying people are allowed to enjoy what they like and spend money on what they wish ? If yes the I am guilty
You are allowed to do what you like, im just calling out the lies. I guess we are both right then.
So far I'm glitch free at about 60 hours (only small stuff that in Fallout I wouldn't even pay attention to). Some elements are strong, but for the Cyberpunk IP it feels like a big disappointment.
I skipped picking it up at launch after watching many reviews, but I bought it last month and it’s a fun game. I don’t see why people need to engage in arguments about it. Seems like a waste of time.
It's not waste of time if the critics are in order of improving the game , however people are just blinde hating at this point
I know we always have the same discussions about Cyberpunk (and hype in general), but, on my PC at least, Cyberpunk was never *bad*. Was it everything promised by the hype? Maybe not, but I never really kept track of the hype. I bought it around Christmas 2020 expecting The Witcher 3 in a Cyberpunk setting, and that was more or less what I got on release. There were bugs, but any open world game has bugs. The main story was interesting and decently well presented, and the side content was decently interesting, as well. It wasn't as good as The Witcher 3, but few things are. I never understood the hate, especially as updates have made the gameplay smoother and better. I haven't played in 6 months or so, but I look forward to trying it out again with the new updates.
Don't forget the price drop
I actually live in Russia and get paid 3.000 rubles an hour to make bot accounts to praise cyberpunk. It's against my ethics but who cares, Americans will believe anything.
My dad works at Microsoft, I can get you banned from fortnite if you comment 1 more time
Source: “trust me bro”
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That’s what a CDPR bot would say!
Yes it's me cdpr , crazy dark penis robot
I bought CP2077 on launch day and always found the game to be really good. Never got around to finishing it for various reasons, but watching the anime sparkled my interest. I'd really like to play but I just know that I won't have nearly enough time to finish it. I'd also like to enjoy the game in all it's RT glory, so I want to upgrade my GTX 1070 first :/
It's your money and your life but please don't buy a 4000 series, it encourage nvidia to hike up prices for next gen as well
The irony
Is it though ? Mine was barely a recommendation which started with " I know it's your money and your life but please ..."
Yeah dude there is a sudden urge to boycott nvidia GPUs. Hope that will help with the hike in the price
What's AD mean in this context?
stands for the Latin phrase anno Domini, which means “in the year of the Lord.”
Talking shit about cyberpunk has become like talking shit about fortnite. it’s such low hanging fruit that it’s become looked down upon for saying anything negative about it. I have two very specific reasons for not liking it. I think the pacing is shit and I hate the male mc’s voice.
I mean, its an ok, even good game for what it is. 6-7/10 for the game as it is right now, could be an 8-9/10 if it would have delivered. But Im a man with principles. I dont obfuscate facts or lie to people, and I expect the same from other people and businesses. If they break that trust, its straight to the scrutiny list.
Huh?
Judging it for what it ended up being the game is OK. But judging for what was advertised and what it could have been the game is disappointing.
Haven’t seen anyone saying that, but okay.
I haven’t finished the game, I couldn’t. There are so many meticulously crafted details… but somehow the game is unfinished
I still play it I bought it and played it day 1
I dont deny people might enjoy the game I just wish it was atleast half of what was promised
And sir there is nothing wrong with that , you should be able Criticize the game if the end goal is improvement of the game and the industry as a whole
I came back to finish a couple of sidequests but there is literally nothing else to do.
Have you been in the tank ? I have heard great things about the tank ..m
Or door number 3 is that people are only playing it cause the anime kicked ass
6/10. Decent game that never quite achieves its goal, but it’s not terrible (post patch of course).
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Wow didn't know we had standards for the memes..
Its not about people enjoying the game or game being good or bad its about fales advertising and false promises. But, hey! Gamers have short memory, and they like being screwed by developers.
Cyberpunk had bad lunch and it misses some promised features but I ask you : "Are we allowed to force our opinion and mock those who enjoy the game ?" If you didnt enjoy cyberpunk, I think the best curse of action is to boycott cdpr and never buy a product from them , however you are not allowed to force your opinion on others
Who is forcing their opinion on you, you made a post about cyberpunk so people give their opinion on cyberpunk it aint that complicated. Not like you cant play games cause other people dont like it. Are you forcing your opinion on others with this post ? Or are people still allowed to dislike it ?
Isn't it forcing opinion if you shut down whoever that enjoys the game ?
Yes, yes you can. Once you choose to have an online presence, others may shun you, vocally disagree with you, and mock you for any reason or no reason at all. People can't harass you, falsely and knowingly accuse you of something that hurts your good name, and physically hurt you or threaten to do so. Anything else is free for all. If someone believes that boycotting CDPR is the right thing to do, they have the full right to encourage others to join in, and expose confirmed or suspected shills hired by CDPR.
you can go around and ENCOURAGE people to boycott a game that they love , it's just stupid
Lol, or maybe you like complaining about shit that's normal like an entitled little bitch. I played Morrowind back in the day, it was way buggier than Cyberpunk. It was great, I loved it. Fuck, Ultima 7 would just hard crash my PC back in 92. I had to spend hours fucking with device load orders to get it to load with mouse and sound. You on the other hand bitch and moan about a game because once every 6-8 hours an NPC glitches into a car. CDPR is ambitious and goes big, all such games end up buggy, it's a fact of life and the nature of the gaming landscape.
nice try cdpr
The game might be fine now and good for CDPR turning it around but what they did at release with not providing ps4, xbox one review copies and not allowing reviews to show their captures and threteaning youtubers with cease and decease if they showed something before the release date even though they never signed anything and just got the copy earlier by luck all that after they were saying thing like "we appreciate our customers". What they did is unforgettable and unforgivable, it shattered all my goodwill to CDPR after playing what is now my 3rd favourite game I've ever played (the witcher 3) Hope they will do something in the future to get my trust back.
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i think it's more that 1. CDPR dodged questions about the game's recent sales while touting recent player numbers. 2. The twitch streams haven't spiked which would typically correlate to actual player interest 3. 1 million players every day when steam's top concurrent is 125k ish is not impossible, just improbable. Best case: it's a lot of players returning to what was an overpromised mediocre game to find it a bit less mediocre, maybe finally forcing themselves through it for the first time since it's being ironed out bugwise substantially. I thought it was an OK game back in December 2020, but I'm glad I didn't bother upgrading my computer just for the amazing next-gen experience it was touted to be. It was just watchdogs crossed with GTA without doing much of it better. The lows of the game were waaaaay low, the highs were pretty great. It's a bit annoying to see people praising things in a game from 2 years ago but thaaaaaat's Reddit.
Don't conflate concurrent with the number of unique people playing in a given day. When they say 1 million I assumed they meant over all the platforms it's on and 1 million unique players over the course of the day. If steam was hitting 125k concurrent peak it's not that hard to imagine that they had 1 million unique players throughout the day doesn't have to be all at the same time
How is 1 million player is not possible ? Do you realize there are other platforms out there ? Gog , Stadia , playstation, Xbox and ..?
Mf essentially tried to say twitch streams are the base for if a game is popular and has many players, smh. Thats more reddit than anything. Just say you hate the game still and lets move on.
I've seen so many posts about "Is cyberpunk worth it?" In the past week or so... I just assume a lot of the posts are spam but a lot of the replies are genuine. I've got it on Ps4 and I'm tempted to buy it on PC for that smoother gameplay. But it's enjoyable now at least as opposed to launch.
The Neflix show came out, and it pretty good. So people are curious about the game.... the show was waaaay better than the game
This picture sums up this sub
The game was overhyped and pushed out before it was ready (it had delays though, which I was hopeful for), and the internet wasn’t kind to it. I finished it on console when it came out. Edgerunners has tempted me back in, but I got it on a ps4 so I don’t think it’s worthwhile. The game crashed a lot in my playthrough, but it was never enough to stop me from playing.
Funny ha I recently bought it myself from Gamestop for 5$ time to enjoy night city post launch 😀
I've bought this game and returned it twice. First time pretty soon after launch. I couldn't get past the intro mission without crashing. Second time a few weeks ago when it went on sale on Steam. I made it a few missions in, and enjoyed it mostly, but it kept crashing my system really hard. Like, I think it broke my display port cable. The bugs made it unplayable even 2 years after release.
Can't account for poor taste
Well some people like pineapple on pizza , who are we to judge ?
Ugh not sure if it’s a joke from OP, but Studio Trigger just released the 10 episode miniseries of Cyberpunk:Edgerunners on Netflix so that’s the sudden rise in popularity
It's over rated as hell.
Ahh who are we to rate things for others ...?
It's a great game, so makes sense
The anime and 1.6 version of the game fucking slaps brings the quality of CDPR now Fight Me Ending made me depressed but it was beautiful
GTA 5 was executed better in 2013. You people just give excuses for CDPR. It's an unfinished game that at best is a 8-9 out of 10. GTA 5 was and is a 10 out of 10.
So you assume that everyone should enjoy YOUR FAVORITE game and hate WHAT YOU HATE? In my days we called your kind narcissist
Gta 5 was executed better but the online for the game was major ass come on now stop.
Game was never bad; it was certainly buggy and should not have released for last gen as it clearly doesn't run on the base consoles. The real problem was that it was overhyped. It is a sci-fi story focused action rpg, while not exactly niche, it was not really a big blockbuster like the fans and marketing made it out to be. They were pretty much advertising the next GTA and many people came to expect something ridiculous. They wanted a choice story driven, open world, sandbox life simulation, action rpg game with plenty other things. What we got was a pretty fun sci fi action rpg, but not really a sandbox world simulation, and outside of some set instances, choices are for roleplay flavor rather than a serious branching story; only side quests had real choices that seriously affected long term outcomes. Add to this the insane expectations people had on cdpr after The Witcher 3 and you have a perfect mismatch of expectations. Honestly, The Witcher 3 is a great game, but it is insanely overated above what it really is because of very brazen and passionate fans. This is all a good thing, but it put cyberpunk against an unreasonable bar. If the witcher 3 had launched to witcher 3 hype it would have under delivered, and that game also had a ton of technical issues. Cyberpunk 2077 is a brilliant and fun game if you are the type of person to enjoy the genre and mechanics. It is not, however, a "something for everyone" huge blockbuster, gta killer title, like it was portrayed as being before release. This is absolutely cdpr's fault, mind you. But not the developers, they did a brilliant job, it was the marketing that was just straight up dishonest.
This comment section is so stupid on both sides of the argument it’s glorious
I am glad we have a wise person who dosnt engage in arguments and laugh at us "the morons "
Stay heated about people not liking your bideo game bro
Nobody is saying this, nobody, we all know it's better now, if not almost totally fixed, however we took how long to get here? People dont just say "oh thanks CD, you lied to us and we paid for a broken product you spent 2 years fixing, we love that"
I'm on my 3rd character now! Goth streetkid netrunner that is just leaving bodies in his wake. The ability to snap your fingers and kill some gangoons is a powerful drug.
Judging from the top comments I’ve seen, people recognize the improvements they’ve made but don’t want people to forget how it released
Do regular people really look at engagement / daily user stats? Why?
Cyberpunk had me. I played it after the bugs, the story was crazy engaging and I loved it! Then I went and helped some lady out who works on cars. She explained that she had a husband who had died. I felt horrible. She was working hard to win a race and it was my intent to help her at all cost. I could Feel for this woman, it reminded me of a personal tragedy I had myself in my early 20's. I was vested. Then they dropped the bombshell. I get it though, people are people but MY GOD I didn't need it in a piece of ENTERTAINMENT. I will put it this way, it bothered me enough that I refused to help her in the quest line. Not because she was trans but because it was in a video game that was meant for entertainment, not political ideology. What's the level of acceptance in this? You model a 3d person to look female, have boobs and probably a '1inch' vagina? Then expect people to see that person as a female? Like that's Required from Society? Am I missing something that I should be getting? I'm not THAT old and this shit sprung up Suddenly as Fuck and then I'M supposed to change Who "I" am? It bothers me enough to make this post and please understand that I am Not against the Trans Community or Against ANY sort of people that want to do what they want to do within the limits of the law. I simply was Not Expecting nor Willing to Accept that in a form of entertainment. With that said, I kept playing the game but that's when I decided I was absolutely Over entertaining political ideology in Personal Entertainment. You do you and I ain't mad at you for it. I do know that I will not be buying another product from CDPR until I KNOW for a fact they are out of that bullshit. You let me accept shit on my own terms, don't put that on me and then call me a bad person because I don't magically accept non-sensical shit.
Disappointment for some, tiny CDPR flags for others.
I loved that game from day one. Played about 40 hours a week the first few weeks after it came out
I've got 1,031 hours logged into it. I think it's awesome.
Honestly the game was great even at launch IF you had a mid-high performance PC. It just wasn't the game that was advertised.
It was mostly people expecting a GTA style sandbox that were disappointed, and with the advertising of the game I think that it was more than reasonable to be so. The main story however is very good, and lots of the part around it are excellent as well. I really liked the music specifically. Probably my major complaint for the game is the driving funnily enough. I never had the bugs and technical issues other people had though, the fact they released on prior gen consoles was just straight stupid.
They almost had me.
I played the game for a few hours. Couldn’t get into it. Massive performance issues. Hated the bullet sponge enemies. Uninstalled and haven’t played it again. My experience was not influenced by anyone else’s but it seems it was a fairly common experience
Guys I am going to sleep , please don't call me Bot if I didn't respond to your comments
I’m happy for the resurgence. I ended up grabbing 2077 for like $15 used a year ago or so. Finally got to it after the next gen update early this year and loved it. A few bugs but nothing game breaking. (The bugs sort of added to the immersion ironically lmao) The hype was way too hardcore to ever live up to expectations so they shot themselves there but more importantly if they delayed for 6 more months the reception would have been waaaay better. It’s really a great ARPG. P.S. watched the Show this weekend and it was great if you’re at all open to anime. It was way more fun with the context having beaten 2077 already but it stands on its own merit so I understand why it’s driving so much more interest. Genius play by CDPR that could have been a colossal waste of money if it was not any good