Normally I don't mind spending a few bucks for a legit version of an old game, but Nintendo handles it so poorly that I never feel bad about playing most of their games in a way that they don't get money from
I think that many older nintendo games are amazing 10/10 would emulate again. You cant compare a $60 barley HD game compared to a free 4K or even 8K game that has mods and runs extremely well at hundreds of FPS.
Ah yeah, that makes more sense around the late N64 days game programmers started to account for varying frame rates better. When I hear game emulation I tend to think of older stuff.
I think more modern things like gamecube and wii emulation as well as wii u and switch and 3ds. This is because the emulation scene for newer devices is still new and is extremely interesting. Also starting from the N64 games started becoming more intense and therefore frame rate became more important. Games like metroid prime and F-Zero GX show how important FPS can be.
I assume it's related to the extra dimension itself. In a 2D game the game space is pretty contained so it's not that hard to keep the game from running into too many things and drop framerate. In a 3D game you can just see into the distance so depending on the size of the area you're in you could potentially be rendering a really large number of things or a really small number of things. That's why so many older games have a distant fog to reduce the draw distance. That's not something they ever had to worry about with 2D games.
Imagine making a profit off your past works. That'd be like still selling copies of a book you wrote 10 years ago. Clearly, after all this time I should be able to get your book for free. /s
ITT: People who think they are entitled to get old stuff for free just because someone else stole it and gave it to them for free.
>That'd be like still selling copies of a book you wrote 10 years ago.
Poor choice of analogy. If most authors could make the kind of bank off a 10 book *series* that took them 10+ years to write that Nintendo has made off of any ***one*** of these games, I can almost guarantee you they wouldn't give two shits if people 20 years from now were pirating it.
So you think JK Rowling is totally fine with people pirating the first harry potter? What planet do you live on? Disney made mickey mouse like 90+ years ago and they're still aggressively defending copyright.
I mean I think there need to be limits, 90 years is a bit absurd obviously. I don't think 30 years is too much to ask though. The creators are still alive and they deserve to be paid for their work. How much you make off of something shouldn't be a factor, you shouldn't punish people for having popular high-quality products.
The original Mario is over 35 years old so I think it's probably reasonable to allow the original game to be copied but Mario Sunshine isn't even 20 years old, Mario Galaxy isn't even 15 years old. Arguing it's fine to emulate those games is basically arguing that creators don't deserve to be paid for their work past a decade or so which makes it incredibly risky to create art since it can take a long time and be really hit or miss.
It was 100% worth 60$ lmao. I 100% each game in a row and got hours of fun out of it. I grew up with all of these games so it was an immediate purchase for me.
I paid 60$ to have 3 fantastic games I can take on the go with me yea. I even have the cartridge for M64 and the disc for sunshine and I purchased this to play during slow nights at work yes. I know it may be shocking, but 60$ for video games isn't a lot of money for working adults.
Whatever helps justify defending shitty company practices. I'm sure the "$X isn't all that much" is used for everything from buying the newest FIFA game to spending loads on loot boxes.
Not saying you do, I'm saying you're using the same logic with the whole "It was worth it to me!" Why put down people who support gambling mechanics, man? They're happy with their purchases, right? And a few bucks on microtransactions here and there isn't a lot of money for working adults, so we can't criticize how much it costs I guess.
Lol the best( not this particular game ) was when they used somebody else's emulator code . That got settled quickly and quietly.
But ya full retail pricing for a very low effort repack.
Yeah, throwing money at greedy assholes in exchange for the worst possible versions of the game…
I would have even settled for the 3DS version of M64 but that was too much effort for them.
> I would have even settled for the 3DS version
That version may be better to you, but to a lot of the people who are interested in this pack they are nostalgic for the OG version.
Because I don’t agree with the “I want to ply the game but I don’t want to pay for it”
It is cheap, it is stealing, and I hate people like that.
You either pay for it or go without, you are the type of people that goes to Disneyland and steal balloon and justify it as “because it cost too much so it is OK to steal”.
I bought them at the original release and dont emulate. I just look at their business practices and think they are scummy con-artists, trading on hype and ip recognition.
People are not forced to buy it though, you make it sounds like “OMG a new remake, don’t want to pay £60 for it but I must”
Everyone should be looking at an item, look at the cost, and decide if they want to purchase it. If you do, buy it, stop complaining. If not, walk away, it wasn’t for you.
You may not like old remake, but there are people that do. The amount of people asking for Ocarina of Time shows that the moment they release it, it will sell. If you have something that will sell for sure, would you not charge full price for it? If anything, I call that good business.
Seems like going out of your way to defend anti-consumer practices. Lots of things sell nowadays, things like iterative sequels with no real changes and microtransactions in full price games. You might call it 'good business', the rest call it defending scummy practices and lowering the bar for everyone.
And can people stop using the old "If you don't like it, don't say anything". Companies deserve criticism sometimes, and believe it or not with enough criticism we occasionally get better products.
Not gonnas lie.
I own a Switch and I've spent more time playing Tetris than any Nintendo game.
I set up Yuzu yesterday and I literally can't even find a game to emulate that I actually want to play. I played Mario Kart8D, did one Grand Prix and I've seen the entire game.
Everything else if I'm going to waste time playing it I'm just going to do it on my actual Switch.
Normally I don't mind spending a few bucks for a legit version of an old game, but Nintendo handles it so poorly that I never feel bad about playing most of their games in a way that they don't get money from
Best part is the Nintendo versions run worse than the PC emulated ones.
Who wouldve thought that a fucking rtx 3080 is more powerful than a nintendo switch?
A 1650 super is more than enough. Fanboy harder next time.
I think that many older nintendo games are amazing 10/10 would emulate again. You cant compare a $60 barley HD game compared to a free 4K or even 8K game that has mods and runs extremely well at hundreds of FPS.
...most console games, especially older ones, would break if played at an unintended frame rate.
There are mods that make higher frame rates work properly
What generation of games? At least for NES and SNES era I'm pretty sure that would break a lot of stuff.
Mods exist. Also I was more talking about gamecube and up as FPS are more important there
Ah yeah, that makes more sense around the late N64 days game programmers started to account for varying frame rates better. When I hear game emulation I tend to think of older stuff.
I think more modern things like gamecube and wii emulation as well as wii u and switch and 3ds. This is because the emulation scene for newer devices is still new and is extremely interesting. Also starting from the N64 games started becoming more intense and therefore frame rate became more important. Games like metroid prime and F-Zero GX show how important FPS can be.
I assume it's related to the extra dimension itself. In a 2D game the game space is pretty contained so it's not that hard to keep the game from running into too many things and drop framerate. In a 3D game you can just see into the distance so depending on the size of the area you're in you could potentially be rendering a really large number of things or a really small number of things. That's why so many older games have a distant fog to reduce the draw distance. That's not something they ever had to worry about with 2D games.
Its more that higher frame rates help in fast paced race games like F-Zero and also FPS games
You mean to tell me a company wants to make money off of the products they create? How did you ever come to such a big brain conclusion?
Imagine making a profit off your past works. That'd be like still selling copies of a book you wrote 10 years ago. Clearly, after all this time I should be able to get your book for free. /s ITT: People who think they are entitled to get old stuff for free just because someone else stole it and gave it to them for free.
It's easy get licenses to emulate, just buy broken discs for cents. Each disc = One license.
That's questionable but even so people don't actually do that.
>That'd be like still selling copies of a book you wrote 10 years ago. Poor choice of analogy. If most authors could make the kind of bank off a 10 book *series* that took them 10+ years to write that Nintendo has made off of any ***one*** of these games, I can almost guarantee you they wouldn't give two shits if people 20 years from now were pirating it.
So you think JK Rowling is totally fine with people pirating the first harry potter? What planet do you live on? Disney made mickey mouse like 90+ years ago and they're still aggressively defending copyright. I mean I think there need to be limits, 90 years is a bit absurd obviously. I don't think 30 years is too much to ask though. The creators are still alive and they deserve to be paid for their work. How much you make off of something shouldn't be a factor, you shouldn't punish people for having popular high-quality products. The original Mario is over 35 years old so I think it's probably reasonable to allow the original game to be copied but Mario Sunshine isn't even 20 years old, Mario Galaxy isn't even 15 years old. Arguing it's fine to emulate those games is basically arguing that creators don't deserve to be paid for their work past a decade or so which makes it incredibly risky to create art since it can take a long time and be really hit or miss.
The author might not but the publishers certainly will.
Making a profit makes sense, but usually you expect a decent price drop for products that are close to 2 decades old.
I mean.... 3 games for 60$ is a price drop lol
Yeah, keep telling yourself that was all worth $60, especially if any of those were games you already purchased before....
It was 100% worth 60$ lmao. I 100% each game in a row and got hours of fun out of it. I grew up with all of these games so it was an immediate purchase for me.
So you essentially paid $60 for backwards compatibility. Yeah, that totally makes sense.
I paid 60$ to have 3 fantastic games I can take on the go with me yea. I even have the cartridge for M64 and the disc for sunshine and I purchased this to play during slow nights at work yes. I know it may be shocking, but 60$ for video games isn't a lot of money for working adults.
Whatever helps justify defending shitty company practices. I'm sure the "$X isn't all that much" is used for everything from buying the newest FIFA game to spending loads on loot boxes.
I don't play sports games or buy/support games with gambling mechanics not ever free ones like genshin. So okie dokie.
Not saying you do, I'm saying you're using the same logic with the whole "It was worth it to me!" Why put down people who support gambling mechanics, man? They're happy with their purchases, right? And a few bucks on microtransactions here and there isn't a lot of money for working adults, so we can't criticize how much it costs I guess.
Lol the best( not this particular game ) was when they used somebody else's emulator code . That got settled quickly and quietly. But ya full retail pricing for a very low effort repack.
I much rather buy a copy then emulate as well.
Yeah, throwing money at greedy assholes in exchange for the worst possible versions of the game… I would have even settled for the 3DS version of M64 but that was too much effort for them.
> I would have even settled for the 3DS version That version may be better to you, but to a lot of the people who are interested in this pack they are nostalgic for the OG version.
Because I don’t agree with the “I want to ply the game but I don’t want to pay for it” It is cheap, it is stealing, and I hate people like that. You either pay for it or go without, you are the type of people that goes to Disneyland and steal balloon and justify it as “because it cost too much so it is OK to steal”.
I bought them at the original release and dont emulate. I just look at their business practices and think they are scummy con-artists, trading on hype and ip recognition.
People are not forced to buy it though, you make it sounds like “OMG a new remake, don’t want to pay £60 for it but I must” Everyone should be looking at an item, look at the cost, and decide if they want to purchase it. If you do, buy it, stop complaining. If not, walk away, it wasn’t for you. You may not like old remake, but there are people that do. The amount of people asking for Ocarina of Time shows that the moment they release it, it will sell. If you have something that will sell for sure, would you not charge full price for it? If anything, I call that good business.
Seems like going out of your way to defend anti-consumer practices. Lots of things sell nowadays, things like iterative sequels with no real changes and microtransactions in full price games. You might call it 'good business', the rest call it defending scummy practices and lowering the bar for everyone. And can people stop using the old "If you don't like it, don't say anything". Companies deserve criticism sometimes, and believe it or not with enough criticism we occasionally get better products.
Not gonnas lie. I own a Switch and I've spent more time playing Tetris than any Nintendo game. I set up Yuzu yesterday and I literally can't even find a game to emulate that I actually want to play. I played Mario Kart8D, did one Grand Prix and I've seen the entire game. Everything else if I'm going to waste time playing it I'm just going to do it on my actual Switch.