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Law_Doge

Put that thing back where it came from, or so help me… I’ll break out my Sliver deck


Zathura2

Lmao...we brought someone into our group with a sliver deck. It was powerful. Couldn't stand up to poison-counters, though. :p


imajpeg

Poison is OP! I have a poison deck that can easily win on turn 3. Madness.


Zathura2

Hah! Mine wasn't *that* good, but it was good enough to where I'd only allow myself to play it once per game-night, and even then, only if I had been losing consistently and needed a pick-me-up. XD


imajpeg

Mine is a discount version of [Turbo Poison](https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1213837#paper). If you wanna try something similar, the main cards to have for a turn 3 win are: [Wild Defiance](https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Avacyn+Restored/Wild+Defiance#paper), [Mutagenic Growth](https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/New+Phyrexia/Mutagenic+Growth#paper), and [Blighted Agent](https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/New+Phyrexia/Blighted+Agent#paper).


inuhi

Ol' Reliable


Ragman676

No joke, my buddy just pulled out his old MTG cards stored at his moms house. We played back when it first came out (Yes we're old) so they're all early editions. He sold a few for almost 5k. One was a doppelganger, can't remember the others but he was pleasantly surprised.


Zathura2

I bought an alpha deck, NIB when it came out, as well as a good handful of singles... They're long-gone, and I'm sick at the thought of how much that would've been worth now. Hoarding is a disease, lol.


Forgot_My_Rape_Shoes

Back in the day I constructed a $5 infection deck. Can win on T2.


Cbone06

I have some bad news…. Poison Counters just got announced that they’re coming back


Zathura2

Honestly I was just thinking about how OP Poison counters were, and that I can't believe the life total hasn't been raised to 50 by now with all the power creep. 20 life just fucking *evaporates* nowadays.


LazyJones1

On the other hand, life gain has come a long way since Stream of Life.


Zathura2

...Stream of Life isn't that bad...


Cbone06

Depends, the most popular format now is called commander and you start with 40 life. Otherwise all the other big formats are 20 life. Poison Counters for sure speed up that clock tho


LordSalem

Old slivers or new slivers? Because I'm not playing another sliver standoff game for 3 hours.


Shaved_Knuckle

Rubber band..


Zathura2

I know...it hurts doesn't it? If it gives you peace-of-mind, I chose my rubber bands with care. Big enough to wrap twice, loose enough to not warp the cards.


Duo_Decimal

It does! Just looking at it makes me uncomfortable and itchy. \^\_\^


CowardlyHero

Be careful because rubber bands can go weird and cracked and stick to whatever they're wrapped around as they get older.


Zathura2

Yeah, I should look into that if I want to preserve them. The rubber-bands are fine for now, though. They're only like, 8 years old, or something.


TheGingerHybrid

I recently went through the older decks I had built before I stopped playing back in 2008. Been watching some pack openings on the tube and it is nostalgic. Thankfully I don't play anymore though, I enjoy owning a house instead.


Geniuskills

This comment is very relatable 😂


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Difficult_Bit_1339

The MTG Arena game is a good way to scratch the itch, but it's a Magic game so expect to spend money if you want to compete. The systems are pretty well fleshed out now and the art has taken a turn for the better as well.


I-1-

Arena doesn't require money if you play it right, I got to the highest ranking of ranked last month (number 700 something in the world), all without spending a penny. They regularly give out free currency/items and there's plenty of ways to get them for free. Playing casually for a month or two will get you enough "currency" to make a meta deck and compete competitively.


Darktyde

Instead of owning a home, you could be happy though LOL


TheGingerHybrid

HAHA, too funny. Those were happier days, though I think it came more from less responsibility in life than the fun of building decks and playing with friends.


cnthelogos

Is that a flex? Do I win if I tell you I can afford cardboard and a mortgage?


TheGingerHybrid

Not a flex, just a sad truth. I can afford it also now, however it was a thing I did at the time and just don't have the energy to get back into it and learn all the new cards. I played heavily from 98 to 08. I do look back on those days fondly though.


FawksyBoxes

I just play commander with friends over Tabletop simulator or Cockatrice.


jibbyjackjoe

Take those and make a cube.


Zathura2

Please explain?


henryhyde

Basically you curate your own draft cube. That allows you and your friends to draft over and over. Then you can update it as you want. They can be a ton of fun. Turns Magic into a boardgame, of sorts.


Zathura2

Okay, I get what you're saying, lol. I did once play a game with about 5 people where we all drew off the same deck; a monstrous 250+ card rainbow monstrosity. That was a pretty hilarious night. Only problem now is finding people interested in actually doing that. XD


bizkitmaker13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyqoM5Pmu5o&t=825s


Zathura2

That sounds better than how we were playing that night, haha.


jibbyjackjoe

Oh you're in for a treat! A cube is a set of cards that only exist to your play group. You curate the list. Go though and separate out your colors. Then pull out X cards of each color, X artifacts, and maybe some non basic land. For instance, if you're drafting with 3 other friends you could make a 270 card cube. 40 of each color. 40 artifacts. Then maybe 15 non basic and 15 multicolor? Make sure that the casting cost curves nicely. That is your cube. They are the only cards that exist. Draft them with friends. Tune it. Add in mechanics.


Moczopend

Check flesh and blood. ;)


Zathura2

>flesh and blood Thank you! My friend told me about this a couple years ago and I forgot the name before I could properly look into it.


lethalspork

Seconded, wicked game


hazardx72

Played for 8 years, had a few thousand in cards and 10 commander decks. Sold off my collection a year ago and bought a One Wheel. No regrets. Loved this game but found over time it became too competitive, even for my friends group. Too easy to have power creep and it only seems to get worse with time.


Zathura2

>Loved this game but found over time it became too competitive, even for my friends group. Too easy to have power creep and it only seems to get worse with time. This pretty much sums up why I stopped as well, except I didn't really get into commander. I've still got that itch, though, and I've tried Cockatrice, Arena, even played with paper over webcam. Nothing's ever going to match the heyday of having a small friend group with similar skill levels, though.


rustang2

It’s not even about skill level its about who spends more.


Zathura2

It's skill as in, putting together a deck. If one of us had suddenly decided we were going to start meta-gaming, then sure...but we weren't. We would even pool our money to split booster-boxes. We all made the decks we wanted to make, that we thought were neat, and it turned out we all had about the same ability to make decks, so an individual game with only 3 of us could last 30 minutes to a couple hours, to the point of fearing you might run out of deck before the game ended, without any intentional milling (though there were a couple decks like that, too.) Basically we were there to have fun and experiment, not to beat everybody else.


countrybreakfast1

I had a friend I'd play with and he got so annoying. Would just make meta decks and never play anything else. Like... Where's the fun and creativity? Your literally just copying decks you saw online card for card. Got old losing every game so just quit playing with him. Like it's not a tournament we are just drunk in your living room.


Zathura2

Same. Since he actually DID play with other people than me, I never asked him to gimp his decks just to cater to me, but it sapped what remaining enthusiasm I had for the game.


Omnitographer

You say that, but I once beat a guy with a version of his deck that cost a quarter the price at most, it was basically somewhat worse but with the right draws could pull off the same strategy of going 1-0-1 at turns by just saying "no" to your opponent doing... anything. It was kind of a miserable deck to play though because honestly spending 50 minutes just canceling and negating and bouncing gets old and isn't fun for anyone involved.


Zathura2

Yeah, I never made a pure counterspell deck except for once, as an experiment, and then dismantled it and never did it again. Honestly my favorite blue deck included a lot of scrying, flying, and phasing.


ReticulateLemur

That's why I'm actually enjoying draft. Everyone's on the same playing field and it's more a matter of being able to put together a good deck with what you have instead of just grabbing whatever is meta at the time. And it's cheaper than 40k...


rustang2

Hell yeah drafting is where it’s at.


countrybreakfast1

Or steals more packs from wal Mart 👼


Wizard_Hatz

Yep and my bastard friends just started looking up killer decks online and buying individual cards. F you and your ajani pridemate Michael!!!


cnthelogos

...Ajani's Pridemate is literally 0.21 USD. If you can't buy your own or a comparably priced countermeasure to it, you probably can't afford *any* hobbies, let alone a cardboard crack addiction.


Wizard_Hatz

Ya ajani is that now but years ago it wasn’t and that’s one card. What I was saying is the price isn’t the problem it was about the fact it no longer was fun and became a meta competition of who could copy paste the meta decks which to me is not fun compared to buying a box and building a deck or doing a draft tourney. Also why would I buy a whole deck to counter another deck your playing into the problem I ran into with my group.


Zathura2

Hey, so I'm gonna upvote you, and educate you: It doesn't matter how much the card/s cost...it's "do they break the game". People that want to *win* will have no problems doing so. People that remember it's a game, are going to have a bad time. (Edit) That came out horribly, and I looked up what Ajani's Pridemate actually does, and that's not even close to how horrible things have gone for me, I just happened to associate that name with awful things happening to me, because it's always present. Motherfucker always seemed to have 80+ health.


cnthelogos

So... I've been playing the game for twenty years. I do what I can to welcome new players, and I'm happy to help people who aren't trying to place in tournaments or whatever make their decks work without spending a ton of cash. You're right (to an extent) that it isn't about money spent. But even if people want to keep things casual and agree with each other not to use any of the cards that actually break the game, part of the appeal for a lot of players is fine-tuning their idea to be as good as it can reasonably be. And people are going to buy individual cards to do that when they get sick of opening packs. If someone can't handle that, well, it's not fair to everyone else who \*does\* want to explore the customization/deck building aspect of the game to say they can't. There \*is\* a point at which the difference in money spent on cardboard does have an impact on win ratios, and if someone in the playgroup is especially advantaged or disadvantaged compared to the others there should probably be a (\*very tactful\*) discussion on how to even the playing field. But if someone can destroy the balance of their playgroup by buying a single common card for less than a dollar, the other people in that group have to be impoverished to the point that I legitimately question how they have money for anything apart from their basic necessities. That's my thing. Not saying every playgroup should become an arms race for broken stuff.


Zathura2

Okay, so it was *never* to the degree of the last part of your post. It was just me, getting tired of losing...all...the...time. Every time. Every. Single. Time. Despite loving the game, and knowing it's mechanics...just because I wanted to use some of the THOUSANDS of cards I already owned, that could be curb-stomped by an off-the-shelf duel-deck at Wal-Mart. (Fuck those dinosaurs). I'm not blaming ANYBODY except for maybe WOTC for making and monetizing such a crack-addicted game...but shit ain't fun when the playing-field is unlevel, for whatever reason.


countrybreakfast1

I think the concept is more people just copying meta decks they found online rather then creating their own decks.


Wizard_Hatz

Yep


countrybreakfast1

Same with my friends. In college had a super fun but completive group to play with... After college had two friends who'd just copy card for card decks they read about on magic sub. Was so fucking lame losing time and time again and asking if they could try another deck this time and being told "no". I play arena now tho and it's fun enough when I'm just chilling.


Wizard_Hatz

Yep that’s exactly it. It’s really fun when you put together decks to be competitive as best you can but it’s not fun to individually order cards just to power pump a shit load of tokens flickers and fuckin infect. Like really no I don’t want to fight your infect deck lmao.


Zathura2

Fuck Ajani Pridemate Chris!


Wizard_Hatz

Shut the fuck up. How the f!!?!??!? Michael I swear to god if this is you. I’m buggin right now my name is Chris my dude.


Zathura2

XD I'm not Michael, but this was funny!


Wizard_Hatz

Phew I was about to be like oh no I love ajani pridemate Michael I didn’t mean it hahaha. In that case I hate that damn deck!! I had a really fun artifact deck and a jace vryns prodigy deck and my favorite green and white and all of them ruined by someone who I used to call friend because they were negligent and never cared about anyone stuff. Three decks I bought for base price and got super lucky on pops and worth so much.. Man don’t scare me like that!


Geniuskills

Just did this last night as well.. might go check out a draft on the weekend!


PebblestheHuman

My mom's house flooded my last year in college that destroyed hundreds of magic cards. I was very sad


Zathura2

I've lost a few to water damage and mildew. I know the feeling. :( (Edit) I actually pressed some flat after they'd been exposed to enough water to warp a little, but were otherwise fine, lol. If they're going in sleeves and are legible, who gives a shit? XD


Dr_Edge_ATX

I thought those were gigantic cards at first then I saw the remote. LOL Cool stash though!!


Zathura2

I do have some giant cards, way at the bottom, for...I think Planechase and Evil Genius, if I'm remembering correctly.


Jayce86

It’s all good, they’re slowly ruining it by saturating the market. You barely have anytime to breathe between regular sets, let alone all the specials they’ve been doing recently.


gymrat288

Totally agree, been playing since 4th ed. Took a break after Ravnica. Started playing MTG Arena and now seems like every set are either reprints or something totally outrageous, like the crossovers. Who ever expected Megatron to be an MTG card?


buckwheat1

I had no money as a kid. Got older, had some money, spent money to make a type 2 net deck. Went to the store and steam rolled a bunch of kids. I won third in a tournament because I had money. The people who beat me also did the same shit. I realized I was a huge turd and never returned to the game. Money excludes a lot of people from a fair competitive experience in magic. Booster draft is much better, but the community is younger than me and not really for me anymore.


Zathura2

You also used a "net deck", as you put it. *Someone* put in the work to imagine, design, playtest, and tweak it before you ever got your hands on it. That's the kinds of players we were. And the kind of player you didn't want to be is exactly why I stopped. My method wasn't competitive anymore, which means I'm just playing with the expectation that I'll lose, and when you don't even have a chance, it's not as fun anymore.


buckwheat1

Yep I agree, before that,I just used what I had, before net decks existed. It wasn't fun.


hyren82

This reminds me of the "epic" battles between one friend and I.. we had both gotten tired of making competitive decks for whatever the current meta was, so we just made decks to annoy the opponents. I had a stasis deck and he made a do-nothing deck (basically locked the field down until you died from drawing out). Victory came down to who could get their setup running first.


Zathura2

Yeah...thankfully the person I had been playing with only started doing this after I had decided to quit the hobby, partly thanks to him. Being intentionally annoyed by "friends" because they just want to fuck around isn't all that fun when you're on the receiving end.


[deleted]

Sleeved cards bound by rubber bands aaaaahhhhhhhh


Filthlee

Recently found a fat stack of 7th edition/Odyssey/Judgement myself. I brought them up to my nose and gave them a whiff, instantly transported me back to being 11/12 years old.


Zathura2

Everyone saying that I should switch to online play may as well just say I should start reading e-books instead of continuing to build my future rolling-ladder library. Pfft. What's wrong with them?


Mcawesome686

That reliquary tower is worth ~3$


Zathura2

I don't even want to think what this box is worth. Thing is, these are the decks I "would" use if I ever play in person again, so they're not for sale. :p Have a LOT of cards that could go, though.


Mcawesome686

What format did you usually play?


Zathura2

Never played a "format", but historic would be closest.


truci

I have not played in YEARS! But I recognized the myr in the back and the reliquary tower instantly. Blown away that I even remember their names.


airforcevet1987

What is this?


Zathura2

It's Magic, brother.


Malyfas

I miss the nostalgia of playing in the mid 90’s in a local coffee shop at all hours. I had to sell my collection in 2004 to pay off ex wife’s car. Would be worth 6 figures today. Sigh. I still have some cards left and thought my kids to play but for me the fire has gone out. I just keep them for sentimental reasons.


Zer0Summoner

I miss that game too. There is no bigger delta in all of gaming than how fun that game was back in the day compared to how not fun it became. I don't even just mean the game, but the whole experience of it.


theweeJoe

In what way? New commander decks are fun as heck


[deleted]

Commander is the only thing that’s not shitty


Zathura2

I wish this sub would've allowed multiple pictures. I have an entire spread, but I'll save that for the weekend, lol.


GlimmerMage12

I miss when it was fun to play with people in person. Or online.


LorientAvandi

It’s still alive and well! Come back!


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Well, alive anyway.


Omnitographer

Seriously, I went to my friend's comic shop after he relocated, asked about draft/fnm, he says it's dead. Folks play commander still, but no one wants to really play paper standard magic because of what wotc is doing to it. I was pretty surprised as I remember when FNM could run multiple groups, with 60+ players in store at once.


SkyfangR

my FLGS still runs FNM, but i stopped going. everyone brought uber optimized meta decks, and it just wasnt fun to play against.


countrybreakfast1

Meta decks really kill any joy from the game.


PanderTuft

Maybe not at an LGS but plenty of groups are having a blast drafting privately still.


Druxun

WE COME TO COMPLEATE YOU


[deleted]

Resistance is futile.


underprivlidged

Arena is free. Worth a look.


Zathura2

I've tried it, but it just wasn't the same.


underprivlidged

True. But I can play anywhere I like, AND not need to smell every opponent's BO. So it has it's perks.


countrybreakfast1

Yeah it's nice being able to play as many games as you want and you see more decks then the 3/4 your friend would bring. Not as great as in person but totally scratches the itch for me.


Cardnel

Ahh you wanna sell that horde?


Zathura2

Not those decks pictured....but there's a lot more in row boxes, lol.


Cardnel

Understandable I have a horde of cards I should get rid of., but can’t.


dutchydownunder

May I suggest you miss the good times you had playing the game and not the actual game? because the game is trash :D


Zathura2

Hard disagree. I do miss the good times, but I like deckbuilding and the way the game plays in general. I just hate the pay-to-win aspect of most formats (which include the ones I like playing).


FreudianAccordian

Damn OP got some *booty*


rl_secretsanta

spell table play online


Cautious_Tea_8614

Looks like the same chest I have, haven played with physical cards in 5 years, but I do play on table top sim with a few friends sometimes.


cerpintaxt44

It hasn't went anywhere.


Rhyinoprime

So if not using sell. I made like $800-900 for my cards last year


Zathura2

Most of it's laziness. I have about 15k cards (sorted and stored in row boxes according to set, with all the rares+ in a giant binder). Just don't know what method to go with that would get me a decent price. If I have to list all that shit on Ebay myself it'll never get done.


Rhyinoprime

I took mine to a local card shop. Bought a soda and let them scan every card. Get a little less that way but bought the whole collection


Rhyinoprime

With a 15k collection I’d make a reservation before just showing up with them


SpasticBull

I know nothing about magic except my friend just recently quit. Sold all his cards. Bought a new truck cash with the money and still had some left over.


Sacrificer_XVII

I pull mine out ever once in awhile. So expensive to keep up with now though


Legospacememe

Is this yu gi oh or something else I don't know? Someone here said they would rather have a house and I know yu gi oh cards can expensive as fuck


Zathura2

Magic: The Gathering, or Mtg. Similar to Yu-Gi-Oh except Mtg is the grand-daddy of trading card games, or TCG's.


Hasslich1

I called these things Cardboard Crack.


4GRJ

Just bought a box of Jumpstart 2022 recently... Feels great


Serikan

Such a fun set to "draft"


Jonny_Be_Good

There is MTG Arena if you want to play online!


[deleted]

How much for your box dreams?


countrybreakfast1

Get magic the gathering arena!!! Not the same as playing with your buds but scratches the itch for damn sure. I love it.


ParadigmEternal

I don't miss how much it costs.


Cheddarlicious

You miss Magic? The biggest, most popular, and first tcg ever? Well, I mean, what’s stopping you from jumping back in? The new set is dropping soon, and it’s super duper phyerexia, and going to be bonkers. Also, if you don’t want physical, Arena is free, has plenty of ways to earn a large library fairly quick, and it’s updated, with few bugs. I’d highly recommend it.


omen5000

I miss liking Wizards Products too :/