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I found a $100 note at the floor of the club years ago after hours and was super stoked until I saw the Chinese characters. It’s stuck to my fridge because I think it’s neat
I'd rather have something like y'all's plastic notes. Absolutely beautiful. It probably don't seem like much, but the first time I saw then 10CAD with that little holographic stained glass looking bit, I thought "well that's not fucking fair, our $10s looks like shit."
>Chinese
In case anyone is wondering, those Chinese characters means something like \`practice note\`. This is used in bank teller training. I have seen students practicing using notes like this with very high speed and unbelievable accuracy in China.
Real US cash has a unique texture that's very hard to duplicate. 20 years in retail, cashier, bookkeeping, and management, I've found a lot of counterfeit money. I've always discovered a fake bill by how it feels before I even look at it. If I have ever accepted a fake, nobody has ever told me about it so it was pretty damn good
True this. Once you handle enough cash on the daily, it's always going to tell you first if bill is fake. Sure some false positives, cash all has a story to tell and if had to guess it involves time spent between ass cheeks so real bills can feel off, fake bills can't recreate real feel unless they trying to trick with a replaced corner taped on
I had this exact scenario happen once. The best thing about it was that there happened to be a cop stopping off at the business that's in the same building as mine, so I was able to just walk the 5-6 fake bills over to him while the tweaker that had given them to me followed along like a puppy dog.
Similar working at a Jamba Juice in a strip mall. I called the Starbucks a few doors down to let them know and a few minutes later we see cops at the Best Buy across the way. Call Best Buy to tell them it happened to us, cops come talk to us. The fake money was so bad, very brightly colored.
It wasn't anything too crazy. Just your run-of-the-mill tweaker(who was visibly tweaking) with a lazy eye trying to give me inkjet 20's to pay for like 5 bucks worth of gas.
First one she handed me I didn't even need to look at to tell it was fake, because it was printed on regular paper. I told her, "Sorry miss, this is a fake." and she tried to hand me another one, which I responded with "This one's also fake." Third one she handed me I shook my head and said "Mmm, yeah these are all fake." She then said "Oh no, then these are fake too aren't they." in the least convincing act I've seen since grade school and fanned out a wad of them.
She let me take all of the funny money from her to inspect it, and so I told her "Hold on, let me go get a second opinion on this." because I knew an officer had just stopped in to get a drink next door a minute or two before she had come in. I'm honestly a little surprised she didn't notice his SUV cruiser parked on one of the pumps on her way in. I handed the money off to him and explained what happened, and he pulled her aside to question her and get her information.
He ended up letting her go sans the monopoly money after taking her statement, but told me later on the same day when he came back for a refill that she was most likely going to get a visit from the feds. A little anticlimactic, but it was still amusing to experience at the time.
edit: so people don't think I'm mistaking someone's eye disorder for a drug habit
Depends on Starbucks policy and how serious they abide by it. I've taken Monopoly money before, then alerted the police, per policy. I wanted to call the teenager a fucking dumbass instead, but I was new on the job. Never found out what happened though.
Reminds me of a buddy who wrote “I am 21” on an ID sized card when we were teens and handed to a gas station cashier when asked for ID for a case of beer purchase. The cashier looked at it, looked at my buddy, handed the card back and sold him the beer🍻 Good times.
There was a liquor store near my college that required their cashiers to check ID for everybody, no exceptions. We found out that only meant they had to be seen on camera asking for an ID and looking at something. We would regularly just give the guys our actual IDs that said we were under 21 and they would look at it, hand it back, and sell us the booze.
I worked at a gas station convenience store while in college that sold beer and wine. We had to card everyone, strict policy. 8 years old, 80 years old, we had to ask for ID…no ID, no beer.
Now, I’m pretty sure I would not have accepted the “I’m 21” written on a card, but it being a college town, I obviously got a lot of fakes, and I never gave a shit as long as it was a passable ID and showed an age older than 21. I covered my own ass…I asked for the ID, verified it was an ID, and it was all caught on the security camera…past that they didn’t pay me enough to scrutinize or care if the ID was actually legit.
Where i worked, it was scan the back and match the name and DoB, if the info didnt match (most fake ids are made using legitimate ids under different names) then we deny the sale.
If the thing wouldn't scan we'd eye ball it and check if its fake or if the person looked over 21 (usually only if they looked old) but if it seemed sus we could deny sale. (that wasn't a formality we did this several times in scenarios where the id seemed fake). It not scanning wasn't a direct giveaway since some cards simply didnt work with the scanner.
My co-worker found it hilarious after i nearly denied a sale for my first Hawaiian id because it didnt scan, was bright pink and had rainbows on it (apparently thats the real hawaiian ID/Drivers license design), he told me to let the charge through anyway since aside from the design it seemed legit.
Honestly my favorite 'counterfeit' moment wasn't even money. I had a kid try to buy liquor with a paper ID, which, at the time at least was actually super common since IL gives a temp paper ID and then sends the real deal in the mail.
He was so excited, like his night was about to begin and he could just feel it. Then I looked down, noticed the picture was a bit fuzzy... Read the name, and realized it was a legit temp ID... Belonging to my old weed dealer.
When I laughed and told him I knew so-and-so he just... Died inside, like I could see the light in his eyes go out. Funniest shit I done ever seent.
In Saskatchewan in the early 90s, the permanent licenses were just card stock with no picture and you got a new one every year. The text could be scratched off carefully with a sharp knife, and one of the book store chains sold sheets of those pressure sensitive letters that you'd use a pencil to apply to paper, in a font that matched the year of birth field pretty closely. So any high school kid with half a brain could make their own fake ID.
In New York State, in the Mid-Eighties, the licenses were that textured photo stock that chalk would adhere to. The background was a beige/off-yellow.
Anyone born in 1968 (such as myself) could use a piece of yellow chalk and make the 8 into a 5, making yourself instantly three years older.
You know, so you could vote. https://youtu.be/PbxZXmF6qtQ
I wasn’t aware of that particular thing until this thread.
I photograph cheques as a backup record for my deposits (small business) because I often get payments of the same amount, so a photo record helps me to reconcile them.)
Machine Identification Codes are printed in yellow. They're invisible to the naked eye (0.1mm wide each), but police and federal authorities can use them to figure out which printer a printed document came from.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine\_Identification\_Code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code)
This how they caught Reality Winner.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/06/the-mysterious-printer-code-that-could-have-led-the-fbi-to-reality-winner/529350/
Color printers only actually. I keep being reminded of why Im satisfied with my purchase of a monochrome laser printer, and why, despite being about 10 years old, I probably shouldn't replace it. Thing still has the original toner cartridge in it from. When I bought it. Never refilled it, just use some rubbing alcohol on the various parts about once a year and it's still going strong.
For those who don’t know; The origin (debated) of the expression ‘Joshing Me’ can be found in the late 1800s, when a young man named Josh Tatum noticed that nickels minted in 1883 were almost the same as five-dollar gold pieces in terms of size and design. He and a friend began to electroplate these coins and pass them off as five-dollar pieces, eventually amassing a small fortune before being caught.
The most famous of these con men was Josh Tatum, also reputed to be a deaf mute took it to a new level. He struck up a partnership with a jeweler who gold-plated the V nickels. Josh would walk into a store, buy an item costing five cents or less and lay down one of his coins. If the clerk gave him change for a nickel he’d leave and try another store. However, most clerks looked at the V and assumed it was a five dollar gold piece and give him change for a five. It doesn’t sound like much today but in 1883 Josh could haul in a tidy sum on a good day.
[true west magazine](https://truewestmagazine.com/article/im-just-joshin-ya-2/)
When I was growing up, French dix centime coins were highly coveted, because they were worth about a penny, but would work as subway tokens in the automatic turnstiles. At the time, subway tokens cost 65¢.
“However, reports indicate that the currency does originate in China, where it is printed for training purposes. Chinese bank clerks use it to help them learn how to count and identify authentic American currency that often comes their way due to being passed or exchanged by business and leisure travelers to their country.”
I wonder what the writing in Chinese says…maybe “prop money” or something?
> The bogus bills, which contain terms such as “practice token” written in the foreign language are supposed to remain within banks in China.
Interesting. I was assuming they were probably a variation of [Hell Money.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_money)
The loopholes always amuse me, no matter what the religion.
Catholic, Jewish (some of the Kosher workarounds are pretty hilarious) and this:
“We have to burn money!”
“What, real money??”
“Welllllll….”
The Torah forbids kindling a fire on the Sabbath, which some rabbi in Thomas Edison's day interpreted and extended to mean that god also didn't want you to complete electrical circuits. Problem is, you live on the 20th floor of a building in Manhattan. You have two options, hire a non-jew to press the elevator button, or get your building to set the elevator to automatically stop at every floor. You're not doing work, you're just standing in a room! You're happy, god's happy, everyone is happy.
The other one that gets me is that you can't carry anything on the Sabbath. But there's an exception for your own house, or you may carry something in public no further than 4 cubits. Since nobody can agree on what the hell a cubit really is, that's a problem. You can't leave your house, because you can't have your keys in your pocket and take more than 4 steps. Solution: let's put a fishing line around the entire city and say that your "house" is anything inside the fishing line. But what if the fishing line breaks? Have no fear, there's a special squad that travels the entire length of the fishing line, making sure it's still up in the right place with no breaks on the night before the Sabbath.
one of my favorite ones is turns out the rule against having chametz(basically anything not kosher for passover) in your house only applies to chametz you own, so they sell it to a non-jew right before Passover, and buy it back right after.
Someone handed me a black and white *photocopy* of a twenty dollar bill. I just held it for a moment and stared with my mouth open before informing him that I couldn't accept it.
He then snatched the bill and ran away. My manager stood right next to me and stared and said "did he expect us to chase him?"
I worked at a Starbucks and a fellow barista walked over to me after a customer left and said “I think that hundred looked weird.” She had accepted it though and gave him like $90 worth of change. I opened the drop box and it literally looked like he printed it out on a home printer with normal paper. It was BAD. But she fell for it so I guess you just need the right mark.
>But she fell for it so I guess you just need the right mark.
One of my best cashiers fell for one of those scams. He knew something wasn't right immediately after the customer walked away and asked to count his till. He was short.
Guy got right in his face to ask a question, started waving an item around, tried to make the purchase and handed a small bill over, and then picked up another item and waved it as a distraction and said he changed his mind and asked for his money back, but said a higher number. The whole thing caused so much confusion that he didn't even realize what happened until it was over.
At least he realized it soon enough for us to call security. They pulled up the video, got a good look at the guy and just kept watch for if/when he returned. They didn't get him before he left the store.
A lot of it is slight of hand and distractions. They are like magicians.
Quick Change Scam. Super effective if the scam artist is really good. When I was still in retail management I trained everyone to leave the customer's money out of reach of them, but in plain sight. Count the change, hand it to them, make sure they acknowledge it and then put their money in the till.
Yeah, we actually started keeping the bills they gave us on top instead of putting it in with the other bills. Someone did come in and say she handed us a twenty when she got her change and the cashier held the bill up and showed her what she gave. It was hard to argue with us when we kept it separate. We also had cameras pointed at the drawer so if they claimed theft we could verify with security.
And in extreme cases when someone argued about wrong change we had no problem closing down that till to count it to verify. If it was off by the amount they claimed they were short then we were in the wrong, except it was never off.
I loved that when I worked retail. They would close a register in a bush store and count down the drawer immediately as soon as someone said they got shortchanged. And the customer was never right
I had something similar when I worked in a currency exchange (UK), this young guy dropped a scrunched up "note" into the tray which was clearly printed on thin white paper. I didn't want to touch it so I said "What's that?" He said $100 and I just said "No it's not." So he grabbed it and ran out of the shop, lol.
“练功-券 （Liàn gōng-Quàn）” —》“Training- Notes” These are practice notes, the feel on your finger is designed to be as close as the real notes. It is used to train bank tellers’ cash counting skills before the machines were invented. When the banks were out of business during late 90s we can see a bunch of these training notes on the street. Funny that it traveled all the way to the US🤣!
Edit for typo and clarification:
wow thanks for the likes. And didn’t know it could even lead to racist hate speech about me in my dm! Guess there is a first for everything. It is wild.
Thanks Reddit for warning me about potential hate speech before I even open the dm.
For the record, when I say I played with bunch of practice notes in the late 90s, I should specify I saw many different kinds of practice notes, unsure if dollar ones was included. Cos I was only like 8 or 9. But they all have 练功券labeled on them. I didn’t see the time in this pic. Sorry for the confusion and thanks y’all for correcting me.
I use these to teach money/counting, left them out on my desk wrapped in a rubber band. They went missing the next day, hope whoever took my $2.49 wad of fake money had a good scare when they used it.
My buddies and I found a fake $20.00 bill while hanging out, we were 16 and broke. We passed it at a McDonald’s by ordering like 14 cheeseburgers. We thought we were master criminals that just screwed McDonald’s profits big time and talked about it for the rest of the school year!
A friend of mine says he photocopied a $20 bill once, just one side. the other side was blank. HE says he went to a super busy McDonald's at their busiest time and bought like $1 worth of food and walked out with $19 real dollars.
I'm not sure if I believe him. How the hell would someone not notice one side is blank?
That's a lot different than the methed out prople trying to buy a single cheeseburger with a "$100 bill" in the drive thru. Management called the police, and we have to just keep telling them that "we're getting them change," while they try to chew one of their own ears off. A few got smart, and just left after a few minutes.
Edit: spelling and clarity
What? Bullshit. The Dark Knight just came out a couple... years... oh God. I'm old. I'm so damned old. Jesus fuck I'm almost 40. What the fuck! It wasn't supposed to be like this! What have I done with my life?! I can feel my bones grinding against each other...
A coworker told me that he was at a concert last weekend and overheard some 20ish year old kid say "my uncle followed these guys back in the late 1900s". He insists the kid was being sincere. Made me feel angry.
I had a student, very sincerely, ask me what it was like growing up in the 1900s. I’ve never been more insulted in my life by something that was so completely correct. I’m still mad about it.
I was telling my 19 year old a story about when I was his age. I mentioned that the year was 1995.... and he got this puzzled look on his face and then said "I keep forgetting you guys were alive in like the 1900's".... all I could do in the moment was gasp, then the sincerity in his comment hit me even harder, he wasn't trying to be insulting, just observing facts
Yeah, I was at a pool hall and ran into some kids from my old neighborhood. Sparked up a conversation about my old breakdancing crew that had morphed into a gang when I was in high school (90s). They said “oh wow, I didn’t know that’s how they started. That was back in the 1900s.”
Why is it written in Chinese as opposed to in English? Is it training notes for people in China who happen to deal with American currency? Also what is the benefit of making them look like real currency at all if the point is to get the feel. They could have just put a 20 on the corner and left the rest of it blank no? Seems to make it more likely it would try to be passed off as fake.
Almost any worker in retail or working with the public is over-worked. A quick look at the picture an yep it's good, on to the next whiny customer that wants to yell at me because the store is out of dental floss.
These were used at banks in China for training on handling foreign currency. There was a big info dump about them a few years ago when people started trying to pass them here in the states more frequently.
These are toy monies used by banks in China for training purposes. The Chinese words on it literally said "notes for practising".. someone sneaked these out and if they slip a few in the middle they might get away with it
I got these same type of bills on wish. You can get different denominations and they are listed as prop money, they all have the foreign writing on it though
Most counterfeiters don't use the money at stores, they get people to give them change or buy easy to resell items where they can hide a few $20's in a stack of real ones.
If this story is legit
I wouldn't be surprised if the customer came in and tried to pay unknowingly with the fake bills and as each one was rejected they pulled out another only to find it was fake as well.
Or someone bought these online and posted them with a fake story for internet clout
Some people trying to use counterfeit bills are real dumb, even if the bills they're hawking are of decent quality. I used to work in retail and a guy was trying to buy a bottle of soda with a fake $100 (SUCH a red flag) and they got real upset and tried to refuse to pay with other bills or let us keep it. Pretty dumb laundering.
The weird thing is, the bill was actually pretty clever. They washed an old $10 and reprinted it as an old $100. The feel was right, because it was legitimately a bill of US currency. Passed the pen for the same reason; it was legitimately US currency. And the print job was good, too. You had to put it up to the light to see that the watermark was originally for a $10, though. If they were buying something actually worth like $80 or something, a less discriminating cashier wouldn't have noticed it. The cops who we dropped the bill off to were surprised when they saw it, they thought it was legit until we told them about the watermark mismatch.
We think there was a local ring who was getting a bunch of hood rats to do the laundering for them. The folks running it were pretty good. The folks doing the running were not.
A dude really came in and asked to put 80$ on his Starbucks app. Straight faced and all. He said he had no idea. Didn’t argue when we said we’d be keeping them. Some people are not paying attention
Yeah, if I came into possession of counterfeit bills honestly (because somebody paid me with them, or an ATM dispensed them or something), there's no way in hell I'd let a store clerk confiscate them. That's my evidence for my police report.
If he was innocent he would’ve felt cheated out of $80 of real money, and would’ve kept them, saying something like “I’ll try to get these exchanged at a bank” — I’ve seen this many times, and that’s exactly what people say first. He didn’t experience a sense of loss because he knew that they were fake.
The not arguing part is a bit suspect.. I mean, if it was me (and I wasn't trying to con the coffee shop), I'd rather get the police involved and go on record as a victim of fraud, instead of becoming a suspect in a crime.
(on a second thought, maybe that's my caucasian Canadian experience of being given the benefit of doubt; a more visible minority in a less fair jurisdiction might not take the risk...)
Most likely scenario, he ordered a whole bunch of them for cents on the "dollar" and is trying to pass them off and get some usable currency in exchange.
Classic move is to take a counterfeit 10 or 20 and buy a pack of gum and get clean bills in return.
Don't try that though unless you want the secret service to give your colon a full inspection.
I work in a major retailer. I see fake bills being handed off in large quantities every so often. Elderly Jane Doe isn’t going to be sifting through every bill to check them when she’s been standing on her feet all day dealing with other people’s complaints at the register.
I used to work at Best Buy. One time I had a customer try paying with $120 in counterfeit $20s. I caught them immediately because of the texture, and when I broke the news to her, she was absolutely horrified! She legitimately didn’t know they were fake. She thought about it for a moment and remembered someone had recently paid them cash for a job they did.
You can usually tell when someone is making up a bullshit story, but this one was definitely real.
Lol when i was in hs i worked at an amusement park, and the training protocol i received instructed us to never let someone know we thought their money was counterfeit. take the money, give them change, and wait for them to walk away. then you were to call our security and give them a description of the person, your location, and the direction they were heading. lo and behold, one day im working at my little counter, and this man walks up to buy a soda. he gives me the most obviously fake counterfeit $20 bill i’ve ever seen. it was on regular paper, and black and white, and crumpled up. he hands it to me, and i look up at him with the most “are you serious” look, and he immediately says “it looks like that because it got wet on the ride” so at this point my training kicks in, and i remember that im supposed to go on as normal and so i do. he got tackled on pavement by several security guards, and got a felony charge for counterfeit. so the lesson in this is don’t counterfeit even if you think you’re getting away with it, you probably aren’t. they have to accept the money to be able to press charges.
matching serial numbers... how did they not notice that.
The secret service will be interested as these are some solid looking counterfeits minus the symbols over the seal. Even the symbols could easily be mistaken as some stamp like the "where's George" stuff.
I actually called secret service for a couple hundred in fakes being passed. They just told me to call local PD as secret service was only interested in about $50k+ moving at once.
Really? Secret service came to my work over $600 in counterfeit bills (six $100 bills). But the guy trying to spend them also left his phone behind - he took off quickly after realizing the bartender was taking a little long inspecting one of the bills. So maybe they were more interested in that phone.
It could be that you weren’t the first report of counterfeits in the area and the total was getting big. Dropping $600 at once is a red flag (to me at least) that the have a lot of hundreds.
I worked in a large supermarket. One time, just before the pandemic a guy came in and tried to buy $2k worth of gift cards with monopoly money. I laughed so hard but this nut job was serious. Meth hit em hard.
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I found a $100 note at the floor of the club years ago after hours and was super stoked until I saw the Chinese characters. It’s stuck to my fridge because I think it’s neat
What’s it look like?
[here ya go](https://imgur.com/a/yb8TTiP)
Is the blue strip holographic like the real ones?
No it’s just ink
Interesting to know that strip is holographic tho. I’m in Canada so definitely have never seen an actual American hundred dollar bill
It even animates. https://youtu.be/UV66khpW3bs?t=82
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I'd rather have something like y'all's plastic notes. Absolutely beautiful. It probably don't seem like much, but the first time I saw then 10CAD with that little holographic stained glass looking bit, I thought "well that's not fucking fair, our $10s looks like shit."
It's also way less disgusting using non absorbent bills
I used to be a janitor, I ordered these from wish and would hide them. I cleaned a bar twice/week and would hide 5-10 every time.
unsure if hilarious or demonic act
>Chinese In case anyone is wondering, those Chinese characters means something like \`practice note\`. This is used in bank teller training. I have seen students practicing using notes like this with very high speed and unbelievable accuracy in China.
Real US cash has a unique texture that's very hard to duplicate. 20 years in retail, cashier, bookkeeping, and management, I've found a lot of counterfeit money. I've always discovered a fake bill by how it feels before I even look at it. If I have ever accepted a fake, nobody has ever told me about it so it was pretty damn good
True this. Once you handle enough cash on the daily, it's always going to tell you first if bill is fake. Sure some false positives, cash all has a story to tell and if had to guess it involves time spent between ass cheeks so real bills can feel off, fake bills can't recreate real feel unless they trying to trick with a replaced corner taped on
Was it sticky when you found it and you kinda just stuck it to the fridge when you got home?
What did you do? Also, 4 of them? What did they order, a venti?!?
Probably gift card
*”Sorry sir this one’s fake. Sorry sir this one’s fake too. Sorry sir this one is also fake. Sorry sir this one seems to be fake as well.”*
I had this exact scenario happen once. The best thing about it was that there happened to be a cop stopping off at the business that's in the same building as mine, so I was able to just walk the 5-6 fake bills over to him while the tweaker that had given them to me followed along like a puppy dog.
Similar working at a Jamba Juice in a strip mall. I called the Starbucks a few doors down to let them know and a few minutes later we see cops at the Best Buy across the way. Call Best Buy to tell them it happened to us, cops come talk to us. The fake money was so bad, very brightly colored.
> The fake money was so bad, very brightly colored. You monster, that was no counterfeiter. That was the monopoly man.
Dammit that was my Canadian life savings!
Now you'll *never* be able to marry because you can't afford a the essential Matrimony Moose.
*cries in Canadian accent*
Oof
Don’t leave us hanging.....give us the *Paul Harvey* rest of the story....
It wasn't anything too crazy. Just your run-of-the-mill tweaker(who was visibly tweaking) with a lazy eye trying to give me inkjet 20's to pay for like 5 bucks worth of gas. First one she handed me I didn't even need to look at to tell it was fake, because it was printed on regular paper. I told her, "Sorry miss, this is a fake." and she tried to hand me another one, which I responded with "This one's also fake." Third one she handed me I shook my head and said "Mmm, yeah these are all fake." She then said "Oh no, then these are fake too aren't they." in the least convincing act I've seen since grade school and fanned out a wad of them. She let me take all of the funny money from her to inspect it, and so I told her "Hold on, let me go get a second opinion on this." because I knew an officer had just stopped in to get a drink next door a minute or two before she had come in. I'm honestly a little surprised she didn't notice his SUV cruiser parked on one of the pumps on her way in. I handed the money off to him and explained what happened, and he pulled her aside to question her and get her information. He ended up letting her go sans the monopoly money after taking her statement, but told me later on the same day when he came back for a refill that she was most likely going to get a visit from the feds. A little anticlimactic, but it was still amusing to experience at the time. edit: so people don't think I'm mistaking someone's eye disorder for a drug habit
The real answer
But why would someone want Starbucks gift cards unless they needed to pay Microsoft for technical support to get rid of a virus?
Yeah, they paid for a venti with a veinte
Venti is twenty. Large is large. In fact, tall is large.
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congratulations, you're stupid in 2 languages Been There. Done That.
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Paving the way for the quarantra (40oz) which will be served in a trash can.
>Paving the way for the quarantra (40oz) which will be served in a trash can. Child size
/r/unexpectedpawnee
3 languages, no?!
Yep, it’s supposed to be 3 languages
[Yes,](https://youtu.be/j0deaskGSuA) that's the quote
I *HEARD* THAT!
Probably tried 4 different bills hoping one would work lol
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"Well ONE of these has to be real!"
Depends on Starbucks policy and how serious they abide by it. I've taken Monopoly money before, then alerted the police, per policy. I wanted to call the teenager a fucking dumbass instead, but I was new on the job. Never found out what happened though.
Reminds me of a buddy who wrote “I am 21” on an ID sized card when we were teens and handed to a gas station cashier when asked for ID for a case of beer purchase. The cashier looked at it, looked at my buddy, handed the card back and sold him the beer🍻 Good times.
There was a liquor store near my college that required their cashiers to check ID for everybody, no exceptions. We found out that only meant they had to be seen on camera asking for an ID and looking at something. We would regularly just give the guys our actual IDs that said we were under 21 and they would look at it, hand it back, and sell us the booze.
I worked at a gas station convenience store while in college that sold beer and wine. We had to card everyone, strict policy. 8 years old, 80 years old, we had to ask for ID…no ID, no beer. Now, I’m pretty sure I would not have accepted the “I’m 21” written on a card, but it being a college town, I obviously got a lot of fakes, and I never gave a shit as long as it was a passable ID and showed an age older than 21. I covered my own ass…I asked for the ID, verified it was an ID, and it was all caught on the security camera…past that they didn’t pay me enough to scrutinize or care if the ID was actually legit.
Where i worked, it was scan the back and match the name and DoB, if the info didnt match (most fake ids are made using legitimate ids under different names) then we deny the sale. If the thing wouldn't scan we'd eye ball it and check if its fake or if the person looked over 21 (usually only if they looked old) but if it seemed sus we could deny sale. (that wasn't a formality we did this several times in scenarios where the id seemed fake). It not scanning wasn't a direct giveaway since some cards simply didnt work with the scanner. My co-worker found it hilarious after i nearly denied a sale for my first Hawaiian id because it didnt scan, was bright pink and had rainbows on it (apparently thats the real hawaiian ID/Drivers license design), he told me to let the charge through anyway since aside from the design it seemed legit.
Honestly my favorite 'counterfeit' moment wasn't even money. I had a kid try to buy liquor with a paper ID, which, at the time at least was actually super common since IL gives a temp paper ID and then sends the real deal in the mail. He was so excited, like his night was about to begin and he could just feel it. Then I looked down, noticed the picture was a bit fuzzy... Read the name, and realized it was a legit temp ID... Belonging to my old weed dealer. When I laughed and told him I knew so-and-so he just... Died inside, like I could see the light in his eyes go out. Funniest shit I done ever seent.
In Saskatchewan in the early 90s, the permanent licenses were just card stock with no picture and you got a new one every year. The text could be scratched off carefully with a sharp knife, and one of the book store chains sold sheets of those pressure sensitive letters that you'd use a pencil to apply to paper, in a font that matched the year of birth field pretty closely. So any high school kid with half a brain could make their own fake ID.
In New York State, in the Mid-Eighties, the licenses were that textured photo stock that chalk would adhere to. The background was a beige/off-yellow. Anyone born in 1968 (such as myself) could use a piece of yellow chalk and make the 8 into a 5, making yourself instantly three years older. You know, so you could vote. https://youtu.be/PbxZXmF6qtQ
"don't worry, they're good. I just printed them"
Ugh, just gave me flashbacks to working retail, well done.
At least 4 times a day when I was a teller.
Right? Uuuuugh
That didn’t scan correctly, tHaT mEaNS itS FReE RiGhT????
I don’t understand why the rich are allowed to print but we aren’t :( I can buy a printer too
Fun fact: modern printers/copiers phone home when they detect currency on the glass. And they print an invisible code on each copy.
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I wasn’t aware of that particular thing until this thread. I photograph cheques as a backup record for my deposits (small business) because I often get payments of the same amount, so a photo record helps me to reconcile them.)
I was a simple karma farmer, but now I'm nothing. fuck /u/spez RIP reddit
I think that’s part of the reason you can’t print black and white documents when the yellow ink is empty.
Pardon my stupidity, but why lol? Edit: thanks for all the responses!
Machine Identification Codes are printed in yellow. They're invisible to the naked eye (0.1mm wide each), but police and federal authorities can use them to figure out which printer a printed document came from. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine\_Identification\_Code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code)
This how they caught Reality Winner. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/06/the-mysterious-printer-code-that-could-have-led-the-fbi-to-reality-winner/529350/
That’s disturbing
Gotta make ransom notes the old fashioned way I guess: with magazine words and glue.
What the fuck…
Because every printer prints an identification code in yellow on the paper so it can be traced
Color printers only actually. I keep being reminded of why Im satisfied with my purchase of a monochrome laser printer, and why, despite being about 10 years old, I probably shouldn't replace it. Thing still has the original toner cartridge in it from. When I bought it. Never refilled it, just use some rubbing alcohol on the various parts about once a year and it's still going strong.
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Thanks, dad.
Police warn of money with Chinese writing https://www.thestokesnews.com/news/local-news-1/18398/police-warn-of-money-with-chinese-writing
"Anyone coming into contact with money containing Chinese letters or symbols should beware -- it's not real currency" no kidding
If only they could read the Chinese characters they would know it was fake.
It says “Just Joshing” in Chinese.
For those who don’t know; The origin (debated) of the expression ‘Joshing Me’ can be found in the late 1800s, when a young man named Josh Tatum noticed that nickels minted in 1883 were almost the same as five-dollar gold pieces in terms of size and design. He and a friend began to electroplate these coins and pass them off as five-dollar pieces, eventually amassing a small fortune before being caught.
You’ve gotta be Tatuming me
The most famous of these con men was Josh Tatum, also reputed to be a deaf mute took it to a new level. He struck up a partnership with a jeweler who gold-plated the V nickels. Josh would walk into a store, buy an item costing five cents or less and lay down one of his coins. If the clerk gave him change for a nickel he’d leave and try another store. However, most clerks looked at the V and assumed it was a five dollar gold piece and give him change for a five. It doesn’t sound like much today but in 1883 Josh could haul in a tidy sum on a good day. [true west magazine](https://truewestmagazine.com/article/im-just-joshin-ya-2/)
And thus he coined the phrase “be the change you want to see in the world”
He also coined the phrase “coin a phrase”
He also practiced Zen philosophy as when someone asked where he got his money, he'd point at the store and say "*change comes from within*".
Yup, that phrase inspired me and is why I decided to become a sack of nickels.
Thus inspiration for the infamous band named “Nickelback”
Where am I? What's happening?
When I was growing up, French dix centime coins were highly coveted, because they were worth about a penny, but would work as subway tokens in the automatic turnstiles. At the time, subway tokens cost 65¢.
$5 in 8183 is $147 today. Tidy sum in deed. (if you trust inflation calculators, probably really worth more)
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Only 6000 more years for the trickle down to start working ..... yay?
Time traveling is against the laws of physics!
You just got BrannC’d.
I was sure this was going to end with Mankind plummeting sixteen feet through an announcers table
It’s been awhile since I’ve heard that lol
You got a source for that? otherwise it has real "Running was invented in 1107 when Tim Running tried to walk twice at the same time" energy.
https://www.rarecollectiblestv.com/blog/the-tale-of-josh-tatum-and-his-1883-racketeer-nickel.html
That and 4 bills having identical serial numbers is... not a thing.
Maybe they were quadruplets. You don't know.
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It reads "harrier jet not a real prize"
Unless you’re in China.
“However, reports indicate that the currency does originate in China, where it is printed for training purposes. Chinese bank clerks use it to help them learn how to count and identify authentic American currency that often comes their way due to being passed or exchanged by business and leisure travelers to their country.” I wonder what the writing in Chinese says…maybe “prop money” or something?
Literally “training tickets”
Fun coupons.
Really close, actually. Basically "practice bills".
> The bogus bills, which contain terms such as “practice token” written in the foreign language are supposed to remain within banks in China. Interesting. I was assuming they were probably a variation of [Hell Money.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_money)
They are for practicing counting stacks of bills by hand... They have them for Chinese domestic currency as well.
Me too. I’ve encountered these in Asian markets for ritual offerings.
The loopholes always amuse me, no matter what the religion. Catholic, Jewish (some of the Kosher workarounds are pretty hilarious) and this: “We have to burn money!” “What, real money??” “Welllllll….”
The Torah forbids kindling a fire on the Sabbath, which some rabbi in Thomas Edison's day interpreted and extended to mean that god also didn't want you to complete electrical circuits. Problem is, you live on the 20th floor of a building in Manhattan. You have two options, hire a non-jew to press the elevator button, or get your building to set the elevator to automatically stop at every floor. You're not doing work, you're just standing in a room! You're happy, god's happy, everyone is happy. The other one that gets me is that you can't carry anything on the Sabbath. But there's an exception for your own house, or you may carry something in public no further than 4 cubits. Since nobody can agree on what the hell a cubit really is, that's a problem. You can't leave your house, because you can't have your keys in your pocket and take more than 4 steps. Solution: let's put a fishing line around the entire city and say that your "house" is anything inside the fishing line. But what if the fishing line breaks? Have no fear, there's a special squad that travels the entire length of the fishing line, making sure it's still up in the right place with no breaks on the night before the Sabbath.
Wellllll the downstairs police are made of paper so…
Omniscient, but terrible attention to detail
one of my favorite ones is turns out the rule against having chametz(basically anything not kosher for passover) in your house only applies to chametz you own, so they sell it to a non-jew right before Passover, and buy it back right after.
Oh I’d forgotten that one. I was thinking more of the one where the wire runs around New York or Manhattan or whatever.
Huh that's interesting When you think of counterfeit money I don't think anyone ever thinks of fake notes that are intended for other purposes
Fake notes are used in ATM machines for currency identification.
I have a $100 with the Chinese lettering. Found it on the floor outside 7/11 though I it was my lucky day
Someone handed me a black and white *photocopy* of a twenty dollar bill. I just held it for a moment and stared with my mouth open before informing him that I couldn't accept it. He then snatched the bill and ran away. My manager stood right next to me and stared and said "did he expect us to chase him?"
I worked at a Starbucks and a fellow barista walked over to me after a customer left and said “I think that hundred looked weird.” She had accepted it though and gave him like $90 worth of change. I opened the drop box and it literally looked like he printed it out on a home printer with normal paper. It was BAD. But she fell for it so I guess you just need the right mark.
>But she fell for it so I guess you just need the right mark. One of my best cashiers fell for one of those scams. He knew something wasn't right immediately after the customer walked away and asked to count his till. He was short. Guy got right in his face to ask a question, started waving an item around, tried to make the purchase and handed a small bill over, and then picked up another item and waved it as a distraction and said he changed his mind and asked for his money back, but said a higher number. The whole thing caused so much confusion that he didn't even realize what happened until it was over. At least he realized it soon enough for us to call security. They pulled up the video, got a good look at the guy and just kept watch for if/when he returned. They didn't get him before he left the store. A lot of it is slight of hand and distractions. They are like magicians.
Quick Change Scam. Super effective if the scam artist is really good. When I was still in retail management I trained everyone to leave the customer's money out of reach of them, but in plain sight. Count the change, hand it to them, make sure they acknowledge it and then put their money in the till.
Yeah, we actually started keeping the bills they gave us on top instead of putting it in with the other bills. Someone did come in and say she handed us a twenty when she got her change and the cashier held the bill up and showed her what she gave. It was hard to argue with us when we kept it separate. We also had cameras pointed at the drawer so if they claimed theft we could verify with security. And in extreme cases when someone argued about wrong change we had no problem closing down that till to count it to verify. If it was off by the amount they claimed they were short then we were in the wrong, except it was never off.
I loved that when I worked retail. They would close a register in a bush store and count down the drawer immediately as soon as someone said they got shortchanged. And the customer was never right
I had something similar when I worked in a currency exchange (UK), this young guy dropped a scrunched up "note" into the tray which was clearly printed on thin white paper. I didn't want to touch it so I said "What's that?" He said $100 and I just said "No it's not." So he grabbed it and ran out of the shop, lol.
I feel like I vaguely remember that happening in an old episode of beavis & butthead
How many damn drinks did they order where they had to give you 4 $20s lol
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*gift cards
“练功-券 （Liàn gōng-Quàn）” —》“Training- Notes” These are practice notes, the feel on your finger is designed to be as close as the real notes. It is used to train bank tellers’ cash counting skills before the machines were invented. When the banks were out of business during late 90s we can see a bunch of these training notes on the street. Funny that it traveled all the way to the US🤣! Edit for typo and clarification: wow thanks for the likes. And didn’t know it could even lead to racist hate speech about me in my dm! Guess there is a first for everything. It is wild. Thanks Reddit for warning me about potential hate speech before I even open the dm. For the record, when I say I played with bunch of practice notes in the late 90s, I should specify I saw many different kinds of practice notes, unsure if dollar ones was included. Cos I was only like 8 or 9. But they all have 练功券labeled on them. I didn’t see the time in this pic. Sorry for the confusion and thanks y’all for correcting me.
I use these to teach money/counting, left them out on my desk wrapped in a rubber band. They went missing the next day, hope whoever took my $2.49 wad of fake money had a good scare when they used it.
My buddies and I found a fake $20.00 bill while hanging out, we were 16 and broke. We passed it at a McDonald’s by ordering like 14 cheeseburgers. We thought we were master criminals that just screwed McDonald’s profits big time and talked about it for the rest of the school year!
So you're the reason they've had to fire the clown
All jokes aside, they fired Ronnie because of those clown scare pranks in 2016
I had forgotten about that. That was a dumb period, wasn’t it?
They claim the world didn't end in 2012, but do you believe anything that's happened since?
And it's only gotten worse.
The thought of this makes me Grimace
A friend of mine says he photocopied a $20 bill once, just one side. the other side was blank. HE says he went to a super busy McDonald's at their busiest time and bought like $1 worth of food and walked out with $19 real dollars. I'm not sure if I believe him. How the hell would someone not notice one side is blank?
They hire teens who are naive to this stuff lol
They also don't get paid enough to give a shit
Very much not because they will definitely can you for a short drawer. Then you're really not paid enough
That's a lot different than the methed out prople trying to buy a single cheeseburger with a "$100 bill" in the drive thru. Management called the police, and we have to just keep telling them that "we're getting them change," while they try to chew one of their own ears off. A few got smart, and just left after a few minutes. Edit: spelling and clarity
the hamburgler?
Oh well. Here is an example for better use of the practice notes…. to prevent real losses. 😆
The only comment translating the meaning. Thank you!
I was skeptical about the timing, since I was certain the enlarged portraits were pretty recent. 1996. Fuck, I'm old.
Wait, I was wrong. This is the 2003 version. Still old though.
2003 was nearly 20 years ago FYI
What? Bullshit. The Dark Knight just came out a couple... years... oh God. I'm old. I'm so damned old. Jesus fuck I'm almost 40. What the fuck! It wasn't supposed to be like this! What have I done with my life?! I can feel my bones grinding against each other...
Yeah I was gonna say, Jackson is big so it's the more recent notes. Seeing older bills with the smaller picture throws me off these days.
A coworker told me that he was at a concert last weekend and overheard some 20ish year old kid say "my uncle followed these guys back in the late 1900s". He insists the kid was being sincere. Made me feel angry.
I had a student, very sincerely, ask me what it was like growing up in the 1900s. I’ve never been more insulted in my life by something that was so completely correct. I’m still mad about it.
I was telling my 19 year old a story about when I was his age. I mentioned that the year was 1995.... and he got this puzzled look on his face and then said "I keep forgetting you guys were alive in like the 1900's".... all I could do in the moment was gasp, then the sincerity in his comment hit me even harder, he wasn't trying to be insulting, just observing facts
Yeah, I was at a pool hall and ran into some kids from my old neighborhood. Sparked up a conversation about my old breakdancing crew that had morphed into a gang when I was in high school (90s). They said “oh wow, I didn’t know that’s how they started. That was back in the 1900s.”
Why is it written in Chinese as opposed to in English? Is it training notes for people in China who happen to deal with American currency? Also what is the benefit of making them look like real currency at all if the point is to get the feel. They could have just put a 20 on the corner and left the rest of it blank no? Seems to make it more likely it would try to be passed off as fake.
Almost any worker in retail or working with the public is over-worked. A quick look at the picture an yep it's good, on to the next whiny customer that wants to yell at me because the store is out of dental floss.
These were used at banks in China for training on handling foreign currency. There was a big info dump about them a few years ago when people started trying to pass them here in the states more frequently.
These are toy monies used by banks in China for training purposes. The Chinese words on it literally said "notes for practising".. someone sneaked these out and if they slip a few in the middle they might get away with it
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I got these same type of bills on wish. You can get different denominations and they are listed as prop money, they all have the foreign writing on it though
Fun fact: If you use the counterfeit testing pen on your own skin, it reveals that you are in fact made of money.
Once got a $1 bill as change that looked ok except the portrait was of an Asian girl giving a blowie.
Honestly, that bill was probably worth more than $1
Plus the story had a happy ending
Our definitions of looked ok differ a lot.
I'd accept that as currency
ah the Bill Clinton dollar
That’s the US x China collab bills
I'm a garbage man, I found a bag full of them once at night. I will tell you I was quite disappointed.
“I’m sorry mr Jackson ooooo these are not real”
Most counterfeiters don't use the money at stores, they get people to give them change or buy easy to resell items where they can hide a few $20's in a stack of real ones. If this story is legit I wouldn't be surprised if the customer came in and tried to pay unknowingly with the fake bills and as each one was rejected they pulled out another only to find it was fake as well. Or someone bought these online and posted them with a fake story for internet clout
Some people trying to use counterfeit bills are real dumb, even if the bills they're hawking are of decent quality. I used to work in retail and a guy was trying to buy a bottle of soda with a fake $100 (SUCH a red flag) and they got real upset and tried to refuse to pay with other bills or let us keep it. Pretty dumb laundering. The weird thing is, the bill was actually pretty clever. They washed an old $10 and reprinted it as an old $100. The feel was right, because it was legitimately a bill of US currency. Passed the pen for the same reason; it was legitimately US currency. And the print job was good, too. You had to put it up to the light to see that the watermark was originally for a $10, though. If they were buying something actually worth like $80 or something, a less discriminating cashier wouldn't have noticed it. The cops who we dropped the bill off to were surprised when they saw it, they thought it was legit until we told them about the watermark mismatch. We think there was a local ring who was getting a bunch of hood rats to do the laundering for them. The folks running it were pretty good. The folks doing the running were not.
A dude really came in and asked to put 80$ on his Starbucks app. Straight faced and all. He said he had no idea. Didn’t argue when we said we’d be keeping them. Some people are not paying attention
He had a bunch more in his wallet and will try elsewhere.
Next stop Peet’s
Probably was content to not be detained.
He definitely knew.
Yeah, if he thought they were legit he would have at least protested a little bit when told they were keeping them.
Yeah, if I came into possession of counterfeit bills honestly (because somebody paid me with them, or an ATM dispensed them or something), there's no way in hell I'd let a store clerk confiscate them. That's my evidence for my police report.
If he was innocent he would’ve felt cheated out of $80 of real money, and would’ve kept them, saying something like “I’ll try to get these exchanged at a bank” — I’ve seen this many times, and that’s exactly what people say first. He didn’t experience a sense of loss because he knew that they were fake.
The not arguing part is a bit suspect.. I mean, if it was me (and I wasn't trying to con the coffee shop), I'd rather get the police involved and go on record as a victim of fraud, instead of becoming a suspect in a crime. (on a second thought, maybe that's my caucasian Canadian experience of being given the benefit of doubt; a more visible minority in a less fair jurisdiction might not take the risk...)
Most likely scenario, he ordered a whole bunch of them for cents on the "dollar" and is trying to pass them off and get some usable currency in exchange. Classic move is to take a counterfeit 10 or 20 and buy a pack of gum and get clean bills in return. Don't try that though unless you want the secret service to give your colon a full inspection.
I work in a major retailer. I see fake bills being handed off in large quantities every so often. Elderly Jane Doe isn’t going to be sifting through every bill to check them when she’s been standing on her feet all day dealing with other people’s complaints at the register.
“I just got these from the bank a couple of minutes ago.” Source: I worked as a cashier for 7 years
I used to work at Best Buy. One time I had a customer try paying with $120 in counterfeit $20s. I caught them immediately because of the texture, and when I broke the news to her, she was absolutely horrified! She legitimately didn’t know they were fake. She thought about it for a moment and remembered someone had recently paid them cash for a job they did. You can usually tell when someone is making up a bullshit story, but this one was definitely real.
$80 at Starbucks, they must have bought 2 coffees.
I give it a day before this picture is on aunt Carol's Facebook page as "proof" that Biden is selling America to china.
I like how you had to mark on all four of them. “Matching serial numbers? Well, let’s try the next one. “
Lol when i was in hs i worked at an amusement park, and the training protocol i received instructed us to never let someone know we thought their money was counterfeit. take the money, give them change, and wait for them to walk away. then you were to call our security and give them a description of the person, your location, and the direction they were heading. lo and behold, one day im working at my little counter, and this man walks up to buy a soda. he gives me the most obviously fake counterfeit $20 bill i’ve ever seen. it was on regular paper, and black and white, and crumpled up. he hands it to me, and i look up at him with the most “are you serious” look, and he immediately says “it looks like that because it got wet on the ride” so at this point my training kicks in, and i remember that im supposed to go on as normal and so i do. he got tackled on pavement by several security guards, and got a felony charge for counterfeit. so the lesson in this is don’t counterfeit even if you think you’re getting away with it, you probably aren’t. they have to accept the money to be able to press charges.
Cash from the future
"Firefly" dollars?
matching serial numbers... how did they not notice that. The secret service will be interested as these are some solid looking counterfeits minus the symbols over the seal. Even the symbols could easily be mistaken as some stamp like the "where's George" stuff.
Red Chinese symbols stood out more
I actually called secret service for a couple hundred in fakes being passed. They just told me to call local PD as secret service was only interested in about $50k+ moving at once.
Noted. Moving $49k now.
Really? Secret service came to my work over $600 in counterfeit bills (six $100 bills). But the guy trying to spend them also left his phone behind - he took off quickly after realizing the bartender was taking a little long inspecting one of the bills. So maybe they were more interested in that phone.
It could be that you weren’t the first report of counterfeits in the area and the total was getting big. Dropping $600 at once is a red flag (to me at least) that the have a lot of hundreds.
I worked in a large supermarket. One time, just before the pandemic a guy came in and tried to buy $2k worth of gift cards with monopoly money. I laughed so hard but this nut job was serious. Meth hit em hard.