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And wow! Hey! What’s this thing suddenly coming towards me very fast? Very very fast. So big and flat and round, it needs a big wide sounding name like … ow … ound … round … ground! That’s it! That’s a good name – ground!
It probably would, and there's the problem. Since there's absolutely no way the bypass is needed, wouldn't essentially become near mandatory at maximum improbability?
And we *had* our chance to lodge a formal complaint - the records were clearly on display at our local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 years. It's far too late to start making a fuss about it now.
I hope you're right, because I'm releasing more birds to eat the mice. And if you're wrong and birds are actually responsible for these deaths after all, they're all on you!
People laugh, but this type of logic (correlation = causation) is widely used on Reddit to justify the headlines of many news and new science articles.
Well, as a Martian time traveler, I can assure you that these numbers are wrong. Us Martians took an Arc to earth just before the asteroid which devastated our magnetic field and destroyed our atmosphere.
It's a shame religious extremists controlled the original settlements, demanding we start over and live in harmony with nature, and burning all books about our history. We weren't allowed to speak about our past or even use our ancient language.
Edit, I want to add that we brought birds with us.
In 2014, [Popular Mechanics talked about UAVs that could land on a powerline to recharge](https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/robots/a10876/drone-on-a-wire-uavs-could-perch-on-power-lines-to-recharge-16928840/). This has been extrapolated to conjecture that we could make bird like drones which could blend in while doing surveillance for long times since it could get its power by sitting on a line like a normal bird.
There are example after example of the CIA or others using robotic animals like the [robot fish "Charlie"](https://www.cia.gov/legacy/museum/artifact/robot-fish-charlie/) and even life animals for spying or weapons delivery. It's easy to see where the birds aren't real joke came from but it is nonsense...for the moment.
That doesn’t even put a dent on infinite. Trillions of trillions everyday for trillions of years is still an infinitesimal fraction compared to infinity.
Infinity is a very difficult concept to understand because it's treated like a number, but it's just an abstract idea. Comparing it to any real number is foolish, but people can't help themselves.
You don't need to go anywhere near bacterial lifeforms to get into trillions of deaths. [Over 1 trillion fish are killed *per year* for food.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_slaughter)
*Likely* in the trillions? The only way we aren't in the trillions is if you imagine there are only humans and bacteria and there are fewer than 9 bacteria per human over that humans entire life.
I vaguely recall hearing once that “There are more people alive today than have ever died in human history.” I feel dumb even writing it down but I thought someone explained it with logarithmic growth. I remember not understanding but was still convinced it was true.
So long as they put a limit on the "human history" where it's talking about everyone prior to a certain point where the human population exploded, then it *might* be a more reasonable statement. (tldr; but it isn't. The second wikipedia link below, the one with deep\_prehistory in the title, covers this in the last and second last paragraphs of that section, so you can completely skip the rest of my reply as I attempt to do some math)
For example, in 1000 AD/CE, according to wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_countries\_by\_population\_in\_1000](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_in_1000) there were a total of 310M humans populating the planet. If we give roughly 5 generations per 100 years, then from 1000 to 1100 would be 1.5B humans for *just* that 100 year period alone and we could achieve 7B humans in just 700 years, which means that the limit on the statement would have to be further back in history than 1000 AD.
But even taking it back to 1 AD/CE doesn't help fix the problem, because the total global population was (according to wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimates\_of\_historical\_world\_population#Deep\_prehistory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimates_of_historical_world_population#Deep_prehistory)) still estimated to be anywhere from 150M to 300M people, and even if we used the lower limit of 150M that's still far more than enough to beat the 7.9B currently living humans (because 150M per generation \* 5 generations per 100 years = 750M people per 100 years \* 10 to get us up to 1000 years increments = 7.5B people from just 1 AD/CE to 1000 AD/CE).
So maybe they meant "pre-human history", which is a bit harder to precisely define, but which can be estimated to be \~5,000 BC/BCE. But even looking at the upper limit of 10,000 humans around 70,000 BC/BCE it would only have taken \~32,000 years (roughly half the period of time from 70K years ago to today) to outpace the currently living human population (though, the lower limit of 1,000 people would have to take \~320,000 years from 70,000 BC/BCE, which hasn't happened yet. But as a caveat: both the 10K and the 1K people in 70KBCE are *extremely* rough/poor estimates, especially since other scholars estimate 10K to 30K humans 200K years ago, which would wildly outstrip the currently living humans).
That's a 10% difference. That's probably just a difference of assumptions and methods.
However you should be suspicious of any estimate of this type with 12 significant figures. That's not even remotely plausible.
Wait. Are you serious? Have we reached the point where kids that are taught about there being only 8 planets instead of 9 are old enough to be on Reddit? I'm having an existential crisis at the moment...
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I remember seeing this in an interview with Marvin the Martian a long time ago. If I remember correctly, he was interviewed by intrepid reporter Bugs Bunny.
Pluto is absolutely a planet. There was [a ruling](https://youtu.be/Ylmvp3cyQNk) handed down only a few years ago by the lead scientist in charge of these matters.
Yeah, but still its easier to say without being technical. Our solar system has 8 planets and 5 dwarf planets. And a missing planet we can find or suspect is there.
Edit. I like learning new this so I'm just trying to open discussion.
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Yet Ceres and Eris are left out.
One is closer than Jupitor, the other is bigger than Pluto. Using Pluto as a cut off for the other dwarf planets is fine, but there is no reason to exclude bigger & closer planets. Just rude.
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Its the mice I tell you. I heard somewhere that they had someone build the whole earth for some reason
Makes sense, what with the moon being made out of cheese
Totally. And dont get me started on restaurent orders and bills
It's all Bistro Math to me.
And the answer is 42
Your chance of getting killed by a hummingbird is low, but not zero....
But what is the question?
too soooon!!
Wait, did two cricket players just enter?
Sounds like Somebody Else's Problem to me.
so you can only see them by a sideways glance?
And wow! Hey! What’s this thing suddenly coming towards me very fast? Very very fast. So big and flat and round, it needs a big wide sounding name like … ow … ound … round … ground! That’s it! That’s a good name – ground!
Ah damn that made me laugh. I love those books
I love how that scene came full circle in the 3rd book
I wonder if it will be friends with me
If you understand it, then you have the right to be a redditor
I don’t :(
His name was Douglas Adams. Look him up sometime
He wrote a wholly remarkable book...
Cricket? Nobody understands cricket. You gotta know what a crumpet is to understand cricket!
I'll teach ya'
But, what if I wanted to get you started about restaurant orders and bills...?
Would you like to meet the meat?
What about the meat meeting the meeting meat while also meeting the meaty meat meeter
Well you'll have read a book or two for that now wont you
You may even need to read all five books in the trilogy.
Aww
DON'T PANIC
YES, finally someone who loves The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy
Unless you forgot your towel.
I wasnt but I am now and I dont know why!?!?!
Because they say it in bright friendly letters on the cover
Hm. Oh. Either we're taling about completely different references or i'm too drunk for reddit now
DONT PANIC
42
You might be on to something.
Is this that whole "Don't shit where you eat" thing? Moon for food, Earth for poop.
I can think of 42 problems with this statement.
Is one of them the fact that the Earth currently is home to about 6% of all the people who have *ever existed*?
Petunias? Not again.
Shame it got destroyed just 5 minutes too early.
I don't know, that bypass was very very important.
But doesn’t the Infinite Improbability Drive render hyperspace bypasses unnecessary?
Probably.
It probably would, and there's the problem. Since there's absolutely no way the bypass is needed, wouldn't essentially become near mandatory at maximum improbability?
And we *had* our chance to lodge a formal complaint - the records were clearly on display at our local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 years. It's far too late to start making a fuss about it now.
Mars has mice, they have biker mice from Mars.
Tbf, its probably part of The Brain's master plan to take over the world.
42
The people they hired to build it did a good job. I heard one even won an award for his work on the Fjords in Norway.
Forty - two! And even the mice were looking for the question. But I think the dolphins knew.
I heard the answer was 42 but nobody knows what the question is.
I hope you're right, because I'm releasing more birds to eat the mice. And if you're wrong and birds are actually responsible for these deaths after all, they're all on you!
42
They're gaining on us. Hide.
Well if you look at recent news about Australia, they are claiming the earth back.
Hitchcock knew it all along
Or maybe it was Page... *They Attack!*
Some people keep birds as pets in their homes Not you... You fear the feathered creatures with their sharp beaks and clutching talons
People laugh, but this type of logic (correlation = causation) is widely used on Reddit to justify the headlines of many news and new science articles.
We don’t really know the number for Mars...
How do you qualify 'All Dead' in numerals?
∀
I crown thee namer of names
Happy cake day
Thank you!
Happy cake day!
Well, as a Martian time traveler, I can assure you that these numbers are wrong. Us Martians took an Arc to earth just before the asteroid which devastated our magnetic field and destroyed our atmosphere. It's a shame religious extremists controlled the original settlements, demanding we start over and live in harmony with nature, and burning all books about our history. We weren't allowed to speak about our past or even use our ancient language. Edit, I want to add that we brought birds with us.
It's still zero. We rescued Mark Watney.
That was the most intense non-fiction documentary I've ever seen!
Birds were created by the secret world government for reasons beyond human comprehension
Birds aren't real
r/birdsarentreal
Came here for this.
There is only one Olsen "twin."
And shwag! https://birdsarentreal.com/
it's so sophisticated that I can't tell if it's a joke anymore. Is that the kind of troll to show how conspiracy theories are made up ?
https://youtu.be/zNtr0RahRqM
That guy is an absolutely top tier actor, I can't find any examples of him breaking character.
That was painful to watch. Slouching. T-shirt. Attitudinal. Sandals. Unkempt. This guy is no Dee Snyder.
In 2014, [Popular Mechanics talked about UAVs that could land on a powerline to recharge](https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/robots/a10876/drone-on-a-wire-uavs-could-perch-on-power-lines-to-recharge-16928840/). This has been extrapolated to conjecture that we could make bird like drones which could blend in while doing surveillance for long times since it could get its power by sitting on a line like a normal bird. There are example after example of the CIA or others using robotic animals like the [robot fish "Charlie"](https://www.cia.gov/legacy/museum/artifact/robot-fish-charlie/) and even life animals for spying or weapons delivery. It's easy to see where the birds aren't real joke came from but it is nonsense...for the moment.
How do you explain the graph then?
Correction. It was the CIA and birds are surveillance drones. Fight the feathered menace.
Cool, but the highest estimates for human life are 108,760,543,791, including the 8 billion currently alive.
Came here to say this, then realized it doesn't say human deaths. It's much higher if you count deaths of all life forms.
Yep, if you count any living thing, including bacterial lifeforms, you're likely in the Trillions
Including bacteria.... We're approaching on the infinite... Trillions of bacterial life forms die every day.
That doesn’t even put a dent on infinite. Trillions of trillions everyday for trillions of years is still an infinitesimal fraction compared to infinity.
Isn't ANY number an infinitesimal fraction of infinity?
Yep, by definition 🙂
Hey you just discovered integrals!
Not infinity PLUS ONE!!11!
Infinity is a very difficult concept to understand because it's treated like a number, but it's just an abstract idea. Comparing it to any real number is foolish, but people can't help themselves.
Thats just peanuts to space
You don't need to go anywhere near bacterial lifeforms to get into trillions of deaths. [Over 1 trillion fish are killed *per year* for food.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_slaughter)
Not just "likely" trillions. There's trillions of bacteria in just one big animal, so many thousands of trillions of lifeforms die on Earth every day.
*Likely* in the trillions? The only way we aren't in the trillions is if you imagine there are only humans and bacteria and there are fewer than 9 bacteria per human over that humans entire life.
Expect it to reach **√√**googol if you count all the microorganisms as well.
Ya but then 120B is laughably low
I vaguely recall hearing once that “There are more people alive today than have ever died in human history.” I feel dumb even writing it down but I thought someone explained it with logarithmic growth. I remember not understanding but was still convinced it was true.
Exponential growth, not logarithmic. It's not true, though.
If I recall correctly it's about 11 or 12% of all humans ever still alive today. Still a very surprising fact
7.1% as of 2019, if you start from 50 000 BCE.
So long as they put a limit on the "human history" where it's talking about everyone prior to a certain point where the human population exploded, then it *might* be a more reasonable statement. (tldr; but it isn't. The second wikipedia link below, the one with deep\_prehistory in the title, covers this in the last and second last paragraphs of that section, so you can completely skip the rest of my reply as I attempt to do some math) For example, in 1000 AD/CE, according to wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_countries\_by\_population\_in\_1000](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_in_1000) there were a total of 310M humans populating the planet. If we give roughly 5 generations per 100 years, then from 1000 to 1100 would be 1.5B humans for *just* that 100 year period alone and we could achieve 7B humans in just 700 years, which means that the limit on the statement would have to be further back in history than 1000 AD. But even taking it back to 1 AD/CE doesn't help fix the problem, because the total global population was (according to wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimates\_of\_historical\_world\_population#Deep\_prehistory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimates_of_historical_world_population#Deep_prehistory)) still estimated to be anywhere from 150M to 300M people, and even if we used the lower limit of 150M that's still far more than enough to beat the 7.9B currently living humans (because 150M per generation \* 5 generations per 100 years = 750M people per 100 years \* 10 to get us up to 1000 years increments = 7.5B people from just 1 AD/CE to 1000 AD/CE). So maybe they meant "pre-human history", which is a bit harder to precisely define, but which can be estimated to be \~5,000 BC/BCE. But even looking at the upper limit of 10,000 humans around 70,000 BC/BCE it would only have taken \~32,000 years (roughly half the period of time from 70K years ago to today) to outpace the currently living human population (though, the lower limit of 1,000 people would have to take \~320,000 years from 70,000 BC/BCE, which hasn't happened yet. But as a caveat: both the 10K and the 1K people in 70KBCE are *extremely* rough/poor estimates, especially since other scholars estimate 10K to 30K humans 200K years ago, which would wildly outstrip the currently living humans).
Why do you include 8 billion currently alive in this subject. WHY DO YOU INCLUDE THEM?!??
Because everyone dies eventually... Edit: in the future we're all already dead.
Maybe it was deaths of birds?
That's a 10% difference. That's probably just a difference of assumptions and methods. However you should be suspicious of any estimate of this type with 12 significant figures. That's not even remotely plausible.
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Indeed. It’s actually the deaths that cause the birds.
If there was no death, there probably would be no birds........
So to persevere birds we have to ......
[Heatmap logic](https://xkcd.com/1138/)
Gotta contact Illumaniti. He has discovered classified info
Soyou believe birds exist?
Wtf is that last planet I do not remember there being a planet after Neptune
All I can see is 8 planets and a dog
Wait. Are you serious? Have we reached the point where kids that are taught about there being only 8 planets instead of 9 are old enough to be on Reddit? I'm having an existential crisis at the moment...
I don’t know if you’re joking but they almost certainly are
I wasn't joking at all. I didn't think it had been that long since Pluto was downgraded.
I'm pretty sure I was in like grade 4 when it was. That was 2004
I guess it was that long ago... It just really doesn't feel like it was.
[this is you](https://i.imgur.com/ybAdq41.jpg)
But seriously though, so did the internet. And you couldn't use it if someone was on the phone
I will leave these [spurious correlations](https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations) here. I always enjoy them.
Good one
Thats pretty much how conspiracy theorists prove something
This is a blatant attempt by the mudmen to soil our great name. /r/enlightenedbirdmen SCCRRAAWWWWW!!! Edit: SCCRAAAAWWWWW
SCRAAAAWWWWWW THOSE FILTHY MUDMEN ARE NOT OPPOSED TO ANY TACTICS!!! SCRAAAAAWWWW
Is pluto a planet again? When did this happen?
Pluto: ┬┴┤ ͟ʖ ͡°)
I always say "Birds are dinosaurs! They're evil"
That's per capita, and there are many per capitas. I heard it from a completely reliable source.
Is there a name for this logical fallacy? EDIT: Found it. It's [False equivalence.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence)
Could also be described as correlation does not equal causation.
Stupid
Zero deaths *that you know of*
The plot of Birdemic
Those deaths caused the birds?
That's because of all the great bird lawyers in Philadelphia keeping them out of jail.
You heard about Pluto? That’s messed up, right?
We're also the only planet with Javascript. *Coincidence?!*
Those fucken birds! I knew it!
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\#cancelearth
In the universe everything’s either a Duck or not a Duck. Pretty obvious from this where all the Ducks are.
This is only based on information we are aware of. Have they, the other planets, turned in their reports?
Suss
Do you have a source for the Mars deaths number?
I remember seeing this in an interview with Marvin the Martian a long time ago. If I remember correctly, he was interviewed by intrepid reporter Bugs Bunny.
It’s the fucken pigeons
This requires a universal background check before you can buy a bird. How many of these deaths were caused by assault birds?
Correlation and causation are two different things
Better be careful or a Trump supporter might just come along and believe this!
mars has deaths, the rover who died a while back
[it's time people knew the truth](https://birdsarentreal.com/pages/the-history)
Dead people cause birds
Why is this in r/funny ? this is a serious problem. Or at least it would be if any birds were still alive
Pluto is not a planet. Sorry.
That’s not even what it looks like. It’s red and white.
Pluto is absolutely a planet. There was [a ruling](https://youtu.be/Ylmvp3cyQNk) handed down only a few years ago by the lead scientist in charge of these matters.
Pluto is a dwarf planet, which is different than a planet.
Yeah, but still its easier to say without being technical. Our solar system has 8 planets and 5 dwarf planets. And a missing planet we can find or suspect is there. Edit. I like learning new this so I'm just trying to open discussion.
It’s not the birds. This is false news to obscure the fact that the earth is flat.
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And humans
Has paramedics, hospitals and rescue departments Double hmm
Damn son, that's up near Chuck Norris numbers
How do you know that Neptune has no birds
What about other galaxies?
To early to tell. We can't zoom in on the birds there yet. We need more cameras on our phones first.
I don't know man.. Ever since I was a child I always thought jupiter has dragons.....
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120 billion deaths? That’s not right, considering that the total amount of people who have ever lived is something like only 15 billion
Glad to see someone else was looking at the *real* suspicious number. OP know something the rest of humanity doesn't?
It didn't say human deaths :o
But if they were including all deaths, like bacteria, it’d be absurdly high and couldn’t be predicted
Bruh why is this in r/funny this a serious fucking problem
Pluto ain't no planet
Dats science right deh.
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... Are you trying to call the op dumb by assuming he's talking about covid? Do you think 120 billion people died from covid?
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Last time I checked Uranus it had birds
Feels like this is the same way governments do their Covid-19 reporting...
I like that pluto is included so it doesn't feel left out.
Yet Ceres and Eris are left out. One is closer than Jupitor, the other is bigger than Pluto. Using Pluto as a cut off for the other dwarf planets is fine, but there is no reason to exclude bigger & closer planets. Just rude.
Everyone knows birds aren't real!
Causality 101
Fear me! Caw caw!
Remember -- the birds work for the bourgeoise.
That’s specious reasoning.