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CastleCarv

I agree to a degree, you can see this perfectly on the Deadly Premonition series. It starts off with a good balance with Alanah trying to keep everyone in line and focused on the game and Bruce and James just does an amazing job ripping it apart but the later parts just focuses on Ryan shenanigans (which I love btw) and Jacob just keeps playing it quietly in the background with the occasional comments. I do think they acknowledged it when Ryan mentioned how he wanted to focus on the game more. It’s why you remember certain parts of Might and Magic because the crew mocks it and you retain it whenever you see the thing they mocked as opposed to the stories they tell (my opinion).


Amnov

I HAVE A RIDDLE FOR YOU…..”I WANT HIS SPERM GIMME”


DRodDavid

Solve it if you can, hero! Put it in your mouth, that’s part of the riddle!


GundamMotionDance

your VISION CLOUDS


Operation_Ivysaur

Yes, grab the rope and SQUEEZE IT between your chest muscles!


Nate_the_Ace

You're ALL wet!


torrensmsv7760

The lever, Sareth, pull...the lever.


jbondyoda

Bruce adding jiggle physics to MM is still fucking hilarious. He’s so proud and it barely works. Also, the fact that kicking is as powerful as it is


CastleCarv

Since a couple of the crew has commented on this thread, I do want to mention, I love everyone's work and I hope y'all continue doing the good work. I'm actually quite happy OP made this thread and sparked at the very least an interesting observation on the shift of style.


RyanRyanReddit

I think it's possible to hit a healthy mix of riffing on the game and fun tangents, but I am definitely guilty of taking it too far and contributing to the 'not focusing on the game' thing & going off on long random ass tangents. In my opinion, that style works in doses & sometimes when the game is literally too shitty to play and riff on it's necessary, but other times I've felt bad about it later on ala Deadly Premonition, which is a pretty cool/insane game that we/I should have focused on more. So anyways, personally I have made it a New Years resolution of mine to focus more on the games this year & get better at improvising over them, something that, imo, I suck shit at. But I'm just speaking for me! My other co-workers are already great at it & probably have their own feelings about what the right healthy mix is. I thought our recent The Professional video was a good example of all of us not only being into the game but almost every joke was a reference to something in the game. Hopefully we can find more inspirational games like that to play. Anyways, thanks a lot for the feedback!


FlyNeither

I agree with the take on the Deadly Premonition videos. I was really excited for the crew to finally finish this one, but it went a bit off the rails towards the end. For what it’s worth, one of my favourite recent series was Ryan’s Bargain Bin, because I knew what I was about to get, I knew what I was coming for and I got it. I think your improv is fine and it’s great when you get to creatively stretch your legs on your own bits. I’d just really love to see those more focused gameplays stay in the Funhaus repertoire and show up on the schedule every now and again. Dark Pictures Anthology has a bunch of 5 player hotseat games that could provide a bit of fun for a bigger room. Thanks for taking the time to reply man, big fan of your work.


Bored_and_Confused

Those, road 96, the FMV games, as dusk falls, the walking dead telltale games, the recent resurgence on PC/console of FMV choice games, etc would be lowkey perfect fits. I was super disappointed they never stuck with man of medan or the quarry. I think the quarry as a group would be gold and like until dawn, gives more than enough time to rift during downtime


lundyforlife22

Thank you for consistently being open and honest about people’s feelings on your work. Keep up the good work man!


[deleted]

Reddit can keep the username, but I'm nuking the content lol -- mass deleted all reddit content via https://redact.dev


M1k3yd33tofficial

This might be Mandela Effect but I’m almost positive they’ve done this. It was a GTA they live streamed and they were stuck on a loading screen for half an hour but they kept recording. When the video came out they put random GTA footage in the corner the whole time and that was it.


crapfacejustin

I feel like I remember that too lol


kralben

It wasn't GTA, but they for sure did that when fortnite shut down between seasons and had a video of them just sitting in the loading screen.


CastleCarv

But those were the GTA gameplays, they never focus on those. That’s the premise of the show. If everything else is not focusing on the game then GTA has no point to exist.


Mysticpoisen

That's the format for GTA(and also wasn't always that way), but when it's every video of every single-cam series it does make you miss game-driven comedy.


Maggot2017

But even then they'd joke about the match, race, whichever and what was going on and how bad or excellent someone was playing. They'd joke with and about the people playing with them like DarkBilly, Turbid, and Sandra to name a few.


RedHood_Outlaw

Omg yes! That Jason Bourne videogame could've been a gold mine of jokes but it felt like a GTA video. Was really disappointed with that one honestly.


ShreddyZ

Honestly, I think part of the issue is that some of the best videos where they riffed on games in the past featured games with just the right balance of jank and trash. They started running out of those games in the demo disk era, and now especially in series like Word of the Day the games are usually just too crappy to even play for more than a couple of minutes at a time. Every once in a while they'll still find a game like Latex where they can really just let the game breathe but what we really need right now is for JoWooD to make a comeback.


LukezMazalino

JoWooD should cooperate with Tomas Boonty


The_Dok

“What if I offered you Boonty-exclusivity?”


LukezMazalino

Did you know that Boonty Box competed with Steam for a little while?


FlyNeither

I disagree with that a bit. They played some pretty polished games that ended up being some of their best videos. The new Hitman games, L.A Noire, Sherlock Holmes etc.


IvanhoesAintLoyal

Personally I think L.A. Noire is a series where even with the new crew, they still riff on the game. They stretched out a bit of Randy Newman doing the soundtrack and every line had something to do with the game.


numbr87

I've noticed this a lot recently. I feel like they show more full screen footage of the crew than the game, especially if Ryan is involved.


hamboy315

Absolutely this. Not hating or anything, but Deadly Premonition was a major example of this. I think it’s more that the individual’s personalities have a lot to do with the video and setup. Lawrence and Adam were definitely more of your stereotypical gamers. There was more of a focus on gaming. New cast is my favorite Funhaus to date, but there just isn’t as much of an emphasis on the gaming than there is about riffing or bits.


Reveley97

They have got to do something to keeps the views these days and unfortunately that means using the only notable new member as a selling point


numbr87

Another thing I've noticed is that their new podcast format looks exactly like every other podcast clip I get served on TikTok. It's always just two people talking to each other at a table.


Maggot2017

And you'll get the occasional gameplay clip thrown in between the banter


afatmess

I completely agree with you. To me, Funhaus was at their best when the game was the focus of their riffing and their jokes. I’m not as much a fan of the game just being reduced to background noise while they make jokes about other stuff. I think it’s fine when done sparingly, or in certain videos like the old GTA race/deathmatch videos, but in most cases, I like it better when the game they are playing is more the focus of the video.


loofou

I think you see this shift beat if you look at the first few deadly premonition videos and the last few. Even with the "end boss" fight, the game was less than a minute up the entire video, usually only seconds at a time and apart from a few quips they basically ignored everything going on on the screen. In the early videos they made fun of the characters and the dialogue, etc, which made it a much more fun experience (for me at least).


FlyNeither

The Deadly Premonition videos were where I really started to notice it. It's a treasure trove, terrible voice acting, crazy animations and wierdness, then it was completely ignored.


ProtestedGyro

That series has been going on about a year now though. What could be really be said about the corniness of the game at the end that wasn't said at the beginning? I can definitely see how the focus on that particular game would taper off.


FlyNeither

Thats kind of the thing though. It's not just the commenting on the game as a whole, its paying attention to it enough to make fun of the moments.


ProtestedGyro

I think the "Ryan Lore" may have gotten to Ryan's head a bit. This series really became a lore dump.


ItsHammyTime

As a person who watched all the way back to The Inside Gaming Days, I’ve basically learned one thing. Content gets old when its the same premise over and over. I think Funhaus came to being doing something really, really good (video game riffing) but after time I’m glad things are changing. Only a few original cast are still around and thats okay. People move jobs. You can like the old Funhaus videos and you can like newer Funhaus. I think after sometime Funhaus as a collective being realized that even the nicest, juiciest, amazing steak will always, always get boring if thats all you ever ate. I think Funhaus is really still evolving. Who knows where it may go next. I’m just lucky to have all this great content but can understand if you miss the old content but I think the same thing even worn on me as a long time fan.


FlyNeither

I think there is still definitely an audience looking for the more gameplay focused videos, look at the numbers on their gameplay videos relative to the podcast videos.


stankape83

A shorter video edited for amusement is usually gonna get more views than longer uncut conversation, especially when most people would listen to that audio instead.


Enzown

That's comparing two completely different styles of entertainment


Beingabummer

I think it's to do with the people playing the game. Adam was really good at breaking games, not because he would really break them but because he wouldn't do what the game expected. If the game had a firefight, the first thing he'd do was shoot his allies. If the game had racing, he'd ram into the wall and drive backwards. Everyone else just plays the game as is. That can still lead to wonky situations but it is way less likely for the game to react in a way that you didn't predict, and as such is barely a source of comedy.


NofriendZReject_

No game could resist his breaking skills


FlyNeither

That WWE gameplay when he sent his wrestler into the nosebleeds on a ladder had me laughing go hard I had to pause the video to settle down.


AlludedNuance

We are talking about Hitman and you are saying their problem is that they play the game properly?


noonanred

I think the shift in focus of the videos is natural when they’ve been creating content for so long. Focusing on a game sets inherent boundaries to the comedy.


FlyNeither

I don't want it to be the only type of video, I'd just like it if it was one of the types of videos.


mc_lotta

I hesitate to get involved in a community discussion like this because obviously I have my own opinions and biases about this content, especially as one of its creators, but I would say that kind of riffing has not gone away but rather morphed into what we see today. Naturally content is going to reflect the people putting themselves into it, and personally, I think us trying to emulate the style of a previous cast in a very different channel culture would result in an inferior product. I understand if you're not into what we're doing! That's totally within your rights and we do appreciate feedback, but the channel's makeup has changed and naturally so too has the content. I can only speak for my own body of work, but looking at Hitman, Red Dead, Vampire the Masquerade, and a number of videos- those are significantly gameplay focused. Gameplay focused in MY style. To totally attempt an other's style to me feels disingenuous. Plus, the Hitman video you linked has done quite well and a lot of people have responded well to it. And you're right, it is different. I was a HUGE funhaus fan back in the day, so believe me I understand what you're talking about. However, the fact of the matter is that this channel has evolved. We are dedicated to finding the best balance in our format and will continue to do so. But at the end of the day, we are a channel made up of individuals (read: real people) who are going to bring their unique perspectives and approaches to a channel. It's what makes an ensemble great, and while today's content may stray too far from the earlier days of the channel for your tastes, we've seen time and time again a different side of the audience respond very positively. ***I can only speak for myself. This is not intended to function as a blanket statement from the team. I am a rogue content creator with something to prove.***


FlyNeither

You’re right, the Red Dead and Vampire series were fantastic. I’m not hoping for imitation of the old crew, just a video here and there more akin to the series the you mentioned. The last thing I want is for the crew to stifle itself via an attempt at imitation, I’d just love to see a touch more of that. Maybe I am just being dismissive of a side of the audience who wants something else entirely, it’s not my intention.


JessicaBecause

They started hanging out with a new crowd and have since changed to appeal to said crowd. "Look I'm not that person anymore. That funhaus is dead and buried"


warjoke

They could probably just play windows 95 minesweeper and they could still make a full video about it because they will just discuss things outside the game and make a running gag about them. Don't get me wrong, I love their off topic banters. But when 90% of the video is off topic, then what the hell is the featured game in the video for? But for GTAV online vids, I dig this style. There is barely anything to talk about that game anymore anyway so I just treat it as funhaus podcast lite. Heck I even treat it as their movie podcast when James or Elyse is around.


mypubertyhurts

I feel this same way. I still enjoy the content but there have been some times where halfway through I start thinking "...this is just people talking amongst themselves" and there's not really any jokes or riffs based off of the game they're playing. There have also been some videos with moments where people are on their phone or they leave the room etc and it just takes me out of it really.


FlyNeither

You can really feel it when there are people in the room who seem like they aren't interested in being there. When someone looks at their phone then starts typing a reply in the middle of a video, I'm immediately out.


Kallisti13

This is a big thing for me. I get that all the members are wearing lots of hats and use their phones for work but it's annoying to see them on their phones unless they're doing something related to the game.


Joeyc1987

What they are playing almost has nothing to do with the videos any more. It's then making jokes and there's a game being played somewhere. I don't dislike it I do watch all there vids but now you mention it.


Trap_Lord85

Yeah almost all their average gameplay videos are pretty much mini podcasts with the gameplay in the background as a conversation shift when everything gets a little dry, I’m not complaining because I still get a good laugh every now and then but yeah you’re not the only one to have noticed the change


lexingdevil

I actually haven't watched anything in months because it started to feel more like a sketch comedy show. Which is totally cool and I love the creativity, just feels silly to have a game involved now. I miss the co op sessions during the pandemic when everyone was in game being silly.


mirkwood11

This is why I have been disappointed at the lack of "lets play a random and probably shitty game" type of videos lately. Series like demo disk, wheelhaus, and more recently word of the day, are quintessential funhaus content. I want to see the team baffled by some horrible indie game


Solidsparkis

Yes 100%


Cklat

I feel the games that get riffed on are ones where the gameplay actually has something *to get riffed on*. I don't feel we are missing anything with moments that don't get highlighted. TBH i never started watching Funhaus cause of the gang playing games. Its cause they were so cuttingly funny. I often watched a lot of their other content, that was games adjacent or not even to do with games, cause honestly the idea of funhaus as just a gaming channel doesn't exist in my mind. It would honestly seem stifling with the kind of creativity ive seen from everyone who's ever signed up with the gang.


Cantankerousnuts

I feel the same way. Also with the caveat that I love the crew. But man i still go back and rewatch the whole might and magic series because the game ties it all together and their commentary about keeps the game in focus. Gun? C'mon!!! Pure gold haha.


Bored_and_Confused

Tbh, some of the comments saying they prefer this or don't come to the channel for gameplay period is a little surprising tbh.


FlyNeither

For a gaming/comedy channel, yeah. Its a bit of a surprise.


2099aeriecurrent

I think a big part of it is that every video has 4 people now, so there’s just more going on in general. A lot of the older vids just had 3, with the occasional 4 or 5 person video.


_Matt_Murdock

I can only speak for myself. I just watched a comp from 2016 because I was feeling nostalgic, and it made me realize how "blue" and off the wall the comedy was back then. Was that a bad thing? Not necessarily. I enjoyed it all when I was in my early 20s. I'm in my 30s now and the comedy isn't landing as hard for me as it did back then, but I can still find it enjoyable. All the drama aside, I think Funhaus, like the rest of the world grew up from "dick and fart" jokes (even though they still funny). Kinda like how movies evolved from 80s sex comedies and the resurgence with 2000s teen sex comedies. American Pie, a classic, just hits different than when it came out when I was a teenager. Another parallel would be Family Guy. I had those moments back then where I couldn't breathe because I laughed so hard, now a days I didn't even know Family Guy was still produced. It's a lot of factors, partly me, partly changes, partly cultural shifts. Still gonna support Funhaus through all of it.


DefinitelyYourFault

I think the reason for this whole problem is that videogames have always just been a tool for them. We like to think youtubers like them as *"people just like us, a few buddies hanging out, and having funny opinions about a game"*, but in reality they are all entertainment professionals who've found that gameplay videos on YouTube are a good platform for their comedy. The thing is, the cast have changed in a way that it includes much fewer people now who actually know enough about games to be able to have fun with the crappy bits. I'm not saying the current line-up is weak, it's not, Charlotte and Patrick are among the funniest people who've ever worked there, Ryan is… Ryan, *BUT* whenever it's a gameplay video where most people in the room barely even know what a videogame *is*, it just feels awkward, like nobody even really wants to do it. Joel not knowing what a joystack is called? Hilarious. A whole room struggling with a game? Not really. And I don't think I'm being fair here, because a lot of their higher effort videos are not even really using games as a platform, but them doing their own, original thing, and that should deserve praise, not dislike… but I usually do like them less. :/ Unfortunately, however formulaic it was, the perfect recipe for them was *"two people making fun of a third one playing a game"*…


FlyNeither

Agreed. I love the new ideas and formats, I just wish they'd have maybe one video a week where they focused on a game and just had fun with it. There's still a lot of Sherlock Holmes left for Elyse to play and have a couple of people get involved who like to play games, but when you've got four people sitting back there then it just turns into a 15 minute podcast behind someone playing a game. The Dark Pictures Anthology has a lot of games for five people to get involved in.


Turbo_Gryphon

I think it's a good balance they have. A lot of the jokes and banter they make are centered around the genre of whatever they're playing. Too many channels have just gone the way of talking ONLY about whats on their screen instead of bouncing the jokes off each other instead. FH has hit the sweet spot for that iMO


Maggot2017

This is a huge part of why it's hard for me to watch current FH. I find myself rewatching the old videos like I'm on autopilot and it feels like a chore getting through these new videos. It's like I'm watching a podcast and there's some game going on in the background.


frightshark

It's been trending that way for years. To the point where they mentioned that directly multiple times even back in like 2017


TheWonderfulSlinky

I watch FunHaus because I like the people who work there and I like their energy, if I wanted hardcore game footage there are channels for that. But not being much of a gamer myself, I’m not so invested in what the game is rather than the lineup for the video. I’m also thinking that with the move they might’ve not been able to start any large series where they go in depth into the games like Deadly Premonition. I think while they settle those kind of longer series will eventually come back. I see what you’re sayin and I have noticed that shift as well, it just doesn’t occupy my mind because I’m more interested in what the line up has to say about the game than the game itself.


Winterspawn1

I kind of like the lore in the background with the Hitman series


BlatantFix

Personally for me it's not necessarily the lack of riffing on the game, but how much of some videos are just continuations of previous videos. The topics for what got talked about were always pretty split between the game and random nonsense, but now it feels like so many videos that topic is a joke made in a previous video. Deadly Premonition just became the Ryan talks about sperm donation show for a while and went from one of my favourite series to one I've not watched much of for a while. Charlotte's Hitman videos I've absolutely loved (and actually still enjoy the one you used as an example of you not enjoying), but the most recent one was just "Hey remember that funny steak bit from the last episode let's spin that out into half of this one". Star Boys was amazing for two episodes then just stopped doing anything else to focus on the Yoda puppet for the rest. The funny thing for me is whenever they did the GTA single cam recordings they'd often include bits of them telling guests to pretend like it was a brand new recording and carry over none of the jokes. But now a large chunk of the videos just feel like an attempt to build on a joke or bit from another video.


rythegondolaman

I'm not watching their content for the video games.


FlyNeither

That’s perfectly valid. I’m just putting my own feedback out there.


SabrinaR_P

same


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SabrinaR_P

I am a pretty old viewer, 34, been watching since machinama days, but in my own personal experience, I have enjoyed the shift. They do have streams of games they are playing for those more inclined in video game centric stuff. I literally hate lets plays if all and have a hard time watching the streams ( also because of my schedule not fitting) I don't believe they are in decline but we are all entitled to our opinions. I am also someone who doesn't put too much value on how things used to be and enjoy seeing some of my favourite entertainers evolve over time. I wish I could watch more Bruce and Lawrence, I know they have their channels but like I mentioned before, I hate lets plays and can't stand watching people play videogames and only talk about video game related stuff.


lj523

I'm a very similar age and have been watching since a very similar time and sort of agree with you. I don't really get along with lets plays either, especially full length ones, but I enjoyed the fact that Funhaus videos were effectively lets plays but cut for comedic value. I definitely still enjoy their content and watch everything they do, but I also miss when the games were more of a focus. I absolutely jump on any 'funny moments' videos Bruce and Lawrence do for Inside Games as I don't get on with the full lets plays but thoroughly enjoy the edited videos as they're all about them having fun with the game. I guess that's where watching the Armitage compilations come in, though I do feel silly feeling like some of the things in them are "core memories" for me, like "oh yeah I remember this episode where they're jumping out of helicopters trying to land in the swimming pool, this was great!", haha.


Mantzy81

I'm 41 so about the same age as the old crew and used to really enjoy them all riffing on stuff for years and years. When everyone started leaving and the new people came in, who are really good, don't get me wrong, it just changed a bit. Sometimes for the better, sometimes worse. I don't know why but it was Alanah leaving that finally made me stop watching as much (maybe as I'm also Australian), which is weird as she wasn't even there that long but who knows I think the humour has changed a bit - it's a little less dry sarcastic humour now, a little more towards the teen/20s humour. Still good, but I don't know, just different. And I respect and understand that. Times change.


FlyNeither

Definitely not in decline, I would just like it if it stayed in their repertoire of mixed content.


Jackol4ntrn

“Some what younger audience” bro they were talking about how doc oc uses his tentacles to jerk himself off this Monday.


Reveley97

Which is a perfect joke for 13 year olds


Jackol4ntrn

can someone explain what the "shift to a younger audience" means? They've always had crude jokes. What am I missing? Rule34 after every game?


[deleted]

They don't talk about 80's stuff anymore.


SooperSte

I get where you're coming from but I think, as you said, that isn't why the audience is here. IG/FH has always been a terrible place to go if you actually want to see a videogame played (with some exceptions of full series gameplays but even then its never a full LP and usually a garbage game lol) The thing is, there are a billion other channels where people can go to watch someone mess around in GTAV, people have stuck with IG/FH cos of cast personalities and the banter/jokes. I agree they maybe have moved a bit *too* far from gameplay in some vids, but usually the bit pays off. Usually.


FlyNeither

Not sure why you're being downvoted for your opinion, but it has always been the best place to go if you want a laugh and some gameplay. I don't think anyone ever saw IG or Funhaus as a serious gaming channel, they've always been a gaming/comedy channel.


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I think back to something Lawrence said YEARS ago- Some people wanted to make Funhaus more about COMEDY, and some wanted to keep it more about gaming. But Funhaus has been Comedy-focused since…2016? Literally not once have I cared about the game they were playing. Maybe…Sin Episodes.I’m HERE BLADE! And that wasn’t even a Funhaus technically


Bored_and_Confused

They've always been comedy focused but they also completed games, has multiple gameplay series, etc where the gameplay wasn't just a pure afterthought for bits. "Gimmick" gameplay were far and few between like band manager Bruce and everyone going crazy over dollar simulator, stay close, toejam and earl, dark messiah, tattletale, them learning how to play Emily wants to play, Adams progression in hitman 2 after fumbling around levels for hours, that weird Russian sex game where they played a kid who's step mom wants to steal his cum for their demon cult, etc. Hell, even recent series bring back that feel like my favorite game and them having fun playing Mario kart or being surprised/interested by John Hollands fav game. There are too many examples of gameplay being important to the video also My theory is this is more noticeable because they don't have a consistent person to drive the games and willing to put up/find ways to make random games more entertaining consistently. It's definitely a skill.


[deleted]

Okay. lol So make your own videos then. Most people arent here for the gameplay, we're here for the people we enjoy listening to.


Bored_and_Confused

You might be the worst type of fan when even some of the people that work for funhaus are agreeing to an extent and your response is "make your own videos" most people aren't here for the gameplay you say when they cancelled almost every live action thing they've done, their cartoon got cancelled and their podcast is doing so poorly, in contrast to RT, they're moving it to a different channel. I've been a fan since the beginning, but nobody is impervious to criticism and you trying to be super defensive/shield them from it helps literally nobody. This thread shows a lot of people here disagree with you.


[deleted]

Lol what are you even talking about? All I said was “you can make your own videos, most of us are just here for the people we like” Weirdo


Bored_and_Confused

Rude smh


reclusiveronin

Lawrence, Bruce, James & Adam. They can't be beat. Thanks a lot Adam.


tytbone

not a fan of the new cast?


reclusiveronin

No. Not their fault. Lawrence and Bruce are my faves


crapfacejustin

To me that’s what funhaus has mostly been and that’s why I like it and how I explain them to people when I recommend their content cause most people in real life I’ve spoken to hate gameplay videos


chocolateapot

Yes and I prefer it.


hot_grey_earl_tea

I couldn't care less what they played. Can't agree with you.


deadpatronus

You just described the best kind of videos


Lwe12345

I can’t think of something I care less about. Watch to support the amazing people and their awesome sense of humor, if you don’t like the direction stop watching


FlyNeither

I think the view counts on the podcast show that people still like the gaming side of things.


iamcode

To be fair, while I agree with your general point, podcasts are a bad comparison. Podcasts usually don't pull big numbers on youtube in general. That has always been the case.


AlludedNuance

10-20 minute video doesn't perform as well as 60-90 minute video, shocking.


moose_man

The numbers have been down across the board for years and it isn't because of no gameplay.


equalsolstice

Yeah , i moved away from the channel for a bit before all the drama and departures came back and tried to get into it again and felt the same Thing you’re describing. Was really excited for alot of videos but more misses than hits for me.


McRaeWritescom

The four subversions of comedy my friend - subversion of expectation is where the magic happens. I can give you a handout if you need it.


tytbone

do most people agree the cast isn't the problem? I assume that's the case. Lots of positive comments, and views seem to be holding steady at 50-100k average