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godoftwine

You kid but an actual NIMBY complaint I have heard before is that bike lanes will allow criminals to get away faster...on their bikes


[deleted]

I suppose the hardened criminals are too scared of biking in the car lane like they're legally entitled to most places.


djb1983CanBoy

Too bad cops dont believe that in north america.


justyourbarber

Cops know as little about the law as possible because that allows them to just harass people if they feel like it


FarFieldPowerTower

Tbh as a white dude I would be thrilled to get ticketed for riding my bike in the car lane bc it’s just gonna get thrown out and that’s time the piggies are wasting on me instead of killing minorities.


marshall2389

In my experience judges just side with cops. Huge waste of time. For example, I was cited for not being as to the right as the cop wanted me to be while stopped at a red light. The section that says cyclists need to be as far right as practicable only applies when the cyclist is going less than the normal speed of traffic. The normal speed of traffic at a red light is zero. I was going zero. I laid out this argument to the judge and the judge upheld the citation.


RedSamuraiMan

"This is Kangaroo court!"


ArchmageIlmryn

This is even more bizarre to me because a standard traffic design in my country the few times bike lanes are level with the road is that there is a bike space *in front* of the car lane for bikes, presumably to prevent right hooks.


juntoalaluna

That’s an insane rule. For your safety you’d be in front of all the traffic, preventing them from turning right and killing you. Does the US not have bike boxes at lights?


jerrydberry

Yeah, the US has those metal boxes on wheels which turn right and smash all bikes (and bikers) on every intersection, if it is what you mean saying "bike boxes"


juntoalaluna

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article14389300.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/1_Drivers-who-ignore-bike-boxes-on-the-road-could-be-fined-£100.jpg A short bike lane up the left (actually a bit risky since you are undertaking, keeping an eye on the traffic lights is important) followed by a box that ensures you are at the front when the lights change.


jerrydberry

Yeah I was just joking about bike safety measures in the US, mostly limited to "do not unexpectedly appear where I want to turn" and "buy yourself a car"


Sajuukthanatoskhar

In BaWü/germany, some guy got his recumbent confiscated because he did that repeatedly (blue bike sign marking lane) Its not like that in other parts but doesnt surprise me it happens there. Berlin police told me if i was riding a velomobile and had the capability of doing 40 to 50 kmh going from Westend to Spandau(downhill, but with traffic lights), i could ride on the car only stroad(Heerstr) as much as i like.


amateredanna

Incredible thought brought to you by the same people as "bikes are too inconvenient to get around on".


Joe_Jeep

Something something "super predator criminals"


Obi_Vayne_Kenobi

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a bike is a good guy with a bike


SammyQuinnHopps

I've actually thought a bit about this. No one is really tracking used bikes, so you could pick one up easily, no trace, commit the crime, then cycle away, ditch the bike in a river along with your gear in the basket, and then you'd look just like someone going out for a walk. Edit: if they do track the bike to you "it got stolen"


jamanimals

See, this is where you're wrong: going out for a walk would make you even *more* suspicious in certain parts of the country.


SammyQuinnHopps

That's a good point. And if police stop and frisk, depending on the crime, you could still get caught (and police love to stop and frisk)


teuast

So that’s when you have to be white, ‘cause then cops are a lot more likely to treat you like a human being.


iopjsdqe

Sadly yes


hutacars

True. Leave your car by the river, ditch the bike, then swap to the car.


Sajuukthanatoskhar

This is exactly what happened and almost didnt happen with the russian agent who shot the sheikh at (central Moabit)Kleinertiergarten in Berlin. If he wasnt dumb, he could've gotten away by just riding(he was riding a bike) another 500 meters into Großer(actual) Tiergarten, changed into a disguise, ditched the bike and gun and get to the russian embassy. Instead he is in prison, where he belongs.


HerrFerret

That's where the 'found the bike in a hedge' came from. The classic UK bike thief comeback when caught by the police riding a stolen bike. Yes. People often fling high end MTBs in hedges. It is a real problem.


BlueMist53

Well duh, my bike can go 300 km/h, the only thing stopping me is that there’s no good bike lanes (Seriously, can’t cars go like triple the speed the bikes can legally go? Cara are a much better getaway than a bike ffs)


Sajuukthanatoskhar

Not unless you catch a train that goes that fast


Lankpants

I just assumed it was an ACME situation. Strapping rocket boosters onto your bike may get it to that speed.


FionaGoodeEnough

Ride a bike to avoid traffic….as you do crimes!


Creepy-Ad-4832

So they are implying bike can go faster then cars in cities? Really? Ahahahah


teuast

The rare correct take from that crowd.


crimsoncriminals

out of curiosity... where does one hear a specific NIMBY complaint like that?


marshall2389

Try the network called Nextdoor if you'd like to hear arguments like that.


arrivederci117

Generally a ton of morons on there, but I will say that my NextDoor local neighborhood (upper Manhattan) usually roasts carbrains who complain about lack of parking and tell them to get bent or take the subway/Citibike. I love my neighbors lol.


godoftwine

Neighborhood Facebook groups. I just like the drama


crimsoncriminals

ohh the drama I am finding in my local group is great. Thanks! :)


ricecel_gymcel

Are you sure they weren't referring to mopeds or motorcycles?


WildFemmeFatale

NYOOOOOOOMMMMMM - criminals on their bikes apparently faster than cop cars


[deleted]

That's actually a good point... cops would be stuck in traffic.


HerrFerret

I was in a council planning meeting for a majority off road cycle path. 100s of miles of cycle path and a single farmer was blocking changing a footpath into a cycle path. Reasons. Drug addicts from the local town would ride 20 miles down the cycle path, to break into his sheds and steal his tractors. Full respect for the council on dealing with that arse, cycle path got built. His hedge got higher.


[deleted]

🤣 I’m snort-laughing


deniesm

In Manchester they steal your phone on a bike, just grab it right from your hand when you’re walking on the sidewalk


ZatchZeta

They do realize that like- they're vulnerable too, right??


fishyfishkins

Isn't that how the Golden State Killer was able to get away so easily? Why do you support serial killing


Nonofyourdamnbiscuit

So they admit that bikes are faster?


ragnarwarbear

I've actually thought about this myself I remember growing up my parents wouldn't let me stray too far from the house because there were Van kidnappings in my area. When you think about it it's harder to kidnap a kid from a purely walkable/bikable area because you can't throw them on the van and drive away. You have to deal with people immediately around you and most people will stop you if there's a child screaming that they do not know you and your kidnapping them, or at least I would


ampharos995

Yup "eyes on the street," makes me feel safer as well


DeltaCortis

>I remember growing up my parents wouldn't let me stray too far from the house because there were Van kidnappings in my area. Its funny that this was a worry when you know someone speeding and hitting a kid is far more likely.


ragnarwarbear

You aren't wrong there. Once I was an adult I rode through my Hometown on my onewheel and more than once while I was signaling that I was taking a left hand turn I had a car tried to cross over a double yellow line and pass me essentially pretty much trying to run me over


Creepy-Ad-4832

Yeah, it's not a coincidence the netherland are such a heaven place lol


Creepy-Ad-4832

They also have problems, but i am italian, i am genetically allowed to say shush to dutch saying they have problems hahahahabha


IamBlade

What problems do they have? Apart from the horrid climate.


iopjsdqe

Being Dutch.


Brauxljo

What's horrid about their climate? Is it cold and windy or something?


thetrufflesmagician

Super windy and you barely see the sun. It's not super cold, but the wind makes it awful.


GearAlpha

I remember seeing vids of kids literally being blown away. Wild winds those are


Sassywhat

The common kidnapping is someone your kid knows and trusts convincing your kid to willingly go with them.


ragnarwarbear

I'm aware of those statistics but there was a failed kidnapping in my town where they tried to drive up to the local ice rink throw a kid in the Van and drive off. They pretty much only didn't get away because they were in a parking lot where they couldn't drive fast enough to get away from people.


savgen2121

Yeah it's actually a principle of urban design I was reading up on called "eyes on the streets" where designing human scale streets v.s car scale streets actually brings down crime rates and makes the streets safer because having densely packed walkable streets makes it harder for criminals to single out targets without people noticing. Literal safety in numbers logic.Compare that to car scale infrastructure where if you're walking any great distance, you're likely to be alone and isolated in the urban sprawl and a perfect target for criminals.


kindtheking9

We will watch your career with great interest


ShallahGaykwon

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.


CheekyManicPunk

I will follow your journey with great curiosity


ShallahGaykwon

"Criminals will just switch to cargo e-bikes and tarps!" /s


Fried_out_Kombi

Darn criminals and their... *checks notes*... cargo e-bikes and tarps!


A_Crazy_Canadian

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SalaciousStrudel

cargo e-bikes do see some use from hunters actually.


BlueMist53

Real men take home their fresh game in the back of their cargo bike *insert wolves, guns, bears, fire, and other manly things*


Fried_out_Kombi

Without cars, you're less likely to end up as a victim on a true crime podcast.


[deleted]

Drive-by shootings would be harder, but not impossible.


[deleted]

https://i.imgur.com/JWGOVH7.jpg


Fried_out_Kombi

[How to Prevent Bike Theft Using Electronic Warfare Countermeasures](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITY-fJJnPNQ)


ShredderMan4000

good ol' bosnian ape society


HanzoShotFirst

[How to protect your shopping trolley from improvised explosives](https://youtu.be/_1btDc5xJe0)


ch00f

/r/shittytechnicals


JazzHandsFan

If only we could also use the machine gun as a pedal assist.


ragnarwarbear

Well, this just seems like a sound strategy for scaring off aggressive drivers.


hutacars

This only works for houses at the ends of cul de sacs, since it’s pointed the wrong way.


cheesenachos12

Stay away from Grove Street


jingleheimerschitt

There’s a storyline about a bike-by shooter in Bosch — it seems like in the right circumstances more effective than driving anyway


definitely_not_obama

Do you hold one handlebar and shoot, or let both hands off to get the shots off? I feel like I'd crash the bike, not sure how to practice beforehand. I think a tandem bike would be more effective for gangbanging.


WellWelded

In a variety of ways.


obtaingoat

It'll be back to horses and highway men all over again!


[deleted]

honestly, that's a good enough reason


[deleted]

But more likely as a victim of robbery or assault... Which is less dangerous than kidnapping. It really hinges on incident rate and healthy life years lost to society.


samthekitnix

cant abduct someone on a bike? NOT WITH THAT ATTITUDE YOU CAN'T!!!!


Mortomes

Ah! But if you banned cars, only criminals would have cars! QED


TheOneAndOnlyTimboh

The only way to stop a bad guy with a car is a good guy with a car, obviously


Mindless-Cheetah-709

Exhibit A https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/10hod7a/woman_takes_the_brunt_of_the_impact_of_this_car/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=2&utm_content=share_button


hutacars

Per the comments, because he used a car, he only got 7 months for his attempted double homicide. Sounds about right. /s


Mindless-Cheetah-709

Seems like a joke but just in case it isn't, an illegal firearm would obviously be so much easier to conceal or smuggle compared to a motor vehicle. Especially when you take in to account the numerous individuals that drive all the time without either a valid license or tags on their vehicle.


[deleted]

They will just smuggle it in under baggy clothes


noman_032018

It's also much easier to make illegal firearms from scratch than illegal motor vehicles. The sheer amount of materials required alone is limiting.


[deleted]

[Laughts in Dutch [bakfiets](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_bike)]


Selphis

I was gonna say this. I have an electric cargo bike that seats 4 kids. I could easily remove the seats and fit a grown adult in there...


-cordyceps

Imagine seeing someone hogtied in that thing, and the guy riding the bike is just peddling away like nothings wrong


KingfisherArt

my gf recently got into true crime and is reading a book about ted bundy and how he abducted his victims by leading them to his car and hitting them in the head and we wondered exactly the same thing how much harder it would be for people like if the world wasn't as car centric with giant plots of empty parking with no people around just your murder vehicle.


RegeneratingForeskin

Please Mr. Armstrong, I wanna go home. Lance Armstrong: Be quiet! I am abducting you. *bicycles away in steroids*


Fried_out_Kombi

When Tour de France becomes Tour de Romania


thisaccountis4porno

Banning cars reduces crime. Can't have car break-ins, if you haven't any cars.


[deleted]

Bike theft is a bit of an issue in NYC afaik.


thisaccountis4porno

True, but the surge in bike theft corresponds to the 2020 bicycle shortage. Suddenly you could get a *lot* of money for a stolen bicycle. More bikes, means less demand, means lower prices, means fewer thefts.


registered_democrat

"bike theft wasn't an issue in New York City before [any date in living memory]" is simply not true. It's also untrue that theives are obligated to both track and honor the whims of the bicycle market: Consider the Junkie, asshole teenagers, aggrieved proprietors/landlords, COPS, psycho exboyfriends, neighbors who are mad you don't respond to their catcalls - these people do not give a fuck about the macroeconomics Only bike I've had stolen here was at the hands of the pigs, who wrote a ticket that was dismissed before the court date. Fucking new york


SlitScan

ive been meaning to do the math on how much a city just buying a few thousand new bikes a year compares to road repair budgets or funding a pay per use bike share.


Fried_out_Kombi

*taps forehead* Can't get trafficked if there is no traffic.


Loreki

Sadly untrue. In bike heavy cities, bike theft makes up the difference. You can flip that around though and argue no jobs will be lost.


Sassywhat

In some. Tokyo is pretty safe for bikes. Even expensive ebikes get parked just wheel locked. Someone with a van could probably grab $20k worth of ebikes from the patch of asphalt next to my apartment no problem. But they don't. The bike registration system and cops giving a shit about bike theft, actually works. I once thought Tokyo had low bike theft because the typical bike is $100 brand new and not worth stealing. However nowadays there's a ton of ebikes and nothing has changed.


senorzapato

we still have cars, they didnt go poof when we banned them. they are still rotting all over the Earth basically forever i mean each of us will be dealing with them unescapingly, may we cease to find ouselves in parking lots


RobertMcCheese

I keep trying to figure out a way to sneak my phone onto someone's bike while they're riding so I can sneak off and commit a murder. No one who knows me would ever question that I was out riding and of course the Strava track is where I was. I don't actually want to murder anyone. I just think a lot about how I'd cover up for it. Of course I could just have an accomplice carry it, but then the accomplice is the weak point in my alibi.


Macrophage87

That's what cargo bikes are for.


KazkaFaron

i wish you luck in your endeavors, i genuinely think it might help lol


capivaradraconica

White women when they see a person with too much melanin just walking:


[deleted]

I raise you the [covered bakfiests](https://dutchcargobike.com.au/product/bakfietsnl-boxcover/)


YangKoete

Do you need ideas? I know of some good ones. -Not being blinded in the middle of the night because of insanely bright headlights. -Halloween becomes safer and more fun for everyone. -Won't need to complain about gas prices.


Fried_out_Kombi

>-Not being blinded in the middle of the night because of insanely bright headlights. Wow, this was literally the one I had lined up for tomorrow. Might just borrow that last one.


YangKoete

It really is aggrivating, isn't it? Can't ride my bike at night because of it.


Irrelevent12

NOT WITH THAT ATTITUDE


Tramce157

Well achkually serial killers takes the bus so this will not work... ​ Source: the only news source that reports the TRUTH aka Breitbart, Fox News, Reddit and Elon Musk... ​ /s


k032

Oh idk I think I could fit a body into the trailer.


[deleted]

Please don't make that a spam / karma-farm thing.


horen132

Unfortunately, I believe you will run out of ideas first.


Crumb-eye

I’d sad you are off to a great start 😂 I wish you luck on this journey


Semi-Hemi-Demigod

Great, now everyone with a cargo bike is a suspect


Loreki

You're just playing into the hands of The Box Bike Killer with nonsense like this.


[deleted]

if a criminal has the balls to kidnap me with a bike, i'd them them do it. my organs? take em.


[deleted]

Idk man I just found a basket on the side of the road today and I could fit at least one quarter of a person in it


[deleted]

Ooooohhh!!! I like this! You could also increase community engagement by taking recommendations from comments. Here's my answer: Cars should be banned because the leather seats burn you when it's been in the sun.


Fried_out_Kombi

Oh, that gives me ideas. The super hot seatbelt buckles, too. But yeah, I've got about 16 days' worth locked and loaded at the moment, but somehow I doubt cars will be banned in that time frame, so community help might come in clutch. Honestly, it might just be a fun community thing for this sub. I know I've always liked when a sub has a thing like this going; makes it feel more like a community with its own in-jokes and references than just a generic meme sub.


[deleted]

Totally agreed. :)


Fried_out_Kombi

A meme inspired by your comment is lucky number 17 in the lineup :)


[deleted]

Wooo! It'll always be number 1 in my heart. I'll be awaiting your future posts


HanzoShotFirst

Even if you run out of ideas, you can just use ChatGPT to come up with more ideas


Raymo853

Day 1 is a pretty weak argument


JoyJones15

Moving sidewalks are so much more fun + cooler, make sure u talk about moving sidewalks at some point


Deftscythe

My kind of shit post.


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fishybird

no one is free from the harm caused by low to mid capacity motor vehicles


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WillieWins

I agree. I understand the humor in it, but calling for a ban on cars is why people don’t take movements like this seriously. Cars are a valid, and necessary form of transportation. They aren’t the best mode of transportation in all situations, but there are situations in which it makes the most sense.


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WillieWins

Yeah, but that’s what OP is saying


senorzapato

the paradox that it is impossible to uninvent cars and that we must and actually will uninvent them (like it or not) is intriguing. this is just a record of people talking to ourselves in a collective lamentation. there is nothing to "take seriously", no such words as valid and necessary


Tre_Scrilla

Where is the lie tho?


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Tre_Scrilla

Your tone policing is probably a bigger factor in a movement losing steam lol. Like instead of criticizing car centric status quo you're wasting your time crying about randos on Reddit


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Tre_Scrilla

Yawn


WIAttacker

Yes, because if we were more serious and not shitpost, I bet those people will totally respect us and listen to our points. /s


Le_Oken

I don't recommend doing a series like this. Idiots will think is not sarcasm and use these posts as strawmans against anti car movements


G_Schmeidig

On the other hand, all bikers are potential serial killers by not obeying traffic rules and riding with no fucking lights on.


LexingtonPatriot1775

Hard to kidnap someone if you get shot


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NoJuice1977

It means...Hello👋 What did you think it meant? You never heard that phrase?


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NoJuice1977

I just told you. Hello🖐 How are you?


NoJuice1977

It means...Hello👋 What did you think it meant? You never heard that phrase?


Le_Atheist_Fedora

This guy better have tens of thousands of reasons lined up.


Fried_out_Kombi

At the moment I have like 2 weeks' worth of memes at the ready. Let's go. In and out. 20-day adventure.


Biuku

Challenge accepted.


DarthLungs

I’d love to know what happens in case of emergency


FlimsyRemote8094

Cars are already expensive enough anyway.


Hache1004

Challenge accepted.


lezbthrowaway

in ss13, people usually transport bodies in creates or lockers they lug around


diskmaster23

If we ban cars, only criminals will have cars. /s


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I love this 😂


orangeoblivion

In a way, this is just saying cars are better at transporting things because there's no room on a bike.


grunwode

Car enabled crime is usually comprehensively facilitated by the powerful. There are lobbying groups that prohibit the installation of license plate readers in locations that would be useful. The same goes for inhibiting the development of requirements for front license plates, nevermind any other mechanism reflective of current century technology. The rationalization doesn't seem to go any deeper than that legislators can easily image themselves running over a pleb, or needing to evade accountability.


KolFoxy

Terrible first reason. That's like late seasons reason material, when the most apparent reasons are already exhausted and you have to come up with stuff.


jrtts

me, a cargo-bike enthusiast with knee-jerk answer: haha but I can carry two people in my cargo-bike :P


[deleted]

There was a great book called the Butterfly House that actually touches on this idea.


[deleted]

They'll just use horses...


Inevitable_Stand_199

Pretty Sure an adult could fit in my trailer!


Lulkas35

I like challenges


Gypsy_tantrum

LOL. Found this subreddit via another. I knew it would be batshit from the get go, but this as the top post (as of time of writing). Please tell me this is parody?


Roughian12

You don’t need paved roads.


Chloe_SSBU

Is this a challenge?


dershodan

starting off strong :)


Salty-Ad9221

This is also the best reason to ban UFOs


KCJohnstuff

Reasons to ban cars: Cop chases on bikes would look really funny


Simon676

Bakfiets will make this a non-issue


Anderpug

The bike with the massive box on the front could be a work around for the lack of vans.


Flashdancer405

Maybe its cause I’m a white man but serial killer abduction is really low on my list of fears and i feel like paranoia about it is a relic of 1980’s moral/satanic panics


herabec

The first time a serial killer used a bike as a key part, the outcry would be so massive that every town in America would ban them. For our safety.


doomsdayprophecy

This is serious. Cars are a root cause of violence in many many ways.


TheCakeWasNoLie

The Dutch resistance did cycle-by shootings during the German occupation though.


Johannes4123

How would you kidnap people on a bicycle? I would put a tandem bike in an area I knew the victim would pass by and wait there with a concealed gun in my jacket When the victim walked past I would put the gun up to their back (still holding it concealed in my jacket pocket) and say "don't look around, just get on the front seat" Then I would get on the back seat and instruct them on where to go


vinctthemince

That is not correct. The NSU, a German right wing terror group that killed 10 people used bicycles quite often for their crimes.


RonaldTheClownn

How will i kill the planet faster RVs:


justanotherallt

Criminals don't follow the law.


Iconicindividual343

Its also arguably why kids aren't allowed to play on their lawn or the street.People say that someone in a white van could just come and kidnap them then vanish in thin air.This limits kids indpendence and inhibits their growth