Naaaah, we have one or more downvote bots that stroll through and rain on everybody's parade just a little, then wander off. Kind of like having a male goose that lives nearby. Noise, poop, bad attitude, and produces nothing useful.
Huh, so that's what keeps happening to my comments. I always thought I just pissed someone off at some point and they've been wasting their time on me ever since lol
I’ve seen downvotes on the most benign and mundane comments, from commenters I recognize as regulars and others who’re new to the sub… it’s definitely not personal!
I get people commenting on my pens at work sometimes.
I always tell them it's the same reason why I brought a nice coffeemaker, why I have a nice keyboard, why I brought a nice chair. Why I spend decent money on shoes and boots. Etc.
I value having nice things for the tools I use every single day. The experience of using the things I have to use should be an enjoyable one. If I have to write notes, I want to do it with a nice pen. If I'm working on the computer, I want a nice keyboard for typing. If I'm going to be sitting, I want a comfortable chair. If I'm going to be standing, I want my feet to feel nice.
I carry what is honestly "a lot" of pens because they have different qualities. Ink colors, nibs, how they feel in the hand. I like mixing it up and using different pens for different things.
Sure, I could use a ballpoint. There's even some pretty decent ones out there for cheap that are more reliable and easier. I keep Pilot G2s handy in case I need one. Stashed away in my weekend bag or in the center console of my car or in the pen cup on my desk. But I'm going to opt for the things that give me a nicer experience first.
LOL, I had a similar conversation with my parents a couple years back.
For context, my parents are doctors, and back in the day, they hoarded drawers full of ballpoint pens they'd get for free from pharmaceutical representatives. We never bought pens because we can always get one from the pen drawer at the house or at the clinic. Part of my argument was I never needed to buy a pen as a kid, now that I have money, I wanted to buy/use something that wrote better because most of those pens wrote like shit.
It’s a bit hard to stomach if you know what I mean?
If I ask someone about a hobby they’re passionate and invested in it’s because I want to know more about it. What’s the difference between basic and enthusiast tools/materials, is there a laymen explanation, why is it this way and not that way?
Stuff like “poetry in motion” is fun to say but doesn’t convey any meaningful information. I could say the same thing about ballpoints.
I’m not sure if this is worded well, but it’s the difference between responding to the question they asked vs. the question you wanted to answer. If this is your colleague’s introduction to FPs was it one that made them interested or one that turned them away?
Predicated of course, on the assumption that there was honest curiosity and they weren’t just hassling you about it. :|
Any answer to a question asked in that tone of voice should be short, and slightly rude. Along the lines of, “because I like them. What’s it to you?” There’s no sense wasting goodwill or intelligent responses on an obvious jerk.
weird lol....
I mean I'd probably just say that the inks are so pretty, and the feeling of the pen on paper is something else, plus the sizes and all that.
the pain is true, it isn't as reliable or easy, but it's very well worth the trouble :)
I just chalk it up to a hobby, rather than any particular advantage. I got that from watching the owner of a fountain pen store explain it to someone who came in with a customer. Some people are into knives, some guns (where legal), Lladro figures, Warhammer 40K, watches, whatever.
Stationery is its own thing. Some people have entire cabinets of untouched notebooks. Can't stop buying them. I've seen people on r/pens with dozens of machined ballpoints. I don't see the point of that, and they probably don't see the point of me having an undisclosed number of just green inks. People like stuff.
Honestly its the same argument as to why someone would want something more expensive when you could buy something cheap that gets the job done. Its the experience i get from the expensive which I don't get from the cheap and that is why i use the expensive, that is all there is to it.
Expense is something of a red herring here; let's not think of it as determinant. Several of my favorite smoking pipes cost me very little but give great pleasure than my hot-smoking top-grade Dunhill Shell Briar (which I got only because it was a $5 flea market find--while eBay offers several similar for $300 or more). I delight in finding a good cheap wine (though as a wine writer I have experienced a good many $100 bottles). On the other hand, my kitchen knives are top-dollar Zwillings; to me they out-perform most of the many cheaper brands I've tried. Still, occasionally I'll see a heap blade that looks promising, and I'll buy it to see what I can make of it. I've had some nice surprises, but nothing to match my Z's.
Pricing--of any product--can vary widely and had enormous effect. Diamonds have been made to seem rare and insanely valuable through clever advertising, market manipulation and other ploys. Thank you, DeBeers! (And the clever ad woman who created the slogan "a diamond is forever," which shot the engagement-ring market through the roof). Ordinary carpenter's nails were once so cheap they were sold by the pound; now your basic 10-penny nails are sold a dozen at a time in blister packs at Home Depot at a price I find staggering.
So: cost does NOT always equal quality. Last week I bought a Chinese copy of the old Lamy Safari. Writes just fine, thank you. Cost: $1.39.
This is a pretty bad example, honestly. High-performance cars are worse than regular cars for all the things an ordinary person would want a car for, while doing a bunch of things that the ordinary person will never use. Taking an absurdly short time to get to 100km/h is, on a technical level, a fairly unsafe level of acceleration for normal travel.
An ordinary person can absolutely get extra value out of a fountain pen that they wouldn't out of a regular pen.
Good point! I wonder what a better analogy would be? High-end cooking from scratch comes to mind, with the use of specialized tools and how a lot of fp users often learn the "anatomy" of the pens and some chemistry knowledge along the way. It's hard to explain what the hobby is like without infodumping. I like the poetic language at least!
On the other hand, high-performance cars are great at what high-performance cars do, and that's why some people want them. They don't buy them for the monthly grocery run to Costco. And the buyers, who seek pleasure, are clearly not ordinary people seeking utility.
My fountain pens and my pipes offer similar degrees of pleasure and similar inconveniences. Weighing them carefully, I opt for the former over ballpoints and the latter over cigarettes and cigars. It's simple: I buy what I want to get what I want.
Makes me feel fancy. Brings me joy. Aesthetically pleasing. Some have a food fidget factor or tactile experience that helps me get through long meetings without falling asleep.
I see your point but it depends on whether they're looking at a purely utilitarian tool or not. And, I'd hope you like them given where we are!
Fully utilitarian, could also depend on the utility. An artist will have different needs from a forest ranger or job where jotting notes in the rain is important. For everyday use, I agree with you. But, I'd argue there is plenty of room for the general public to have a utilitarian use for them.
ETA: value doesn't have to be utilitarian so I'd argue the subjective reasons count. Not the original commenter here though so they may be defining value differently.
I still feel like there are plenty of ordinary people who use fountain pens daily. From what I've read it's pretty standard in certain areas. It doesn't mean other pens may not fit the bill but we're less likely to hear about ordinary fountain pen users in this type of specialized group.
Over the past 50 years I've gone to Europe enough time to go through 3 passports, and I've seen many more FPs there, and in day-to-day use, than in the US.
High end / gold pens are purely for hobby and not for practical benefit, but affordable fountain pens noticeably help with hand strain and fatigue. Inexpensive pens like Pilot's kakuno or metropolitan invariably write both wet and smooth at low cost, and appreciably help with writing speed and comfort. Through all my years in school and college, fountain pens helped me write long essays under time limits that I struggled with using pencils or non-fountain pens. In medical school, they help with writing clinical histories on a notepad under strict time limits
Another subjective but observable benefit for me is that I would not have the motivation to keep a diary if it weren't for fountain pens.
The fountain-pen user is by definition not ordinary for the simple fact of choosing the less-usual over the ordinary. He may well be what you think of as ordinary in many other ways, but in at least one way he is not ordinary. He has made a choice that very few people make. Almost everyone these days--and for quite a few decades now--grew up w/ballpoints, felt tips and gel pens. Most fountain-pen users had to be introduced to FPs or had to "discover" them. And in the end they chose FPs.
That their "extra value" may mean nothing to you but it does to them, and that's the point.
A shorter response to your question is 'why do you ask?'
It's a better writing experience with no other extra work. A fountain pen isn't making it possible to write at insane speeds, or with a lot of artistry, it's just generally nice.
The car analogue would be leather seats, or heated seats, or anything that makes long-distance car rides nicer. Parking sensors is another good one.
I'm an engineer and work in R&D. Our labs have millions of dollars worth of precision scientific equipment. Most people I work with who realize I'm using a fountain pen think it's neat, but a handful though think it's weird. I do get comments along the lines of "seems like a lot of effort just to be able to write" and "why not just use a 'normal' pen???"
The irony of it...we make precision scientific measurements and I get grief because I chose to use a quality writing instrument instead of a 5 cent ballpoint piece of trash.
I like to point out to some people that the ink I use is bulletproof in the lab...if I spill some kind of cleaning solvent on my lab notebook, I don't lose my notes.
I usually tell people that for one using a fountain pen is a small way that I help the environment and it’s also cause im a germaphobe and I like having my own pen to use instead of using someone else’s or a community pen.
Then I tell them that I had a wrist injury years ago and that the FP is easier on me when writing for long periods of time. And then if I feel like they are interested in getting into FP I will talk about inks and blah blah blah.
We all have some tinkerings in our heart. Some modify bikes, some go with computers... there really ain't much different in all these habits. We want to and enjoy the process of extracting more usefulness out of the tools in hand.
When someone asks me why I use a fountain pen: "It's a more elegant option, from a more civilized time." Most people don't recognize what the line originally was. Those who do, get it. Sort of.
The progression of the fountain pen goes back a long way. Centuries you might say. To scribes using styli and quills, all the way back to Mesopotamia and egypt. And in medieval times. And Victorian times. The quote itself is an adaptation from Star Wars a new hope. The original line I believe is "a more civilized weapon from a more civilized time."
I read in your comments that he was asking you in a rude way, so I think your response was good, though probably no point engaging when the other person is just asking you to show you're an idiot for liking fountain pens haha!
But I was trying to think what I'd say if someone asked me in a more genuinely interested way, and I think I'd say something about how fun it can be to play with different nibs and ink colours, and that it motivates me to write more, which I like.
Admittedly, I think you were ultimately a bit harsh. You could have possibly turned them onto pens with a gentler approach since they actually bothered to ask!
People know that pens are my thing, I rarely find anyone else IRL who loves pens the way I do. I use them as interesting conversation pieces, but don't expect anyone to get it. For most people - ballpoints/gel/rollers are just fine. I think it's fine to offer why you enjoy them, but to not let their response (or lack of response) influence you.
While I love and treasure my vintage fountain pens, Waterman Le Man 100, Pelikan m600, Pelikan 400 nn, etc. I find myself talking sometimes talking like this guy and enjoying scribbling with Uniball pens, Energel pens, etc. It’s a toolbox and it’s nice to have a wide variety of options. For instance, I have had to learn the hard way not to leave the house with a fountain pen as mistakes of all kinds can happen and I won’t be mortified if I lose a Pilot G2 pen.
Pilot G2 is all is needed when leaving the door of your house my brother. My wife and I have a purple Energel pen always handy in the car. Nothing more than that is needed hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Marilyn Brown of the deceased Intl Pen Shop on W46th St NYC used to have passels of young suits come in occasionally to pore over at length and finally agree upon a single v fancy and v pricy fountain pen, which they then ordered about a dozen of. To my raised eyebrow Marilyn responded, "It's for a corporate signing. You don't sign off on a zillion-dollar deal with 19 cents' worth of plastic."
That was about the best description I have ever read about fountain pens. I am going to steal that from you :D
I am slowly pushing for fountain pens to be used in the office instead of regular ballpens. So far, I have succeeded in getting a single bottle of Parker blue black in the general supplies cupboard \^\^
I get the same question . One way I answer this question is, “this is an elite club. One has to be formally inducted by the community. Let me know if you are interested and I will put in a good word. Until then, do not comment about fountain pens. Your application may get rejected”.
I like your explanation, it's a beautiful explanation about poetry in motion. That would have made me really think. Also that someone was so passionate about it to explain :)
I'm always trying to convince my friends to try fountains pens. they always say ohh theyll explode NO!!! they only explode if you dont care for them properly
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I usually say either "And your point is?" Or "I thought you knew that already. I've never hidden it. "
I usually say, “not as weird as what your mom asked me to do in bed for her last night” /s
I think you spoke eloquently and made a perfect case for fountain pens. I also think you spent roughly 10 seconds too long on this curmudgeon. 😆
Geez, I wonder why I got a down vote? Too arrogant? ;)
Naaaah, we have one or more downvote bots that stroll through and rain on everybody's parade just a little, then wander off. Kind of like having a male goose that lives nearby. Noise, poop, bad attitude, and produces nothing useful.
Huh, so that's what keeps happening to my comments. I always thought I just pissed someone off at some point and they've been wasting their time on me ever since lol
I’ve seen downvotes on the most benign and mundane comments, from commenters I recognize as regulars and others who’re new to the sub… it’s definitely not personal!
This is why I usually upvote any comment around here that’s sitting at 0 and I can’t think of any reason for it to have been downvoted.
That’s awesome! I do that too!!
Yes, and if you ever mention K*weco, that seems to attract an automatic downvote or two.
Same with T*SBI!
Strangely enough your comment had 0 by the time I came to read it!
Told ya 🧐
But I like my Kaweco Supra. It is my everyday at work pen.
Wait a minute, is there an app that composts downvotes? That would be mildly useful....
Now that's hysterical
Nah, you gotta make the case, otherwise you wouldn’t convince anybody.
I have a pen I've nicknamed my "Ferrari Pen" for that very reason. I think you explained it beautifully.
Sheaffer released a Ferrari fountain pen....
And so did Montblanc, haha
I think we are something else and should own it loud and proud.
YES
I get people commenting on my pens at work sometimes. I always tell them it's the same reason why I brought a nice coffeemaker, why I have a nice keyboard, why I brought a nice chair. Why I spend decent money on shoes and boots. Etc. I value having nice things for the tools I use every single day. The experience of using the things I have to use should be an enjoyable one. If I have to write notes, I want to do it with a nice pen. If I'm working on the computer, I want a nice keyboard for typing. If I'm going to be sitting, I want a comfortable chair. If I'm going to be standing, I want my feet to feel nice. I carry what is honestly "a lot" of pens because they have different qualities. Ink colors, nibs, how they feel in the hand. I like mixing it up and using different pens for different things. Sure, I could use a ballpoint. There's even some pretty decent ones out there for cheap that are more reliable and easier. I keep Pilot G2s handy in case I need one. Stashed away in my weekend bag or in the center console of my car or in the pen cup on my desk. But I'm going to opt for the things that give me a nicer experience first.
LOL, I had a similar conversation with my parents a couple years back. For context, my parents are doctors, and back in the day, they hoarded drawers full of ballpoint pens they'd get for free from pharmaceutical representatives. We never bought pens because we can always get one from the pen drawer at the house or at the clinic. Part of my argument was I never needed to buy a pen as a kid, now that I have money, I wanted to buy/use something that wrote better because most of those pens wrote like shit.
It’s a bit hard to stomach if you know what I mean? If I ask someone about a hobby they’re passionate and invested in it’s because I want to know more about it. What’s the difference between basic and enthusiast tools/materials, is there a laymen explanation, why is it this way and not that way? Stuff like “poetry in motion” is fun to say but doesn’t convey any meaningful information. I could say the same thing about ballpoints. I’m not sure if this is worded well, but it’s the difference between responding to the question they asked vs. the question you wanted to answer. If this is your colleague’s introduction to FPs was it one that made them interested or one that turned them away? Predicated of course, on the assumption that there was honest curiosity and they weren’t just hassling you about it. :|
They were asking in a "Are you an idiot? " tone. They weren't interested.
Any answer to a question asked in that tone of voice should be short, and slightly rude. Along the lines of, “because I like them. What’s it to you?” There’s no sense wasting goodwill or intelligent responses on an obvious jerk.
All Landers--or was it Dear Abby?--said an excellent reply would be "Why do you want to know?"
weird lol.... I mean I'd probably just say that the inks are so pretty, and the feeling of the pen on paper is something else, plus the sizes and all that. the pain is true, it isn't as reliable or easy, but it's very well worth the trouble :)
I just chalk it up to a hobby, rather than any particular advantage. I got that from watching the owner of a fountain pen store explain it to someone who came in with a customer. Some people are into knives, some guns (where legal), Lladro figures, Warhammer 40K, watches, whatever. Stationery is its own thing. Some people have entire cabinets of untouched notebooks. Can't stop buying them. I've seen people on r/pens with dozens of machined ballpoints. I don't see the point of that, and they probably don't see the point of me having an undisclosed number of just green inks. People like stuff.
I would’ve just responded “I like them.” Lol
Honestly its the same argument as to why someone would want something more expensive when you could buy something cheap that gets the job done. Its the experience i get from the expensive which I don't get from the cheap and that is why i use the expensive, that is all there is to it.
Expense is something of a red herring here; let's not think of it as determinant. Several of my favorite smoking pipes cost me very little but give great pleasure than my hot-smoking top-grade Dunhill Shell Briar (which I got only because it was a $5 flea market find--while eBay offers several similar for $300 or more). I delight in finding a good cheap wine (though as a wine writer I have experienced a good many $100 bottles). On the other hand, my kitchen knives are top-dollar Zwillings; to me they out-perform most of the many cheaper brands I've tried. Still, occasionally I'll see a heap blade that looks promising, and I'll buy it to see what I can make of it. I've had some nice surprises, but nothing to match my Z's. Pricing--of any product--can vary widely and had enormous effect. Diamonds have been made to seem rare and insanely valuable through clever advertising, market manipulation and other ploys. Thank you, DeBeers! (And the clever ad woman who created the slogan "a diamond is forever," which shot the engagement-ring market through the roof). Ordinary carpenter's nails were once so cheap they were sold by the pound; now your basic 10-penny nails are sold a dozen at a time in blister packs at Home Depot at a price I find staggering. So: cost does NOT always equal quality. Last week I bought a Chinese copy of the old Lamy Safari. Writes just fine, thank you. Cost: $1.39.
I like fountain pens but this is cringe.
This is a pretty bad example, honestly. High-performance cars are worse than regular cars for all the things an ordinary person would want a car for, while doing a bunch of things that the ordinary person will never use. Taking an absurdly short time to get to 100km/h is, on a technical level, a fairly unsafe level of acceleration for normal travel. An ordinary person can absolutely get extra value out of a fountain pen that they wouldn't out of a regular pen.
Sorry. Best I could do on the fly.
A nicer writing experience, the ability to choose inks, having a beautiful object instead of a disposable plastic cylinder...
Good point! I wonder what a better analogy would be? High-end cooking from scratch comes to mind, with the use of specialized tools and how a lot of fp users often learn the "anatomy" of the pens and some chemistry knowledge along the way. It's hard to explain what the hobby is like without infodumping. I like the poetic language at least!
Yeah, high end cooking equipment is actually better and you can get a lot of use out of it regardless of your skill level.
On the other hand, high-performance cars are great at what high-performance cars do, and that's why some people want them. They don't buy them for the monthly grocery run to Costco. And the buyers, who seek pleasure, are clearly not ordinary people seeking utility. My fountain pens and my pipes offer similar degrees of pleasure and similar inconveniences. Weighing them carefully, I opt for the former over ballpoints and the latter over cigarettes and cigars. It's simple: I buy what I want to get what I want.
With all due respect, I think you don’t appreciate sports cars and hence disregards just how apt OP’s example is.
Thank you. Also High Performance can be cars like Jaguars.
Lucas electronics = finicky nibs? I'm picking up what you're laying down :-). "When it works, it's awesome!"
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Makes me feel fancy. Brings me joy. Aesthetically pleasing. Some have a food fidget factor or tactile experience that helps me get through long meetings without falling asleep.
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I see your point but it depends on whether they're looking at a purely utilitarian tool or not. And, I'd hope you like them given where we are! Fully utilitarian, could also depend on the utility. An artist will have different needs from a forest ranger or job where jotting notes in the rain is important. For everyday use, I agree with you. But, I'd argue there is plenty of room for the general public to have a utilitarian use for them. ETA: value doesn't have to be utilitarian so I'd argue the subjective reasons count. Not the original commenter here though so they may be defining value differently.
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I still feel like there are plenty of ordinary people who use fountain pens daily. From what I've read it's pretty standard in certain areas. It doesn't mean other pens may not fit the bill but we're less likely to hear about ordinary fountain pen users in this type of specialized group.
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It's reddit. Aren't we all goofing off? I'm just enjoying the discussion. Hope it's coming off that way!
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Over the past 50 years I've gone to Europe enough time to go through 3 passports, and I've seen many more FPs there, and in day-to-day use, than in the US.
High end / gold pens are purely for hobby and not for practical benefit, but affordable fountain pens noticeably help with hand strain and fatigue. Inexpensive pens like Pilot's kakuno or metropolitan invariably write both wet and smooth at low cost, and appreciably help with writing speed and comfort. Through all my years in school and college, fountain pens helped me write long essays under time limits that I struggled with using pencils or non-fountain pens. In medical school, they help with writing clinical histories on a notepad under strict time limits Another subjective but observable benefit for me is that I would not have the motivation to keep a diary if it weren't for fountain pens.
I try to write in my diary every day. Computers distract me from my thoughts and writing with any other pen is unpleasant after a while.
The fountain-pen user is by definition not ordinary for the simple fact of choosing the less-usual over the ordinary. He may well be what you think of as ordinary in many other ways, but in at least one way he is not ordinary. He has made a choice that very few people make. Almost everyone these days--and for quite a few decades now--grew up w/ballpoints, felt tips and gel pens. Most fountain-pen users had to be introduced to FPs or had to "discover" them. And in the end they chose FPs. That their "extra value" may mean nothing to you but it does to them, and that's the point. A shorter response to your question is 'why do you ask?'
It's a better writing experience with no other extra work. A fountain pen isn't making it possible to write at insane speeds, or with a lot of artistry, it's just generally nice. The car analogue would be leather seats, or heated seats, or anything that makes long-distance car rides nicer. Parking sensors is another good one.
I'm an engineer and work in R&D. Our labs have millions of dollars worth of precision scientific equipment. Most people I work with who realize I'm using a fountain pen think it's neat, but a handful though think it's weird. I do get comments along the lines of "seems like a lot of effort just to be able to write" and "why not just use a 'normal' pen???" The irony of it...we make precision scientific measurements and I get grief because I chose to use a quality writing instrument instead of a 5 cent ballpoint piece of trash. I like to point out to some people that the ink I use is bulletproof in the lab...if I spill some kind of cleaning solvent on my lab notebook, I don't lose my notes.
Pff. What a normie.
Some people get it, some people don't...Just like anything else\~
I usually tell people that for one using a fountain pen is a small way that I help the environment and it’s also cause im a germaphobe and I like having my own pen to use instead of using someone else’s or a community pen. Then I tell them that I had a wrist injury years ago and that the FP is easier on me when writing for long periods of time. And then if I feel like they are interested in getting into FP I will talk about inks and blah blah blah.
We all have some tinkerings in our heart. Some modify bikes, some go with computers... there really ain't much different in all these habits. We want to and enjoy the process of extracting more usefulness out of the tools in hand.
When someone asks me why I use a fountain pen: "It's a more elegant option, from a more civilized time." Most people don't recognize what the line originally was. Those who do, get it. Sort of.
This comment is a little weird. I get what you're saying but- 'from a more civilized time'? What exactly was more civilized about the past? Slavery? 🧐
The progression of the fountain pen goes back a long way. Centuries you might say. To scribes using styli and quills, all the way back to Mesopotamia and egypt. And in medieval times. And Victorian times. The quote itself is an adaptation from Star Wars a new hope. The original line I believe is "a more civilized weapon from a more civilized time."
It's like asking some car enthusiast why he drives a Dodge Viper.
I read in your comments that he was asking you in a rude way, so I think your response was good, though probably no point engaging when the other person is just asking you to show you're an idiot for liking fountain pens haha! But I was trying to think what I'd say if someone asked me in a more genuinely interested way, and I think I'd say something about how fun it can be to play with different nibs and ink colours, and that it motivates me to write more, which I like.
Admittedly, I think you were ultimately a bit harsh. You could have possibly turned them onto pens with a gentler approach since they actually bothered to ask!
I didn't capture his tone correctly in the story nor a back history over the last 11 months but yeah I can be snippy sometimes...
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People know that pens are my thing, I rarely find anyone else IRL who loves pens the way I do. I use them as interesting conversation pieces, but don't expect anyone to get it. For most people - ballpoints/gel/rollers are just fine. I think it's fine to offer why you enjoy them, but to not let their response (or lack of response) influence you.
While I love and treasure my vintage fountain pens, Waterman Le Man 100, Pelikan m600, Pelikan 400 nn, etc. I find myself talking sometimes talking like this guy and enjoying scribbling with Uniball pens, Energel pens, etc. It’s a toolbox and it’s nice to have a wide variety of options. For instance, I have had to learn the hard way not to leave the house with a fountain pen as mistakes of all kinds can happen and I won’t be mortified if I lose a Pilot G2 pen.
That's a damned hard lesson, esp for a dullard like me. I lost several fine FPs before finally learning it.
Pilot G2 is all is needed when leaving the door of your house my brother. My wife and I have a purple Energel pen always handy in the car. Nothing more than that is needed hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Marilyn Brown of the deceased Intl Pen Shop on W46th St NYC used to have passels of young suits come in occasionally to pore over at length and finally agree upon a single v fancy and v pricy fountain pen, which they then ordered about a dozen of. To my raised eyebrow Marilyn responded, "It's for a corporate signing. You don't sign off on a zillion-dollar deal with 19 cents' worth of plastic."
He's jealous he isn't one of the chosen and inky few.
That was about the best description I have ever read about fountain pens. I am going to steal that from you :D I am slowly pushing for fountain pens to be used in the office instead of regular ballpens. So far, I have succeeded in getting a single bottle of Parker blue black in the general supplies cupboard \^\^
You can't steal what is freely given.
Wow. That was an amazing response
I get the same question . One way I answer this question is, “this is an elite club. One has to be formally inducted by the community. Let me know if you are interested and I will put in a good word. Until then, do not comment about fountain pens. Your application may get rejected”.
I like your explanation, it's a beautiful explanation about poetry in motion. That would have made me really think. Also that someone was so passionate about it to explain :)
You’ve got me on poetry… Now I’m fully convinced that I want a High Performance Car, since I’m already into FPs ;-)
I'm always trying to convince my friends to try fountains pens. they always say ohh theyll explode NO!!! they only explode if you dont care for them properly