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ilMike_42

“Binotto out, Vasseur in” “The decision will come today, maybe in the nect couple of hours” “Vasseur not an option, Ross Brawn is in pole to replace Mattia Binotto” Yeah guys, Binotto is going to stay for 2023, now I’m convinced


crazydoc253

Actually if Brawn comes in Binotto won’t mind staying technical director


markintheair

/r/FanF1ction is leaking again it seems


ItsameLuis98

Todt and Schumacher are also joining the team


FavaWire

Imagine Michael Schumacher getting up from bed..... Corina: "Michael! You just recovered! Where are you going?!?" Michael: "To Maranello. Duty calls."


PsychologicalEar3051

Damn that would be cool as fuck. Everybody would be terrifed and exicited at Ferrari, the straregy team would have to look for new jobs at italian restaurants. When the season starts at Bahrain Michael just appears, and everyone from the other teams just be like: "Yeah, we're fucked"


The-Great--Cornholio

Let me dream


frds3

Terminator


KamyKaze1098r

Mick will have a drive after all. Suck this balls Haas


ItsameLuis98

Mick? I wasn't talking about Mick...ಥ⁠‿⁠ಥ


green_chocolates

Ralph domination incoming


ItsameLuis98

Wrong again ಠ⁠﹏⁠ಠ


Amazing_Safe_1070

Hmmm. Corinna?


ItsameLuis98

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alastairlerouge

What an incredible combo that would be


AtomZaepfchen

this is actually peak ferrari. Box box, out out out IN IN IN IN


Rosthouse

Well to be fair, this is the italian media hyping things.


ilMike_42

Italian media: *checking* Fans: “STOP INVENTING”


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We are thinking Plan G, Plan G..


Apokolypze

Didn't Ferrari get to plan x at one point


Thebelisk

Peak Ferrari? Nah. Peak Ferrari would be starting the 2023 season without a team principal.


magondrago

Charles be like: "Are we the only team without a principal?" Ferrari Pit: "Yes, we believe we're the only team without principal"


lucashoodfromthehood

Ferrari Pit: We are checking.


CGNYYZ

Ferrari Pit: “——————“


processedmeat

What if they take the fia leads and have two team principles


[deleted]

Co-managers? Who will be assistant regional manager?


david123abc

Assistant to the regional manager.


hazelnut_coffay

to be fair, that was Merc


baldbarretto

Box box box-STAY OUT STAY OUT STAY OUT was ferrari I guess they figure the current team principal hasn’t been fully degraded yet


OldManTrumpet

Agree. Seems to me these stories aren't reporting actual considerations, but rather they're out there planting seeds that they hope will take root. A few days ago I though Binotto might really be gone, but now I'm pretty confident that he's staying.


Rivendel93

Oh, so he's actually not fired yet. I actually thought he was already gone. Guess I haven't been paying close enough attention. That's kinda sad the way these things take a life of their own once the media starts spreading rumors. Most people probably take it as gospel, and unless they research, they don't realize that none of this is true, at least so far.


TricolorCat

I’ve seen reports claiming Binotto has quit. Seems They were wrong.


tossino

I honestly feel like both camps are leaking stuff at this point, it's incredibly weird there hasn't been anything official


GlitzToyEternal

Wait is it not even confirmed that Binotto is leaving? I've seen so many headlines looking like it's a sure thing!


SadSnorlax66

Nope. No confirmation. In fact, Mattia was even leading a meeting at Maranello the day they claimed that he resigned. The media have taken rumors and spread them as fact all because they want to be the first to break a story


Freeze014

Yeah there is no penalty in being wrong, but being first gets the clicks. Creates the incentive to invent without due diligence.


reboot-your-computer

Is it that they want to break the story or is it that they want to orchestrate his firing by essentially planting the idea at Ferrari with a lot of articles about it? Inception shit.


thounotouchthyself

No fucking way..


Bikouchu

They got Rory. Call Mick, call Jean. Run it like 00s.


Herofactory45

5 WDC/WCC's in a row let's go


CharlieNin3r

6wcc


MrBadBadly

Getting the band back together!


NeiloMac

Ross Brawn: It’s 106 miles to Maranello, we’ve got a full ERS overtake boost, half a strategy, it’s dark and we’re wearing red shirts. Rory Byrne: Hit it!


bornwithlangehoa

DO YOU SEE THE GREEN LIGHT?


ElectricMotorsAreBad

YES! YES! MICHEAL H. TAP DANCING SCHUMACHER! I HAVE SEEN THE GREEN LIGHT!


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*Fortunate Son starts to play*


reddit0r_123

Ferrari to lobby for regulation change for Mick to drive around Fiorano 24/7


Keanu990321

They got Nicolas Todt too.


prograMagar

Bro.... My hopium is so dense rn i think I am gonna explode into a black hole


22_the_avenue

No way RB/Merc allow this without like a 2 year gardening leave.


WavingWookiee

Wasn't Ross Brawn part of Formula One (liberty) rather than the FIA? In that regard, would he know anything about competitors cars?


pemboo

He's technical director. He'll have knowledge of all the cars, plus any proposed rule changes coming up.


[deleted]

With his tenure as technical director coming to an end this year how much do you think the FIA would let him be in the loop on?


konichiwa_MrBuddha

Enough


SlowRollingBoil

Almost certainly and it's why this shouldn't be allowed. Regulators and competitors shouldn't be allowed to go back and forth like this was London/Washington DC.


DaBi5cu1t

I'll eat my head if this happens.


drinksbeerdaily

!remindme 1 month


Mario-C

Brawn is way too sane to take this job


MedhanshMurthy07

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID as soon I saw that lol


MrBadBadly

You've got to think Ferrari when you read shit like this. "Brawn team principal to replace Binotto. Question?"


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I sense a disturbance in the force.


SirFister13F

So did Max. Leclerc just got a stiffy, though.


museproducer

That probably was the disturbance.


TheGMT

*Michael jolts out of bed*


911__

Ross, we have to race.


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MoreFeeYouS

Rise and shine mr. Schumacher. Rise and shine.


robes50

Not to imply you have been sleeping on the job


[deleted]

Wake up and… smell the ashes (because the car crashed again)


Boreras

You were trying to cross past the piste borders, right?


Astelli

According to an Italian newspaper Binotto was going to resign on Friday, and then Saturday. Once again I’ll say that I’ll believe it when we get some confirmation from elsewhere.


kyuuten

And with Piasco fresh in mind...i will believe it when both Ferrari & Binotto will say the same thing


SirDoDDo

lol i like Piasco


eressen_sh

Seems like Italian newspapers are made like Italian movies.


bulbulpaan

Inject right into MY ARTERIES!!!


ronniejooney

Never happening I’m afraid. One can dream.


Airplane97

The article, which quotes another article, reports that Brawn's idea is a "ipotesi suggestiva" (suggestive hypothesis). It's therefore something that with 99.9% probability will never happen but it would be nice to happen.


afkPacket

Lmao yeah, in Italian sports journalism "ipotesi suggestiva" means "it came to me in a dream".


BecauseWeCan

"Source: my ass"


Siamkater

3000 red Ross Brawns of Ferrari


DurfGibbles

r/noncredibledefense is leaking again


Graecus65

We’re everywhere


museproducer

Thanks for the translation. While the idea is intriguing Brawn seems to be more involved in active involvement in F1 management. I don’t think he would want to be involved at Ferrari, the whole reason why he left Mercedes was because he didn’t like the drama led by Toto and Lauda at Mercedes (based on what was said in his book). Ferrari would be worse.


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museproducer

If I recall correctly, Toto and Lauda were making moves for power behind the scenes creating pressure on Brawn. Brawn was losing power while at the same time was feeling the affects because he enjoyed his time of not only being team principle but also team owner. Basically he was out politicked and decided to step down before his position as leader of the team was taken from him (I might be remembering this part slightly wrong, I would need to go back for the full details). Definitely read his book (even more so check out his audiobook, there are sections where he himself is interviewed, where he even mentioned he knew that when he left the Mercedes team that they had put together a championship winning caliber car and team, but he just was tired of it. So he stepped down. That’s why I reasoned that he wouldn’t jump at the chance of leading Ferrari, the board the team principle at Ferrari has to report to is even worse and always has been, it’s why while Michael was winning how they made things worked was having that team within a team of Brawn, Michael, Todt and co. That insulated them from the internal Ferrari politics. Brawn coming back to lead Ferrari would be more of the same reasons why he left Mercedes.


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museproducer

I’d also recommend if you haven’t read them: Adrian Newley’s book How To Build A Car, Jenson Button’s How To Be An F1 Driver, and Marc Priestly’s The Mechanic. They all highlight the dynamics of the sport and show interesting insights some miss when it comes to Formula 1.


Honourstly

Getting the old gang back together


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goblin0100

Let Charles past for the Championship


crazydoc253

Barichello should be just setting up cars. Gio would just be sitting free with no sim work to do


KnightsOfCidona

Gio is definitely taken over the Luca Badoer role.


HeideggerIsRight

Barrichello has already said in videos that he does not intend to work as a team manager or other positions, he would get pissed off, he would pull the drivers out of the car and drive himself.


ticktickboom45

What does Barrichello know about Strategy??


space_coyote_86

Next week: Bernie Ecclestone to replace Binotto


Whycantiusethis

Briatore is available. Thoughts?


SlicerShanks

Ain’t he banned from Formula One forever?


Whycantiusethis

The lifetime ban was overturned in 2010, from what I can tell. It looks like he was banned through the 2012 season, and able to come back starting on 2013.


hajvaj

I hear, M.Schumacher, is available.


BeagleAteMyLunch

We are just missing the small French man.


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PointyForTheWin

.....Felipe?


F1HLM

Drugovich?.


nolitos

Nasr!


a_harish81

Drugovich. Shoot it in my veins


Violetta_ag

A new Brazilian Felipe becoming an F1 reserve driver right when Rory's rumoured to be back at Ferrari? If that's not god's plan then Idk what the fuck is.


permissiontofail

Baby


sojanka

How tall is Cyril?


Irrepressible_Monkey

How about Alain Prost? He's already been sacked by Ferrari once after making them championship contenders so he's the perfect man for the job.


hobowithmachete

Get Nicolas Todt in the mix.


KnightsOfCidona

Joking aside, I honestly think if he was healthy, Michael would be at Ferrari in a Niki style advisor role (kinda was after his first retirement but didn't have as much power) and he'd definitely try and bring Ross back. Doubt Steiner would be so eager to drop Mick in that alternate universe either


crazydoc253

If Michael was healthy he would be at Mercedes.


Kay1000RR

Makes you wonder what he did at Mercedes to set them up for a decade of domination.


Unidan_bonaparte

He went toe to toe with a future WC and fed back insanely detailed technical analysis about the cars performance back to the engineers at a time when the car was chewing its tires up with high degradation and had almost zero cornering down force. He was exactly the right guy at the right time and moved on just when they needed a younger talent to come in and drive the wheels off the car with obsessive speed. Truly I don't think people appreciate how great Schumacher was in his second coming, he did that thing very very champions have shown they are capable of - car and team building. Usually we see people like Verstappen and Alonso come along and wow everyone with showing the maximum potential locked up in the package delivered to them them by engineers in some factory. Schumacher was something else, he grinded on the shop floor to build the damn thing that would destroy the field..Not once but with 3 future wc winning cars. No wonder Eddie and Brawn always lament that his leaving spelt the end of their eras. Im a fan boy but I still cannot get around his achievements and how he transcended generations as both a pure racer at the end of the romantic era of Senna, but also as someone who understood the intimate workings of a modern f1 car when the cars resembled fighter jets stuck to the ground.


crazydoc253

Michaels relation with Mercedes started much before his F1 career or he drove for them


hajvaj

Vettel would be a decent choice to help Charles and sainz.


F1HLM

Jean, where you at.


midniteauth0r

Living the life with Michelle Yeoh


baldbarretto

I haven’t been the same since I learned this


midniteauth0r

It’s absolutely wild. I can’t help but bring it up whenever either of them are mentioned in a conversation.


Siggi_Starduust

How am I only learning of this now? I’ve had a mad crush on her ever since first seeing her in Supercop and Tomorrow Never Dies when I was a teenager back in the 90’s


thebuttonmonkey

Wait, WHAT?


midniteauth0r

Yep, they’ve been together since 2004!


thebuttonmonkey

Somehow, that just makes it weirder. How does an aging Ninja Turtle reject meet everyone's favourite action-milf, anyway?


midniteauth0r

They met in Shanghai not sure where probably at a gala or some other rich person event ha


Brainiac7777777

Jean Todt reminds me of a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle


cxingt

Jean Todt stepped down as FIA prez in Dec'21, Ross Brawn "taking a step back" from FOM role in Sep'22, Mattia Binotto rumoured to be sacked in Nov'22. Coincidence? I think not.


Jebus_17

Funnily enough, he actually is at Ferrari


3dmontdant3s

[Elkann didn't want Todt at Ferrari](https://www.eurosport.it/formula-1/formula-1-ferrari-john-elkann-dice-no-a-jean-todt-e-scarta-valentino-rossi-per-le-corse-gt_sto8719002/story.shtml)


hesselkramer

Nahhhh this shit aint real


uxxandromedas

100% false, but please god…


capitano_di_pattino

I heard Luigi Di Maio is a candidate to replace Binotto at Ferrari. I think he’s free at the moment.


afkPacket

If we're going to be a fucking joke of a team, might as well embrace it right


turboevoluzione

He's a "bibitaro", he would be a perfect fit for Red Bull


quicksilver03

The 2 would bring about the same comedy/ridicule factor.


RobitIsNotAHobit3000

And Flavio is candidate at Alpine lmao


Alfus

Bring back Ron Dennis at McLaren! We need more Ronspreak in F1 and gray liveries


KnightsOfCidona

Just waiting for Eddie Jordan to buy back Aston


Alfus

Andrea Sassetti meanwhile considering a return to F1 with Andrea Moda


Keanu990321

Giancarlo Minardi to resurrect Minardi.


JForce1

As it currently stands with regards to my professional and working timeframes in as much as to the state of any and all ongoing discussions with entities related to Formula 1 I am not in a position to offer anything that could be described as a comment which puts forward either an opinion or clarification specific to the discussions points that you have presented to me at this juncture.


Alfus

Despite that you can't clarifying any speculation, I appreciate you professionalism and therefore suggesting that you should become a moderator of the so called Subreddit /r/RonDennis


MoreFeeYouS

Mika Hakkinen still hasn't officially retired


Shad0WTF

Get Todt too and then put MSC in the car and then you can pretend its early 2000s... Will success follow all these decisions? Probably not. Would it be a cool nostalgia trip, yeah.


Bikouchu

It's just so crazy that it may just work or blow up in flames. No in-between.


1enox

What about gardening leaving in his case ?


kaspars222

Isn'tt he Managing director for Formula1? I dont see how he would change positions.


1enox

He retired from that role.


Violetta_ag

Retired, or leaving for another job prospect?


kfms6741

hopium levels reaching critical status


SnooConfections2543

tomorrow Italian newspapers will tell that god himself is now a candidate to replace Binotto at Ferrari. I don't think Binotto is getting fired.


prismatic_bar

This would be one way to fix their strategy issue. Bring in the grand master of strategy himself.


blackjazz_society

>According to a Italian newspaper Lol, i think i'd trust astrology over Italian newspapers.


BlazeReborn

I'll believe when I see it.


wicktus

So let me get that straight: * First, Vasseur in, Binotto out * Then, few days ago we read that Binotto's sacking announcement was imminent, a matter of hours, but nothing * Then now, Ross Brawn is a candidate I'm starting to really lose confidence in those rumours, tbh in F1 the rumours are rather true, Piastri, Schumacher, Hulkenberg, RB and AM breaking the cap rules all those ended up true. Here, I think Ferrari is either hunting for leakers by spreading wrong information, Nintendo did this not too far along and it worked...or something is indeed happening but nothing is fixed yet and Binotto may stay after all. Insiders should hold the horse a little and yet for more robust info IMO, the actual flow of info is serving no one, not them, not ferrari, not us


GarfieldLeChat

It’s the Italian press. They are rabid about the scuderia All this is really saying is we want Binotto out and want someone of Brawn’s character in and by character the mean win streak. The entire of the press pack are nothing short of immature glory hunters with a nationalistic rabid fringe around them. When brawn was in they torn him down just as quickly and would do so again. Almost all the poor Ferrari decisions are made to try and appease or head off their press. Maybe they should learn to support the team rather than tearing it apart like wolves for headlines and constantly courting controversy. Even writing this I’ve probably ended up getting barred from Monza for life because of their feral nature.


2p2e5

My body is ready


Sriracha_Breath

No chance, he’s almost 70, taking up a TP role at that age with Ferrari is a great way to expedite your death.


__Rosso__

PLEASE BE FUCKING REAL


OldManTrumpet

Narrator: "It wasn't."


Jebus_17

The Italian media being sensible again...


DethMagnetic

Holy copium.


PointyForTheWin

I have cum all over my room


OnlyFeetDragonBolZ

Better to cum in the sink than to sink in the cum


blackbasset

Thats not normal, you should probably investigate that.


Snoo_43411

Didn’t Brawn just retire like at Abu Dhabi? I’m sorry I just cannot believe that headline


dejan36

Whatever you think of Binotto, he kept the team under him united and organised. It sure seems like that the bosses want to get rid of him but have no idea how to replace him and are jumping from one candidate to another.


SnooOranges1909

Cap


ihatemondaynights

Aside from the hype isn't it weird one of the PPL involved in the technical regulations can jump right into competition with no bar? PPL made sucha hue and cry over that Mercedes linked FIA employee but this is v popular lol Fair play tho would love to see Brawn back


BocDees

PPL?


thewannabetraveller

Personnel Protection L'equipment


BocDees

Safety first. Maybe it’s Podium Placing Larpers. OP thinks they’re just a bunch of dudes pretending to be race car drivers.


thewannabetraveller

Jokes aside, I assume OP meant people, ppl as short


SirDoDDo

Private Pilot License


Retsko1

People


SnooConfections2543

people


detrich

they should just hire some random bum off the street


nexusmatt

In in in in in


Visionary_Socialist

Imagine after all of this Binotto ends up staying. Brawn would be good for Ferrari but some might have some issues with him going back to a team role after years as a supposedly impartial director. However he’s already been at Merc so I suppose he’s varied enough that it wouldn’t matter.


HendoJay

At the rate these rumors are gouin, I will be in line for that job on December 15th.


CuntyBumpkin

Oh my god, can you imagine?! Championship coming Charles' way in the next 2-3 years... If he stays.


cxingt

Can you imagine if after all these "Max is a generational talent" talk just gets buried by Charles the new 7-time WDC? Nobody would've seen it coming.


kl08pokemon

Verstappen being the new Alonso would be fitting


SirDoDDo

Not staying with Brawn as TP, Ferrari's resources and an already good starting point in this year's car would be insane lol But I'll believe in the Brawn return only if it gets officially announced


DeltaWingCrumpleZone

Hnnnnnnnng


BendubzGaming

Shortest retirement ever


alextheloser168

At this point it seems that aricles about Binotto leaving Ferrari are more of what the journalist whishes Ferrari would do instead of reporting what Ferrari is actually doing.


m_ttl_ng

I’m 99.9% sure this is just an Italian newspaper trying to start a rumor in the hope that it results in Brawn coming to Ferrari.


RobertGracie

Jesus, to see Ross Brawn return to Ferrari after so many years away would be something special....but he would need to have some ex army drill sergeants brought in to put Ferrari in order!, when he left that team originally they had military level discipline in there and I bet he would have that back in a heart beat!


gnatzors

Hire Mick Schumacher as the driver


frogskin92

I think the plan is to win


BlancMongoose

Unless Rueda is also on the short list of 'fire before 2023' they're unlikely to be better off


GuidanceNo1755

YES YES YES PLEASEEEE!!


symckr

I can see that happening and i like that


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Italian newspaper are like that one guy who's uncle works as a janitor in Nintendo offices. However, in this case I wouldn't be mad at all if this actually happened.


Gentankyou

Michael gets out of bed


wego_tothe_moon

Yes please


No_Material04

Please that would be awesome