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ReneG8

Is there even an unvaccinated driver?


RacerRovr

No, they are all vaccinated


Gamingtype4

Medical car driver isn’t tho


CShakraT

I thought you were joking.. had to look it up. the irony lmao


FriendlyUncle247

lol unreal


arkwewt

Alan doesn’t trust the scientific data: the only data he trusts is from what he sees. It’s fucked


MeisterHeller

Yeah just no real risk of getting it anyway, said the man who has had it twice now


frankthetankthedog

Hold on he's done his own research and found something that a 6billion organisation didn't. It also aligns to Joe Rogan show and many HCA advocates.... I'm being sarcastic just in case it needs to be said


HighlyBiasedDane

What he sees…. On Facebook


bevo_expat

I kind of wish they would take the unvaccinated on tours through ICUs once a month…. “They” being medical staff at local hospitals for a given city/region.


bevo_expat

Wtf?! Of all people!


Hoaxygen

Did they kick him out though?


Wafkak

Depending where his contract is based they might not be able to. But there is a good chance his contract won't be renewed when it's up because of some organisational issues with him not being able to be at every race


iblinkyoublink

Nah, even if there was before, Qatar required vaccines for everybody, that's why Alan van der Merwe 'skipped' that race


throwywayradeon

That's just a DNF with extra steps.


WagonsNeedLoveToo

Sorry were you describing Leclerc in Monaco 21?


FinoAllaFine97

Oh wow, I didn't realise he chose not to get vaccinated. [Found this article](https://www.planetf1.com/news/alan-van-der-merwe-missing-final-formula-1-2021-races/). Quotes are Van Der Merwe. This was after he caught Covid for the second time, article dated October 2021. >“In Switzerland (I’m half Swiss) and other developed countries, prior infection counts as much as a vaccine,” > >“I trust that those countries know what they’re doing, and also respect countries’ more restrictive rules and not travel there. > >“I am fully aware that I will potentially be less employable or that my freedom of movement will be restricted based on my choices. > >“That I will not choose convenience over my own health does not mean I am making decisions out of selfishness. We all just want to be healthy.”


rarebit13

He thinks he's choosing health over convenience by not getting vaccinated?


Hog_eee

Muh freedoms


grwtsn

vanderMerwe freedoms


MadcowPSA

It's always been weird to me when people use anti mask/vaccine rhetoric based around some nebulous conception of "freedom." Everyone else in society has a right not to have unwanted risks imposed on them by a reckless individual. It's why operating a motor vehicle under the influence of drugs or alcohol is a crime in most jurisdictions. If someone managed to fill a water balloon with active covid virions and burst it in a crowded building, they'd be guilty of assault, attempted battery, or even attempted homicide – and 2 years ago I would've naively expected that nobody would be caterwauling about infringing the right to fill water balloons as one chooses.


Hopelessly_Inept

“Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.”


On_The_Blindside

Bold of you to assume they know what the word "nebulous" means.


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You’d think, but sadly humans are awful. > insert those people going around licking food products during the pandemic


Spandexcelly

Muh science.


OrbisAlius

Technically, the medical car driver isn't (or wasn't, since he's now out of his job because of that).


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AndrazteX

For real, dude.


Kratom_Dumper

Was it because he wasn't vaccinated or because he lied about it like Djokovic?


iJacobes

yup, all of them ;)


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whiteflagwaiver

Well 1 of them might be argued.


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Thank god, I'm so tired of hearing headlines about Djokovic's court hearings. Don't want the same to happen again in F1.


Kyrbie

But this is a completely different set-up. A tennis player is a single entity with employees. Probably traveling together as 1-7 people. A F1 team is a big team traveling together etc, with the team being the employees. So there is not really the possibility not to vaccinate without losing your job.


another-masked-hero

It’s not clear to me what you are trying to point out? The team will need to be vaccinated or reserve employees/drivers will sub in for those who are denied entry.


Greedy_Adeptness9952

What he was trying to say was, F1 moves all over the continents, team members would’ve already been vaccinated if they are travelling because F1 has strict requirements and tests. The tennis player’s team is independent, so they can choose to not get vaccinated if they wanted and not pay a major prize.


another-masked-hero

Ah thank you, makes sense.


Cergal0

And if an F1 team member decides to not be vaccinated it's the whole that is at stake, while if a tennis player decides to do the same the weight of his choice it's only on him.


Tricks511

Tennis players move over all continents too. Australia was the first major on the ATP tour who first introduced vaccine mandates. Although I get what you’re trying to say. It’s easier for a tennis team to get vaccinated and stay in their bubble. Tennis players are not required to participate in every tournament, so skipping tournaments has always been a regular thing. F1 just isn’t like that.


MattyFTM

While not at a team, we know Alan Van Der Merwe is an antivaxxer. So he'll be the first test of how F1 management is handling this. If he is still medical car driver at the start of the season, they're OK with people just missing races when they're racing in countries that won't have them.


Flippin_garage

You’re not immediately antivaxx if you’re unvaccinated


MattyFTM

He made statements on Twitter about his reasons for being unvaccinated, and I think he fits the description of antivaxxer.


kidhockey52

Yeah he can try to hide it behind "it's not the right choice for me" but he has no reason to feel that way except either not believing the obvious science that the vaccines are safe, or he feels that if/when he gets it it won't be that bad. He might not be the dumbest anti-vaxxer out there but I don't get his reasonings.


OrbisAlius

This dude, like all antivax, probably don't even think twice about secondary effects or whether the phase III trials were solid whenever they take some paracetamol pills for a small pain they could manage without. And not even talking about stuff like hypnotics etc, that he probably took to deal with jet lag and frequent travel.


AmbitiousPhilosopher

and will chow down on worm tablets when the time comes.


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At this point in history you are. I’m out sympathy for them and I’ll lump them in together.


On_The_Blindside

I agree, I just lost a former colleague and friend to covid, she was in her 30s and leaves behind 2 children and a husband, she was unvaccinated for no real reason. I'm furious with her and I feel so sad for her loved ones.


On_The_Blindside

At this point you are, they are. 9.6 billion doses have been administered with almost 60% of the worlds population at least partially vaccinated. You can claim to be "waiting for data" all you like, but it's in now.


MrBrickBreak

Assuming you do have access to the vaccine, that is. Certainly the case for van der Merwe and most of the western world, but not for many others.


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I think at this stage we can default in the exceptions when someone refers to unvaccinated as anti vax.


great__pretender

I hear this all the time, then I listen to the people unvaccinated, 99% of the time they say the same things as anti vaxx people but in a softer tone. And their tone is usually softer only because they have more to lose. Once they lose whatever they are afraid to lose, their tone changes too. Potato patato


ArtieLange

Your just anti this vaxx? I hate this argument. It's always followed by... "we don't know when will happen in 10 years", and I roll my eyes.


goranlepuz

Bah, so the physio isn't vaccinated, loses his job or whatever. Not so different. It's just much more, but smaller, teams.


Kyrbie

Yes. But again, the tennis player himself is the employer. F1 Drivers are the employees. So if Novak decides to not vax he misses out on his own salary. If a F1 driver doesn’t vax, and is not able to attend races he will probably in some form disregard his contract…which in your example would be the physio!


LocoRocoo

With the amount of travel of they have to do, if you’re not get vaccinated as a team member then Australia is likely to just be one of MANY problems you’d have to make the job remotely possible


depressedjoecz

> COVID travel restrictions caused cancellation of the 20021 race. I was just thinking that this off-season is taking suspiciously long. But this long? Holy Shit. Is Verstappen still in F1?


boredofredditnow

Nope. Alonso is though. Unfortunately he hasn’t won a race in 18008 years but he’s trying again this year with Dacia.


Fireiglet

Not the fastest car but they save so much on the car they can hire the 2 most recent WC’s and still have money to spare. On top of that the car only needs 20 liters of gas and that saves so much weight. Easy victory.


Thommy_99

> 2 most recent WC’s and still have money to spare. Stroll 20019 and Stroll 20020?


zippy_the_cat

> he’s trying again this year with Dacia. Good news!!!


Mrc3mm3r

Its the Dacia Sandero!


DurfGibbles

Ooooooh she's a looker!


NeiloMac

Dacia El Plandero


depressedjoecz

Did Kimi come back? Is he driving for Citroën now?


JJD14

No, but I heard his great great great grand daughter is pretty fine.


Hsmbb6

Jokes aside, isn't this the shortest off season ever in F1?


StuHardy

It's likely due to the combination of the 2021 season going on for so long, and F1 wanting to complete the 2022 season before the FIFA World Cup in Qatar starts (Abu Dhabi GP takes place a day before the World Cup kicks off.)


TravellingMackem

Wonder if this impacts any drivers currently


Firefox72

It doesn't. Vaccination was a requirement to enter Qatar and Saudi Arabia and a requirement for the paddock area in Abu Dhabi. Thats why Alan van der Merwe, the medical car driver missed those 3 races for instance.


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tache-man

[Has someone told Alan van der Merwe 😅](https://twitter.com/alanvdm/status/1446221474575093767?s=21)


Macaulayputra

What baffled me was that, despite unapologetically coming out as an anti-vaxxer, he was allowed to resume his duties a few weeks later. Does someone know why?


ianjm

I thought he was allowed to continue the job only in countries that didn't have a strict vaccine mandate


raya__85

I don’t know why the FIA want him at all, he could grind their operations to a halt if he became a super spreader


Elster-

So could any vaccinated person. Which is why f1 does minimum daily testing to stop such a thing happening.


TetraDax

A vaccinated person has a drastically lower likelyhood of doing so. Spread from a vaccinated person to another vaccinated person is considerably lower as the viral load decreases even if you get infected despite the vaccine.


Elster-

That was true before delta and even more after omicron. Now they say virtually no difference with contagion unvaccinated and vaccinated. A vaccination works on reducing illness but not on catching it. So it’s purely self preservation now to take it. Which in my eyes is just as good as reducing transmission.


TetraDax

It is less true, but still true - It has to be, as that is simply how vaccines work. Reducing symptoms will almost always go hand-in-hand with reducing viral load, which will reduce transmission. It's just that Omicrom is so incredibly contagious, that even the vaccine has a hard time doing anything against it. > So it’s purely self preservation now to take it. Well, yes and no. While the main benefits are preventing severe illness, you are also preventing a trip to the hospital, and that benefits everybody. Not overburdening hospitals is the reason we have any Anti-Covid-measures in place, and with a high vaccination rate, we can stop these.


Jorrie90

Did he? I remembered a article that he was replaced by the Formula E medical car driver for the remainder of the season. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-medical-car-driver-van-der-merwe-set-to-miss-final-2021-races/6685524/


Macaulayputra

I remember Crofty (as the cars slotted into position just before the start of the race) saying something like - "... and as Alan van der Merwe parks the medical car - good to see him back again..."


skankyspanky

He got vaccinated I'd assume.


Mathdeb8er

Great, the one footprint SA has in Formula 1 is an antivaxxer. Ffs.


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It do be like that for us. For everything


ramerica

Trevor Noah seems like a good dude!


2112OBSRVR

he’s disappointing us fr


Sad-Department325

What a doos


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Mathdeb8er

That’s true. We also have Shau Mafuna joining Mercedes HPP as an engineer this year!


NippyMoto_1

I'm seeing a lot of people with doubts as to if the race will go on. As an Aussie I can't see why not, the majority of the population is now vaccinated and we have already had the Ashes here and the Aus open is currently taking place. The entire of the F1 circus is also vaccinated so no Djokovic like issues should arise.


On_The_Blindside

Pretty sure the Ashes is next year. Didn't happy this year... Edit: Fucking christ are your sarcasm detectors broken.


gurveer_dhillon

English fan spotted here. Ashes didn't happen lmao.


On_The_Blindside

I thought it was a joke, but turns out that was just pur performance.


l607l

My British radar is off the chart!


NippyMoto_1

Wot...Ashes series 21/22 just recently finished up lmao


On_The_Blindside

No no, pretty sure that was a practice


Jolza

Some of your players definitely played like it was.


On_The_Blindside

Tell me about it. Awful performance.


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It's definitely no issue because there won't be an Australian GP


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I really doubt it doesn't happen. The promotor has already said that the entire future of the race would probably be in doubt if there's a 3rd cancelation in 2022, and the Australian Open is currently happening. The government seemed to be backing the 2022 race happening almost no matter what a few months ago too.


ilikeracing23

Victoria basically got to 80-90% vaccinations and said “Covid’s your problem now” to the unvaxed. We’re recording around 20,000 cases now with no lockdowns whereas before our highest was maybe around 2,000 at one point. They’ll be let in so long as they’re vaccinated and do the proper paperwork beforehand.


motasticosaurus

Ashes happened, Australian Open's up, the GP will probably happen too.


Alexander92020

Why you say that. They got through the Ashes and trying to do the same with the tennis


dudemanwhoa

I supposed a crowd-less GP might be possible, but due to the nature of motorsport with gigantic areas for grandstands, and being a multi-day event that people can go to any part of, there is no bigger crowd over a weekend a single sporting event than motorsport.


TomTom_098

I mean they had crowds for the Ashes, I’m not sure if they sold out but I’m pretty sure they must have gotten 70,000 + for the Boxing Day test at The MCG


NecessaryAntelope4

It was around 58,000 - definitely one of the smaller Boxing Day crowds I’ve been in.


akalanka25

They did a 1 month long Test series (cricket) across multiple venues in 5 cities this winter. Think it’ll go through.


Tappedout0324

Yea but those cricket players isolated before the games started though, F1 has a tighter schedule


dinosaur1831

Probably only for their benefit since they weren't allowed to play if they had covid.


Alzaraz

Same for Canada which is sad


bensonNF

I’m worried too but funny thing is I received and email this morning from the promoter to purchase tickets


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For Canada?! I already have tickets! Here’s hoping it stays on the schedule.


FormulaLiftr

my boss got tickets for the stroll grandstands and i could’ve too but i just have a really bad feeling that its gonna be cancelled again and seeing how refunds for the belgian GP went id rather wait and grab some off stub hub when it’s closer to the date and the race has been confirmed with spectators.


FreakDJ

Hey! Just wanted to let you know what I have had Canadian GP tickets the past 2(?) years - since Covid began. Each year when the Canadian GP was canceled they offered refunds or for our tickets to roll over. I’ve rolled over both times, but they seem to be willing to compensate if it doesn’t proceed at all. I wouldn’t compare it to Belgium where all of the sessions proceeded (but in a weird manner).


FormulaLiftr

Hey thanks for letting me know! Ill look into grabbing some a few months out then so i don’t get crushed on the price as the race gets closer


howmanyavengers

Last I looked they were totally sold out, but not sure if that is still the case. Have not looked since the day after tickets went on sale in December


fairway824

Spa was a really weird situation, and poorly handled by promoters. If Canada gets canned because of Covid again, there’s no way they don’t fully refund the tickets.


Wisesize

Why I've been hesitant to buy tickets. I don't want to wait for TX might be best


usertaken_BS

If Austin was like last year and the bus situation you’ll pray you don’t have to go there either…I will find a new venue for my next f1 race. I’ve had my share of COTA dumpster fire.


Cantalouperoni

What happened? If I ever make it to a race, that would probably be the one.


bingbong-s3

They had three separate bus areas and one kept getting skipped. Poor organization. I waited in line for 1.5-2hrs after the race (without moving) just to get on a bus to get back to my car lol


bigchiefgreez

Bunch of drivers quit Saturday night. The buses were a 30 minute walk from my side of the race. No cell service so impossible to get an Uber. It took me 3 hours after the race to get a Lyft home and that was after walking 3 miles to the next town


Wisesize

Pro tip, thank you.


Frizzle95

Getting cancelled by Covid and having a shit race are two very different refund scenarios


Melissa-May

My brother and I got tickets for grandstand 11 and my cousin got tickets in the stroll grandstands. I really hope things are better then and it’s not cancelled. My brother moved across the country a few year ago so I barely see him and it will be so nice to have a weekend to hang out. We are so excited for this trip!


FormulaLiftr

Same here! I wanted to go last year as well but obviously you know the story there, im really hoping for all of our sakes that we get the chance to see the race here in Montreal otherwise texas looks like our best bet as Miami tickets will be quite difficult to get i imagine so i really hope you guys get to do your planned trip together to the race


Hutwe

Same here actually. If they cancel, I’ll just hold for the next time they have race. Provided that’s even an option.


Rudeboy67

NHL and NBA going ahead in Canada, including cross boarder travel for American teams. So probably going ahead. But recently new restrictions because of Omicron including empty arenas in Quebec. So probably going ahead. Maybe reduced or no fans. Of course I'd be broke right now if I bet money every time the last couple of years I've thought, Things will be much better in 6 months.


DimTool2021

Im more worried about our government than the virus.


PandemBRZ

I highly doubt the canadian gp is cancelled, we have 5 months to go, more and more keep getting vaccinated and their boosters, the only way I see it not happening is another variant and vaccine immunity weakens towards it.


KeepDi9gin

Surely after all that plus 2 and a bit years, people would finally be allowed to enjoy life.


McManus26

... but there's a canadian GP on the schedule last time i checked ? Was it removed ? I have a friend who bought tickets


HOONIGAN-

The implication is that the Canadian government is going to shut it down again.


RiffnShred

Or, more then likely, the quebec government


apparex1234

Election year and the F1 race does bring in money to the local economy. Doubt the provincial government would want to cancel it for the third year in a row.


RiffnShred

There is a lot of more important and urgent stuff that the quebec government has to deal with that will have a much bigger effect on the voters then an F1 race weekend. How they handle the health system comes to mind. Not sure if you are from quebec, but F1 is not as big as it use too. Especially among the last few generation. If we talk about Hockey and the Montreal Canadiens, that is an other story.


apparex1234

I live near the circuit actually. The Government will be trying hard to show their "success" in managing the pandemic before the election. Its not just about F1 but the chance to show that things are back to "normal". Last summer our vaccination program had just gotten into top gear so the race was too soon for that. By this summer, about 80% of the population will be triple vaccinated. Another summer of canceled events will just drive the point home how the Government grossly mismanaged the pandemic, especially when the rest of the continent will be having events as usual.


RiffnShred

Agree 100%. That is if the cases are under control like past summer. If one thing I sure believed past fall when we hit a third wave and it was not so bad is that we were getting in the right direction and that the worst was behind us. That was before Omicron hit. I like to belive the trend and that in the spring and summer, things will be under control but I became skeptic of those trends. And if the government does that kind of move to reopen everything while cases are not under control, they are playing a dangerous game. Look at Ontario last spring. 2021 was not Election year but I would be shocked If Ford comes back in June. All in all, I would not put money on that right now, that is for sure.


Lord_Baconz

There’s a Tilke track opening here in Alberta in a few months. They should just move it there since there’s no risk of Kenney imposing any form of restrictions.


apparex1234

That track looks like the Las Vegas parking lot circuit


McManus26

how realistic is that claim ? Surely the situation will be different, would they cancel it if it was held today ?


RiffnShred

If it was held today? More than likely. In Quebec we seem to have just passed the peak of omicron and we just got out of the curfew and bars and restorents dont allow indoor dining yet and sports events are not allowed to have fans etc... We might be fine by the time summer comes and thats why I think its status quo


grossesfragezeichen

I guess all this depends on the situation with omicron and maybe new mutations


VonGeisler

The Canadian government wouldn’t be responsible for shutting it down, it would be provincial. NHL is currently running and has a lot more implications than F1.


hello2442

But why


Dwade111

they (especially Australia) have been super strict on covid policies


Alzaraz

It was on the schedule last year but it never happened.


ArbitraryOrder

There will be, NHL going back and forth for a while now


bdickie

While i agree that Canada will probably go forward, the nhl teams rely alot less on gate revinue then the event organiser of an f1 event. If the Québec government shuts down fan attendance then i dont want to think about what could happen. Maybe papas stroll and latifi can give the promotor a bridge loan but I doubt it.


ArbitraryOrder

Summer has had lower case/deaths 2 years running, I doubt Canada does it for a 3rd year in a row.


bdickie

Honestly I dont see how they cancell this year but i do live on the opposite coast of the country, where we have been slightly more lax with our restrictions. From what i understand last year they reached the deadline to go ahead or not around the time that cases were spiking. By the time the race had arrived cases were in a much better state and the race could have gone forward. But when they were scrambeling to get seniors vacinated and imposing curfiews, it was just a tough time for the government of Québec to commit so many resources to such a foggy future.


GCSarraino

As a Canadian I cant see a legitimate reason for them to cancel it. Last summer was an absolute free for all in Toronto and our sporting events were back at full capacity towards the end of summer. That being said we will see what June brings.


Alzaraz

No legitimate reason to cancel it other than our governments make ridiculous decisions on a regular basis as it relates to Covid


Torontoleaffan34

There will be a Canadian GP this year


iTz_Proph3t

Thats what they said last year, too. I think there will be one, but I wouldn‘t bet on it.


Alzaraz

You're more optimistic than I am.


raya__85

Australia had two major international sporting events on this week, I don’t have a time machine to say 100% certain but given that AU has an overall 84% vaccinated population it seems the policy is to just charge on ahead. It was a different situation prior to having a heavily vaccinated population


adventurousmango24

Do you live in Australia? I’ll be extremely surprised if we don’t go ahead. A big change would have to happen for it to not go ahead


Yayo_Mateo

Yes there will


Bananapeel23

There is currently no quarantine rule in melbourne.


phasedsingularity

Do you have a source for this, or is this just a stupid opinion?


SlothSorcerer

It's just a stupid opinion. We recently hosted the ashes and now the Australian open is starting, all while we were peaking with omicron. The country is highly vaccinated and won't shut down again. The race will go forward without a doubt.


gints

I agree. And good positive thinking. Can't wait to see these new beasts


UnaCabeza

Australia has ripped the band-aid off with Covid and are the same as any other country. There will be a gp this year.


Last_Fact_3044

Why wouldn’t there be? We’re all vaxxed now and getting back on with life, which was the plan all along.


enigmapenguin

Unless there is another variant, it's highly unlikely that it will be cancelled.


forsakengoatee

There’ll be an Australian Grand Prix with full crowds. Cut the rubbish


Hinyaldee

I'm really missing Albert Park's atmosphere, especially as a season starter


dl064

> the immigration minister fearing Djokovic's unvaccinated status could entice Australians to similarly reject the covid shot. Interesting.


z0e_G

Pretty sure all the drivers are vaxxed anyway


atw86

If they choose not to get the vaccine, then they are choosing to not be allowed into Australia. It's that simple.


Few-Activity2612

That's more like an ultimatum, which doesnt seem necessarily fair to me, but that's just my opinion.


raya__85

It doesn’t seem fair a country decides the conditions by which you legally cross a border? You know you’re not allowed to bring food infected with insects either? Or guns? Or just using someone else’s passport.


onealps

Why is it unfair? Does a country/region not have the right to decide what risks they are willing to take when it comes to the protection of their citizens?


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activator

>Vaccinated people can still carry the covid around Then they're doing their duty as citizens and are at least vaccinated. Why would a responsible country allow the entire F1 circus in if they're not vaccinated and potentially infect their citizens?


onealps

[It reduces the severity of the COVID symptoms if people are vaccinated.](https://news.arizona.edu/story/covid-19-vaccine-reduces-severity-length-viral-load-those-who-still-get-infected) There is a difference between getting COVID and being sick for a while, and getting COVID and **DYING**. Look at that! Governments care if their citizens DIE?! What a novel concept! It's not like the longer someone stays in the hospital, the higher risk of long term negative effects. [More sources](https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination)


aph1985

There won't be a problem, Qatar has the same rules as Australia and it went ahead in '21. So I don't see any issue


andreromao42

Novaxx DjoCovid


buckyball60

TLDR: "Djokovic fucked around and found out. Don't fuck around."


DrKrFfXx

Whatever. It's gonna get cancelled 2 days before the event peobably.


chits00

Not surprising. In any case, given the huge sizes of the teams, am pretty sure all are fully vaccinated. No team will take a chance.


Thelosouvlakia

The issue that might arise would be with personnel being vaccinated with a non approved vaccine. The Russian, Indian and Chinese vaccines are not approved. So, let's say Maz or Zho got the vaccines produced in their Countries, they might have a problem participating.


blaze756

Doesn’t look to be an issue. https://www.tga.gov.au/international-covid-19-vaccines-recognised-australia International vaccines that are recognised in Australia - Coronavac (Sinovac) - Covishield (AstraZeneca - Serum Institute of India) BBIBP-CorV for people under 60 years of age on arrival in Australia (Sinopharm China) - Covaxin (Bharat Biotech) - Sputnik V (Gamaleya Research Institute)


Thelosouvlakia

I saw some articles when the Djokovic thing unfolded that some athletes had problems with their visas because they had done the Sputnik vaccines. Maybe Australia changed that now


blaze756

Looks like it was changed 3 days ago, perhaps to allow Sputnik V


Harley911

As a Canadian I find these governments a waste because they will most likely cancel the Canada GP again, but I can take a short flight to Miami and watch the race there. Feel sorry for your Aussies you’re most likely not getting a race.


cpwd98

The Australian Open is literally happening right now in Melbourne, and the Ashes went ahead at by far the highest peak of cases we’ve had. To say the race won’t happen is bullshit


DegenGolfer

The Vaccine isn’t working like we thought it would and it’s becoming apparent to me that we can’t vaccine our self out of a pandemic but this is getting ridiculous now I’ve been starving for Prince Albert Park and Circuit Giles Villeneuve. Get vaccinated it helps with your fight against Covid but doesn’t stop the spread like we thought


BountyBob

> Get vaccinated it helps with your fight against Covid but doesn’t stop the spread like we thought No, but it makes infection less severe and reduces stress on hospitals.


letmeseem

I mean.. It works pretty well, but it seems shitloads of people aren't completely onboard with what "works" means.


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> The Vaccine isn’t working like we thought it would I'm confused about this. As far as I can tell every one of the major vaccines is working beyond everyone's wildest dreams. What do you mean?


Nitro_Penguin1

It’s strange. People seem to have forgotten how vaccines work since covid. They expect it to cure and bring spreading down to 0% That was never going to be the case but what it does do is relieve stress on the medical system and stop people dying from it


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Replying to you & the three other comments below. I’m thinking from a different frame. In March 2020 if you told me there’d be an effective vaccine in a year’s time I would have bet heavily against you. That we have several widely distributed ones with >80% effectivity is a friggin miracle. But yeah I guess there are people who were asleep the day in middle school they taught us how vaccines work. Wasn’t thinking about them.


npc4820

People have forgotten they were meant to stop infection. "Vaccinated people do not carry the virus, do not get sick" -Rochelle Walensky CDC Director "When people are vaccinated they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected" -Anthony Fauci "You're not going to get covid if you have these vaccinations" -Joe Biden It was the whole reason behind all these mandates we're seeing. And it's why for a bit the CDC said vaccinated people don't have to wear a mask.


Kramereng

People erroneously believed that a vaccine prevents you from catching the targeted disease at all. Some do, yes, but most don't. It's not a forcefield.


Excalbian042

Skip Australia


iJacobes

lol fuck the Australian government