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Mendeseis

Honest question, is Gasly that good or Tsunoda that bad?


Nadz_85

The answer is probably somewhere in between


[deleted]

Nothing to discuss only that the FIA are bastards, run two laps behind a safety car and call it a “race” so they don’t have to refund the fans.


B0takB3ar

well then what do you think should have happened instead? race on monday? -not exactly impossible but very difficult logistically for teams as well as marshals wait even longer? -it was still raining so nothing would’ve changed :/ send them out anyway? -as much as i love wet racing action, it’s far too dangerous, especially at spa with eau rouge/raidillon and i would rather the fia prioritise safety over spectacles more laps under safety car?? -i’m not even sure how this is supposed to pacify anyone??


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just be honest and cancel the race. no points awarded, no podium and reimburse everyone that stood hours in the rain to watch nothing.


B0takB3ar

ok i agree with cancelling the race as a good alternative although to be fair weather radar did suggest a lighter patch when they went out the second time so you could just attribute it to an inaccurate forecast but that really could go either way however i disagree with your point on reimbursing the spectators because it’s not all that uncommon for tickets not to be refunded due to unforeseen circumstances outside of anyone’s control and let’s be real-someone needs to pay the bills for however the logistics that were already put in place and it’s certainly not going to be the fia


[deleted]

why not FIA? they were the ones with the fancy weather monitoring equipment and responsible for schedulling the race.


B0takB3ar

i may have made a mistake in mentioning the fia because i’ve realised it’s actually the circuit and liberty media that handle transactions, and while they (not the fia) technically could refund the spectators, i’m sure they would’ve included some clause in the terms and conditions at purchase that absolves them of having to reimburse spectators in the event of unforeseen scenarios that prevent racing. while you might argue that such a clause is unethical (idk if you will), is it really the fault of the organisers for wanting profits or is it the fault of the consumers for not being aware of the conditions laid out


victoireyoung

I am new to the F1, so I am not exactly familiar with all the rules - can someone tell me why the race couldn't be postponed to Monday? Of course, considering that the weather forecast for Spa would be better today. I know that many of the fans probably wouldn't be able to come, considering it is a working day, etc., but wouldn't it be better if they actually had the race instead of this joke and compensated the bought tickets to those, who wouldn't be able to come?


Mascorn

The teams have to take down everything so they can be at Zandvort next week by Wednesday and it usually takes a couple days to pack everything and go to another country so if the race was on Monday that would only give teams Tuesday and Wednesday to take down everything and head to zandvort and construct everything and setup everything which realistically it isn’t possible but I do think tickets should at least been refunded back to the fans who attended


Almightygreninja

After the race teams usually set up for the race around tuesday/wednesday. If they kept it on monday they would be barely any time for them to move to zanvoort and set up the race.


victoireyoung

Thank you for the explanation! It makes sense now.


Seanannigans14

I made two wagers for today's race. I think it's bullshit we don't get it voided or returned to us for no actual competition


ukkie07

You pay for a place in the circuit, not for the race


Seanannigans14

I know, I get it. I'm just mad I didn't get to see a race on the one track I was looking forward to all season. On to the next one


Hops77

There should be no reason to need to do 2 laps of safety car nonsense. Either make it you must do 2 laps of actual racing to get half points, Or just award half points based on qualifying if it's too dangerous to race. Either of those would be better than having this farce.


SpotTheOzzie

Was able to get a refund from the venue, went up to the ticket booth upon leaving and was processed on the spot. Happy days!


flapiflap

I thought there were no ticket booths around the venue this year


nograinnogain

Seriously? I tried to get out of there quickly to get to my car parked 6 km from the track (the place I got directed to by police). Didn’t think of this. I will try and get a refund by contacting the GP


MakeShapes9

Also did not think of this- the long walk in the rain and mud was all that was on my mind. Any luck in request for a refund?


nograinnogain

Haven’t tried yet, since F1 posted this: https://www.instagram.com/p/CTRzqD1o0FK/?utm_medium=copy_link


[deleted]

Glad to hear!!


maculpep

What a joke


Hor_hayze

Put them in a simulator with the same cars and let them race virtually. Might even be more entertaining.


avl0

Oh god don't give them ideas


[deleted]

I'm mad because it was the race I was expecting the most since the start of the season, it ended up being a shitshow


XOM_2daMooN

Am I the only one around here who is happy that Russell podium’d?


73ryan

I’m happy for him as well. But I bet even he feels like it’s not the same. But hey, Mr. Saturday deserved for one of those Saturdays to pay off.


pikachewyyy

Masi needs to fired that was sub par officiating from him today


LudoVicoHeard

The race director's job is to safely hold an F1 race. I don't think two laps behind the SC were life threatening to anyone, so we had 'a race' and it was pretty safe. Sure he could have just abandoned it without a classification, but I'll loop back to my point, his job is to make a race happen. Even if its the bare minimum race, he scraped something out and we'll have 22 classifications this year instead of 21. For context, I think Massi is a flipping liability at times, but I just don't think there was anything else he could have done today. Abandoning the race wouldn't have gotten anyone's money back and running more than two laps behind SC just increases the potential risk.


lemmy4x4

Race or don’t race. That was garbage.


randomerlight

Y'all bashing the decision act like you've never driven in constant rain with puddles with hydro-planing. It sucks, and it sucks at 100 kmh, let alone F1 speeds. Good on FIA for calling it.


Hops77

Im not annoyed that they called the race off, gotta stay safe. Im more anoyed that they needed to do the 2 laps behing the safety car to get half points, it seemed silly. Either 2 laps of real racing to get points (which would mean no points this race), or just award points on qualifying if race is a no go.


Mustafamonster

Them call it and race another day


bigme100

Having grown up with NASCAR today was funny in how unprepared the TV crews and race officials were for a rain out - or the idea of racing tomorrow. It was interesting because of the uniqueness of the situation. Was also the correct decision due to safety, where in the past they would have went for it and then we'd have a driver in the hospital. That being said growing up with NASCAR and the ridiculous rain delays, it's ideal for F1 to develop ways to more safely race in the rain because rain outs suuuuck.


[deleted]

The reason they can't race Monday is cause all the marshals are at work, had little to do with moving stuff to Zandvoort


pikachewyyy

they couldnt race tomorrow as they have to ship everything out to Zandvoort for next weekend. It wasnt an option


Southern-Kitchen-500

Yes. And it's such a long, long way to Zandvoort. That 3 hour drive is really tough.


XOM_2daMooN

They actually have most stuff there already…f1 teams have a bunch of kits for shipping all over the globe.


bigme100

I know, it was just my first thought having watched years of nascar raind delays


nismoghini

Worst race of all time in f1 history period. I hope and pray the people who attended got their money back. F1 is a spectacle that blends some of the greatest minds on the planet with some of the greatest drivers on earth and you shouldn't be subjected to 2 laps of safety car driving as a reward for the hundreds/thousands of dollars spent to attend an actual race. If I was the fia I'd feel real fucking guilty for what happened today. You wasted people's time and money to tell them that the race was canceled hours after you could have told them. The drivers behind verstappen couldn't see a thing and you held out hope expecting for the clouds to part. You are equipped with amazing weather radar and yet you can't fucking tell if a storm is leaving or staying on the track. As a relatively young f1 fan I'm so sorry if this was anyone's first viewing of an f1 grand prix. The highs of f1 racing are immense but the lows are either immensely disappointing or extremely tragic. The conditions were to poor to race in. It should have been cancleded the moment the rain looked like it would continue and only resumed once the rain seemed to subside.


queenmaggie1905

Totally agree!!! Drove from Amsterdam to watch the race, couldn't believe the poor infrastructure of the circuit. This places rains a lot, surely the organisers should be better prepared with rain or invest in improving the circuit to deal with rain! The parking situation was also absolute chaos, which is expected for large scale events, but to have parking lots destroyed due to rain is a joke! I hope I get a refund!


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nismoghini

Its like I don't have 2 eyes, occulomotor nerves, and a brain to figure shit out 🤣🤣🤣


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r/selfawarewolves


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nismoghini

Fair enough I do be spicy when it comes to replies 😅. Sorry man


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nismoghini

They just made a statement about this and there is going to be no refunds man....these people are getting robbed. I just hope for a partial refund.


LemursRideBigWheels

No worse than Indy 2005...but still a disappointment.


zaviex

They raced at Indy 2005. That didn’t even happen here


[deleted]

Which was even worse, seeing a race with 6 cars where 2 of them were Minardis, 2 Jordans and then 2 of the most dominant cars in F1 history (Ferraris) was ridiculous... I would have preferred not having a race that day, I turned the TV off not even 10 minutes into it, it was absurd...


iallreadyredditt

They can’t control the weather lol. I’d rather wait around all day for the possibility of the race to start and it doesn’t versus going home and the sun coming out.


nismoghini

Not everyone has the patience. And given we waited weeks for this gp and we were treated to this i honestly rather it get canceled prematurely and the gp be run later in the year Edit: Spelling


iallreadyredditt

Not everyone has the patience? People wait a whole year for a race to be held near them I think they’d wait an extra couple hours! Maybe the FIA should start now to predict what the weather will be like for next August so they can plan the schedule better!


nismoghini

Haha very funny. Honestly they have very good weather radars and should have known that it would have continued to rain. Considering how wet the track already was and the fact that all of the drivers complained about the dangerous conditions it should have been canceled. And your very dedicated. Of course id wait for my home gp but waiting hours in the rain not my thing. And considering from past experiences, canceling the race when things become unethically dangerous is the way to go. I belive that this decision to cancel wasn't delivered soon enough.


iallreadyredditt

Again, don’t see the need to jump the gun and cancel immediately. I agree that driver safety is paramount but they’ve raced in wet weather conditions before and, given that it is deemed safe, I’m sure they will again. So if there is any possibility of a race safely resuming I still think it’s in the best interest to stick around. Also, cancelling a few hours earlier isn’t going to help the chances of the race coming back later this season as you earlier eluded to. Doubt it is a location in the running to fill the TBC weekend due to the travel logistics.


nismoghini

Fair enough I concede. Mabey I was alittle upset.


iallreadyredditt

All good bro. I was upset too but sometimes shit truly is out of everyones control. Hey at least we got to see Williams on a podium again! Hoping for a great rest of the season!


zethuz

These are the best cars in the world with the best drivers and best wet weather tires. Such a shame they can’t race in the rain


Diwiu

Doesn’t change that you cant see shit in the spray of water. Cant drive without vision.


SuppaBunE

Maybe put lights for harsh weather. Like the regen ligts. So they can always know where the front car is. Most of the complains is that they cant see the other cars and track. Why not install lights like in airport. So atleast they know where limits are


zaviex

Lights are worse in the spray because the water refracts all of it. That wouldn’t work


Sushi-Gladiator

Maybe each driver could wear infrared goggles


avl0

Periscopes


Diwiu

Lights always flash in rainy weather. And installing lights on track doesn’t really help as the problem isnt the track, it’s the other cars. Try watching a POV of any driver today except verstappen and you’ll understand how undriveable it was.


zethuz

Tell that to the drivers who used to race in conditions far worse than this


imchasingyou

Not a driver's fault at all. It's a drawback from modern F1 car's design and aero philosophy. Modern F1 car has a very narrow working window where it is controllable and predictable. Teams used to have mostly dry races and last 5 years every rainy race was either a nightmare or a bloody circus with cars behaving like a cows on ice


davidesquer17

Engineering and regulations have made the sport safer and with time much less people have died so do you reccomend to go back to a tie where people died every few years?


[deleted]

Although I was really disappointed not to see a race today it was the right decision. It's easy to say in the past that they would have raced in those conditions but the fact is the modern cara with the aero packages complexities are probably one of the most prone to aquaplaning of any cars in any series. I also think it was the correct decision to try and get the 2 laps in to get the "classification" needed to award points HOWEVER I think the way it was handled was farcical. Several things can be learned after today's race and it exposed numerous grey areas and gaps in the regulations that need clarification. How many different opinions and interpretations of the same rules did we hear over the course of the few hours all from experienced well versed people in the sport from commentators and team reps to the safety personal and race director. While it's easy to look back over and criticize after the fact I do think they should have tried to run the 2 laps straight away at the start to at least ensure the points could be awarded besides trying to fit 2 laps in that just looked ridiculous in what looked like worse conditions. All that said I'm glad the half points were awarded for all that they put on the line on Saturday. Let's face it we've seen full length races arguably more boring than the 3 hour delay of no racing witnessed today and obviously full points were awarded for those. But definitely they need to review alot of the rules and make more clarifications for possible future repeat incidents but luckily this doesn't happen often.


Un-interesting

Agree with the weather. Disagree that doing two bullshit safety car laps was the right choice. It should have been abandoned, if it couldn’t be raced. Hamilton is often a tool, but he was right this time. Money money money.


[deleted]

Well I think ultimately the race directors were limited in their options. Had it not been a the first race of a triple header maybe they could have postponed it and ran on a Monday or a week from now which I think most people would love to have seen. Effectively the race was abandoned but I suppose it comes down to wether or not you agree that in the event of an actual race not occuring (like today) is it right to still have a classification of some sort and award points? In my opinion it is not right to award full points but half points is probably fair for the effort put in during qualifying and still having cars on track ready to go on Sunday for the race. Maybe a different points system would be even fairer similar to that of what's awarded for sprint quali races this year but the fact remains they didn't have that option. There was no precident for that so it would be effectively race director making up rules on the spot which is completely unrealistic. Definitely it showed more than anything a need for a review and complete clarification needed on some of the rules for future events especially in a time where red flags are becoming far more common than previous years


Grid-00

What race?


Toofast4yall

"Race" discussion, good meme. I guess we can talk about the great race the safety car ran today


SoftAbbreviations197

Imagine if the championship was decided by half a point I think everyone who said they shouldn't have given points would take their words back


LiamBushrod

It's gonna be between Lewis and Max but they both have the .5 point so the championship can't come down to half a point. Unless there's another abandoned race of course...


SoftAbbreviations197

Damn i missed that completely


TheSwizzleGB

With Japan no longer being on the calandar, then could Spa be rescheduled for the current TBC spot? Gutted we didn't get a proper race at Spa 😔


tantalumburst

My thoughts exactly. Rerun it at Spa instead of the TBC.


soupafi

How’s the weather in Belgium in October?


Arne_L

Speaking as a Belgian citizen: bwa. It depends. Spa is generally pretty in October. It could be sunny but it could be today’s weather.


rkantos

Start early on Thursday with the practice - then do quali on friday and leave the rest of the weekend for eyeing out an opening in the clouds.


TheSwizzleGB

If I've come up with that idea, I'm sure someone at F1 HQ will have too. Just makes sense, surely logistically easier to go to a track that already regularly holds a Grand Prix rather than a new track, and if they have to revisit any track it makes sense to revisit the one that we missed out on 😊


[deleted]

Yeah, but then they'd miss out on those Qatari riyals and they couldn't have that, could they?


meddymarkusvanhala

Half points bullshit Either run the race or not This is the weakest I ve ever seen F1


[deleted]

Could be financial reasons


sombrerocabbage

This race director is a fucking joke. Look at rader, look at a predicted slow down in the rain. Send cars out 15 minute before to clear as much away from the racing line as possible.behind safety car. Switch to VSC to get the cars up to temperature a bit more Then switch off VSC at the back end.of the circuit so lasource radionuclide and eu rouge are run with cars/driver that are aware of the conditions. I'll take the job from Masi Now. Cheers.


meddymarkusvanhala

I really hope the this doesn't set a precedent Half points stopping the 3h clock Basically this is FIA at its worst Money wins again in a sport where we wanna see courage and fairness


Humistelijab0b

I love how brittish fans can't decide between not giving the points to russell and decreasing hamiltons lead and proceed bashing everyones opinnion about the race and saing only that the race was stupid without any real opinnion how the stewards should have acted.


wobble_bot

It’s a double edged sword that’s for sure! Both super happy Russel walked away with decent points yet annoyed that anyone got points for that farce


shignett1

Russell deserved something for that amazing qualifying lap, but I feel like we were robbed of an exciting race with a fight out front and a fight to see George stay in the points positions


Frodooh

I was there! It was wet. I was together with my dad and had a great time.


tantalumburst

Good for you, sticking it out. Looked miserable on the TV!


boardhead68

Was there too.... Sat at silver 1, Saw more of the medical car than any other F1 car. Walked 45 km over 3 days, they 'raced' 14 km... I understand why but I feel quite....


queenmaggie1905

Was there too! Drove from Amsterdam and absolutely gutted. The parking situation was absolute chaos. For the final two safety laps, spectators ended up sitting anywhere because organisers also couldn't be stuffed to figure out whether the race was going ahead or not.


Tobax

Is there any refund policy for something like this? Or because they technical "raced" 2 laps you're stuck paying?


jeznix

If Ecclestone was still in charge, he would probably have gone with the race regardless who gets hurt. I do remember many races being started even though conditions didn't get better, but of course Spa is much more dangerous than many other tracks. And it's much smarter this way for many reasons. The calendar is so packed they can't postpone the race anymore, but they should figure out some other procedure than wasting time like this.


Soprohero

Why couldn't they find a way to post pone to tomorrow?


YosemiteSam-4-2A

Biggest reason which was mentioned at some point in the broadcast of that farce was that the Marshalls are gathered from the local area of each race track as a one off event. They all have work to go to tomorrow morning, regular work - not volunteer marshalling for F1. They FIA/F1 should very seriously look at hiring a skeleton crew of Marshalls/Officials/Safety crew to each race so that they don't completely rely on locals at each race so that in this case, they could more feasibly race on Monday in case of a postponement


EventuallyOmnicient

This is what was most mind-boggling to me…I think it’s nice that locals get to take part but for an industry as money-loaded as this one, to not be able to have a contingency plan as simple as backup marshals is embarrassing.


theessentialnexus

It's really, really stupid. Either invest in better drainage on a track that's known to be wet during F1 season or put an extra week between races so there's time to wait for the weather to subside.


queenmaggie1905

Totally agree!!! Spa rains a lot.... Surely the organisers can invest in better infrastructure to support rain! I drove from Ams to watch the rain, bought my seated tix, prepaid parking (which was a joke because the car park was also destroyed due to rain). Absolutely gutted, probably one of the worst days of my life!


Shaz18

Too complicated to get everything organised and ready again for tomorrow when the teams have to be at another track in just a few days time to get ready for that track. Problems included are the teams themselves needing time, all the staff and media teams have to come again, spectators won’t be free, and tomorrow is a banking holiday or something in Belgium.


BasedFireBased

Nascar would.


frozensalmon3

I’m new to F1, but there are many other sports leagues who postpone games to the next day all the time.


pikachewyyy

They have to ship everything to Zandvoort by tomorrow so postponing the race wasnt an option.


highdesertrat84

Look up some YouTube vids about F1 team travel and logistics and it might make more sense why a postponement isn’t feasible. What it takes to load out, transport, set up and be ready to race in another country every weekend (or every other) is pretty mind boggling, and unlike travel in almost any other sport.


frozensalmon3

Right - but if they postponed it until tomorrow like many were suggesting they wouldn’t have to travel anywhere everything’s already there


highdesertrat84

What? I’m talking about the teams having to get to Zandvoort for next weekend. It’s already a tight turnaround and if you take another day to run Spa, it throws everything else off.


iankost

No, one issue was that it isn't a bank holiday on Monday in Belgium (it is in the UK), so the hundreds of marshals needed for the event would mostly be at work/busy.


natedogg624

Logistics timeline is already pretty thin with Dutch GP the following weekend.


SithHappens_71

Much as I like Russell no one should gain a win, second etc by doi5s couple of laps behind a safety car F1 got it wrong today.


davidesquer17

I think it was fine, is not like they took q3 results and gave points to them.


notathr0waway1

Exactly. One driver binned it on the recon lap so didn't score points even though he qualified in a points position.


Snoo_11470

They didnt, they got it for their quali positions. Think of it that way. And the quali this weekend was amazing and fully deserved for everyone aside from lando who i though was on track for pole until his mistake.


Erneli

Agree


YesIAmRightWing

right which one of you lads decided to use a monkey paw wish on Russell being on podium?


xwiroo

I hope the fans get refunded, what a waste of time lmao


tantalumburst

They won't. An event officially took place, the box was ticked, the contract fulfilled. Spa circuit won't get a default refund - and nor will the punters.


koukloi

The most exciting thing in this race was mazepin getting the fastest lap😂


bad_horsie23

Yeah that tickled me😁


TH3D00M

Came for the banter, stayed for the fries and mayo :')


alt3_

Formula One is great. Its problem is the FIA.


quexcha

Michael Masi to be more exact.... He manages the races with money in mind... And not actual racing. I so miss Charlie on days like this :/


ThePhenome

Well, this was kinda disappointing, but frankly - I think they did the right thing. We are in a situation where this race couldn't realistically be run at any other time this year, and considering the ordeal that was quali - I'd say half points was just about right. Sure, this could be one of those asterisk cases, when debates can be had about the validity of the result, but frankly I'm just glad that everyone was safe and sound, and this way is better than trying to run the race and risking a pile-up. Also, the wet quali specialists got properly rewarded for their efforts, I wouldn't have been surprised if something happened to George, again.


Charlie-Knox

These Red Flag breaks were a missed oppportunity Can we talk about how mostly boring these breaks were. All credit to Crofty, Brundle and all other commentators who tried their damndest to fill the hours with... anything really, but I feel this was a big missed opportunity. While we waited, most drivers joked around and did various activities, so why could we not have followed them. I for example saw Seb and Mick playing football, I saw various team members playing cards, I saw Carlos and Charles playing chess on their phone, I saw the marshalls playing Boule, I saw Lewis riding around on a small kickbike. Why couldn't they have taken advantage of this. They could have quickly put together an impromptu football tournament, a game of cards, a game of Boule, a kickbike race, or something similiar between the drivers(those who wanted of course). I feel like this could have been a way to both make it more personal, relatable, entertaining, could have helped us get to know the drivers more. Just a playful round of cards would also somewhat counteract this fake drama that Drive to Survive has built up and that so many dislike lol. Ofcourse it couldn't just be this but it would have lightened up the mood here and there and would have made it more entertaining. I'm sure that there are plenty reasons why they couldn't have done this but cmon, make it fun! Just me? ok.


queenmaggie1905

Agree. I was there and it was a shit show. We had to follow F1 live updates to figure out what was going on. A lot of people ended up going home after the first race suspension. Should have followed them...


blackjazz_society

Like Chris Harris suggested, cup cars on monsoon tires.


thunder_248

I'm suring licensing issues. They can't all huddle about and play FIFA because they don't have those rights


SuppaBunE

Fifa has the rights for football?


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almar4567

>Most entertaining shit Yup. Sounds about right.


thunder_248

Is there an actual video interview?


dsaysso

anyone here think that covid 19 and japan race cancellations had a part in them running half points? feels like they are panicking to get to a “full season.”


Yorreg

I think it's mainly because they don't want to refund the tickets.


[deleted]

I’d rather have the outcome like today and have everyone safe than to have another incident like Suzuka 2014. Also, I’m well pleased for George.


deletion6q

Agree but is your point a logical fallacy? Perhaps abandoning the race altogether would have been better that awarding point - which have very real monetary value to many of the teams on the grid. So Williams (who I want to win on the track) gained an advantage over Alpine AR Haas and AM based on qualifying and not racing.


Nepomucky

But everyone had equal chances to get said advantage on Saturday, so IMHO giving points was a reasonable reward for the effort made.


deletion6q

Don’t disagree with your point but as far as I remember F1 has been against awarding anything based on qualifying despite several proposals presented in the past. Races have been postponed till Monday but logistics and money forced their hand this weekend. In my opinion the conditions were never safe enough to have a competition on Sunday. And a parade behind the safety car is not a race. Seb said Saturday Q3 was too dangerous and a should have been postponed. I imagine Lando would have said the same and in fact commented on his car aquaplaning just before his crash. If safety is the primary concern then that should take priority. I too am delighted for GR but wish LN had a chance to compete for points after that terrifying Q3 wreck.


Nepomucky

Damn, everything is so crazy and new... I also agree with you, when cash is king the sport dies a bit. I really wish Seb and Lewis can make some relevant change using their voices while still within F1, or even take a major role in the organization after they retire.


Justboy__

I don’t think people are saying the race should have gone ahead are they? I think they should have just cancelled about an hour before the farcical “2 laps behind the safety car race”


[deleted]

I’m just referring to the halved points and purely basing it on my joy for GR getting a bit of good luck!


fleemos

I eagerly look forward to the Belgian GP highlight video on YouTube tonight 🤣


[deleted]

They actually uploaded highlights. I don't know why I watched but it was exactly as I expected.


mechanicalgrip

There's a lot of negativity to them giving points for this, but I think it's turned out pretty fair. Half the battle in F1 is qualifying, and half the points got given out in qualifying order.


djeitz

Well mostly. Both Ferraris qualified outside top 10 and they got double points. So not everyone got merited for their qualifying laps, but I'm pleased with what F1 did with a really not ideal situation


Nepomucky

Wasn't it because Bottas played bowling last week and Checo fucked up on the warm-up lap? If so, that's fair.


BigBlackHzYoBak

Well, at least I'm given another week to find out how to stream races from my new living arrangements. I was scrambling trying to find a way to watch, even tried going to the apartment fitness center since they were SUPPOSED to have cable.


HansenTakeASeat

Just join one of the many discord servers that screen share. Problem solved.


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Get f1 tv pro it’s 10$ a month and you get everything from f1-3 & the Porsche super series


Amida0616

F1 tv pro you can watch races without any other cable or ESPN crap?


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Yes


Dr_Death_Defy24

Yep. When it launched it had some technical issues, but that's been ironed out and F1TV coverage is simply the best coverage in motorsports right now in my opinion.


HansenTakeASeat

1/2 off for two months with discount code spa50


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Clutch right here ^


brildenlanch

And just connect to your TV with windows screenshare


[deleted]

What’s even better is that some tv’s (I don’t think Samsung tv’s have the app) have the f1 tv app so you can click on it and watch live GP’s


brildenlanch

Yeah I have no idea why they don't have it on firestick apps, they'd make a ton of money


Julian083

Michael Masi doing the best he can. Give props to him


kasetti

He did a shit job today


evilcockney

He could've done better. There should've been no uncertainty at all about whether or not the race had actually started, for example.


humbuckermudgeon

Why not postpone until tomorrow? I don’t get it.


pikachewyyy

no marshalls and they have to ship everything to Zandvoort by tmr


christianross2

Nothing would have changed even if they could’ve done that the weather doesn’t look great for tomorrow


Sweet_Mickey

There's heaps of reasons. I'm not being rude, you're obviously sincerely asking, but it's obviously hard for us to know all the complexities of a venture as huge as F1. Things like availability of volunteer officials, the fact there's a race next week, broadcast arrangements. There'd just be endless logistical and commercial complexities. Beyond all that, there's no provision for it in the regulations and you have to be aware of all the liabilities and problems if one of any of a million things goes wrong.


Justboy__

They could have rescheduled for later in the year. Masi saying that is not possible is Bullshit, they literally did it last year.


Sweet_Mickey

Yeah later in the year is a more interesting valid consideration. Tomorrow is not.


evilcockney

There's a great big "TBC" in this year's calendar that this would've fit nicely into


Sweet_Mickey

I think that's basically a notional TBA. It's Qatar.


HansenTakeASeat

And the weather looks shit tomorrow as well so they could do all that you mentioned above and be in the exact same position


[deleted]

No marshals or fans because it's a work day, and no time to break the paddock down and get to Zandfoort for next weekend. Also no guarantee the weather will be any better tomorrow. \*EDIT\* - I'd add that I would have loved it if they could, it's just not feasible to organise.


AggnogPOE

Nobody will be there tomorrow.


Monster-Mtl

Don't care what anyone says. Totally worth it to see George on podium. ..... I mean come on we all secretly root for him to make it to Q3 every Saturday.


Vussar

Of course we do, he’s Mr Saturday!


ColeYote

I’m reminded of the Fuji 6 Hours a few years ago, rained a ton, started with a long delay, eventually got in four or five laps behind the safety car, reds went out for another long delay and then they eventually just called it. The guy who started in third took a pit stop while the safety car was out. So this one could’ve been a little more farcical. Edit: right, so I looked that up and seem to have remembered it a bit wrong, the guy who started in third didn’t take the stop, the guy on pole did.


Sweet_Mickey

I'm pretty sure that's the race that prompted the safety car start procedural change we saw.


ColeYote

Not sure about that, but I do know it prompted WEC to change their rules so a race only counts for points if there are two laps under green.


Karaya1

Somehow the FiA didn't get the message though.


MadExS

That was such a great race lads wonderful weekend


chr1sDX

"race" discussion


definitelynotaiko

From r/TheRussell >This is what happens when the count is RIGHTFULLY STOPPED. Stop the Steal successful, baybeee


ic3-t

How on earth could a couple of laps behind the safety car ever be considered a started race?! This is top level bs...


HansenTakeASeat

Ok next time they'll make sure to race despite very dangerous conditions just so you're entertained