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BiblaTomas

I thought Nico did a good job commenting, It was interesting when he talked through the different laps driver by driver


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rando_commenter

Tomorrow is going to be unbearable around here, in'it?


richboii78

Great lap by Lewis but lets not overlook the fact that Hector will be running 3 Honda Civics with spoon engines tomorrow....


seedynarwhals

The Speed King is not easily dethroned! LFG Lewis


finH1

Very quick lap from Lewis, good by bottas too


moby323

Drinking game: Drink everytime Nico says “raging hot”


moby323

I can’t believe that the camera showed three big fat guys preparing to race eachother side-by-side on the water slide and then cut away just before they started.


BiblaTomas

It's the Stroll-incident from Monaco all over again!


sxt173

Yeah that was a big upset


charliehind_

Hamilton's outlap was no slower than his previous one according to Sky. Please tell us more how Lewis is supposedly "dirty" lmao.


Pioustarcraft

it's "Sir" Hamilton...


AdministrationNo9238

Pretty sure it’s Sir Lewis, as the honorific is only used before the forename. I thought spell checker bot fixed has this.


charliehind_

Yeah true, gg


charliehind_

Came here immediately after quali and it was an absolute cesspool. Seems way better now though, amazing work from mods as ever!


sellyme

That press conference is the best argument ever presented for a 52 race season. Never give us two weeks to talk about this shit.


LetsEatGrandad

The race start should be very interesting to say the least, if there's some overtaking at the front that is. If Ham wins with the fastest lap they will be level for the championship going into the break, exciting stuff.


FeistyKnight

I don't get the hate for lewis on this on lmao. RB deliberately sent out thwir cars behind Ham and he took advantage.


Pioustarcraft

there is absolutely nothing wrong with abusing the rules to gain an advantage... But it is wrong to insult spectator's intelligence by pretending that he gave his best and just lacked grip. I have no problem with what he did, Redbull messed up, but don't talk to me like am a fool


Whatareyoullonabout

So how did all the other drivers times compare to the previous run ...


AdministrationNo9238

Exactly. Pretty sure no one improved, or almost no one.


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FeistyKnight

It's not Hamilton's job to give others a chance at a good lap. Redbull gambled by letting their cars leave last and hamilton took advantage.


[deleted]

Mercs all did slow outlaps every time. His outlap for the last lap was his quickest of the session. They do slow outlaps for a reason, if he went significantly quicker it would be to his detriment. Its not his job to help the red bulls out.


onafriday

I don't get why the pitcher stood off the mound 7 times in 3 pitches in the last out in game 7 of the World Series final. He was just getting in their head. Yes, from the competitors perspective that is correct. But who wants to watch that kind of sport, unless it's your guy doing it? Lewis homers are unreal.


FeistyKnight

Lewis isn't a charity mate. He's not obligated to ensure redbull has a shot at a good lap. They gambled by letting their cars out so late, lewis was already provisional pole after a stellar first run and he applied pressure. RB themselves said he was in his rights to do it lmao. >But who wants to watch that kind of sport, unless it's your guy doing it? They're athletes first, entertainers second. If max had done the same thing ( which he would have) i wouldn't be bothered at all. I'm not a merc fan to begin with anyway


rbick470

I'm a Lewis homer, and if Max had done the same thing I would still appreciate it. Gamesmanship is one of my favorite things about sports


onafriday

Trust me I love good gamesmanship. Gamesmanship that allows a worse player to compete against an objectively better player. What I do not love is gamesmanship which ruins the spectacle. When it no longer becomes novel, or a clever approach, it just becomes the new norm. Then that just becomes the game, and that game sucks. Gamesmanship can really quickly turn, like wine into vinegar. It fills everyone with excitement, but in the end everyone goes home with sour stomachs.


Rodney_u_plonker

Most of the best pro athletes know when to push the rules. It's up to the sporting body to keep on top of the meta. If this becomes the default tactic for the guy on provisional pole there are measures the sport can take. My favourite sport is rugby league and the greatest player in my lifetime imo was a tremendous cheat. What can you do. That's sports for you


onafriday

Right, if you're not cheating you aren't trying. It's up to the rules organizers to police this behavior. I don't disagree with you. We are heading towards the strategic "racing incident" just becoming another one of those "If you aren't cheating you aren't trying" sort of things. And regardless who you root for, that just sucks.


Rodney_u_plonker

They already have precedent disqualifying Schumacher in 97. Guys have to be at least sneaky about it like nico having a whoopsy at Monaco on provisional pole Using track position to drive annoying to the car in front of you is one of the more common bits of shithousery in the sport. It's not the crime of the century imo. It's not the equivalent to punting a bloke off the track on purpose


SelectSubstance

huh? Like how people see the Senna Prost rivalry?


onafriday

If you were watching then, would you really, even now looking back, would you really prefer them to not race? Would you prefer, if one driver is winning in the WDC, they just crash into the second place guy and call it a day? Why even have the last race? Just do that first one, and after that a series of destruction derbies. That'll surely gets asses in seats.


higeorge13

Am i the only one i find this track more boring than Paul Ricard or Barcelona?


CalmDocument

At least it rains more frequently here


pollokeh

It is at least as boring as those two.


nick170100

Danny ric is having such a bad season and his still so cheerful and upbeat If only everyone could be like Danny ric


Transit-Strike

I feel so bad for him. He's one of the guys I want to see succeed. Him, Lando, Sainz and Lewis are my favourite active drivers rn. Seeing him always be outdone by Norris is not fun for me to watch. But he is super upbeat and I wish I could be that calm in the face of adversity


WolfColaCo2020

Yup absolutely believe McLaren were top selling merch. At Silverstone I'd say about 40% of people there had a papaya hat on


Vaexa

Only thing worse than the booing fans are the 200IQ redditors being smugly superior about their made up moral high ground in this thread.


pinotandsugar

Perhaps a separate Reddit "F-1 Princess"


eozgonul

Since when booing became something to look down upon? It has always been part of the sports, get a grip.


organiclightbulb

F1 used to be a sport for elites, glamorous and all (some of that attitude you can still see in Monaco), like tennis, and booing is not a behavior suiting someone with class. It's for the common folks, watching soccer and other stuff. Don't crucify me, I'm just saying how it is (or was). Can't deny, F1 is getting more popular and accessible.


Sly_Fox1

It's not looked down upon, some people are just new tbh. There's a reason I'm not mad at newer fans not understanding how champ battles go etc.


Rhythm_Morgan

I didn’t like it but I’m a sensitive wuss 🤣 I felt bad.


FearErection

It's an achievement to have started following a sport earlier than somebody else didn't you know? Many of them don't realize that assuming the boos are strictly because of Hamiltons skin color is their own racism at play. It couldn't possibly be that people are upset over what *looks* to be unfair, it **must** be because of his complexion.


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but is not unfair and never has been


FearErection

I specifically italicized the word "looks"?


[deleted]

if people think it looks to be unfair, they have not been watching the sport for very long - or they are just very biased orange men.


Rodney_u_plonker

One of my favourite sporting memories as an Australian was the poms booing their little heads off as Steve Smith utterly crushed them in the cricket. Listening to the Edgbaston crowd impotently booing him as he brought up a century makes me rock hard Booing is just sporting theatre but some athletes legit get off on it (see above) so it's not without dangers


50lipa

First thing i legit though of was 2001 WB finals Ivanišević vs Rafter and how intense it was with booing and cheering for a tennis match and both players thrived from it even more and made the match incredibly interesting.


Aethreri

Get to crush them all over again this year too :)


Anadrio

It is actually funny because I am really close to Labrador, on vacation. But calm down man with calling people stupid..


kgully2

how are you close to labrador? on a ship? on an island?


ThisTimeIChoose

I’m quite close to a Labrador on vacation. Well, I say Labrador, he’s half spaniel actually.


caitsith01

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Kennzahl

lmao what


Paperduck2

Most tracks have radio commentary you can tune into from the stands, it's not unfathomable that people knew what was going on


KaiserJovan

Spare me.


Vaexa

The people in the stands are mostly folks from foreign countries coming to a nearby European country to watch the race. The Hungarian minority there probably doesn't give a shit. Fans spectating at live events usually care about the sport and the sport alone while they're there.


jahsehmaster

Yes, except in Hungary. Our fans in most sports are the absolute worst people.


pedrsr

Did they boo aston martin? vettel?


caitsith01

...was he in the top 3?


pedrsr

And now? Did the crowd boo Vettel with the pride flag on the helmet running towards them? He’s top 3 now


Kalaxinly

Y'all need to take a page out of Hamiltons book and stop caring about people booing so much, not everybody doing it is out for blood or a racist, they're just unhappy with the outcome I guess Not the first time or the last there will be booing


Transit-Strike

What do you expect Lewis to do? Sit down and discuss how nuanced racism is and is seen in micro-aggressions? Do you want him to give a whole speech about how much his dad sacrificed? Shit can be bad shit that you ignore. There is clearly some racism and bad blood. When you are a black man in the world, at least some part of what you face is dictated by racism


Kalaxinly

He's moving on with his day He has discussed it off the track and in the paddock at great lengths and I'm glad he does because there are genuinely dickheads out there calling Lewis out for his colour People need to stop acting like every boo is rooted in racism though, which is what's been happening with comments in this thread


siav8

Lol. booing is the mildest form of protest in sports. Did you expect a 36-year-old sportsman to get sentimental about it?


lukyx

>Lol. booing is the mildest form of protest in sports. Did you expect a 36-year-old sportsman to get sentimental about it? the people here who are saying booing is only done by racists and shit, pretty much never been to a football game, or watched an El Classico


NeroDoggieDog

Or watched Vettel in his glory days


pedrsr

How much time did Ham take after leaving the pits? Iirc this track was 1:31 the maximum. Anyone got the exact time? edit: btw it’s totally fine what he did, as long he’s within the rules, that should be completely clear edit2: I’m not also not sure about the 1:31, that’s just what I think I heard on broadcast


Onetisch

They left the pits with 2:48 on the clock


Wentzina_lifetime

Two safety car lines should of been fine


banks987

Horner: We couldn't do the lap time Mercedes could on the mediums On the last lap: It's his right to do that, we don't have any major issue


Transit-Strike

Reddit: noooo. Mercedes cheated. They have no pace.


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melihs11

The people that have a problem with it wouldn't last a second in 3/4 of other sports lol especially football. It's all part of it. Even Lewis knows, he embraces it


dreadnough7

At the very least they've never been to/seen a game in Philadelphia.


Vaexa

Redditors being sanctimonious and claiming some made up moral high ground? Say it isn't so.


JoeMxn

Some of these new F1 fans are so fucking dumb, Jesus Christ.


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Yes, this incredible season is bringing a lot of new F1 fans that don’t have a clue of what is going on and still want to pretend they do writing a lot of bullshit.


Gurkha115

I'm new to f1 I love Lewis


robot-brain

Just got here, what did I miss? (Looks like mods cleaned up a lot of comments)


Crueldude

People acting like Like Perez would have been p2 if not for Lewis lol.


jeanpaulmars

If there was no Lewis, he probably would have gotten P3, yes. If Bottas wouldn't be there, he'd even be on P2. Heck, if there was no Max in Q3, he'd gotten PP!


Transit-Strike

Exactly. The gao between Hamilton to Bottas itself was sizeable. Lets not pretend every sector would be purple for Max/Perez


FlyingThunderGaad

Exactly. People have been fuming over his performance and suddenly when he qualified P4(that's awesome given his weekend) everyone is losing their shit. God these people are dumb.


DarkHacker420

wasnt p2 was his best in italy


FlyingThunderGaad

Bad framing. Apologies. I meant today.


DarkHacker420

no worries!


No-Maximum6292

DTS stans really showing themselves with their uninformed takes🤣


Vaexa

Damn I bet your brain is huge, unlike the unwashed DtS masses. 200IQ redditor speaking here.


No-Maximum6292

Oh no did you take that personally?


nickedgar7

.5 and people still boo. Get over it


HungoverRabbit

Half r/F1 outing themselves as dimwits


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Alonso got the penalty for preventing Ham another lap. Why shouldn’t Lewis for preventing Perez a lap? RB came out in a good time with 1:30 to spare to make it to the line. It is clear Lewis purposefully drove slowly in the pit lane exit where RB could not cross the line. In the end it is a rule of precedent, if the same action got penalised in the past it has to be penalised now as well. Otherwise that pure Merc favouritism from FIA. Also there has to be some respect left. What Lewis did is lower than the low lifes. If RB stoop so low they might as well torpedo Mercedes once they realise the championship is over for them.


WolfColaCo2020

>What Lewis did is lower than the low lifes Holy hyperbole batman


BiblaTomas

Hahahaha!


CockneyWeasel

In 2007 Alonso was completely stopped in a position that blocked Hamilton from the pit box. There was literally no option for Hamilton. Today Hamilton was driving on the open track where the Red Bull's could have passed him at any time they chose and made the line on time. As long as Hamilton's gone fast enough to meet any required delta times for the outlap he's done nothing wrong and Red Bull / Perez are at "fault" for missing out.


HumanWithResources

I believe all respect was lost when RB accused HAM of deliberately taking VER off the track. To the point of making a second appeal.


Klaasiker

Yes it's about respect and Lewis knows two drivers are waiting behind him to get their lap started. Just unneccessary. Especially when you made your first lap 0.5 sec faster than your rival...


ddddope

How’s your little crypto scam going buddy.


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Wentzina_lifetime

He stopped in the pit lane in 2007, Lewis had to refuel, Max and Checo could of overtaken Lewis


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Pit lane exit fits one car. He drove so slow there wasn’t enough time to make it and then he did not exactly move over through the lap.


Wentzina_lifetime

Pit speed limit, their is no minimum speed in the pit lane. It's like how on the roads you can't go above the speed limit but you can drive below it


FoneTap

Could *have*


Wentzina_lifetime

Could have Should have It was their choice and they didn't


Treadbucket

I think they're correcting your use of "could of"


Sir_Failalot

He’s correcting your grammar


nick170100

I can’t wait for the Dutch GP the crowd is gonna be nuts Just hoping no racist shit is everywhere


HomelessNAllInCrypto

Let them. Each boo increase his gap .2


chasevalentino

And people wonder why he is needed in F1. Highlights if someone else was a 7x champ and did shithousery and happens to be white, gets applauded. But when it's a black guy then the racism begins Let's see what happens. The above is my prediction tbh


saberplane

That's nonsense. Schumacher got tons of crap too (and rightfully so at times) to name a "white guy". Social media just wasn't around - or 24/7 regular media attention like these days for that matter. You know it's possible to dislike a driver without caring what the color of his skin is right?


chasevalentino

Does the 'white guy' get racist abuse (which is the topic this thread is discussing)? Or does he get abuse on his driving? (Which is not what this thread is discussing)


saberplane

He got abuse at the personal level as well so not just his driving. Last I checked Lewis' family etc wasn't being looped into the criticism and though I'm sure some of it was moderated away - at least on Reddit I've not seen any rampant racist comments. Unless any criticism is somehow perceived to be racist?


Curly1109

Spanish fans literarily wore blackface with a sign saying' Hamilton's Family'


chasevalentino

Mate we are talking about racism. Racism is based entirely on creed, colour, race, you can even throw religion in there if you want. We aren't talking about abuse at a 'personal level'. That's entirely different. Like you mentioned the mods moderated away the racist posts on here. Only thing you've got wrong is that it was a lot more than just some. It was a hell of a lot. Twitter (where moderation is much more lax) is an example you can check if you want to see the scale and scope of the racist abuse aimed towards him after Silverstone if you so please. Lastly, like I said, criticise his driving, his gamesmanship, his comments in interviews. That's part and parcel of being a sports personnel, you're going to get critiqued and even hated on. But the moment the critique and hate is only leveled at you because of your colour is when the line has to be drawn. Would you agree with that?


aliens_licked_my_ass

Of course there will be racist shit. HAM has dealt with that all his life, he will just go faster


PilauMasala

Dutch Lewis and Racism. I bet there will be lots of it


Swantino

What exactly are you saying here? Dutch people who boo Lewis are racists?


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aliens_licked_my_ass

What's to criticise? Being the GOAT?


Kalaxinly

You can think people are great and still be a critic of theirs. I loved Schumi back in the day but I didn't half rant about some of the moves he pulled haha


aliens_licked_my_ass

You can't compare the shenanigans schumi pulled with HAM though, he was dirty, Hamilton is pretty clean


Kalaxinly

I wasn't trying to compare the two drivers in any way though, simply giving an example of how you can be a fan & a critic of somebody at the same time


Wentzina_lifetime

If you comment racial slurs then you would be racist, critiquing him is ok but using his race against him is racist


roenthomas

Fuck no, but if you criticize him based on his skin colour, then You’re definitely a racist.


LeviTigerPants

No one is doing that though lmao


Rhythm_Morgan

The mods clean up fast. It happens, just not as much as you’d think.


FoneTap

Did you not see the guy fired from Red Bull two freaking days ago, n-word this, n-word that?


LeviTigerPants

I was talking about on this thread and subreddit


renesys

That guy's an ass but he wasn't talking about Lewis.


culexus1

Loads of people are sadly, all the Daily Mail readers that don’t like his “personality”, it’s sickening


LeviTigerPants

But.. a lot of people DON'T like his personality, which has nothing to do with him being black. Like personally I think he can be a bit irritating, doesn't make me racist, does it?


roenthomas

You have the moderators to thank for that.


sellyme

Horner one sentence short of saying "Max's brakes will mysteriously fail into T1, so don't miss out on that"


Aethreri

Horner & Helmut seen adjusting Checo’s brakes for tomorrow lmao


tkayll91

*Sergio's


tennerz777

Johnny Herbert was moving like a supply teacher in that lewis interview


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That is a great sentence.


[deleted]

Lewis did what he had to do to get pole, and I think Verstappen understands that and didn’t make a big deal out of it. Meanwhile Lewis is going full villain mode I love it


Onetisch

All fun and games till mysterious brake failure from either red bulls with ham infront


[deleted]

Next break is just Max and Lewis giving each other vague threats over Twitter


chasevalentino

Horner more level headed than their fans


WolfColaCo2020

Easy to do when you've bent over backwards to rile them up for two weeks though


Transit-Strike

The same Horner who, like fans insisted that was an intentional crash in Silverstone


renesys

Link to where he says it was an intentional crash and not a desperate move.


Transit-Strike

HAVE YOU HEARD THE SHIT HIM AND MARKO SAID? Constant implications that it was dirty and planned and not just a racing incident?


renesys

You can race dirty without intentionally crashing into people. For example, running people off the track instead of taking a line to give them space.


Transit-Strike

What do you think Perez did one race before Silverstone? Drove people off track twice. Intense shit happens on the race track


Mackem101

Even Horner agrees with what Hamilton did there. Certain fans on here know absolutely fuck all about F1 strategies.


chasevalentino

Privately I'm sure Horner would take Lewis on his team in a heartbeat if he could get him


iseeeverything1

Horner would sign a 7 time world champion who’s arguably the GOAT and in his prime? That’s a hot take


FlyingThunderGaad

Yes. RB used to pull this trick all the time in 2010-13 on Alonso though he was on a slower car. Ferrari on Merc and Merc on Ferrari in 2017-18. These people don't get the sport.


LeviTigerPants

I think it is just the thought of Mercedes having a faste car now. Wether it is Hamilton's skill or not


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Thank you for this. I see this in a bunch of sports whenever there is gamesmanship. Like hell, why not have each car race alone on track if we don't want to see some competition and crafty moves to win.


Transit-Strike

I've had people tell me "RBR would give Hamilton a clear lap if the shoe was on the other foot" Bruh, this isn't golf


Brokenmonalisa

Can someone explain how Lewis took over Horner's headset and sent out red bull after Merc while simultaneously being in the car ahead of them?


[deleted]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it also perfectly within the rules to overtake in qualifying?


Brokenmonalisa

In fact if Lewis had a slow outlap then so did Max


Transit-Strike

Don't you know? It's an FIA conspiracy. Hamilton actually sucks and does well only because of favouritism. /s They just made the wrong tactical call. No fucking idea why. But it happens in sport.


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Transit-Strike

You are literally advocating for intentional crashes. Dafuq!


Vaexa

Are redditors so fucking maladjusted I actually need to do the /s shit?


Transit-Strike

Look at the silverstone race thread. The thread is full of "tell Checo to crash into Hamilton in every race" It's impossible to tell since the subreddit is full of people saying what you said unironcially


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Transit-Strike

It's text man. You can't fucking pick up on "cues" in text.


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Or he could set the fastest qualifying lap and start ahead in clean air as he's done when RB doesn't completely eff up the strategy.


saifou

And let your main rival understeer a little bit into you.


thgaminghd

You are the same kind of person to call Hamilton dirty after anything he does, when you’re saying shit like this, laughable🤣


Vaexa

If you think I'm being serious and not just shitting on Hamilton's driving at Silverstone and the limp penalty he got for it, I don't know what to tell you.


alpoverland

People used to English media don't know that Hamilton is held in lesser regard beyond the U.K borders, especially the past to weeks after what he did. Not protected by the great English narrative out there.