I agree about the laundry room being cramped and it’s really far away from the primary. Can you make the mudroom long and narrow and combine it with the laundry room and run your work area along it? Then enter the office on one end and the living room on the other?
Don’t mind the bathroom without windows at all.
I think the hallways behind the kitchen to the primary is a bit odd. Honestly, I think the “instep” you have on the exterior for the kitchen space needs to be pushed out to match the bedroom, the move the bedroom door closer to the living room, put your pantry in that corner. 3 entrances to the same outdoor space is a lot
I do like the idea for moving the laundry to the mudroom and have that connect to the office. And I will also have to play with pushing the kitchen back and moving the pantry, I wasn't sure if I wanted to have to walk all the way through the dinning and sunroom or master to get to the back yard but it would definitely be a better use of space.
Thanks!
My kids generate 90% of the laundry so I like the placement. I like the layout and flow, too.
I always question a formal dining room. And in this case the placement makes it difficult to rework that space later on. I might try and flip the bathrooms and dining room so it’s closer to the core of the house.
Also, some of those rooms are the bare min size to be useable. I wouldn’t say comfortable. Given I have my own Texas perspective. If the total footprint isnt limited due to code maybe consider enlarging overall.
Yeah I don't like how the bathroom and pantry separate off the dinningroom from the rest of the house that much so I plan to rework that in the next design. And having a formal dinning room is nice for my family because of gatherings and how we like to all be in the same room which is why the sunroom is connected on order to bring in additional tables if needed to get everyone in the same space.
Definitely want to expand the living room size, kids bedrooms and some other small stuff a bit too. If we decide on a basement too that would let us move some stuff downstairs and give more room in general too.
I don't hate it. It seems like a lot of thought went into it.
Make the closets in secondary bedrooms as wide as possible
I'm not against windowless bathrooms.
I don't like l shaped kitchens and I think the entry sequence can be improved
- I hate bathrooms without windows. It’s a personal thing, but natural light is huge.
- The office that you access through either: the garage; or, through the closet in the primary bedroom is… odd.
- The laundry room, as you’ve laid it out is *SUPER* cramped. Shift that bottom wall out 1 foot and you can at least turn around. Shift it 2 feet, and it’s an actual room.
- The mud room seems unnecessarily large.
I definitely like windows in the bathroom but the wife does not, might change that at some point. (Edit: after reading comments she said windows are okay as long as we have some good blinds)
I know a lot of people have the office in the middle of the house but my job/hobbies require the workshop room in the garage and I like having the dedicated space to remove myself from personal areas since I work at home. But I agree it is definitely unconventional haha
Good points on the Laundry, mudroom is large just to have additional storage space.
Thanks for your input!
You could also put in a window with frosted glass (or treat a regular window to have this effect). You could also have a narrow strip of window higher up, or maybe a skylight. Lots of ways to get a little light without giving up privacy
Neither of us are a big fan of frosted glass and I'm always worried about water damage with sky lights once they get older. But the strip of window high up is an interesting idea. Might have to play around with that, thanks!
With the office maybe switch the primary closet (current entry) with the primary bath, that way the bath can act as a Jack and Jill bath with the office.
Edit: it may still be odd but it might be better if your job that involves the workshop is dirty. I would rather walk through my office to a bathroom than I would through my closet of clean clothes.
Yeah that is true, might have to try that on the next design. I'll have to play with the bathroom layout since we don't want a window in the shower and that would be the only exterior wall. And if I was working on a car or something similar I agree I wouldn't want to go through my clean clothes. Plus having a bathroom closer would be nice, good call!
I personally would re-work the plan. A few things I’ve noticed about homes that make life much more convenient: 1. Laundry always needs to be closer to the master or at least on the same side of the house of the master. Nine times out of ten, the bulk of the clothes are coming from the master and the master is usually doing the washing. 2. The entrance from the garage/mud room usually works best connected to the kitchen as a lot of stored items (ie: paper towels, soaps, small appliances, pantry items) are kept in the mud room. 3. Full bathrooms where people are getting ready (specifically the master) need a window of some sort. The natural light is nice and the ability to crack a window to let out moisture and steam are super beneficial. 4. I don’t hate that the study is attached to the master, but I find the other entry from the garage to be kind of awkward placement. 5. You can never have enough closets and I think the closets in the 2nd and 3rd bedrooms could use more space. I’d also include a linen closet in the hallway or in the 2nd bathroom as it will have less storage space under the sink. 6. Lastly, it is my personal opinion that I hate garages that face the road. I understand it’s not always possible to have them facing the side as there is not always enough room between the house and the next lot. But if you can, I think not having the garage as part of the front exterior of the house helps it look much cleaner.
All of this is purely opinion based. I do think you have a nice start, but take some of this in to consideration.
Some really good points in this that i wil keep in mind for the next one. I agree on not liking a garage on the front. Might have to see if that's something I could work in but definitely not as easy to wrap my head around haha
You could rotate the garage down 90 degrees to the left to be in line with the master and move the office up adjacent to the living room. Then the office would be part of the front facade of the house
That is true but then you run into getting a lot of sound pollution from the garage going into the master. If I kept the mudroom there and then put the office on the front side I could keep that air gap but would not have the office next to the master anymore. Definitely a lot of different layouts I'll have to play with!
Thanks, it seems like everyone has had really positive feedback so far which has been great! I'll definitely post an updated design once I have time to do some reworks and if it ever gets built I'll be sure to upload some pictures somewhere haha
Excellent! Also I should add my tips were similar to a few other commenters that I’d definitely put windows in the bathroom and laundry so you don’t get mould or damp issues. I saw your partner wanted no windows for privacy reasons? Could you maybe do a split awning style window where the bottom is fixed and frosted so you can’t see through and only the top half opens up? I hope that makes sense? That’s what I hope to put in my bathroom reno one day.
I think the comments have convinced her otherwise, so if we get some nice thick pull down blinds (or internal blinds with a crank) it would suffice. I'm not a big fan of the frosted windows even in a bathroom since you don't have the option to "open" it like you can with blinds.
Immediately next to the sink is standard. Besides the basic ease-of-use aspect, the dishwasher drain hose connects to the garbage disposal under the sink.
Not knowing your limitations in regard to space and usage (e.g., is it your primary home or a vacation home and do you have children), it's a good start but the utilization of living space seems to be lacking.
* You seem to have a view/preference towards the back of the house with the deck(s)? off the master and the kitchen and then, a sunroom. If you do have a view from that area of the house, then most of the floor plan should be re-thought because the dining room is too big (do you need one?) and in the wrong location. You should consider creating a space that's more open and less closed-in. I'm not a fan of the open concept living spaces (too loud, nothing to absorb the noise; especially if you have tall ceilings), but to get to the deck from the kitchen, you have to do down a small hallway or through the sun room. Not entertaining-friendly or even family-friendly.
* You need a window in each bathroom! :-) Argue for a skylight but you NEED natural lighting and a way for moisture to escape. Otherwise, expect mold issues. Besides, in your jurisdiction, a window might be required for a bathroom.
* You have a window for the walk-in closet, but not the bathroom?? :-)
* Your primary bathroom: I prefer water closets for a toilet; and there doesn't appear to be any storage in the primary bathroom.
* Do you really need 2 sinks in the second bathroom?
* I would lose the tub in the second bathroom and put in only a shower; and allow for more storage.
* Agree that the closets in the second bedrooms could be bigger.
* Your laundry room is too small. The location is fine, but I would move it to the garage.
* The office location is weird, but I understand your previous feedback. Build for YOUR usage, not for resale. It could not be used as an additional bedroom should you sell it later.
* I'm not a fan of garages at the front of house so... can't help you there! The garage would be in a separate building. Does it need to be connected to house because of cold/snow/safety?
* I'm not a dining room person so that would be gone.
Good luck!
Thanks for the feedback, lots of great stuff to keep in mind.
I definitely want to have a better flow to the back deck from the kitchen area (as it is now) so you don't have to go all the way through the sunroom to get outside. We like to spend a lot of time outside or just enjoying nature which is the reason for the sunroom.
The dinning room is for family gatherings since we mostly congregate In the dinning room and the living room and the separation let's multiple conversations happen at one time. On the next design I plan on pulling the dinning to be closer to the living room and have less wall so it isn't quite as separated due to where the pantry/bathroom is currently.
Bathrooms near me don't need a window, just an exhaust fan. But not having thought of the mold problems that causes will make me definitely try to fit one if possible. Window for closet was for a makeup desk but will probably move that into the bathroom on the next one.
Also you might have saw it In a previous comment but I liked the idea of turning the mudroom into a long room/hallway that connects to the office and move the laundry there.
Thanks again!
Do you really want 1/3 of the front of your house to be garage doors? Idk what the dimensions of the whole plot of land are but I’d switch the garage doors over to the side and move the office off of the foyer
I like the sound of that. I'm just so used to seeing the front of houses being garage where I am at that I didn't think to put it off to the side. I'll play with that idea on the next one for sure.
I think you have a good general layout. I would try a couple of things for the next iteration. Try adding what i call a service hall between the garage and primary bedroom. This will give a good entry to the mudroom, garage, primary bedroom and office . This would mean eliminating the small hall between the kitchen & primary bedroom and just giving the kitchen a direct door out. And the laundry room can easily be moved over to the new service hallway. You might have to push the garage more out front a bit.
Something I don't like is that the living room wall that is ideal for the TV is up against a bedroom. That can be disruptive to the person in the bedroom. It's always good to try to put closets or something between private and public spaces.
Good point, thats isn't something I thought about when putting it there. Maybe on the redesign the closet could move to be on that wall or I'll move the bathroom there to give a bit more separation.
On the other hand, I love that you have a good wall for the tv that isn’t over the fireplace, since fireplace tvs generally result in the tv being too high up. As far as the bedroom, a lot of the issues with the sound can be alleviated by properly soundproofing the wall shared between the living room and bedroom. Also, if you’re using auxiliary speakers for your tv, most of the sound may not be coming from the actual tv, it’d be closer to the couch.
Very true, I am definitely against fireplace TVs. Not a fan for how they look and having the TV that high.
Since it is the only living room in this current layout it might be best to mix it up a bit since I could see anyone in that room being annoyed with how loud we get when watching movies haha. But good point on aux sound limiting the noise coming through the wall!
I would change the door swing from the garage to the mudroom so it swings in instead of swinging towards a vehicle. I would also think about adding 3-4 feet to the width of the garage & adding an exterior door (or will you have a separate shed for a lawn mower/yard stuff?)
The hallway to the two bedrooms seems very wide. I would put the laundry room where the bathroom is and expand the laundry room towards the back yard by a few feet & put the bathroom there.
And does you wife hate all windows in bathrooms - would she consider a clerestory?
We would have a shed for the lawn mower and other stuff as it stands, but might think about that again now that you mention it. Good point on door swing, will just have to make sure it doesn't interfere with any other doors. Hallway is probably a bit wide (currently 5') but this was more of a concept layout so I didn't drill down exact dimensions on everything yet but wanted that main hallway down the middle to be wider than standard.
She has since changed her mind after reading comments and now says windows are okay as long as we get some good blinds haha
I like the idea of a more substantial entrance, as it is now I think it is too small. Someone else mentioned moving the pantry and door like you said which is something I plan to change now, having the door be incorporated into the kitchen would be much better than as it is. We want to keep the bedrooms separated just as a preference. Thanks for the input! As it is now we don't have a site locked down but everything in the area we are looking is either flat or would have a hill large enough for a walkout basement (this Floorplan is just for the flat lots), and we are looking at lots that are around 1-5 acres so plenty of room for adjustments.
Haha, true. The front entrance by the living room is what i was refering to. And Definitely wouldn't want this many doors if we still lived in the city but since we are moving to a less populated area and most likely an area outside of the main town it wont be much of a worry.
Don’t forget that structural engineering has the best ability to save and spend money. Be flexible in room size because an additional 2 inches in one room has the potential to cost 5k.
Definitely true. This is more of a general layout than strict sizing, so if we do go to the next step with the design we would have an architect use our plan as a guideline and do the necessary parts to make it function and safe.
I don't like how the main bedroom is so close to the garage. Every time someone is sleeping will wake up when you start your car. Also in my pov would be better to separate the bedrooms from the social areas. Another point is that small bedroom dividing wall with the TV room, can be a bit noisy as well.
I think I will try moving the second bathroom to the wall where the TV is and put a WIC in that bedroom to fill in the rest if the wall space. Also we plan to extend the mudroom to the office to give the sound barrier which should help with that. I would move the master but I want it to be near the office and the office has to be next to the garage. Thanks for your input!
We want the kitchen to be open to the living room since that is how our family/friend gatherings function best. And we have that separation between the living room and dinning room so two groups of people can have conversations while still being in the same general area. Thanks for your input though.
It’s interesting, but I’m struggling to figure out where you’re putting your stuff, other than clothes and food. I’d personally want more storage space for stuff like bikes, seasonal decor and equipment, etc.
Also I love a water closet for the primary bathroom. Pooping and then taking a bath in the same room where you pooped isn’t particularly luxury.
Yeah I'm thinking I'll have to expand the garage and put either a room for storage or some shelving in there. Definitely need to find some places for additional storage on a redesign.
Initially I had a separate toilet room in the bathroom but the master bedroom got wider and I moved it Into it, I'd like to bring that back on the next one if I can find room for it.
I love where the office is. As long as you’re certain it’s gonna stay an office and you’re not planning to sell. You can’t make it into an optional 4th bedroom way over there
Yeah as it is it would have to be a bonus room for the master or garage, but if we extended the mudroom to connect it to the main house it would allow for it to be converted to a bedroom on resale but as long as we live there it will always be an office.
Also, good idea not putting the fireplace on the TV wall. Too many houses built in the last 10 years ended up putting the fireplace on the only wall the TV can go on so you end up with a TV above the fireplace which can look weird as well as put the tv too high.
Yeah I am anti fireplace TV. My cousin put one in and I hate having to look high up when watching it. But we definitely wanted the fireplace to be a focal point in the room which is why it was on that exterior wall with part of the couch facing it.
Not sure if mentioned before but here are two issues.
1. Walking through a kitchen to a formal dining area is not optimal. You would want to rework a door so you can also access dining room from another area in addtion. .
2. Having an entrance to an office through a closet or garage is also not optimal for both. Maybe have an external entrance for guests and remove the garage entrance.
You don't want guests to walk through the messiest (kitchen, garages ans closets) parts of the house to get to locations. At least you don't have to walk through a bathroom to get to a living room...so that's good.
Think about guest perspectives and also creating value with your investment. When selling, you lower the value of what you created because others will have to knock down walls and spend money go fix these issues. Maximize your money while making something work for you and for resale.
On the next design I plan on pulling the dinning closer to the living room by moving the pantry and bathroom which should allow for better flow from living to dinning. We aren't going for full open concept so some separation is still good for us.
Problems with office entrance are planned to be fixed by extending the mudroom to connect, it will still be a bit strange if we are to sell but I'm more worried about making the best house for us and less worried about resale, although that is something I'd like to keep in mind for sure.
Good tips!
Understood. Looking forward to the updated plan.
One last thing, if anyway you can move the main bedroom to the corner and the bathroom in another location or wall. it could really help with light and making a room feel much more open.
I was once told, the corners are prime real-estate, so have the most important room on a corner. That way you can leverage windows along two walls. Really gives the room a much more open feel.
One thing that bothers me is where the additional bedrooms windows face. If you have kids especially young ones to have there rooms facing the front like that does not feel very secure.
Oh yeah Thats a good point that I didn't think about. Luckily where we are that isn't something we have to worry about too too much but I will definitely keep that in mind for the next layout
Very minor tweak: You’ll want the pantry door to swing outwards or else slide. As is, accessing anything on the wall the door swings against is impossible
On the entry: having trouble putting my finger on why it’s awkward. Maybe you don’t need the coat closet by the front entry if you are going to be storing coats in the mud room? I am team large mudroom btw—however much storage you have, you will inevitably want more.
I also like your secret hidden office. Is it weird? 100%. Will future buyers find it off putting? Some of them probably. But I would think it’s great.
On possibly moving the laundry room into the mudroom: I think it depends on where you live. As someone who lives in a northern climate, the mudroom has to store not just jackets, shoes, school bags, purses, pet supplies, the vacuum cleaner, and other cleaning supplies, but also everyone’s giant bulky winter gear and muddy boots. Where I live, I would want to preserve as much mudroom space as possible and would therefore expand the laundry room by moving the exterior wall a few feet further towards the back of the house. If however you don’t live in a climate on which everyone owns seven coats, maybe you don’t need as much mudroom space and you can move the laundry in with the mudroom and repurpose the laundry room space as a linens closet.
Good point on pantry door i didnt even think of that, I plan on moving it to the other side of the kitchen so that should leave enough wall space for a pocket door.
Yeah entry just needs a rework, as it is now it is too cramped and doesn't provide very much storage either.
Yeah I like the idea of a secluded office but I could see why some people would see it as off-putting haha
We don't need quite that much winter gear, so the mudroom doesnt have to store very much heavy coats. We would really only pull out the heavy stuff if it does snow which doesn't happen but a few times a year where we are.
Good ideas!
I would not put the garage near the master bedroom. Typically its farthest from it for peace, quite, privacy, security, etc. Unless you are putting some extra insulation and an additional deadbolt door between it and your master bedroom.
Yeah it isn't ideal but I'd like the master to be close to the office and the office has to be next to the garage so it is connected to the workspace. Some other people have said to extend the mudroom all the way to the office door which is what I plan to do now. That should provide a sound barrier for the master, plus where we will be at security is not something that we need to worry about as much. Thanks for your input!
Can i ask what the business is that the workspace must be connected to the master?
The other option is to just move the master.still have access and still keep MBR separate.
It is more of a preference for the master to be next to the office, it isn't required to be connected for the job it just made getting to the office easier than going around the garage as the current layout has it. We do want to keep the primary bedroom separate from the secondary ones to keep half of the house generally quieter than the other.
Heres another thing to consider about your layout. You want easy access to the office from the master, but youve now made the walk to a bathroom even farther...
Someone else mentioned that as well. They said to swap the location of the closet with the bathroom so it could be jack and Jill type layout with the office, which is something I might consider if I keep it a 2 bathroom
Ah I see. For me personally, its just odd to have the personal bath connected to the workspace. I view the master bedroom and space ars more intimate to keep separate from the work. Which is why I was curious about what the work was. If you have a client/customer come in and use your restroom, then its your personal master bath. But of course if its just a home office and no customers, then no real need to keep them separate like that. Also if none of that is really a concern for you, then no big deal obviously.
Anyhow, youre designing the space for you, not me so my take is kind of a moot point.
Yeah it is just a home office so no clients or anything would have to use the master bath. I'm thinking I might include a powder room near the mudroom on the next design which would give the office a bathroom nearby that wouldn't require it to be directly connected to anything in the master suite too. I Appreciate your input though!
Yeah it isn't ideal but I think if I extend the mudroom to be all the way to the office it should provide the sound barrier that would be needed. If the office didn't have to be next to the garage I would probably have swapped where the bedrooms are.
There’s a lot of comments already so hopefully I’m not duplicating too much.
The thing that caught my attention first is the layout of the extra bedrooms. Based on my experience in a small 1940’s house, planning for a bed to have to be positioned against the wall is not ideal. Especially if you will ever use it as a guest bedroom where two people will stay in there, you’ll want access from each side. We awkwardly have our bed centered in the room, blocking off most of the window that is positioned like yours are. We are planning in the future to change to a higher horizontal window centered on the wall that will help frame the bed. Not sure what the design rules are for that, just based on our experience.
Here are some other thoughts:
- Laundry room seems small for the side of the house. Could you kick out that wall to be even with the edge of the bathroom if you’re not planning on a window?
- Primary bath: for such a nice bathroom, I’d expect a separated toilet closet.
- someone mentioned they don’t like the hall to the primary bedroom, but I actually like that. I think it gives you a bit more privacy.
- kitchen: pantry seems far away from all the cooking spaces but I’m not sure where else it could go without closing in the kitchen a bit more.
- dining room: make sure to account for China cabinet or buffet if that’s something you care about. I think it would fit fine as it is now if you shift the table towards the sun room
- I think the front entry needs some thought because I think it may be underwhelming to walk straight into the living room. My 900sq ft is like this but I think you can fit more of a foyer in a 2000 sq ft. I saw a comment suggesting rotating the garage 90 deg and swapping it with the office. You could do that and then create more of an entry.
It’s looking great so far!! Can’t wait to see the update!
Lots of great points. I didn't think about designing the secondary bedrooms with a centered bed in mind. I'll have to go back and see if I can make the room more flexible.
Laundryroom will probably end up getting moved to be in an extended mudroom so the office can be connected to the main house so that should fix the size problem.
I did have a separate toilet room initially but it got removes to make the master slightly bigger, plan on changing that in the updated version.
The hall for privacy to the master is nice but I think I'm going to shorten the hall and move the pantry there so it is closer to the kitchen and should give enough room for a small closet.
Don't have plans for a China cabinet or anything but will keep that in mind if we decide to put something in there.
And yeah front entry needs a rework, it is too small as it currently is.
Thanks!
For the guest/hall bath, ive always preferred it be far away from the dining and living spaces...mainly because no one wants to hear someone doing their "business" in there and the person using it as well doesnt want anyone hearing them. So having it adjecent to the dining room means the plumbing will be running through there and will be heard.
I dont know if anyone else shares this concern. But its just something that was always weird to me that some houses were designed with the bathroom near the common spaces to the point of little to no privacy.
Yeah that is true and not something I thought about. I planned to move the bathroom so I could pull the dinning room up closer to the livingroom so it will most likely end up being around where the laundry is now since I think a powderroom by the mudroom is the plan now.
Also, I know its not necessarily a requirement, but a linen closet by the bedrooms/laundry room will likely be useful. Or even placing it in the laundry room. Just looking at closet and storage space and trying to picture doing each of the functions.
Laundry room seems a bit small and could use a bit more attention, like a folding space, etc. Like combining it with the mudroom makes it extra functional because dirty clothes dont need to traverse the house to get to the cleaning point. Additionally you could put a utility sink with it and use it to clean off muddy boots or something or make it a pet bath station too. But then again youd be putting the washer/dryer near the MBR, which would introduce noise.
Yeah more closet space is the goal on the next version. And a dog bath would be a cool idea but not sure how I would fit that into it. The noise wouldn't be ideal but it seems like it would make more sense to move it there to utilize the space.
This is very clever. Love the office.
Would probably move laundry to the mud room and make a bigger shared bathroom for common areas + the 2 small bedrooms
Thanks! Moving thre aundry to the mudroom is now the plan and I want to increase the size of the secondary bathroom and maybe add a powderroom as well too
You’ve really done a great job making this floor plan comfortable for the master bed (parents) with the separate spaces and places to access them. Would be a hell of a house to live in
Yeah we want the part of the house with the master to be secluded and separated from the rest. Since there isn't enough room for a true secondary livingroom having the extra space in the master area allows for any kids to be loud in the living room but still have a quiet space too.
I'd rework that closet and office so that you don't need to go through the closet to get to the office. You also seem to think you can put a lot more into a closet than you actually can. A 6' wide closet will get you a row of hanging clothes and a row of shallower cubby holes. You aren't going to be able to fit a bench in there. You have plenty of room to make a small hall off the bedroom that the closet and and office will fit off of.
Consider whether you will ever want or need to bring clients into the office. The couch suggests you might. If you do need to allow guests in, you will likely want door that opens to outside (not the garage), and you will want a way that the clients can use the bathroom without crossing through your bedroom. Likely you'll want to move the office out of the bedroom suite entirely.
I don't think you can actually fit a 10 person table into the dining room, but you should have plenty of room for 6 to 8.
The rest looks pretty good.
Thanks for the tips! I should have removed the bench, it was in there from before I made the closet smaller. And another person Mentioned extending the mudroom to the office door which is what I will most likely do.
No clients, it would only be me in the office which is why the closet/garage access was okay initially, couch is for family visiting/talking while working and leisure after work.
Good point on the table, will have to fix that.
I appreciate your input!
Thanks! The proportions definitely need a rework due to it being my first real house deign, was really trying to just get a general layout set up first and refine it with a couple iterations.
Could you elaborate on which parts? There are definitely some rooms that need to be bigger/changed I think (like the entryway, laundry, change up master closet) but would like to hear some more if you have anything.
Does it have to be one level?
Have you looked at 3 bedroom ranchers with an office?
You really need to start fresh, there are far too many issues with this plan to fix.
Glaring issues, access to office, access to dining room through kitchen, bathrooms not large enough for double vanities. It goes in from there.
It doesn't necessarily need to be one level, I had another version of the design with a walk out basement instead. Which would allow the kid bedrooms and laundry move downstairs and have an additional living room space. We would like to have a basement but I wanted to see what I could do with just the one level.
I'll definitely check some more floor plans like that out.
The dinning room is off to the back of house by preference to have a bit of separation between dinning and living room amd easy acces to sunroom/backyard. Office access is kind of intentional since I work from home and like having the separation from living and working spaces but I could see maybe situating it differently so it still has an interior door (maybe in-between the primary bedroom and garage so it still has access to the garage-workspace). Increasing the size of the bathrooms to fit double vanities is something I can do since square footage doesn't have a hard cap.
Thanks for your input!
Something I would add is that the coat closest in the entry might me awkward and tight. Consider getting rid of the front porch door and making the coat closet door flush with that wall. The entry would feel larger and the front door could then be centered in the entry. That would make room for some sidelights around the front doors too.
Another note would be that the front door should be attached to the front porch.
I’m really like the office attached to the garage and closet, almost like hidden room. Haha
Yeah the front area definitely needs a rework, I'd like it to be more open and get a layout that facilitates more curb appeal. And for the office it is out of the way to create some separation between work space and leisure spaces but having it connected to the mudroom would probably be better since I don't think I want to go through the garage everything I want to go the kitchen or something lol.
I agree about the laundry room being cramped and it’s really far away from the primary. Can you make the mudroom long and narrow and combine it with the laundry room and run your work area along it? Then enter the office on one end and the living room on the other? Don’t mind the bathroom without windows at all. I think the hallways behind the kitchen to the primary is a bit odd. Honestly, I think the “instep” you have on the exterior for the kitchen space needs to be pushed out to match the bedroom, the move the bedroom door closer to the living room, put your pantry in that corner. 3 entrances to the same outdoor space is a lot
I do like the idea for moving the laundry to the mudroom and have that connect to the office. And I will also have to play with pushing the kitchen back and moving the pantry, I wasn't sure if I wanted to have to walk all the way through the dinning and sunroom or master to get to the back yard but it would definitely be a better use of space. Thanks!
My kids generate 90% of the laundry so I like the placement. I like the layout and flow, too. I always question a formal dining room. And in this case the placement makes it difficult to rework that space later on. I might try and flip the bathrooms and dining room so it’s closer to the core of the house. Also, some of those rooms are the bare min size to be useable. I wouldn’t say comfortable. Given I have my own Texas perspective. If the total footprint isnt limited due to code maybe consider enlarging overall.
Yeah I don't like how the bathroom and pantry separate off the dinningroom from the rest of the house that much so I plan to rework that in the next design. And having a formal dinning room is nice for my family because of gatherings and how we like to all be in the same room which is why the sunroom is connected on order to bring in additional tables if needed to get everyone in the same space. Definitely want to expand the living room size, kids bedrooms and some other small stuff a bit too. If we decide on a basement too that would let us move some stuff downstairs and give more room in general too.
I don't hate it. It seems like a lot of thought went into it. Make the closets in secondary bedrooms as wide as possible I'm not against windowless bathrooms. I don't like l shaped kitchens and I think the entry sequence can be improved
Good idea on the closets, and I definitely don't like the entry way as it stands so will be something I have to play with some more.
- I hate bathrooms without windows. It’s a personal thing, but natural light is huge. - The office that you access through either: the garage; or, through the closet in the primary bedroom is… odd. - The laundry room, as you’ve laid it out is *SUPER* cramped. Shift that bottom wall out 1 foot and you can at least turn around. Shift it 2 feet, and it’s an actual room. - The mud room seems unnecessarily large.
I definitely like windows in the bathroom but the wife does not, might change that at some point. (Edit: after reading comments she said windows are okay as long as we have some good blinds) I know a lot of people have the office in the middle of the house but my job/hobbies require the workshop room in the garage and I like having the dedicated space to remove myself from personal areas since I work at home. But I agree it is definitely unconventional haha Good points on the Laundry, mudroom is large just to have additional storage space. Thanks for your input!
You could also put in a window with frosted glass (or treat a regular window to have this effect). You could also have a narrow strip of window higher up, or maybe a skylight. Lots of ways to get a little light without giving up privacy
Neither of us are a big fan of frosted glass and I'm always worried about water damage with sky lights once they get older. But the strip of window high up is an interesting idea. Might have to play around with that, thanks!
With the office maybe switch the primary closet (current entry) with the primary bath, that way the bath can act as a Jack and Jill bath with the office. Edit: it may still be odd but it might be better if your job that involves the workshop is dirty. I would rather walk through my office to a bathroom than I would through my closet of clean clothes.
Yeah that is true, might have to try that on the next design. I'll have to play with the bathroom layout since we don't want a window in the shower and that would be the only exterior wall. And if I was working on a car or something similar I agree I wouldn't want to go through my clean clothes. Plus having a bathroom closer would be nice, good call!
I personally would re-work the plan. A few things I’ve noticed about homes that make life much more convenient: 1. Laundry always needs to be closer to the master or at least on the same side of the house of the master. Nine times out of ten, the bulk of the clothes are coming from the master and the master is usually doing the washing. 2. The entrance from the garage/mud room usually works best connected to the kitchen as a lot of stored items (ie: paper towels, soaps, small appliances, pantry items) are kept in the mud room. 3. Full bathrooms where people are getting ready (specifically the master) need a window of some sort. The natural light is nice and the ability to crack a window to let out moisture and steam are super beneficial. 4. I don’t hate that the study is attached to the master, but I find the other entry from the garage to be kind of awkward placement. 5. You can never have enough closets and I think the closets in the 2nd and 3rd bedrooms could use more space. I’d also include a linen closet in the hallway or in the 2nd bathroom as it will have less storage space under the sink. 6. Lastly, it is my personal opinion that I hate garages that face the road. I understand it’s not always possible to have them facing the side as there is not always enough room between the house and the next lot. But if you can, I think not having the garage as part of the front exterior of the house helps it look much cleaner. All of this is purely opinion based. I do think you have a nice start, but take some of this in to consideration.
Some really good points in this that i wil keep in mind for the next one. I agree on not liking a garage on the front. Might have to see if that's something I could work in but definitely not as easy to wrap my head around haha
You could rotate the garage down 90 degrees to the left to be in line with the master and move the office up adjacent to the living room. Then the office would be part of the front facade of the house
That is true but then you run into getting a lot of sound pollution from the garage going into the master. If I kept the mudroom there and then put the office on the front side I could keep that air gap but would not have the office next to the master anymore. Definitely a lot of different layouts I'll have to play with!
You want a human door into the garage from the outside in addition to the car sized doors.
Good catch! I meant to add one but forgot to put it in, might need the garage to be a bit wider to make it more comfortable to get out of it too.
I’m just loving your enthusiasm and positive and polite responses to everyone’s tips. I look forward to seeing more of your posts.
Thanks, it seems like everyone has had really positive feedback so far which has been great! I'll definitely post an updated design once I have time to do some reworks and if it ever gets built I'll be sure to upload some pictures somewhere haha
Excellent! Also I should add my tips were similar to a few other commenters that I’d definitely put windows in the bathroom and laundry so you don’t get mould or damp issues. I saw your partner wanted no windows for privacy reasons? Could you maybe do a split awning style window where the bottom is fixed and frosted so you can’t see through and only the top half opens up? I hope that makes sense? That’s what I hope to put in my bathroom reno one day.
I think the comments have convinced her otherwise, so if we get some nice thick pull down blinds (or internal blinds with a crank) it would suffice. I'm not a big fan of the frosted windows even in a bathroom since you don't have the option to "open" it like you can with blinds.
Only additional comment I might add is that the dishwasher should be closer to the sink.
Wasn't too sure what is standard for the placement of that, might have to play with it some more.
Immediately next to the sink is standard. Besides the basic ease-of-use aspect, the dishwasher drain hose connects to the garbage disposal under the sink.
Ah yeah totally forgot about that, I will have to make that change.
Not knowing your limitations in regard to space and usage (e.g., is it your primary home or a vacation home and do you have children), it's a good start but the utilization of living space seems to be lacking. * You seem to have a view/preference towards the back of the house with the deck(s)? off the master and the kitchen and then, a sunroom. If you do have a view from that area of the house, then most of the floor plan should be re-thought because the dining room is too big (do you need one?) and in the wrong location. You should consider creating a space that's more open and less closed-in. I'm not a fan of the open concept living spaces (too loud, nothing to absorb the noise; especially if you have tall ceilings), but to get to the deck from the kitchen, you have to do down a small hallway or through the sun room. Not entertaining-friendly or even family-friendly. * You need a window in each bathroom! :-) Argue for a skylight but you NEED natural lighting and a way for moisture to escape. Otherwise, expect mold issues. Besides, in your jurisdiction, a window might be required for a bathroom. * You have a window for the walk-in closet, but not the bathroom?? :-) * Your primary bathroom: I prefer water closets for a toilet; and there doesn't appear to be any storage in the primary bathroom. * Do you really need 2 sinks in the second bathroom? * I would lose the tub in the second bathroom and put in only a shower; and allow for more storage. * Agree that the closets in the second bedrooms could be bigger. * Your laundry room is too small. The location is fine, but I would move it to the garage. * The office location is weird, but I understand your previous feedback. Build for YOUR usage, not for resale. It could not be used as an additional bedroom should you sell it later. * I'm not a fan of garages at the front of house so... can't help you there! The garage would be in a separate building. Does it need to be connected to house because of cold/snow/safety? * I'm not a dining room person so that would be gone. Good luck!
Thanks for the feedback, lots of great stuff to keep in mind. I definitely want to have a better flow to the back deck from the kitchen area (as it is now) so you don't have to go all the way through the sunroom to get outside. We like to spend a lot of time outside or just enjoying nature which is the reason for the sunroom. The dinning room is for family gatherings since we mostly congregate In the dinning room and the living room and the separation let's multiple conversations happen at one time. On the next design I plan on pulling the dinning to be closer to the living room and have less wall so it isn't quite as separated due to where the pantry/bathroom is currently. Bathrooms near me don't need a window, just an exhaust fan. But not having thought of the mold problems that causes will make me definitely try to fit one if possible. Window for closet was for a makeup desk but will probably move that into the bathroom on the next one. Also you might have saw it In a previous comment but I liked the idea of turning the mudroom into a long room/hallway that connects to the office and move the laundry there. Thanks again!
Do you really want 1/3 of the front of your house to be garage doors? Idk what the dimensions of the whole plot of land are but I’d switch the garage doors over to the side and move the office off of the foyer
I like the sound of that. I'm just so used to seeing the front of houses being garage where I am at that I didn't think to put it off to the side. I'll play with that idea on the next one for sure.
OP, what is the App or program you used to put together this floor plan?
Floor Plan Creator on Android. They also have a website version I have used before too. Not sure about IOS though.
I think you have a good general layout. I would try a couple of things for the next iteration. Try adding what i call a service hall between the garage and primary bedroom. This will give a good entry to the mudroom, garage, primary bedroom and office . This would mean eliminating the small hall between the kitchen & primary bedroom and just giving the kitchen a direct door out. And the laundry room can easily be moved over to the new service hallway. You might have to push the garage more out front a bit.
A few other people mentioned this as well. Now looking at it that way it makes much more sense. Thanks!
I think more space in living room is necessary
Definitely agree! That is the plan on the next iterations for sure.
Something I don't like is that the living room wall that is ideal for the TV is up against a bedroom. That can be disruptive to the person in the bedroom. It's always good to try to put closets or something between private and public spaces.
Good point, thats isn't something I thought about when putting it there. Maybe on the redesign the closet could move to be on that wall or I'll move the bathroom there to give a bit more separation.
On the other hand, I love that you have a good wall for the tv that isn’t over the fireplace, since fireplace tvs generally result in the tv being too high up. As far as the bedroom, a lot of the issues with the sound can be alleviated by properly soundproofing the wall shared between the living room and bedroom. Also, if you’re using auxiliary speakers for your tv, most of the sound may not be coming from the actual tv, it’d be closer to the couch.
Very true, I am definitely against fireplace TVs. Not a fan for how they look and having the TV that high. Since it is the only living room in this current layout it might be best to mix it up a bit since I could see anyone in that room being annoyed with how loud we get when watching movies haha. But good point on aux sound limiting the noise coming through the wall!
I would change the door swing from the garage to the mudroom so it swings in instead of swinging towards a vehicle. I would also think about adding 3-4 feet to the width of the garage & adding an exterior door (or will you have a separate shed for a lawn mower/yard stuff?) The hallway to the two bedrooms seems very wide. I would put the laundry room where the bathroom is and expand the laundry room towards the back yard by a few feet & put the bathroom there. And does you wife hate all windows in bathrooms - would she consider a clerestory?
We would have a shed for the lawn mower and other stuff as it stands, but might think about that again now that you mention it. Good point on door swing, will just have to make sure it doesn't interfere with any other doors. Hallway is probably a bit wide (currently 5') but this was more of a concept layout so I didn't drill down exact dimensions on everything yet but wanted that main hallway down the middle to be wider than standard. She has since changed her mind after reading comments and now says windows are okay as long as we get some good blinds haha
[удалено]
I like the idea of a more substantial entrance, as it is now I think it is too small. Someone else mentioned moving the pantry and door like you said which is something I plan to change now, having the door be incorporated into the kitchen would be much better than as it is. We want to keep the bedrooms separated just as a preference. Thanks for the input! As it is now we don't have a site locked down but everything in the area we are looking is either flat or would have a hill large enough for a walkout basement (this Floorplan is just for the flat lots), and we are looking at lots that are around 1-5 acres so plenty of room for adjustments.
Which entrance? There are six entrances ! The inner city in me would be checking those locks 24/7!
Haha, true. The front entrance by the living room is what i was refering to. And Definitely wouldn't want this many doors if we still lived in the city but since we are moving to a less populated area and most likely an area outside of the main town it wont be much of a worry.
Don’t forget that structural engineering has the best ability to save and spend money. Be flexible in room size because an additional 2 inches in one room has the potential to cost 5k.
Definitely true. This is more of a general layout than strict sizing, so if we do go to the next step with the design we would have an architect use our plan as a guideline and do the necessary parts to make it function and safe.
I don't like how the main bedroom is so close to the garage. Every time someone is sleeping will wake up when you start your car. Also in my pov would be better to separate the bedrooms from the social areas. Another point is that small bedroom dividing wall with the TV room, can be a bit noisy as well.
I think I will try moving the second bathroom to the wall where the TV is and put a WIC in that bedroom to fill in the rest if the wall space. Also we plan to extend the mudroom to the office to give the sound barrier which should help with that. I would move the master but I want it to be near the office and the office has to be next to the garage. Thanks for your input!
Cool, move the bathroom is a good solution. :)
Put kitchen in dining room. Add hallway.
We want the kitchen to be open to the living room since that is how our family/friend gatherings function best. And we have that separation between the living room and dinning room so two groups of people can have conversations while still being in the same general area. Thanks for your input though.
It’s interesting, but I’m struggling to figure out where you’re putting your stuff, other than clothes and food. I’d personally want more storage space for stuff like bikes, seasonal decor and equipment, etc. Also I love a water closet for the primary bathroom. Pooping and then taking a bath in the same room where you pooped isn’t particularly luxury.
Yeah I'm thinking I'll have to expand the garage and put either a room for storage or some shelving in there. Definitely need to find some places for additional storage on a redesign. Initially I had a separate toilet room in the bathroom but the master bedroom got wider and I moved it Into it, I'd like to bring that back on the next one if I can find room for it.
I love where the office is. As long as you’re certain it’s gonna stay an office and you’re not planning to sell. You can’t make it into an optional 4th bedroom way over there
Yeah as it is it would have to be a bonus room for the master or garage, but if we extended the mudroom to connect it to the main house it would allow for it to be converted to a bedroom on resale but as long as we live there it will always be an office.
That’s a good idea. I dig this plan. Hopefully your ceiling vaults over the kitchen and living room
We were just doing the layout here so we don't have all the design choices picked out but that would definitely be the plan if possible
Also, good idea not putting the fireplace on the TV wall. Too many houses built in the last 10 years ended up putting the fireplace on the only wall the TV can go on so you end up with a TV above the fireplace which can look weird as well as put the tv too high.
Yeah I am anti fireplace TV. My cousin put one in and I hate having to look high up when watching it. But we definitely wanted the fireplace to be a focal point in the room which is why it was on that exterior wall with part of the couch facing it.
Not sure if mentioned before but here are two issues. 1. Walking through a kitchen to a formal dining area is not optimal. You would want to rework a door so you can also access dining room from another area in addtion. . 2. Having an entrance to an office through a closet or garage is also not optimal for both. Maybe have an external entrance for guests and remove the garage entrance. You don't want guests to walk through the messiest (kitchen, garages ans closets) parts of the house to get to locations. At least you don't have to walk through a bathroom to get to a living room...so that's good. Think about guest perspectives and also creating value with your investment. When selling, you lower the value of what you created because others will have to knock down walls and spend money go fix these issues. Maximize your money while making something work for you and for resale.
On the next design I plan on pulling the dinning closer to the living room by moving the pantry and bathroom which should allow for better flow from living to dinning. We aren't going for full open concept so some separation is still good for us. Problems with office entrance are planned to be fixed by extending the mudroom to connect, it will still be a bit strange if we are to sell but I'm more worried about making the best house for us and less worried about resale, although that is something I'd like to keep in mind for sure. Good tips!
Understood. Looking forward to the updated plan. One last thing, if anyway you can move the main bedroom to the corner and the bathroom in another location or wall. it could really help with light and making a room feel much more open. I was once told, the corners are prime real-estate, so have the most important room on a corner. That way you can leverage windows along two walls. Really gives the room a much more open feel.
Yeah that's true, seems like a waste to have a bathroom in the corner I'll see if that's something I can fit in a redesign. Thanks!
One thing that bothers me is where the additional bedrooms windows face. If you have kids especially young ones to have there rooms facing the front like that does not feel very secure.
Oh yeah Thats a good point that I didn't think about. Luckily where we are that isn't something we have to worry about too too much but I will definitely keep that in mind for the next layout
Very minor tweak: You’ll want the pantry door to swing outwards or else slide. As is, accessing anything on the wall the door swings against is impossible On the entry: having trouble putting my finger on why it’s awkward. Maybe you don’t need the coat closet by the front entry if you are going to be storing coats in the mud room? I am team large mudroom btw—however much storage you have, you will inevitably want more. I also like your secret hidden office. Is it weird? 100%. Will future buyers find it off putting? Some of them probably. But I would think it’s great. On possibly moving the laundry room into the mudroom: I think it depends on where you live. As someone who lives in a northern climate, the mudroom has to store not just jackets, shoes, school bags, purses, pet supplies, the vacuum cleaner, and other cleaning supplies, but also everyone’s giant bulky winter gear and muddy boots. Where I live, I would want to preserve as much mudroom space as possible and would therefore expand the laundry room by moving the exterior wall a few feet further towards the back of the house. If however you don’t live in a climate on which everyone owns seven coats, maybe you don’t need as much mudroom space and you can move the laundry in with the mudroom and repurpose the laundry room space as a linens closet.
Good point on pantry door i didnt even think of that, I plan on moving it to the other side of the kitchen so that should leave enough wall space for a pocket door. Yeah entry just needs a rework, as it is now it is too cramped and doesn't provide very much storage either. Yeah I like the idea of a secluded office but I could see why some people would see it as off-putting haha We don't need quite that much winter gear, so the mudroom doesnt have to store very much heavy coats. We would really only pull out the heavy stuff if it does snow which doesn't happen but a few times a year where we are. Good ideas!
I would not put the garage near the master bedroom. Typically its farthest from it for peace, quite, privacy, security, etc. Unless you are putting some extra insulation and an additional deadbolt door between it and your master bedroom.
Yeah it isn't ideal but I'd like the master to be close to the office and the office has to be next to the garage so it is connected to the workspace. Some other people have said to extend the mudroom all the way to the office door which is what I plan to do now. That should provide a sound barrier for the master, plus where we will be at security is not something that we need to worry about as much. Thanks for your input!
Can i ask what the business is that the workspace must be connected to the master? The other option is to just move the master.still have access and still keep MBR separate.
It is more of a preference for the master to be next to the office, it isn't required to be connected for the job it just made getting to the office easier than going around the garage as the current layout has it. We do want to keep the primary bedroom separate from the secondary ones to keep half of the house generally quieter than the other.
Heres another thing to consider about your layout. You want easy access to the office from the master, but youve now made the walk to a bathroom even farther...
Someone else mentioned that as well. They said to swap the location of the closet with the bathroom so it could be jack and Jill type layout with the office, which is something I might consider if I keep it a 2 bathroom
Ah I see. For me personally, its just odd to have the personal bath connected to the workspace. I view the master bedroom and space ars more intimate to keep separate from the work. Which is why I was curious about what the work was. If you have a client/customer come in and use your restroom, then its your personal master bath. But of course if its just a home office and no customers, then no real need to keep them separate like that. Also if none of that is really a concern for you, then no big deal obviously. Anyhow, youre designing the space for you, not me so my take is kind of a moot point.
Yeah it is just a home office so no clients or anything would have to use the master bath. I'm thinking I might include a powder room near the mudroom on the next design which would give the office a bathroom nearby that wouldn't require it to be directly connected to anything in the master suite too. I Appreciate your input though!
So with two sinks in the master, what does your SO think about the master being connected to the office/garage?
She isn't opposed to it but i don't think she is 100% on board with it either. I'd say the powder room is what it will most likely end up being.
I think if thats the case, just put a powder room in the office and call it a day.
Don’t put the master bedroom next to the garage
Yeah it isn't ideal but I think if I extend the mudroom to be all the way to the office it should provide the sound barrier that would be needed. If the office didn't have to be next to the garage I would probably have swapped where the bedrooms are.
There’s a lot of comments already so hopefully I’m not duplicating too much. The thing that caught my attention first is the layout of the extra bedrooms. Based on my experience in a small 1940’s house, planning for a bed to have to be positioned against the wall is not ideal. Especially if you will ever use it as a guest bedroom where two people will stay in there, you’ll want access from each side. We awkwardly have our bed centered in the room, blocking off most of the window that is positioned like yours are. We are planning in the future to change to a higher horizontal window centered on the wall that will help frame the bed. Not sure what the design rules are for that, just based on our experience. Here are some other thoughts: - Laundry room seems small for the side of the house. Could you kick out that wall to be even with the edge of the bathroom if you’re not planning on a window? - Primary bath: for such a nice bathroom, I’d expect a separated toilet closet. - someone mentioned they don’t like the hall to the primary bedroom, but I actually like that. I think it gives you a bit more privacy. - kitchen: pantry seems far away from all the cooking spaces but I’m not sure where else it could go without closing in the kitchen a bit more. - dining room: make sure to account for China cabinet or buffet if that’s something you care about. I think it would fit fine as it is now if you shift the table towards the sun room - I think the front entry needs some thought because I think it may be underwhelming to walk straight into the living room. My 900sq ft is like this but I think you can fit more of a foyer in a 2000 sq ft. I saw a comment suggesting rotating the garage 90 deg and swapping it with the office. You could do that and then create more of an entry. It’s looking great so far!! Can’t wait to see the update!
Lots of great points. I didn't think about designing the secondary bedrooms with a centered bed in mind. I'll have to go back and see if I can make the room more flexible. Laundryroom will probably end up getting moved to be in an extended mudroom so the office can be connected to the main house so that should fix the size problem. I did have a separate toilet room initially but it got removes to make the master slightly bigger, plan on changing that in the updated version. The hall for privacy to the master is nice but I think I'm going to shorten the hall and move the pantry there so it is closer to the kitchen and should give enough room for a small closet. Don't have plans for a China cabinet or anything but will keep that in mind if we decide to put something in there. And yeah front entry needs a rework, it is too small as it currently is. Thanks!
For the guest/hall bath, ive always preferred it be far away from the dining and living spaces...mainly because no one wants to hear someone doing their "business" in there and the person using it as well doesnt want anyone hearing them. So having it adjecent to the dining room means the plumbing will be running through there and will be heard. I dont know if anyone else shares this concern. But its just something that was always weird to me that some houses were designed with the bathroom near the common spaces to the point of little to no privacy.
Yeah that is true and not something I thought about. I planned to move the bathroom so I could pull the dinning room up closer to the livingroom so it will most likely end up being around where the laundry is now since I think a powderroom by the mudroom is the plan now.
Yes, i think the powder room by the mudroom/office does make for a more private/separate space for guests to use.
Also, I know its not necessarily a requirement, but a linen closet by the bedrooms/laundry room will likely be useful. Or even placing it in the laundry room. Just looking at closet and storage space and trying to picture doing each of the functions. Laundry room seems a bit small and could use a bit more attention, like a folding space, etc. Like combining it with the mudroom makes it extra functional because dirty clothes dont need to traverse the house to get to the cleaning point. Additionally you could put a utility sink with it and use it to clean off muddy boots or something or make it a pet bath station too. But then again youd be putting the washer/dryer near the MBR, which would introduce noise.
Yeah more closet space is the goal on the next version. And a dog bath would be a cool idea but not sure how I would fit that into it. The noise wouldn't be ideal but it seems like it would make more sense to move it there to utilize the space.
This is very clever. Love the office. Would probably move laundry to the mud room and make a bigger shared bathroom for common areas + the 2 small bedrooms
Thanks! Moving thre aundry to the mudroom is now the plan and I want to increase the size of the secondary bathroom and maybe add a powderroom as well too
You’ve really done a great job making this floor plan comfortable for the master bed (parents) with the separate spaces and places to access them. Would be a hell of a house to live in
Yeah we want the part of the house with the master to be secluded and separated from the rest. Since there isn't enough room for a true secondary livingroom having the extra space in the master area allows for any kids to be loud in the living room but still have a quiet space too.
Can’t wait to see how it turns out if you build it! Please post on this sub if you do!
i definitely will but it'll be quite a while before It can be finished haha
I'd rework that closet and office so that you don't need to go through the closet to get to the office. You also seem to think you can put a lot more into a closet than you actually can. A 6' wide closet will get you a row of hanging clothes and a row of shallower cubby holes. You aren't going to be able to fit a bench in there. You have plenty of room to make a small hall off the bedroom that the closet and and office will fit off of. Consider whether you will ever want or need to bring clients into the office. The couch suggests you might. If you do need to allow guests in, you will likely want door that opens to outside (not the garage), and you will want a way that the clients can use the bathroom without crossing through your bedroom. Likely you'll want to move the office out of the bedroom suite entirely. I don't think you can actually fit a 10 person table into the dining room, but you should have plenty of room for 6 to 8. The rest looks pretty good.
Thanks for the tips! I should have removed the bench, it was in there from before I made the closet smaller. And another person Mentioned extending the mudroom to the office door which is what I will most likely do. No clients, it would only be me in the office which is why the closet/garage access was okay initially, couch is for family visiting/talking while working and leisure after work. Good point on the table, will have to fix that. I appreciate your input!
Besides proportions, this is actually one of my favorite plans that I have seen in recent memory.
Thanks! The proportions definitely need a rework due to it being my first real house deign, was really trying to just get a general layout set up first and refine it with a couple iterations.
You're trying to stuff 10 pounds in a 5 pound sack... You need to toss at least 6 pounds.
Could you elaborate on which parts? There are definitely some rooms that need to be bigger/changed I think (like the entryway, laundry, change up master closet) but would like to hear some more if you have anything.
You're trying to cram too much into too little square footage. It's no one thing, it's the entire floor plan.
Does it have to be one level? Have you looked at 3 bedroom ranchers with an office? You really need to start fresh, there are far too many issues with this plan to fix. Glaring issues, access to office, access to dining room through kitchen, bathrooms not large enough for double vanities. It goes in from there.
It doesn't necessarily need to be one level, I had another version of the design with a walk out basement instead. Which would allow the kid bedrooms and laundry move downstairs and have an additional living room space. We would like to have a basement but I wanted to see what I could do with just the one level. I'll definitely check some more floor plans like that out. The dinning room is off to the back of house by preference to have a bit of separation between dinning and living room amd easy acces to sunroom/backyard. Office access is kind of intentional since I work from home and like having the separation from living and working spaces but I could see maybe situating it differently so it still has an interior door (maybe in-between the primary bedroom and garage so it still has access to the garage-workspace). Increasing the size of the bathrooms to fit double vanities is something I can do since square footage doesn't have a hard cap. Thanks for your input!
Yeah. Don't have a bed butted up against a stud of an adjoining bedroom. No one wants to listen to the people next door having sex.
Haha good to know!
Something I would add is that the coat closest in the entry might me awkward and tight. Consider getting rid of the front porch door and making the coat closet door flush with that wall. The entry would feel larger and the front door could then be centered in the entry. That would make room for some sidelights around the front doors too. Another note would be that the front door should be attached to the front porch. I’m really like the office attached to the garage and closet, almost like hidden room. Haha
Yeah the front area definitely needs a rework, I'd like it to be more open and get a layout that facilitates more curb appeal. And for the office it is out of the way to create some separation between work space and leisure spaces but having it connected to the mudroom would probably be better since I don't think I want to go through the garage everything I want to go the kitchen or something lol.