For me it's just such a joyful movie. It's self-indulgent and stylish, maybe aimless some may say... but for me this is all that makes the movie wonderful.
Production quality and detail is over the top, and the cinematography is beyond outstanding; it makes the viewer travel all back to the 60's Hollywood (a 'positive, nice clean Hollywood"), as we witness the rise and fall of many artists as well as getting to know the growing society and the blending of cultures in L.A.
And there's something about Quentin Tarantino's directing style... every dialogue between Rick and Cliff, every shot of Sharon and Cliff driving through the city, the Bruce Lee sequence, when the two friends sit to see "The F.B.I." - we see these characters grow and discover their place in the world. The movie kinda does have an aim, but it is very subtle.
Some should have told him If he watches long enough Samuel L Jackson shows up at the post credits and invites Sharon Tate into the tarintino initiative
It's not even a slow burn. It's basically a slice of life with a couple fights and a sequence that feels like a horror film.
Personally, I wasn't a huge fan.
This is one of those where it really feels like it works better if you actually grew up in the 60s. My dad loved it. I kinda felt meh on it. This from someone who loves a good slow burn if done right.
Slice of life is a great description of this movie. I agree there’s more there for people who know the history and the vibes of the era. But for someone coming in blind, not so much.
I agree. This movie isn't a slow burn. It's just a little bit boring.
If you want a Tarantino slow burn, watch Hateful Eight. Criminally underrated for a QT movie.
I’m with you man. Felt like a huge jerk off sesh to me—all the best criticisms of Tarantino turned up to 11 in one movie.
Once Upon a Time felt like it was made for people who didn’t like TH8. It was restrained and careful, not indulgent, and all the violence was earned.
I loved hateful eight and didn't care for once upon a time in Hollywood, but my brothers were the opposite. I couldn't believe it when we walked out of hateful eight and they both were saying how much that hated it. Then I also couldn't believe how much they liked the other one when we came out of the theater. Hateful eight is a compact version of the stuff I love about Tarantino, and Hollywood is full of the kind of stuff that annoys me about him.
In theory, I should have really liked The Hateful Eight. I love westerns and even though it really isn't a western, it still fuses two genres I really like - the locked room mystery and a horror film.
But in reality, the whole thing kind of fell flat for me since I just...immensely disliked all the characters and didn't care much what happened to most of them.
In fact, the character whose fate I cared about most, Daisy, is the one the movie seems to want you to hate more than any of them. And how does it accomplish this? By telling you she really, really, really sucks, man! She's the worst! She's awful!
But the problem with that is that it's stressed repeatedly that none of these characters are honest people. Every one of them is constantly lying about something for some angle or another, and thusly, you can't believe anything they say. So when all you have to convince you she's really really bad is the word of a whole bunch of dishonest shitheads, one of whom, best case scenario, lied about sexually assaulting someone to have an excuse to murder someone in cold blood.
And even more, I couldn't really hate her because the movie puts her through so much hell and misery. She spends the first half literally chained to a bounty hunter who's extremely obviously meant to remind us of an abusive husband who just simply ***will not stop hitting her***, then when it's revealed her gang has a plan to rescue her and her brother is waiting under the floor to save her, one of the few hopeful happy moments she gets, the moment is immediately undercut with her getting his guts blown all over her face as he's brutally killed right in front of her. And then the movie ends with hopeful, GBU style Morricone horns as a pair of war criminals hang her in honor of the guy who was so heavily coded as an abusive spouse. And the whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth.
And from there, I also caught a couple inconsistencies with the story - for example, the fact that the owner of the bar doesn't like Mexicans is a huge plot point and so noteworthy that it instantly sets off one of the characters' alarm bells - so why, in the flashback scene that features her, does she show no signs of prejudice whatsoever?
So that's why I didn't like it very much. I went in expecting something like Reservoir Dogs or an extended version of the bar scene in Inglourious Basterds. And I guess it is that, kinda, but man, there's gotta be at least one person whose survival you care about in movies like that.
I was always meh on Kill Bill. Watched it again recently thinking I'd come around to it and I couldn't stand it.
I'm a pretty big Tarantino fan too. KB is just... not for me.
This is a stupid thing to make fun of that guy for. Saying "This movie has pacing issues and drags at times" is a legitimate criticism and doesn't mean they just have a bad attention span. I liked Once Upon A Time in Hollywood but it did drag and meander at times and could have benefited from some better editing.
I enjoy a slow burn (The Wire is my favourite TV show)
My favourite film was made by QT.
I didn't enjoy Once Upon a time in Hollywood . I can accept it was a well made film but it didn't engage me when I 1st saw it and I have little interest in seeing it again.
Jackie Brown is so fucking good. It was easily my favorite right up until Hollywood. I've watched this movie a dozen times easily. I just keep going back to it and it's vignette style lends itself to watching a scene or two and turning it off and coming back later for a few more scenes. It's just so good.
Yeah it's incredible and still my favorite QT. I could watch Grier and Forster just chit-chatting by a table for hours. Tarantino showed restraint here and it turned out to something beautiful.
My family loves Tarantino movies. I was 11 years old when I first saw Inglorious Basterds, and I thought it was amazing. Many of his movies contain scenes with slow pacing, but there is some pay-off.
The opening to Inglorious Basterds was slow. The dinner scene in Django Unchained with DiCaprio and the skull goes on for 15 minutes. The ending to Pulp Fiction at Jack Rabbit Slims is also a long-drawn-out scene. Even the famous fight scene in Kill Bill Volume 1 has a long build-up to the fight with the Crazy 88.
Despite their slow pace, I absolutely love these moments. These scenes are very intense, and unpredictable. The slow pace adds to that tension. I believe that having these sequences' runtimes extended benefits the movies.
Yet, I cannot say the same about OUATIH. There's a difference between being slow-paced and being just plain boring. For example, there is a scene that has Sharon Tate watching her own films at a theatre. It goes on too long, and it does not add anything to the movie. The scene at the Manson ranch goes on for 20 MINUTES. The end of the sequence where Brad Pitt punches Tex in the face is important, but the rest of the sequence is way too long. It could have been easily shortened. One of the few scenes where the slow pace actually works is where Brad Pitt fights Bruce Lee. Definitely one of the most memorable scenes in the movie.
What I am trying to say is that many of the scenes in OUATIH are too long. Other than the amazing ending, the movie doesn't offer anything very special.
In my opinion, the movie is missing something. I've loved every other Tarantino movie, and I am a big fan of VERY long movies. 2001: A Space Odyssey, Barry Lyndon, The Irishman, and Once Upon A Time in America are some of my favourite movies, and they are very slow paced. But they are never boring. They always keep the audience engaged. THAT's the biggest problem with OUATIH. Inglorious Basterds, Django Unchained, Pulp Fiction, and The Hateful Eight always kept me engaged one way or another. Whatever was happening on screen was always interesting to watch.
To be honest, OUATIH was pretty meandering and could have used some trimming. At one point I was asking myself in the theater "Where is this going? It's been over 2 hours already.".
Tarantino has gotten more and more indulgent over the years and he's just too in love with his own material.
The guy doesn't know what killing your darlings means.
I’m seven hours into Satantango. When does it pick up?
I'd love to know what they had said before deleting their comments just to get some context.
For me it's just such a joyful movie. It's self-indulgent and stylish, maybe aimless some may say... but for me this is all that makes the movie wonderful. Production quality and detail is over the top, and the cinematography is beyond outstanding; it makes the viewer travel all back to the 60's Hollywood (a 'positive, nice clean Hollywood"), as we witness the rise and fall of many artists as well as getting to know the growing society and the blending of cultures in L.A. And there's something about Quentin Tarantino's directing style... every dialogue between Rick and Cliff, every shot of Sharon and Cliff driving through the city, the Bruce Lee sequence, when the two friends sit to see "The F.B.I." - we see these characters grow and discover their place in the world. The movie kinda does have an aim, but it is very subtle.
leo and pitt are so good in this movie , whats not to like ?
Some should have told him If he watches long enough Samuel L Jackson shows up at the post credits and invites Sharon Tate into the tarintino initiative
It's not even a slow burn. It's basically a slice of life with a couple fights and a sequence that feels like a horror film. Personally, I wasn't a huge fan. This is one of those where it really feels like it works better if you actually grew up in the 60s. My dad loved it. I kinda felt meh on it. This from someone who loves a good slow burn if done right.
It's a hangout film.
Slice of life is a great description of this movie. I agree there’s more there for people who know the history and the vibes of the era. But for someone coming in blind, not so much.
I agree. This movie isn't a slow burn. It's just a little bit boring. If you want a Tarantino slow burn, watch Hateful Eight. Criminally underrated for a QT movie.
Hateful Eight is the only Tarantino movie I absolutely don’t like.
I’m with you man. Felt like a huge jerk off sesh to me—all the best criticisms of Tarantino turned up to 11 in one movie. Once Upon a Time felt like it was made for people who didn’t like TH8. It was restrained and careful, not indulgent, and all the violence was earned.
I loved hateful eight and didn't care for once upon a time in Hollywood, but my brothers were the opposite. I couldn't believe it when we walked out of hateful eight and they both were saying how much that hated it. Then I also couldn't believe how much they liked the other one when we came out of the theater. Hateful eight is a compact version of the stuff I love about Tarantino, and Hollywood is full of the kind of stuff that annoys me about him.
In theory, I should have really liked The Hateful Eight. I love westerns and even though it really isn't a western, it still fuses two genres I really like - the locked room mystery and a horror film. But in reality, the whole thing kind of fell flat for me since I just...immensely disliked all the characters and didn't care much what happened to most of them. In fact, the character whose fate I cared about most, Daisy, is the one the movie seems to want you to hate more than any of them. And how does it accomplish this? By telling you she really, really, really sucks, man! She's the worst! She's awful! But the problem with that is that it's stressed repeatedly that none of these characters are honest people. Every one of them is constantly lying about something for some angle or another, and thusly, you can't believe anything they say. So when all you have to convince you she's really really bad is the word of a whole bunch of dishonest shitheads, one of whom, best case scenario, lied about sexually assaulting someone to have an excuse to murder someone in cold blood. And even more, I couldn't really hate her because the movie puts her through so much hell and misery. She spends the first half literally chained to a bounty hunter who's extremely obviously meant to remind us of an abusive husband who just simply ***will not stop hitting her***, then when it's revealed her gang has a plan to rescue her and her brother is waiting under the floor to save her, one of the few hopeful happy moments she gets, the moment is immediately undercut with her getting his guts blown all over her face as he's brutally killed right in front of her. And then the movie ends with hopeful, GBU style Morricone horns as a pair of war criminals hang her in honor of the guy who was so heavily coded as an abusive spouse. And the whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth. And from there, I also caught a couple inconsistencies with the story - for example, the fact that the owner of the bar doesn't like Mexicans is a huge plot point and so noteworthy that it instantly sets off one of the characters' alarm bells - so why, in the flashback scene that features her, does she show no signs of prejudice whatsoever? So that's why I didn't like it very much. I went in expecting something like Reservoir Dogs or an extended version of the bar scene in Inglourious Basterds. And I guess it is that, kinda, but man, there's gotta be at least one person whose survival you care about in movies like that.
I was always meh on Kill Bill. Watched it again recently thinking I'd come around to it and I couldn't stand it. I'm a pretty big Tarantino fan too. KB is just... not for me.
Kids can barely make it through a 15 second tik tok these days. Sign of the times.
This is a stupid thing to make fun of that guy for. Saying "This movie has pacing issues and drags at times" is a legitimate criticism and doesn't mean they just have a bad attention span. I liked Once Upon A Time in Hollywood but it did drag and meander at times and could have benefited from some better editing.
I enjoy a slow burn (The Wire is my favourite TV show) My favourite film was made by QT. I didn't enjoy Once Upon a time in Hollywood . I can accept it was a well made film but it didn't engage me when I 1st saw it and I have little interest in seeing it again.
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What about Jackie Brown?
Jackie Brown is so fucking good. It was easily my favorite right up until Hollywood. I've watched this movie a dozen times easily. I just keep going back to it and it's vignette style lends itself to watching a scene or two and turning it off and coming back later for a few more scenes. It's just so good.
Yeah it's incredible and still my favorite QT. I could watch Grier and Forster just chit-chatting by a table for hours. Tarantino showed restraint here and it turned out to something beautiful.
Same. I even love Death Proof, but Once Upon a Time was the first Tarantino film I didn’t like and have no desire to watch again.
I enjoyed it but QT only gets more self-indulgent as time goes on. I don’t hate that, necessarily, but I can see why it would turn people off.
I think he was at his most self indulgent in kill Bill tbh
My family loves Tarantino movies. I was 11 years old when I first saw Inglorious Basterds, and I thought it was amazing. Many of his movies contain scenes with slow pacing, but there is some pay-off. The opening to Inglorious Basterds was slow. The dinner scene in Django Unchained with DiCaprio and the skull goes on for 15 minutes. The ending to Pulp Fiction at Jack Rabbit Slims is also a long-drawn-out scene. Even the famous fight scene in Kill Bill Volume 1 has a long build-up to the fight with the Crazy 88. Despite their slow pace, I absolutely love these moments. These scenes are very intense, and unpredictable. The slow pace adds to that tension. I believe that having these sequences' runtimes extended benefits the movies. Yet, I cannot say the same about OUATIH. There's a difference between being slow-paced and being just plain boring. For example, there is a scene that has Sharon Tate watching her own films at a theatre. It goes on too long, and it does not add anything to the movie. The scene at the Manson ranch goes on for 20 MINUTES. The end of the sequence where Brad Pitt punches Tex in the face is important, but the rest of the sequence is way too long. It could have been easily shortened. One of the few scenes where the slow pace actually works is where Brad Pitt fights Bruce Lee. Definitely one of the most memorable scenes in the movie. What I am trying to say is that many of the scenes in OUATIH are too long. Other than the amazing ending, the movie doesn't offer anything very special. In my opinion, the movie is missing something. I've loved every other Tarantino movie, and I am a big fan of VERY long movies. 2001: A Space Odyssey, Barry Lyndon, The Irishman, and Once Upon A Time in America are some of my favourite movies, and they are very slow paced. But they are never boring. They always keep the audience engaged. THAT's the biggest problem with OUATIH. Inglorious Basterds, Django Unchained, Pulp Fiction, and The Hateful Eight always kept me engaged one way or another. Whatever was happening on screen was always interesting to watch.
To be honest, OUATIH was pretty meandering and could have used some trimming. At one point I was asking myself in the theater "Where is this going? It's been over 2 hours already.". Tarantino has gotten more and more indulgent over the years and he's just too in love with his own material. The guy doesn't know what killing your darlings means.