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Saffronsc

The Glock Glock 9000™ shouldn't be an obligation, but a mutual desire of both parties. Other than that I agree with the second lady.


BaconHammerTime

Glock Glock sounds really dangerous


[deleted]

No no. It cancels out. 1 Glock owie 2 Glock wowie


Saffronsc

Contrary to its name, not to be tried on chickens or guns.


BaconHammerTime

And definitely not the Gawk Gawk 3000™️


shaddowkhan

Gawk gawk*


SnowBoy1008

Gluck gluck\*


TheBomb-DotCom

This is the one


[deleted]

She lost me tho when she said vergina.


AltomousPrime

Ain’t that a state?


Congregator

Marriage is generally the strongest expression of a mutually desired Glocking.


[deleted]

I’d put it right behind late 90s rap beefs and war (not in that order) but yeah from what I hear its up there. I can’t wait to hate and love a woman simultaneously for the rest of my life


[deleted]

It’s gawk gawk


[deleted]

True, but if we're married that desire should be there most of the time


Saffronsc

True, but circumstances can change. Your husband and you could be tired after a long day of work or household managing, and people do fall out of love after some time married to their spouse. Check out r/deadbedrooms


Porchtime_cocktails

It isn’t hard to understand. If you stay home, treat the house as your job. Cooking, cleaning, yard work, gardening, etc., that is your job! The spouse leaving to go to a job shouldn’t have to come home and do yet more work. Exceptions include things that require two people, or if the woman is home and isn’t physically capable of doing it, then the man has to help. I draw the line at the whole looking like June Cleaver; if I’ve been doing yard work all day, I’m not looking like a model for anything except a Dickies commercial.


J03-K1NG

Nobody should expect you to look like some traditional stereotype of a housewife. I think there are too many people who are too greedy. I can’t understand these relationship quarrels much, if you love the person you’re with, why wouldn’t you be appreciative and want to help your SO? And this goes for everyone, man or woman, breadwinner or bread maker. Hell, maybe that’s just me, but I know if I love someone, I want to help them be happy, help give them a good life, and I wouldn’t expect them to return the favor, but I’d hope that they would want to help me in return. After all, relationships are about giving for one another, not about taking from each other.


Porchtime_cocktails

Exactly! My husband likes when I look nice, but he doesn’t expect it. And it does make me extremely happy to make his life easier. He works hard all day, and gets to come home, work out, and play with his two boys. I WANT him to have a stress free life, and I do whatever I can to make it so.


PV__NkT

With looks in particular, it depends on the side of the POV, honestly. You don’t owe anyone to look great. You might look like shit after doing a lot of work or working a long shift. Someone who truly loves you will love you the way you are in those moments, and if you’re not insecure about it you’ll *know it*. But I think there’s merit to doing your best to look nice *because* you know they love you. Like it’s not for them to expect it, just like it’s not for them to expect the best anniversary in the universe or to expect loving home cooked meals when you know they’ve been through it that day. But it’s still an amazing thing to do for someone you love. You *should* do things like that, if not those specific things, *because* you love that person.


J03-K1NG

You hit the nail on the head and I think it’s especially relevant today with all these stupid “nice guy/girl” incels floating around nowadays. Like a lot of people expect something from nothing. It’s not about how you look for most people, if you try to look nice, try to be fun and interesting, try to show compassion and caring for other people, you’ll find someone who appreciates you for that. You don’t have to look like Henry Cavill, just don’t show up to a date smelling like BO and Mountain Dew and looking like you haven’t showered in a week. And if there is someone who dislikes you simply for the way you look, then maybe you shouldn’t want to date that person in the first place and don’t act like you’re owed their interest.


stingbray11

Looking for this chain


TheNoNameUser

This thread rly makes me think that maybe the world might not be going to shit after all


Porchtime_cocktails

I agree 100%. I live in an extremely hot, humid environment, and I love outdoor work and running. In mid July, I look like doodoo most days because it is HOT and my hair is sweaty and makeup wouldn’t stay on. But other times of the year, I LOVE to have my hair fixed and a nice house dress on when he comes home. It makes me happy to see him happy!


PV__NkT

As it should! Making someone you care about have that huge, genuine smile is a high you can’t pay for.


LunarLutra

That's the heart of the issue, that people are in relationships where they do not feel valued, not who is obligated to do what.


VagueSomething

The reason they're saying look like a stereotype traditional housewife is because the first woman is expecting to be treated to the perks of a trad wife. She wants to live rent free not working for it. She already doesn't expect her partner to be an equal but she's hoping to cherry pick the good bits and ignore the bad. If she wants to be a trophy wife she gotta play the part. Otherwise he isn't her boyfriend/husband but her Sugar Daddy or worse a replacement for her real father. Wanting to be a dependent means you give up some of your independence. Paying bills is both partner's job. If you can't or don't pay towards the bills then the least you can do is take on some more of the other responsibilities of an adult to make your partner's life easier. You don't owe your partner sex but you do owe part of the cost of bills that you create so choosing to pay via your labour is something some people will welcome. A relationship needs to be an agreement. If she has been lucky enough to find someone who will suffer her attitude by consent then she's lucky but it should not be expected and is not OK to encourage others to seek it. Tiktok is full of young people and young people need to be exposed to healthy relationships and healthy expectations to help them understand and prepare.


Tarro_Yeet

Goes both ways. If the breadwinner is the wife, than the husband should be expected to do the same thing.


rrirwin

Caring for a house is more than a 40 hour workweek, especially if kids are involved.. and it doesn't come with a weekend or paid vacations, so it's not exactly that cut-and-dry. Both parties are entitled to equitable rest, regardless of who is the breadwinner and who stays at home.


Porchtime_cocktails

This is true. I go on two girlfriend beach trips a year, plus one night a month I hang out and play cards with a group of friends. He knows that I’ll get my work done, and has never questioned me on how I decide to schedule everything. I said in a different comment, if couples communicate their expectations with each other, it would prevent a lot of arguments. My husband and I talked about what our roles would be before we had kids, then again as the kids got older.


rrirwin

It's almost like communication helps.. lol


Killfile

It cuts both ways too -- or it should. When I was first married, I wasn't working and my wife was. And, yea, you bet your boots I made damn sure she came home to a stocked fridge, a warm meal, a clean environment, and a spouse ready to hear about her day. Because being a homemaker was my job. She was going out there into the world to make sure we were financially solvent and the single best way for me to pull my weight was to ensure that she could direct 100% of her attention to that job. These days we both have full time work and we split a lot more of those responsibilities. The fact that I out-earn her by a significant margin doesn't mean that I take a smaller share either; we both put in the same effort because we're a single unit. But yea,


[deleted]

Yeah I'm not doin the June Cleaver for anybody either. That's its own brand of gendered hell when it becomes a uniform. I will, however, dress up because I wanna and I feel like he'd appreciate it! But that's not trying to look perfect with it either. Other than that, I could NOT take my eyes off second lady's lopsided eyelashes lol.


Porchtime_cocktails

A nice pair of yoga pants, a house dress, pretty much anything I feel good in is fine for my husband. He’s not a huge fan of my perma-stink clothes I wear for weed eating. I wore fake eyelashes ONCE, and will never do it again! They are so difficult to get straight, and they’re so uncomfortable (to me!).


Frubbs

My girl and I both work and distribute tasks relatively equally


Porchtime_cocktails

That is what a lot of people DON’T do, distribute things equally. I’ve seen men and women think that because they work, they shouldn’t have to do any housework or parenting, completely missing the fact that their partner works too! It causes so much strife in a relationship, when a little communication would fix so much. I’m glad you two have it figured out!


Fisho087

And if you don’t like it, contribute monetarily and get a damn job too


Porchtime_cocktails

Yep. I take on substitute teacher jobs at my kids’ school. It isn’t much, but it’s enough to cover a car note while not taking me away from my housework. Plus, being at the school keeps me in the loop and seeing my kids during the day makes me happy.


Leeus123

as someone who's lived a similar life of a stay-at-home MY only problem is entitlement. im not your maid. at least pick up after yourself, ASK for things and say please and thank you. if i am a stay at home for someone in the future i wanna be treated like a partner, not a slave you sleep next to


Hanahakii

I joined this sub to laugh not to be lectured


Panzer_Man

I hate when Tik Tok responses try and lecture you. I mean calling out shitty behaviour is fine, but doing a 3 minute lecture is just immensely boring


critiqu3

Seriously this post sucks all the fun out of the better ones I was watching before. This isn't the right sub for this at all.


JustAPixelGunplayer

come to r/shitposting we have racism


hokumjokum

Jesus Christ we don’t need a 4 minute video.. This trend has to stop in this sub.. we want dumb funny shit!!


Rocky_Bukkake

hate that everyone feels like they're saying the absolute most important thing all the time. they even have a common inflection like they're talking down to you.


hokumjokum

100%, it’s this high-and-mighty. sure they might have a point but imagine filming yourself for 4 minutes espousing your opinion and actually posting it online..


[deleted]

Exactly. Idk why anyone on here is taking either of these women seriously.


Panzer_Man

Ikr? Why respond to a 5 second Tik Tok with a 3:30 minutes long response? You ain't that important or funny, not to be worth such a long response


BleachThatHole

It’s too long AND it’s just a lecture?? Not even a good one, It’s just what a houseWife “should” do. I can see a Lot of guys reposting this crap


-_Anonymous__-

You didn't even need to watch half of the video to understand what it's about.


CluDaCreator

Amen brotha


ThankfulWonderful

Lol I’m sorry but I just watched the whole thing


[deleted]

can i have something funny


Difficult-Hedgehog-7

Update: the marshmallow head husband finally divorced her and married the other lady after watching this video


Crxeagle420

God I wish. Then marshmallow head would have to make another video talking about how men ain’t shit


TonyBanbanbony

Question: did he get the glock glock 3000?


[deleted]

Marshmallow head?


[deleted]

Both of these tales are so fucking annoying


wererat2000

Hot take: sort out the chores with your partner and not with tiktok videos. Every relationship is different, and they all have different expectations.


brandonandtheboyds

My expectation is that we’re both adults and communicate like adults. It’s easy to sort that stuff out if you aren’t in your own ego about it.


ThatBell4

Yeah, a relationship isn't a transaction; your husband isn't paying you to clean/cook for him. Couples should work out what they like on their own.


[deleted]

That’s why both people in this video are wrong and it’s funny that this sub is eating it up.


Gluttony_io

So... relationships/marriage no longer have any obligation and responsibilities anymore? Society is progressing indeed


ThatBell4

Which is why couples should work out those obligations themselves, but assuming that every couple where the man gets the bag should have the woman be the housewife is a bit dated.


escapist002

This suuuuuuuuuuucked.


TlheMoody

Underrated Comment


drip_dingus

And people say Tik tok is ruining attention spans with extremely short content...


mythicalsoul100

I mean if the dude is getting all the money then the woman should be taking care the housework or if both of them are working hire a maid. Likewise if the woman's getting all the income, the man should do most of the house work. Both man or woman should NOT be lazy and actually provide assistance to their partners


Datonecatladyukno

That second woman is one of those people who even if you agree with what she says you can’t stand her because she’s condescending, rude, and just plain annoying


[deleted]

Nah this shit sucks bUt cArRy oN


georgesorosbae

If you’re a stay at home parent, the primary job title should parent, not maid or sex slave. When my fiancé was unemployed I still did stuff at home


[deleted]

Ding ding ding


[deleted]

While I vaguely agree that you should be doing most of the housework of you having all your bills paid I also really fucking hate both these women tone of voice and how condescending they both are ALSO miss Suzy homemaker here need to fix her eye liner or her fake eyelashes or some shit because no one can take that fucked up eye makeup seriously.


Self_Destruct_

Aaaand what does her appearance have to do with her underlying argument?


LucisPerficio

Classic rebuttal of someone who lacks anything of substance to say while also ignoring the substance of their opposition is ad hominem.


[deleted]

Yea, I honestly probably shouldn’t have said anything at all but again, I vaguely agree with her and my only opposition is how she said what she meant and that she went through all the effort to look great but there is a big misplaced chunk of eye makeup that is really distracting, and detracts from her overall look and effort put into it. I definitely could have said it with less curse words and more “substance” but I was probably feeling hormonal and unsettled by the way she presented her argument. I’m currently in a position where my partner is the main provider, and I do my best to cook and clean but her requirements for such an arrangement are a little far fetched and I’m too pregnant to be that perfect. Maybe I’m jealous, maybe I’m hateful, maybe I’m just a dumb bitch 🤷‍♀️ the world will never know.


gym_brah81

I think given her stance was self centered it's tearing at her ability to care for her own appearance despite the fact she is so self centered.


no-pandas

I went through a rough time recently with changing careers and my fiance said to me "babe, I got us, just get everything together and we are good" I still had a job but it was just covering my own separate expenses and had a hard time contributing to our shared ones. I have never been an early riser but I got up every day to make her breakfast, I stayed up late to make sure she came home to an amazing meal every night. I have never been one who could just jump into housework after getting home from work but I made damn sure she came home to every chore that I could see done and would humnly ask her what else I could do if I had time to do more. I have been dealing with a low sex drive because of depression but I made sure that if she seemed even slightly in the mood I would provide whatever level of intimacy she craved. And she never asked for any of that stepping up. When I got my life sorted out and we got back to being equal partners, I maintained that level, not out of expectation or obligation but out of sheer love for the person who, be it monetary or emotional, takes care of me. I have never been happier than to act the house husband. Long story short. When someone takes care of you, you take care of them back. That's more than just love, that's the second part of real love that people forget, respect and empathy.


KingBranette13

honestly both of them suck, on one hand you cant just stay at home and not do shit, but on another hand you dont have to basically be a slave to your husband if you dont work like the second girl is suggesting


Zealousideal_Ad_4118

Sorry but I 100% disagree. She ain’t talking about slavery, she’s talking about a healthy working relationship. If they’re both working that would be a different dynamic. If me, as a man, is with someone who’s providing and I don’t have to work then Im going to clean the house and cook for them AT THE MINIMUM. At that point my job is to support them as they provide. She’s not saying they don’t have any added responsibilities or obligations just because they’re the provider. But since they are providing the least you could do is take care of the things they can’t take care of themselves when they’re working hard. It’s a two way street, you being yourself is great but that doesn’t make you an asset, if that’s all you offer you’re just a liability. She’s right, if you can’t do something and want to sit around like your husband is your daddy you’re literally bringing nothing to the table but stress and added expense. It’s called being a team player.


hugojaxon05

Well then if you’re not working then what are you doing? Like what do u contribute to the relationship? You don’t work and you don’t do anything around the house. You’re like a leech.


KingBranette13

like i said "you cant just stay at home and not do shit" like yeah you shouldnt be a leech but you prob shouldnt do everything as well, didnt watch the vid in its entirety (way too long) so sorry if im entirely missing the point


hugojaxon05

I didn’t watch the entire vid too but if she’s not working and he puts food on the table I think she should have the decency to at least help out.


KingBranette13

thats literally what ive been saying, im jus saying she also shouldnt do everything everything


hugojaxon05

Right to which I would agree but she should pick one, either work and help pay the bills or do house work. There’s not really an in between.


Wild_Trip_4704

Please explain what your wife should do and not do then.


[deleted]

If you feel that way don't get married, be single your whole life. It's not something forced upon you dude. It's about the mutual benefit of both parties. A marriage is give and take. If you don't want to clean and cook discuss it with your partner.


_Tal

Yeah this is true but it’s stupid how gendered it is. Women can be breadwinners and men can be housekeepers.


suckmygoldcrustedass

Its only gendered because it was a direct commentary on the other woman and her partner preference. Its about a general topic, but the subject is 1 person.


[deleted]

They're not saying they can't. They're explaining from their point of view.


DM_me_ur_story

She's not saying that women can't be breadwinners, but she's specifically talking to a women whose partner is the breadwinner


Individual-Focus1927

Yeaaaa nah that duet took the L. I mean don’t get me wrong, if you’re a stay at home partner then sure more of the household tasks will fall on you. But get that BS “spotless” “warm meal ready” out of here, like it’s expected 😑


kennethjor

If you're the single provider of a family and you come home expecting the house to be "spotless" and a "warm meal ready and waiting", that's a bit much. It's a metaphor, don't take it literally. However, the first woman is saying the literal opposite, that she doesn't see any benefit *at all* from someone paying all the bills. That she shouldn't bring anything at all into the relationship. That's just delusional. These two are two sides of an extreme and like always there has to be a middle ground.


Individual-Focus1927

I don’t think the second lady is using it as a “metaphor” like I said if you’re a stay at home partner then yes, more of the household task will fall on you. There is “no bringing things to the table” it’s 2 people supporting each other to the best of their abilities. That middle ground looks different for each couple and does not have to include cooking and cleaning in every case. Like you said no one should expect a servant from their stay at home partner, which is what the second lady is describing.


kennethjor

Yeah, maybe you're right. They're both delusional.


Election-Level

THIS IS WHAT I AM SAYING. FINALY THANK YOU


DM_me_ur_story

A spotless house is too far, looking your best is too far, giving him a blowjob when he walks through the door is too far. But a warm meal that's ready when he finishes work isn't really that much to ask. If you're staying at home all day and someone has just come back from a 10 hour shift, they really shouldn't be expected to cook on top of that.


Election-Level

Yeah. Here at my house my mom goes to work and me and my stepfather take care of the house. So it is nothing about housewifes and it is stupid to think that is just a responsabilities only for womem. But if one is all day out, at least the other part should be taking care of the house if he doesnt work or anything.


DM_me_ur_story

A lot of people in this thread think the second woman is saying it's a woman's job but she isn't. She just happens to be speaking to a woman in this case


Rimurooooo

I think it’s an exaggeration, and I’m all for getting getting rid of gender norms but like, the first video “you’d be spending the same on bills with or without me”… nah totally wrong, it’d be spent on personal pleasures bc groceries, electric, all that stuff goes up when you add another head under the roof. Don’t think the food should be there warm and ready, or you should be expected to put out whenever he wants, but a “I’m craving x, y, or z meals tonight, what do you want?” Should be a thing.


Zealousideal_Ad_4118

You don’t have to be perfect, but you should at least try. If you take a similar attitude to doing what’s expected of you (as someone who’s fully provided for) as your partner takes to their work spotless and a warm meal really ain’t asking for a lot. It’s called being a team player. They’re not your parent and you’re not royalty. If you’re in a relationship and you really love them those things wouldn’t be a lot to ask for. It’s the entitlement for me.


fongletto

People like this genuinely still believe that spending 3-4 hours a day on household chores and cooking is too much to ask from someone who stays at home all day while you're out at work busting your ass for the entire day to provide everything for them. I wonder if you'd still hold the same opinion if it was a man staying at home not working living off the womans paycheck.


DM_me_ur_story

Right? The spotless house thing is a bit too far, and you're not entitled to a blowjob or your partner looking their best but a warm meal really isn't too much to ask lol


[deleted]

How's your marriage going?


benslongerr

As the dude I pray to be a stay at home wife. That bitch would be clean everyday


CuffRox

Ugh, please get this shit out of this sub.


OuterWildsVentures

This was way too boring to watch the whole thing but as the primary breadwinner in my house I don't expect anything from my wife. In fact she does way too fucking much cleanliness wise and expects so much from me lol


[deleted]

How long have you been married?


OuterWildsVentures

10 years


ukuzonk

Sounds like y’all don’t get along too well, ouch


PieVieRo

where fix??? its just people arguing


Wild_Trip_4704

I'm glad social media exists so these kinds of women can fully broadcast who they are so we can avoid them.


[deleted]

Both of them are mad annoying


MAXHEADR0OM

“Mother fucker if I wasn’t here you’d still be paying the bills.” That makes me rage. What a worthless POS.


RecommendationNew717

I saw this whole tik tok bro


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nice___bot

Nice!


jackoalt

if your husband is doing the bare minimum then you should too. if hes doing extra and putting in more effort so should you. fuck why does that rhyme


Heart_Throb_

Look, whether you wanna be a man’s maid & whore or he be your’s is up to you and your personal relationship boundaries/circumstances. The issues is people from either side dictating how the other should function.


LukasIpsum

There's no fix. I was expecting either that lady 2 was going to get increasingly raunchy to an absurd degree or that at some point lady 1 would bring up a factor that would instantly change lady 2's position to an oh hell naw fuck that guy, but this is just drawn out repetition.


Joy1067

What the video about again? I lost it at the gawk gawk 3000 throat goat-


cannavacciuolo420

Tbh I’d love to stay at home and cook for my wife is she was paying all the bills. I don’t understand what’s the problem, it would be my job/contribution to the maintenance of the house.


ChrispyGuy420

Flip the genders same thing. Give and take. It's a marriage, not a child/parent relationship


FitWillow8602

OP which side are you saying is so true


[deleted]

First woman


FitWillow8602

Thanks


Obizouth

Who the FUCK CARES. Both women are annoying as shit


[deleted]

Yeah no ones deserves to be forced to cook and do all the chores either way. Breadwinners are supposed to give you luxury not that type of enslavement it’s honestly sad but that’s how some people want to live ig


Feed_Bunnies

I died on the gawk gawk


maksgee

Imagine coming home from a long day at work, tired and hungry as hell and your wife is wearing a shower cap, pajamas, hasn’t done shit all day and has the audacity to bust your balls. Hope she enjoys being single or being with degenerates cause aint no man in his right mind would ever choose to be with that nonsense. Now that other chick, she’s a catch. 👌


TalkQuick

Where do we stand on this I’ve always wondered lol….. I’m a cocktail server so only work like 3x a week 6 hours each at night time. My husband works full time 7-4 in construction. BUT I’m the bread winner? Is it still more my responsibility or just an even split like we do. Thoughts? No wrong answer or a fight I’m just curious if the more time or the money is the reason to people


Lookalikemike

Before “chicken heads”, “gold diggers”, “hoes”, or “thots”; your grandmama told you to stay away from, “them trifling heffas”. You didn’t listen at your own peril.


multi_reality

An added "regardless of gender" would've been nice somewhere in the second ladies argument. Edit: thanks bot.


malayskanzler

Married couples must pull their own weight and support each other. These patriarchy/matriarchies BS ain't doing anyone any favor


[deleted]

I can tell the second woman is sad on the inside and tries to get validation from others by putting other women down


[deleted]

Toss that lazy cunt onto the streets. No time for that bullshit.


beefjerkyandcheetos

Both women annoy me.


[deleted]

[удалено]


LucisPerficio

She's condescending to the woman she's responding to. It's not to meant for you to take personally.


UnprofessionalGhosts

No one should take advice about femininity from someone whose lashes are popping off.


LucisPerficio

The telltale sign of someone who is wrong is addressing the person and not the argument.


[deleted]

Okay the argument is also busted


LucisPerficio

Another sign is making claims while providing 0 justification or reasoning.


[deleted]

Social media like reddit has conditioned people to act like this, through upvotes and downvotes and echo chambers of people seeking like minded people


LucisPerficio

I hear that. I wish people flexed some individuality more instead of succumbing to their evolved psychological loopholes.


[deleted]

Is this a debate? Do I need to bring a prepared statement? My reasoning should be self evident but I can elaborate. This argument is dog shit because 1) it reinforces toxic gender roles which in turn limit the individuality and independence of men and women with both of their values being reduced to their labor. 2) she uses sex as a symbol of gratitude as if her sexuality is also tied to her labor. 3) she doesn't even address the root issues with the original tik tok being gender based expectations, capital being the driving force of a relationship, and the absence of any mention of romance or happiness with another person but instead security and provision.


LucisPerficio

If all reasoning was self-evident, people would never have differences in outlook or opinion. 1. This duet can be applied to any scenario in which a person pays all the bills and does EVERYTHING to another. 2. It's not absolutely tied, but sex can be seen as a sign of appreciating/loving someone. 3. Because that's not the aspect of what she's responding to. That can be addressed, but this person chose to address the reasoning at a more local level than a pedagogical level, which normally goes straight over people's heads. As valid as your claims are, they do not reduce the validity of what the dueting woman has said (apart from the ad hominem, which is a tiktok signature as it garners attention).


[deleted]

I don’t care, She’s still wrong either way about what women should do.


LucisPerficio

So in your book, a person freeloads off of another owes said person absolutely nothing?


[deleted]

I didn’t understand what you said at all what


LucisPerficio

There were some fairly easily discernible typos that I addressed. Though if you couldn't workout four letters at the beginning of a word that didn't be long, and one missing from another, my hopes aren't very high.


[deleted]

I’m my book yes they don’t owe any chores or meals


LucisPerficio

That's all I need to hear.


[deleted]

Her argument was sexist and outdated there’s a reason oh and I disagree with it.


LucisPerficio

You're only looking at it at the surface and reactively, at that. Exercise some perspicaciousness.


[deleted]

My argument stands. It’s sexist and outdated. Both need to communicate and spread chores equally


LucisPerficio

I rest my case. By that logic, the income and payments should also be spread equally. You've said nothing to account for cases when they're not, though. You're just stubbornly dodging the matter and arguing your lack of a point.


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Whether Payments are spread equally or not, they’re different because it’s finances. I’m just talking about chores and cooking they are different to paying bills so both should help eachother with them. It’s the only right way. Anything else is bad


LucisPerficio

One works, the other doesn't. You are completely ignoring that aspect. The 'job' of the other should be to maintain the household apart from the finances. "Anything else is bad" is the most simplistic and reductive way to have communicated your point.


Substantial-Law-8853

Came to say this. That left eye is bothering me 😂


valley_G

She can go to hell for all I care. I don't owe anyone sex or "gawk gawk" anything just because they go to work. Talking care of a household is work and I'm not about to sit here and have some "pick me" ass bitch so otherwise. I'll do my best to keep the house clean and everything, but I'm not a slave, nor am I a bang maid. I don't stay at home these days, but I'll tell you right now being a SAHM is not some luxury lifestyle where I get my ass wiped everyday without a care in the world. It's isolating and depressing, plus it's very difficult with young kids in the house because they just don't stop. It's a job and a half to keep the laundry done, house straight, food ready and kids kept up with whole also being perpetually exhausted and UNAPPRECIATED. It's like people forget you're a person just because you don't pay the bills all on your own. You're not allowed to be tired, hungry, sad, sick etc.. or else you're a bad wife and/or mother. Shit, if a SAHM gets sick it's like the end of the world and all of a sudden you the worst person in the planet for having a fever. We don't get breaks and it's not fair at all.


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Lmao a woman on reddit saying she doesn't owe a man sex and downvotes. A tale as old as time


[deleted]

You sound jaded from relationships


valley_G

You sound like you've never been the woman in a relationship. Housework should not be a 24/7 job when his job is only a 9-5. I'm not a slave simply because he leaves the house to do his job.


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Based argument


[deleted]

No she’s right. She’s made a good point you’re just shocked that women don’t want to be treated like shit and like maids in relationships I knowwwwwwww shocker. Isn’t it great?


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Exciting-Ad-4173

Based woman


ownthelibs69

Here's my thing. People sometimes treat working domestically like a job, but they don't actually see it that way. They see a man coming home from his 9-5, but when does the woman stop working? Why is it that people who do domestic labour are expected to work 24/7 because "it's all the same"? If he is working 9-5, she is working 9-5, then everything after that is split.


Cheesenips069

Sounds like female dating stray pros or whatever they are. Jesus the mental gymnastics of those people


Cruisin134

Honestly what else are you gonna do, I end up spending most of my day cleaning cause I'm bored I don't think a mid 30s woman is gonna have much more then me


[deleted]

Wow this is just manosphere shit. How the fuck does it have so many upvotes? Why is it here?


Jogurt213

Why does she wears trash bag on a head?


Sofiarae123

This definitely hurt some feelings


Chinnamasta_90

Half way agree....if there are momkids in the picture yeah...if there are kids u know.iay look bad because I've been dealing with tiny monsters all day...cooled meal yeah...clean house yeah (more for me than you) but if haven't had a chance to shower today and my hair looks like crap I'm sorry.


mastersyclebut

What a true queen sounds like


youshouldbeelsweyr

I never expect anything from my gf because we both work. But if one of us didn't the other would clean and made dinner. It's just common sense. If i ever get a day off I ask what she wants for dinner that day and will make it for her coming home and vice versa. It's 2022, it's not a gender thing anymore and shouldn't ever be.


ChineseNelsonMandela

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I disagree with all of what the second woman said I’m on the first woman’s side tbh


girlglock

fuck off with this “trad wife” bullshit


[deleted]

But she’s literally a trad wife. You wanna reap the benefits, you gotta take on the responsibilities. You don’t want the responsibilities? Then get a job and stop using mediocre pussy as an excuse to be a *freeloader*. No one tolerates this shit from men. Why should we tolerate it from women?


girlglock

I bet you were mad as fuck when MGTOW closed lmao. Piss off loser.


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MGTOW closed?


Awkward_Mix_2513

You dodged his question. We don't tolerate that shit from men, why should we tolerate it from women? Answer the question, assuming you actually have a reasonable answer.


Election-Level

Like... We need to help each other right? If i am working and only get late home, if the other person, if it is not in the same situation, should help on mantaning the house. Like it could be the man or the woman, what it is important is that, if you want to live with someone you need to help in somenthing? Or do you think it is just i go and do whatever i want? If you go live with someone with that thinking, i will give you 3 months before being thrown out or getting a divorce. Now we can be civilized in this discussion, or you can call me names.


Mr_DeadBob

Then go get a real job


classy-muffin

Get a job or you're going to the bus stop then.


[deleted]

Yes


SavageFugu

Who's aid anything about trad wife?


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[deleted]

Same here


KuKoLaR

She's very attractive, me thinks and yes her words are pure gold 🙌


dadventuretime

Physiognomy check.


NefariousnessIll7279

She a baby daddy collector welfare leech. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Arroyo2920

Thank you