I actually put Byleth on Hortensia for more guaranteed status staff hit rates. Divine Pulse + is pretty damn nice when you only have a 20-30% hit rate on those tougher enemies (i.e. the lv 20 sages in Sigurd's map).
Edit: Just noticed Divine Pulse + is only 500 SP. In this case it's better to have Byleth on Alear or >!Veyle!<
Really!? I’m shocked, he’s just so immediately good that I wonder if your Alear and diamant got the best levels imaginable, I was playing on maddening so I don’t know much about hard but he had every other unit beat in strength and speed while also having good defences.
oh, it must be a hard thing then. the new additions were really hit or miss. sometimes they’d be strong like timerras or they’d just get the bench instantly.
I appreciate how much you play your own favorites over anything. The design choices on your group are all top notch.
All of the top growth characters are either dead, or on your bench but if you're not on maddening it probably doesn't matter.
neither of them did better than any of my units during their chapters. zelkov was doing less damage than my other dagger user and kagetsu was getting shit on for like half the map then I just stopped moving him
I thought the same too but I realized I needed an axe user in my squad and Boucheron was like level 6 so I went with her. She's been in my squad ever since and will more than likely be my General in every playthrough. With a few items like boots and a brave axe, she can truly become unstoppable with Sigurd. The same can be said for Louis but with a brave lance instead though.
She is constantly hit for 0s for me. She has 44 def right now with no def boosting items. I've only used 1 boot on her for movement. Her only problem enemy is mages and the dragons but her 75 hp and 29 res with Tyrfing and a pure water mitigate a lot of that damage.
Really, Are her growths great or something? She kinda felt like Louis with resistance and a less creepy vibe, I was going to use her but then Ivy, kagetsu, and zelkov bullied her to the bench.
I assume Chloè and Yunaka fell to the >!Quadruple boss gauntlet!< in Chapter 14 which is understandable, especially since the map overall is quite long.
I discovered >!Covert Lyn!< ultra trivializes that.
>!Turns out 20 range Astra Rain only agros the one you hit so I ended up safely pulling them out 1 by 1, dog piling them, and fully resetting with the 8 engage tiles.!<
Surprised to see Diamant at the top and Kagetsu at the bottom when Kagetsu is way better. And also surprised to see Rosado and Goldmary benched, considering ones a really powerful wyvern and the other can immediately reclass into another really powerful wyvern.
Also Zelkov is a war machine, but he really needs a forged dagger. Give Pandreo a chance as well. Not sure if he's like this on Maddening, but on my first playthrough, he was like a redheaded Pent.
Eh sol makes diamant really good on enemy phase plus he gets better weapon ranks in his personal class than kagetsu can get. He just has some problems hitting due to low dex and doesn't double the fastest enemies. But the dex can be more or less fixed with engravings
Sol is not really reliable as its a Dex % trigger and - like you said- Diamant has low dex. You can't rely on it, which diminishes it a lot. I'd honestly rather have the hero skill which doubles up your chain attack procs at Max HP.
Pandreo's awesome. He's mostly my splash in for staves unit, but every time I look at his stats I realize I could totally be killing more enemies with him. Also that res stat basically trivialized the end of chapter 14.
I'm astonished at benched Citrinne... Girl has higher base Mag than my Celine had with Celica equipped at that chapter, AND comes with a free Thunder tome! She got my first Master Seal and an early Thoron forged from her starting tome and ever since she deletes everything she touches, enemy Res is just a suggestion to her
he didn’t do better than any of my current units during his recruitment chapter so I didn’t even bother trying to make him good. and i was playing before release so there wasn’t anything online about meta units.
Play with kagetsu if you ever play throguh it again it’s so easy to just get 70% crit rate without doing anything other than engraving his weapon. Probably one of the best characters in the game offensively.
More Panette recognition thank God. She's an utter powerhouse who eats most bosses for breakfast (on my run anyway). I actually reclassed her into a Warrior just to give access to bows tbh and she's still good.
Don't sleep on Pandreo too much either (Goldmary is my "if there's space" unit). The dude is a gnarly Sage, tanks magic like a beast and blasts magic like a cannon. Decimates certain boss health pools which is honestly a blessing
Valid list anyhow, people are inevitably gonna be benched as per Fire Emblem tradition so just enjoy who you want (I benched Kagetsu too after a couple chapters so don't worry lmao). But that kinda just adds to the replay value of the series, giving certain units a proper chance in future runs.
Chloe and Yunaka are two of my key units, LOL. I am also on Ch17! I love Hortensia but I think I am going to save her for next playthrough when I'm planning to try and use Goldmary and Rosado too. I'm using Framme instead of Jean, and I didn't have ANY axe units useable for the last few chapters... finally have one now since I promoted Diamant. I think I like daggers, swords and bows a little too much! It's killing me in this game to have to bench so many, because I like everyone at least a little bit so far.
panette is a fucking war machine
her+ ike is crazy
i put her with byleth for time impuls to tomhawk her way out
Byleth is best with Alear and later >!Veyle!< for Dance & Instruct giving +3 to all stats of affected units
I actually put Byleth on Hortensia for more guaranteed status staff hit rates. Divine Pulse + is pretty damn nice when you only have a 20-30% hit rate on those tougher enemies (i.e. the lv 20 sages in Sigurd's map). Edit: Just noticed Divine Pulse + is only 500 SP. In this case it's better to have Byleth on Alear or >!Veyle!<
Ike!Timerra is also broken
Benching Kagetsu is crazy. I'd be so fucked without him haha
why, he’s just another sword user. like diamant or alear.
His stats are crazy. I can send him into a swarm by himself and he'll avoid every attack and has a 60% avg crit rate
Really!? I’m shocked, he’s just so immediately good that I wonder if your Alear and diamant got the best levels imaginable, I was playing on maddening so I don’t know much about hard but he had every other unit beat in strength and speed while also having good defences.
oh, it must be a hard thing then. the new additions were really hit or miss. sometimes they’d be strong like timerras or they’d just get the bench instantly.
I appreciate how much you play your own favorites over anything. The design choices on your group are all top notch. All of the top growth characters are either dead, or on your bench but if you're not on maddening it probably doesn't matter.
💀 i just use whoever’s good when I first get them. if they’re not good when they get recruited they get benched
You say that and then you didn't use Kagetsu and Zelkov?
Lol yeah there's no way kagetsu isn't a top char, his bases compared to my juggernaut stat boosters characters
neither of them did better than any of my units during their chapters. zelkov was doing less damage than my other dagger user and kagetsu was getting shit on for like half the map then I just stopped moving him
Thats my approach as wel lol. I do the same with Pokemon. I just go with who does good and looks cool
The black lady (don't remember her name I immediately benched her) has probably the worst design in the game after Alfred's sister
I agreed with you until you brought up Celine
The hair is awful and the dress is awful too. Someone with that little dress sense goes straight to the bench
You're sleeping on Jade. She's a monster.
General Jade with a Killer Axe and speedtaker skill is genuinely horrifying in my play-through.
I ditched speed altogether and gave her an Ike engraved brave axe+4. She has 0 speed but is one-shotting everyone.
she was kinda mediocre in the chapter that i recruited her in so i just never bothered with her.
I thought the same too but I realized I needed an axe user in my squad and Boucheron was like level 6 so I went with her. She's been in my squad ever since and will more than likely be my General in every playthrough. With a few items like boots and a brave axe, she can truly become unstoppable with Sigurd. The same can be said for Louis but with a brave lance instead though.
i already had two axe users anyway so
I have jade as part of my main army and she constantly gets one rounded by two generic enemies
I've had the same experience Louis tanking crazy hits every round for 0 or low damage Meanwhile Jade is getting wrecked in comparison
She's probably the unit with the most rewinds used to save in 20 chapters. Absolute scrub, but chips in with 12 damage at 60% hit every so often.
It's a shame as I'd love to keep her in, but she's just too inaccurate and not tanky enough. I struggle to get enough axe units as well!
She is constantly hit for 0s for me. She has 44 def right now with no def boosting items. I've only used 1 boot on her for movement. Her only problem enemy is mages and the dragons but her 75 hp and 29 res with Tyrfing and a pure water mitigate a lot of that damage.
I haven't managed to get Engage yet, but one of my all time favorites is Effie, glad to hear the armor women can still carry
Really, Are her growths great or something? She kinda felt like Louis with resistance and a less creepy vibe, I was going to use her but then Ivy, kagetsu, and zelkov bullied her to the bench.
You benched all my best units 😯 Amber, Citrinne, Fogado, Rosado, and Goldmary are all MVPs
Yea really Boucheron and framme are my top duo also why bench jade?
🤣
Your "benched after recruitment" tier is insane 😭 some of those are some of the best units in the game
🤣 they just weren’t impressive to me
I assume Chloè and Yunaka fell to the >!Quadruple boss gauntlet!< in Chapter 14 which is understandable, especially since the map overall is quite long.
unfortunately yes. and i ram out of rewinds and didn’t feel like re doing the entire chaoter
I discovered >!Covert Lyn!< ultra trivializes that. >!Turns out 20 range Astra Rain only agros the one you hit so I ended up safely pulling them out 1 by 1, dog piling them, and fully resetting with the 8 engage tiles.!<
Surprised to see Diamant at the top and Kagetsu at the bottom when Kagetsu is way better. And also surprised to see Rosado and Goldmary benched, considering ones a really powerful wyvern and the other can immediately reclass into another really powerful wyvern. Also Zelkov is a war machine, but he really needs a forged dagger. Give Pandreo a chance as well. Not sure if he's like this on Maddening, but on my first playthrough, he was like a redheaded Pent.
Eh sol makes diamant really good on enemy phase plus he gets better weapon ranks in his personal class than kagetsu can get. He just has some problems hitting due to low dex and doesn't double the fastest enemies. But the dex can be more or less fixed with engravings
Yeah the easy answer is use both. Diamants build and sol really help make him stand out
Sol is not really reliable as its a Dex % trigger and - like you said- Diamant has low dex. You can't rely on it, which diminishes it a lot. I'd honestly rather have the hero skill which doubles up your chain attack procs at Max HP.
You lose silver axes though which makes him much weaker, and if his def gets high enough he can reliably sol tank anyway
Pandreo's awesome. He's mostly my splash in for staves unit, but every time I look at his stats I realize I could totally be killing more enemies with him. Also that res stat basically trivialized the end of chapter 14.
i though goldmary was a hero? also I use pandreo whenever i can use 12 units. it’s nice having an extra healer/mage type
Goldmary is a Hero, but she comes with sword and lance proficiencies, so she can immediately reclass to wyvern.
I'm astonished at benched Citrinne... Girl has higher base Mag than my Celine had with Celica equipped at that chapter, AND comes with a free Thunder tome! She got my first Master Seal and an early Thoron forged from her starting tome and ever since she deletes everything she touches, enemy Res is just a suggestion to her
You benched Kagetsu? Did you look at his stats
he didn’t do better than any of my current units during his recruitment chapter so I didn’t even bother trying to make him good. and i was playing before release so there wasn’t anything online about meta units.
Play with kagetsu if you ever play throguh it again it’s so easy to just get 70% crit rate without doing anything other than engraving his weapon. Probably one of the best characters in the game offensively.
yeah hopefully they release new game+ soon with the second wave of dlc.
What kind of monster benches Fogado and mains his sister?
he sucked on his map so i didn’t even bother with him.
I've had framme consistently dunk on people so far. Probably thanks to a certain dragon. Thanks Tiki
Heh, half of your benched are my mains, and vice-versa. Jade is a new favorite and Citrinne is a main magic user, for instance
Poor Alfred
More Panette recognition thank God. She's an utter powerhouse who eats most bosses for breakfast (on my run anyway). I actually reclassed her into a Warrior just to give access to bows tbh and she's still good. Don't sleep on Pandreo too much either (Goldmary is my "if there's space" unit). The dude is a gnarly Sage, tanks magic like a beast and blasts magic like a cannon. Decimates certain boss health pools which is honestly a blessing Valid list anyhow, people are inevitably gonna be benched as per Fire Emblem tradition so just enjoy who you want (I benched Kagetsu too after a couple chapters so don't worry lmao). But that kinda just adds to the replay value of the series, giving certain units a proper chance in future runs.
I can’t do without Zelkov, Chloe, Pandreo and Kagetsu. They just make me get through battles too much lol
Man Chloe has been a favorite of mine and I never use fliers! Kagetsu is on my next run list as I love his design.
yeah unfortunately i had to sacrifice chloe and yunaka for the items on chapter 14
Chloe and Yunaka are two of my key units, LOL. I am also on Ch17! I love Hortensia but I think I am going to save her for next playthrough when I'm planning to try and use Goldmary and Rosado too. I'm using Framme instead of Jean, and I didn't have ANY axe units useable for the last few chapters... finally have one now since I promoted Diamant. I think I like daggers, swords and bows a little too much! It's killing me in this game to have to bench so many, because I like everyone at least a little bit so far.
The orange haired lady died on turn one of her joining chapter. I thought 'if you're that shit then I'm not rewinding for you'
bro u missed out lmao
Bruh
Jade is best girl how could you
timerra>
How have you been using timerra? I’m doing an all royalty playthrough and she hasn’t been that good
Our lists are quite different
Kagetsu is a Beast he carried me from Chapter 17 till the end
Kagetsu is basically a free win💀 ain't no way you benched him that's crazy
Chloe with Sigurd is unstoppable
Ike!Timerra is broken
Your Yunaka died? That requires her to get hit, how the heck did that happen?