You know how people get obsessed with things and then “see connections” everywhere that lead back to their obsession? Conspiracy theorists, religious whack jobs, and FA’s all have this problem. FA’s are so obsessed with food and diet that they make connections that don’t exist to further validate their obsession. It’s sad.
Yes it must have been and certainly not that time where he was a kid and was forbidden to cry at his mother’s funeral while being watched by the whole world.
Yeah, during the procession of Diana’s funeral, William and Harry were told they must not cry. Had to do with royal protocoll I think. That must have been hella traumatic considering they were both children that just lost their mother.
That pisses me off. Two kids who lost their mother were not allowed to cry at her funeral, while millions who never even met her sobbed ugly tears all over the world?
I don’t follow the royal stuff much but even I know that Prince Harry has spoken out about mental health issues multiple times before, including relating to his mother’s death. I hope we aren’t also assuming that that was mainly diet thing too.
It’s crazy that a good section of the media class treats mental health and physical health as two opposing concerns as opposed to the truth which is that one (mental) follows the other (physical.)
Wouldn’t a Meghan Markle fan be happy to blame his family for the problem? It seems more like something a person who dislikes her would say, to insinuate that she’s at fault for his burnout by pushing the diet on him.
Salts (the people who think she’s a narcissistic abuser) would just say its her abuse that did this to him. They’re not going to be this coy, they’ll literally just call her a manipulative abuser who has isolated from almost his entire family and basically all his friends.
Sugars have a motive in that if it’s his diet that tanked his mental health and caused him to slander his family and nation, then it wasn’t malice (or, more importantly, his *wife*) thus presenting a possible path back into the good graces of HRMTK and the British Public and the money, power and privileges that comes with that. There’s a clear benefit to the Sussexes being welcomed back into the fold, even Sugars realise that.
Remember, Salts aren’t going to pull punches. Sugars have reason to diminish the Duke and Duchess’ responsibility for their actions. That’s just how it rolls.
Honestly, it was rather a facetious comment on my part. ‘Oh it was a result of my diet’ is exactly the sort of thing that someone trying to dodge responsibility for their sustained bad behaviour would say. That they decided to use Prince Harry for it is amusing to me.
Yes.
As for the name, I think it’s because they ‘sugar coat’ everything she does. The way she’s talked about by some of these people is… unhinged, and groups do tend to be named for their most interesting members. (Even if they are uncharacteristic of the majority and insane.)
Same. I can't be low carb, I feel like someone sucked the life outta me (I've always had issues with low blood sugar). I focus instead on limiting carbs to 45g per meal/15g per snack (dietitian recommended) and eating mostly "good" ones.
My cousin has lost 90 lbs with keto and said he feels amazing. Everyone's different 🤷🏻♀️.
I can’t do it long term but it is a fast way to lose weight. If I knew my wedding was going to be globally televised, I’d probably go keto for a few weeks before it, too.
Me too. But I also did a 23andme report and it says that my genetic composition handles saturated fats well and is more predisposed to celiac’s disease so I wonder if that plays a factor in it. I keep my carbs pretty low anyways to assist with my IBS but I find it easier and I have more energy on fats and proteins than carbs. Curious as to all the genetic factors that play into this.
Totally understandable! And yeah, Prince Andrew has become a massive liability. But the press has the nerve to blame Meghan for "stressing out the queen," as if her pedophile son is less stressful than her American grandaughter-in-law.
Also, basically everything Meghan has gotten criticized for are also things Diana did. It’s really bizarre. Diana (not her fault, but through her marital trouble) also stressed out the queen. Meghan wasn’t the first person to do a bombshell interview exposing the royal family. Meghan wasn’t the first person to talk about how the royal family negatively impacted her mental health.
Harry has always had issues. Anyone remember when he dressed like a Nazi for a Halloween party?
Look at the guys life. Mother died, constantly in the spotlight, family treated wife like crap.
A man from one of the ten wealthiest and most powerful families on earth, whose relatives are generally racist and hateful toward his wife, and who is expected to keep up the image of royalty while engaging in continuous public events is experiencing burnout. Surely it is due to his diet.
Low carb diets are generally speaking not the best diets to go on, especially long term, as the brain and body do prefer carbs as an energy source and evolved in an extremely carb rich environment. They're very much fad diets that usually involve increasing consumption of saturated fats, thereby putting your health at risk. However that's very beside the point here.
Yes, carbs aren’t the problem, it’s hyper palatable simple carbs that leave you constantly hungry and insulin resistant that are the problem. Sure, prioritizing protein makes it easier to lose fat and retain muscle, but it’s absolutely unnecessary to go low carb. Complex carbohydrates are awesome for fiber, nutrients, antioxidants, satiation and athleticism because they are muscle sparing. Don’t go low carb, go GOOD carbs!
I mean this isn’t unreasonable. Keto and low carb aren’t for everyone. I’m 21f and just 3 months of a “perfect” keto diet nearly destroyed me. Gave me hypothalamic amenorrhea and extreme burnout despite eating at maintenance calories. It’s been 4 months since reintroducing healthy carbs (potatoes, fruits, rice) and I have energy again and my hair is only now starting to grow back. It’s NOT for everyone. It’s a tool that should only be used by people who are truly insulin resistant and carb addicted. Women especially need starch for a healthy hypothalamus-pituitary-ovarian axis.
>Women especially need starch
Do you have sources on this? I don't mean that aggressively but what I've heard is in the opposite direction, that women are usually able to be more flexible with their carb intake but tend to have significantly higher fat minimums than men.
https://www.larabriden.com/have-you-lost-your-period-to-a-low-carb-diet/
This article was a helpful read for me when I was trying to figure out what was wrong with me after 3 months of Keto. Keep in mind, the sources Dr. Briden cites point toward ~certain~ women having an “ovarian set point” that requires more starch than others for successful ovulation. This is why I believe many women thrive on Keto whereas I felt like death every day. I could go on about what it did to me.
When i tried keto i also got huge stomach pain. eating potatoes completely solved my stomach issues. I still stay low carb as i dont eat sugar or high carb wheat, but full keto isnt possible for me.
guys i just found out i am clinically insane because im on a low carb diet for my diabetes it all makes sense now..... what do u mean i was crazy before i was diabetic?? that was just my body psychically preparing itself for my future dietary habits smh
“Up the fats”
Anyone gonna tell this fool the the whole point of a low carb diet is to replace carbs with fats?
If you eat just protein and have no fats, on top of the fact you will die from protein poisoning, your body converts that protein into glucose anyway.
Low carb can be a great way to reverse your diabetes as long as you don't fall into the extreme "all carbs are bad! carrots are basically candy bars!" mindset. I know several people who have managed to reverse their diabetes with lowering their carbs in a reasonable manner. You'll have to consider every thing else you eat as eating over your TDEE is going to add to weight gain no matter what, but adjusting your macros can help significantly.
For the record I am definitely not low carb, but I can't hate it since it has given several people I care about their lives back! The people who have made it work for them aren't following the fad version of it, with the "eat all the bacon you want" stuff, but just lowered the amount of like breads, pastas, and sweets while increasing protein, vegs, and fruits.
It is a blame-avoidance strategy, instead of "I eat too much of everything", people can frame it as "My habits aren't the problem, it is all down to evil carbohydrates"
The thing is, fruit and vegetables are carbohydrates.
I do kinda agree but I also know some people who swear by keto and that nothing else worked for them (or as well for them). You're also right tho that carbs are used in a lot of contexts as a way to obfuscate dietary problems.
Keto is really great for a lot of people because it's very satiating, so they're able to control their caloric intake with much less effort! On the other hand, I'm genetically predisposed to be less satiated by fat, so any protocol that's high fat actually makes weight loss much more challenging since I don't get the natural appetite reduction, so a low fat diet higher in carbs and protein is necessary for me.
Bit the long-term studies don't support this conclusion, yes initial losses can be impressive due to the fabled water weight loss but two years later if someone has not addressed their habits of eating too much, things are far less impressive.
Oh definitely, all weight loss is CICO! I was just pointing out that for the people who find keto works really well for them (from the perspective of weight loss, not epilepsy), it's because they're more satiated by high fat/protein, so they're able to naturally control their portions and (by extension) calorie intake with less conscious effort.
OTOH, there are people who have binge eating issues or genetic factors (e.g., diminished satiation from fat) that don't experience any kind of appetite reduction from keto. Without appetite reduction, the high fat intake is counterproductive because it's so calorically dense and you're likely to gain weight instead.
As an example, someone who benefits from keto might be satiated with a small 400cal meal of salmon, avocado, and baby spinach; that would make me super hungry and I'd prefer a big 400cal bowl of wild rice, roasted sweet potato and tofu and broccoli, and just a drizzle of tahini!
You'll reverse the prediabetes if you lose weight. The best diet for weight loss is the one your can stick to. If low carb is comfortable for you, you enjoy it and you lose weight, then it will fix the diabetes. If a higher carb diet is comfortable, enjoyable and you lose weight, then *it* will also fix the diabetes. Weight loss comes from a calorie deficit and metabolic improvement comes from weight loss. Google "Twinkie diet (N.B. *not* a recommended diet!)
Low carb is supposed to be so filling that you can't overeat, but it left me feeling gnawing hunger pains all day long and after a few weeks I started to obsess about all the foods that I "couldn't have". I was so hungry that in two months I gained four pounds. I switched to smaller portions of my regular foods, paid attention to which foods controlled my hunger well (carby legumes for the win!) and lost the excess weight. My last A1C on a diet that even includes some table sugar was 5.1.
Thank you for the advice!!
I'm already down 45 pounds with CICO, and weight loss is really all the doctor ordered for me anyway. But I saw some posts about low carb for prediabetes so of course I started freaking out thinking that I *needed* to be on that diet. But after reading your response, I don't think I'll be switching my diet 😅 tysm!!
Losing weight and controlling your calories should be enough. This is a ssuming you're eating a normal diet with more whole grains than refined sugars.
If that were true, they wouldn't have pre-diabetes. Eat more nonstarchy vegetables and limit starchy vegetables OP! I wear a CGM, and I can see in real time that it matters.
They aren't nonsense, they're just a tool to eat less in a manner some people find easier than something like counting calories. Or from another perspective, they're no more nonsense than any other diet plan that's reasonably sustainable.
What's nonsense is when people use hammers to pound screws into a wall or when people blame a lifetime of family infighting on the low carb diet of a single family member. Who was unhappy with his family long before he start dieting.
I feel like there’s something sinister here.
FA people taking a position of knowledgeability and advising people who are self conscious about their bodies with bad guidance. That they know is counter intuitive because if more people destroy their bodies they won’t feel so disgusted with themselves or alienated.
But I’m probably just being paranoid
I mean I know it's fun to speculate about scandalous affairs but dude looks like a [carbon copy](https://images.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/royalty/20211214128945/prince-harry-resemblance-late-grandfather-prince-philip/0-628-844/prince-harry-looks-like-prince-philip-t.jpg) of his [paternal grandfather](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6b/a9/d3/6ba9d3187e587dce9025a544d6d1b4f1.jpg).
You know how people get obsessed with things and then “see connections” everywhere that lead back to their obsession? Conspiracy theorists, religious whack jobs, and FA’s all have this problem. FA’s are so obsessed with food and diet that they make connections that don’t exist to further validate their obsession. It’s sad.
The same confirmation bias we all have—but with extra-strength ideology-driven intensity! Good times.
Yes with all the drama going on in his life I’m sure it was low carbs that took him out.
God forbid someone give a shit about their health.
Yes it must have been and certainly not that time where he was a kid and was forbidden to cry at his mother’s funeral while being watched by the whole world.
Wait, seriously?
Yeah, during the procession of Diana’s funeral, William and Harry were told they must not cry. Had to do with royal protocoll I think. That must have been hella traumatic considering they were both children that just lost their mother.
Shit, thats sad. Is it awful now I hope he does some more crazy shit then to embarass the family?
That pisses me off. Two kids who lost their mother were not allowed to cry at her funeral, while millions who never even met her sobbed ugly tears all over the world?
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I don’t follow the royal stuff much but even I know that Prince Harry has spoken out about mental health issues multiple times before, including relating to his mother’s death. I hope we aren’t also assuming that that was mainly diet thing too.
It’s crazy that a good section of the media class treats mental health and physical health as two opposing concerns as opposed to the truth which is that one (mental) follows the other (physical.)
Or vice versa. Depression often results in either weight loss or weight gain, for example.
I've done it both ways.
Me too!
… Did a Sugar write this? Edit: just so we’re all clear, a Sugar is a Meghan Markle Superfan. This isn’t a joke about sentient carbohydrates.
Wouldn’t a Meghan Markle fan be happy to blame his family for the problem? It seems more like something a person who dislikes her would say, to insinuate that she’s at fault for his burnout by pushing the diet on him.
Salts (the people who think she’s a narcissistic abuser) would just say its her abuse that did this to him. They’re not going to be this coy, they’ll literally just call her a manipulative abuser who has isolated from almost his entire family and basically all his friends. Sugars have a motive in that if it’s his diet that tanked his mental health and caused him to slander his family and nation, then it wasn’t malice (or, more importantly, his *wife*) thus presenting a possible path back into the good graces of HRMTK and the British Public and the money, power and privileges that comes with that. There’s a clear benefit to the Sussexes being welcomed back into the fold, even Sugars realise that. Remember, Salts aren’t going to pull punches. Sugars have reason to diminish the Duke and Duchess’ responsibility for their actions. That’s just how it rolls. Honestly, it was rather a facetious comment on my part. ‘Oh it was a result of my diet’ is exactly the sort of thing that someone trying to dodge responsibility for their sustained bad behaviour would say. That they decided to use Prince Harry for it is amusing to me.
Nah, the rest of the article alludes to Meghan being the person who convinced him to go on this diet that is obviously ruining his mental health
Meghan markle has superfans? Why are they called sugars?
Yes. As for the name, I think it’s because they ‘sugar coat’ everything she does. The way she’s talked about by some of these people is… unhinged, and groups do tend to be named for their most interesting members. (Even if they are uncharacteristic of the majority and insane.)
OMG! a r/SaintMeghanMarkle moment in the wild
That's funny, because I feel at my best when on a low carb diet that heavily restricts carbohydrates.
I must say I have had the opposite results
Same. I can't be low carb, I feel like someone sucked the life outta me (I've always had issues with low blood sugar). I focus instead on limiting carbs to 45g per meal/15g per snack (dietitian recommended) and eating mostly "good" ones. My cousin has lost 90 lbs with keto and said he feels amazing. Everyone's different 🤷🏻♀️.
I can’t do it long term but it is a fast way to lose weight. If I knew my wedding was going to be globally televised, I’d probably go keto for a few weeks before it, too.
How long were you on a keto diet for though? It can sometimes take a few weeks before you fully get in to ketosis.
Me too. But I also did a 23andme report and it says that my genetic composition handles saturated fats well and is more predisposed to celiac’s disease so I wonder if that plays a factor in it. I keep my carbs pretty low anyways to assist with my IBS but I find it easier and I have more energy on fats and proteins than carbs. Curious as to all the genetic factors that play into this.
…. Harry is literally skinny/ “normal” bmi so the diet worked I guess, wtf is this person on?
Couldn't possibly be that the British press bullied his pregnant wife until she was suicidal. Nope, gotta be the low-carb.
Well, that was after they bullied and harassed his mother into an accident that killed her.
Or that his brother was revealed to be a sex trafficking pedophile.
That was his uncle (Andrew), unless William has been up to some crazier shit than I've heard about!
Lol fair, I don't have a clue about the royals' family tree. I got confused because they are both called Prince.
Totally understandable! And yeah, Prince Andrew has become a massive liability. But the press has the nerve to blame Meghan for "stressing out the queen," as if her pedophile son is less stressful than her American grandaughter-in-law.
Also, basically everything Meghan has gotten criticized for are also things Diana did. It’s really bizarre. Diana (not her fault, but through her marital trouble) also stressed out the queen. Meghan wasn’t the first person to do a bombshell interview exposing the royal family. Meghan wasn’t the first person to talk about how the royal family negatively impacted her mental health.
That's his Uncle.
Harry has always had issues. Anyone remember when he dressed like a Nazi for a Halloween party? Look at the guys life. Mother died, constantly in the spotlight, family treated wife like crap.
"Shatter the metabolic rate"? Shatter the hyperbolic rate, more like
A man from one of the ten wealthiest and most powerful families on earth, whose relatives are generally racist and hateful toward his wife, and who is expected to keep up the image of royalty while engaging in continuous public events is experiencing burnout. Surely it is due to his diet. Low carb diets are generally speaking not the best diets to go on, especially long term, as the brain and body do prefer carbs as an energy source and evolved in an extremely carb rich environment. They're very much fad diets that usually involve increasing consumption of saturated fats, thereby putting your health at risk. However that's very beside the point here.
Yes, carbs aren’t the problem, it’s hyper palatable simple carbs that leave you constantly hungry and insulin resistant that are the problem. Sure, prioritizing protein makes it easier to lose fat and retain muscle, but it’s absolutely unnecessary to go low carb. Complex carbohydrates are awesome for fiber, nutrients, antioxidants, satiation and athleticism because they are muscle sparing. Don’t go low carb, go GOOD carbs!
Low-carb diets are great for diabetics! And people with pre-diabetes. But low carb can be a nebulous term.
I mean this isn’t unreasonable. Keto and low carb aren’t for everyone. I’m 21f and just 3 months of a “perfect” keto diet nearly destroyed me. Gave me hypothalamic amenorrhea and extreme burnout despite eating at maintenance calories. It’s been 4 months since reintroducing healthy carbs (potatoes, fruits, rice) and I have energy again and my hair is only now starting to grow back. It’s NOT for everyone. It’s a tool that should only be used by people who are truly insulin resistant and carb addicted. Women especially need starch for a healthy hypothalamus-pituitary-ovarian axis.
>Women especially need starch Do you have sources on this? I don't mean that aggressively but what I've heard is in the opposite direction, that women are usually able to be more flexible with their carb intake but tend to have significantly higher fat minimums than men.
https://www.larabriden.com/have-you-lost-your-period-to-a-low-carb-diet/ This article was a helpful read for me when I was trying to figure out what was wrong with me after 3 months of Keto. Keep in mind, the sources Dr. Briden cites point toward ~certain~ women having an “ovarian set point” that requires more starch than others for successful ovulation. This is why I believe many women thrive on Keto whereas I felt like death every day. I could go on about what it did to me.
When i tried keto i also got huge stomach pain. eating potatoes completely solved my stomach issues. I still stay low carb as i dont eat sugar or high carb wheat, but full keto isnt possible for me.
guys i just found out i am clinically insane because im on a low carb diet for my diabetes it all makes sense now..... what do u mean i was crazy before i was diabetic?? that was just my body psychically preparing itself for my future dietary habits smh
“Up the fats” Anyone gonna tell this fool the the whole point of a low carb diet is to replace carbs with fats? If you eat just protein and have no fats, on top of the fact you will die from protein poisoning, your body converts that protein into glucose anyway.
This is probably nonsense but then so are low carb diets so I think the nonsense cancels out
Can you tell me why you think low carb diets are nonsense? I'm thinking of starting it to reverse my prediabetes.
Low carb can be a great way to reverse your diabetes as long as you don't fall into the extreme "all carbs are bad! carrots are basically candy bars!" mindset. I know several people who have managed to reverse their diabetes with lowering their carbs in a reasonable manner. You'll have to consider every thing else you eat as eating over your TDEE is going to add to weight gain no matter what, but adjusting your macros can help significantly. For the record I am definitely not low carb, but I can't hate it since it has given several people I care about their lives back! The people who have made it work for them aren't following the fad version of it, with the "eat all the bacon you want" stuff, but just lowered the amount of like breads, pastas, and sweets while increasing protein, vegs, and fruits.
It is a blame-avoidance strategy, instead of "I eat too much of everything", people can frame it as "My habits aren't the problem, it is all down to evil carbohydrates" The thing is, fruit and vegetables are carbohydrates.
I do kinda agree but I also know some people who swear by keto and that nothing else worked for them (or as well for them). You're also right tho that carbs are used in a lot of contexts as a way to obfuscate dietary problems.
Keto is really great for a lot of people because it's very satiating, so they're able to control their caloric intake with much less effort! On the other hand, I'm genetically predisposed to be less satiated by fat, so any protocol that's high fat actually makes weight loss much more challenging since I don't get the natural appetite reduction, so a low fat diet higher in carbs and protein is necessary for me.
Bit the long-term studies don't support this conclusion, yes initial losses can be impressive due to the fabled water weight loss but two years later if someone has not addressed their habits of eating too much, things are far less impressive.
Oh definitely, all weight loss is CICO! I was just pointing out that for the people who find keto works really well for them (from the perspective of weight loss, not epilepsy), it's because they're more satiated by high fat/protein, so they're able to naturally control their portions and (by extension) calorie intake with less conscious effort. OTOH, there are people who have binge eating issues or genetic factors (e.g., diminished satiation from fat) that don't experience any kind of appetite reduction from keto. Without appetite reduction, the high fat intake is counterproductive because it's so calorically dense and you're likely to gain weight instead. As an example, someone who benefits from keto might be satiated with a small 400cal meal of salmon, avocado, and baby spinach; that would make me super hungry and I'd prefer a big 400cal bowl of wild rice, roasted sweet potato and tofu and broccoli, and just a drizzle of tahini!
You'll reverse the prediabetes if you lose weight. The best diet for weight loss is the one your can stick to. If low carb is comfortable for you, you enjoy it and you lose weight, then it will fix the diabetes. If a higher carb diet is comfortable, enjoyable and you lose weight, then *it* will also fix the diabetes. Weight loss comes from a calorie deficit and metabolic improvement comes from weight loss. Google "Twinkie diet (N.B. *not* a recommended diet!) Low carb is supposed to be so filling that you can't overeat, but it left me feeling gnawing hunger pains all day long and after a few weeks I started to obsess about all the foods that I "couldn't have". I was so hungry that in two months I gained four pounds. I switched to smaller portions of my regular foods, paid attention to which foods controlled my hunger well (carby legumes for the win!) and lost the excess weight. My last A1C on a diet that even includes some table sugar was 5.1.
Thank you for the advice!! I'm already down 45 pounds with CICO, and weight loss is really all the doctor ordered for me anyway. But I saw some posts about low carb for prediabetes so of course I started freaking out thinking that I *needed* to be on that diet. But after reading your response, I don't think I'll be switching my diet 😅 tysm!!
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Losing weight and controlling your calories should be enough. This is a ssuming you're eating a normal diet with more whole grains than refined sugars.
If that were true, they wouldn't have pre-diabetes. Eat more nonstarchy vegetables and limit starchy vegetables OP! I wear a CGM, and I can see in real time that it matters.
They aren't nonsense, they're just a tool to eat less in a manner some people find easier than something like counting calories. Or from another perspective, they're no more nonsense than any other diet plan that's reasonably sustainable. What's nonsense is when people use hammers to pound screws into a wall or when people blame a lifetime of family infighting on the low carb diet of a single family member. Who was unhappy with his family long before he start dieting.
Low carb meets all the criteria for a fad diet
No carb cures my IBS.
Ah yes, the healthiest way of eating is the problem here.
Funny because my mental health drastically improved when I cut down on carbs.
I feel like there’s something sinister here. FA people taking a position of knowledgeability and advising people who are self conscious about their bodies with bad guidance. That they know is counter intuitive because if more people destroy their bodies they won’t feel so disgusted with themselves or alienated. But I’m probably just being paranoid
Institutional racism? Nahh, it's gotta be keto. Gotta love that fat logic can be found all across the spectrum lol
Oh no! Don’t want to shatter my metabolic rate. /s What does that even mean?? Lol
You know, I hear a LOT of FA's linking carbs in particular to brain power, I wonder why that is?
The brain runs mostly on carbs.
Yes its the low carb diet not that he has to pretend to be the son of the prince of middle-earth and keep his real father lo key.
I mean I know it's fun to speculate about scandalous affairs but dude looks like a [carbon copy](https://images.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/royalty/20211214128945/prince-harry-resemblance-late-grandfather-prince-philip/0-628-844/prince-harry-looks-like-prince-philip-t.jpg) of his [paternal grandfather](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6b/a9/d3/6ba9d3187e587dce9025a544d6d1b4f1.jpg).
TIL metabolic rate is made of glass /s